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Doondoo Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 05:53 PM
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McCain: Rumsfeld was one of worst defense secretaries in history
Arizona Sen. John McCain said Monday the war in Iraq has been mismanaged for years and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld will be remembered as "one of the worst" to ever hold the job.

"We are paying a very heavy price for the mismanagement - that's the kindest word I can give you - of Donald Rumsfeld of this war," McCain told an overflow crowd of more than 800 at a retirement community near Hilton Head Island. "The price is very, very heavy and I regret it enormously."

The Arizona Republican said Rumsfeld never put enough troops on the ground to succeed in Iraq.

"I think that that Donald Rumsfeld will go down in history as one of the worst secretaries of defense in history," McCain said to applause.


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AZ_MCCAIN_2008_AZOL-?SITE=VARIT&SECTION=US&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-02-19-15-22-37
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 05:55 PM
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1. So why didn't we hear from McCain earlier?
What a hypoprick!
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 06:24 PM
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7. because now the war has become so unpopular that even he has to disown it
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:26 PM
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15. To be fair,
McCain criticized Rumsfeld plenty back when he was in power.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:10 PM
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17. Oh, really?
Linkie?
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 10:38 PM
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19. Take your pick:
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 05:59 PM
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2. OH, ********!!! IT WASN'T MISMANAGEMENT!
Edited on Mon Feb-19-07 06:07 PM by PDJane
IT WAS AN ILLEGAL INVASION, AND YOU CAN'T MANAGE AN INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF A COUNTRY WELL!


Lord and Lady! I HATE that talking point. No one could have done it better, unless they freaking well stayed home in the first place!!

(end rant. Sorry.)
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 06:01 PM
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3. What, is today Insanely Safe Position Announcement Day?
Hillary announcing her groundbreaking opposition to the Stars and Bars and now McCain calling Rummy a failure.

Wow.

I guess this is what REAL leadership looks like.

:sarcasm:
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 06:01 PM
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4. McNamera wasn't that great either!!
So far, he lost more troops than rummy.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 06:13 PM
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5. Buhwawawawa! PIMPROTFFLMGDAO!!!
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 06:17 PM
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6. You're a little late there Johnny Boy!!!
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:18 PM
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8. Since Sen. McCain confirmed Rummy's status
When is *Co going to present Rummy with a medal?
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BeFrank Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:00 PM
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9. It's almost like Sen. McCain is running for president. But a person
would never change a position because its not popular would they?
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:06 PM
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10. Hillary & McCain play both sides of the net so often
they could engage each other in circular tennis.

I think - no joke - that they will wind up on the same ticket.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:25 PM
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11. But I'm sure McCain still thinks the
guy who appointed Rumsfeld and kept him on to screw things up for six years is a strong leader, quite huggable, and an all-around great guy!
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:33 PM
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12. One would hope that the members of the Republic party
would notice this "flip-flop".

Please let this clown be the nominee.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:39 AM
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13. Rummy's fault, not Junior's blah blah blah
Somebody else must have nominated him Secretary of Defense. Why, Junior was against this all along. So was I. And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids. Insert Publican slogan du jour. Blah blah blah.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:17 PM
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14. related: White House defends Rumsfeld from McCain criticism
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2033108620070220

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House defended Donald Rumsfeld on Tuesday from criticism from Republican Sen. John McCain that he was one of the worst U.S. defense secretaries ever for his handling of the Iraq war.

McCain, one of President George W. Bush's key allies in the U.S. Congress on Iraq, is running for his party's nomination to be president in 2008.

"I think that Donald Rumsfeld will go down in history as one of the worst secretaries of defense in history," the Arizona senator and former Vietnam War veteran said on the campaign trail in South Carolina on Monday.

The White House backed Rumsfeld but was careful not to criticize McCain in doing so.

"We think Donald Rumsfeld was an enormously consequential and effective secretary of defense and somebody who led to the transformation of the Department of Defense. Senator McCain holds a different point of view," said White House spokesman Tony Snow.

...more...
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GreenZoneLT Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:49 AM
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24. Mmmmm, that's good spin.
You could say Hitler was an enormously consequential and effective leader of Germany who led the transformation of Europe, without really stretching the truth. Now, the consequences, effects and transformation may have been catastrophic, but there was no shortage of them. Same's true of Rummy.

I bet Tony Snow has to strap himself into bed to keep from spinning out on the floor every night.

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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:47 PM
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16. aww come onnnn, he did a brilliant job engineering 9/11
... gotta give credit where credit's deserved.

traitorous felon...
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 10:19 PM
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18. Worst in history...along with his boss
Now - Johno - get to naming the worst CinC/ President ever.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:22 PM
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20. McCain.. one of the worst Senators in history...
He is a turncoat and a tool, all rolled into one.

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:38 PM
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21. OOOooo, what a big man, picking on an already fired govt. official
I'll be impressed when McCain says the same about Cheney, Condi, Gonzales or the Chimp himself.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:27 AM
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22. thanks for speaking out when it would have really counted, you f'n WHORE
:puke:
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:30 AM
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23. Too little. Way too late John. You should have developed this...
...astoundingly firm grasp on the obvious a little bit sooner.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:11 AM
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25. Shut the fuck up McCain, you disgusting toady, no one wants to hear your LIES
You are Bushler. Bushler is YOU.

I can think of no worse unmitigated disaster, save perhaps Emperor Jeb, than having this unprincipled, immoral, enabler of tyrant and tyranny to rule us.

What it will mean: NOTHING WILL CHANGE. Maybe some smiley faces will be drawn on the corpses of our soldiers and the tortured, but NOTHING will actually change.

More Bush lies = More McCain Lies
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:31 AM
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26. Struggling McCain attacks old target
Looks like the UK torygraph disapproves. Mind you, you'd think from the way people are blathering on in this thread that Rumsfled was beyond reproach! :eyes:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/21/wuspols21.xml

Trailing in the polls and increasingly isolated by his pro-war stance, John McCain has sought to boost his presidential bid by attacking Donald Rumsfeld and the Bush administration for "mismanagement" in Iraq.

While strongly backing President George W Bush's decision to send an extra 21,500 troops, Mr McCain pulled no punches while addressing a crowd in South Carolina.

"We are paying a very heavy price for the mismanagement – that's the kindest word I can give you – of Donald Rumsfeld, of this war."

He was applauded as he labelled Mr Rumsfeld, who has gone from Republican hero to bogeyman since the Iraq invasion, as a "disaster". "I think that Donald Rumsfeld will go down as one of the worst secretaries of defence in history," he added.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:02 AM
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27. McCain, shut up, you'll never be President
just shut up
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:51 AM
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28. Rumsfeld one of the worst secretaries of defense in history!
Oh, and this just in:

Bears shit in the woods.
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