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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:21 PM
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Court: Terror Suspects Must Get Lawyers

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A federal appeals court ruled Thursday for the first time that prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba should have access to lawyers and the American court system.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' 2-1 decision was a rebuke to the Bush Administration.

The administration maintains that because the 660 men held there were picked up overseas on suspicion of terrorism and are being held on foreign land, they may be detained indefinitely without charges or trial.

The Supreme Court last month agreed to decide whether the detainees, picked up in Afghanistan and Pakistan, should have access to the courts. The justices agreed to hear that case after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled that the prisoners had no rights to the American legal system.

for rest of article:

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20031218/D7VH0F104.html

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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:26 PM
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1. Great news --
Even if its from the 9th's member panel and subject to full review and appeal up to SCOTUS.

This is exactly why Bush* has been trying to pack the courts; hopefully his imperial aspirations vis a vis his abuse of the executive branch will meet its end through our Constitutional system of checks and balances before he completely succeeds.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:31 PM
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2. This and the Padilla decision and the announcement from Kean. . .
What a great day :)
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:35 PM
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3. Between us and a Totalitarian State
Stands the 9th Circuit Court.

They repeatedly step up for Constitutional rights, when the BFEE tries to run roughshod.

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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:40 PM
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4. And the 9th...
is the court the Bushies are just itchin' to bust up into two different curcuits.

We need them now more than ever.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:40 PM
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5. A typical Freeper on another board I frequent responds thusly:
"I doubt that this will hold up. I believe this court has over stepped their jurisdictional boundaries, as usual.
In the past year, this circus court has had 40 of the 56 judgments arising from the federal appellate courts (or 71%), two of the three judgments coming from the federal district courts (or 67%), and 17 of the 21 judgments issued by state courts (or 81%) all overturned. The 9th Circuit’s rulings accounted for more reversals this past term than all the state courts across the entire country combined.
They are nothing but a bunch of looney liberals that could care less about the law and even less about National Security."

Yup, he's another wingnut whackjob.

http://www.fearbush.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4482&st=0&#entry55762
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:43 PM
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6. JUDICIAL ACTIVISM!! JUDICIAL ACTIVISM!!!
I just wanted to get that out of the way now. You know we'll hear it once or thirty times before this thing finishes playing itself out.

Definition of the term "Judicial Activism": Any ruling that goes against the wishes of the Bush Regime.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:55 PM
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8. It's bull, their rate of overturn is really no higher.they hear more cases
Edited on Thu Dec-18-03 03:56 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
I have a link that I will supply later to back this up. :D
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 04:03 PM
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10. LOL . . . the same loons further comments:
"No, I am referring to the laws that apply to enemy combatants.
I have to laugh again. We have several threads going on trying to accuse Bush of failing to prevent 9/11 but whenever we have a topic like the Patriot Act or detaining enemy combatants, Bush is evil for doing whatever he can to prevent another 9/11.
When will liberals learn that can't have it both ways?"

I guess in his deranged little mind, giving people due process that are already in custody somehow means that they'll be out blowing shit up.

What an imbecile.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 04:05 PM
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12. Should anyone care to register at the other board . . .
and tell this yahoo what's what, we could use some new blood over there :).

www.fearbush.com
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:47 PM
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7. Indeed
The constitution hangs by a thread and that thread is called the 9th circuit...
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 04:04 PM
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11. Marketing Idea?
I wonder if we could get 9th Circuit Court T-shirts made up.

I'd buy one!
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:57 PM
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9. Ashcroft must be livid
The American Way.....detained indefinitely!
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