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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:07 AM
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WTO talks on brink of failure: Mandelson
London, Jan 08: Global trade talks are on the brink of failure and can only succeed with the backing of US President George W Bush, European Trade Commissioner Peter Mandelson has said.

"We are on a knife-edge," Mandelson said before his meetings today with President Bush and Susan Schwab, the US Trade Representative.

"We have to engage President Bush personally, because this deal can only be done with his authority," he told a news magazine.

During the meeting, officials will call for the US to cut its maximum annual spend on farm subsidies from USD 23 billion to USD 15 billion. In return, they will offer a further reduction in eu trade tariffs.
http://www.zeenews.com/articles.asp?aid=346579&ssid=51&sid=BUS


<snip> The US wants a 64 per cent cut in EU tariffs.= Mandelson rejected the suggestion that the democratic control of Congress spelled the end for multilateral trade deals. "Democrats want the US to re-engage with the world. And they want to be re-elected in 2008. They wont do that if they get a reputation for being anti-business and anti-free-trade."
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:25 AM
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1. A sorry-ass state of affairs if they have to depend on Commander AWOL
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 07:26 AM by SpiralHawk
Who has screwed up everything he's ever touched in his privileged preppy life.

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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:47 AM
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3. Hey, why should the rest of the world get a free ride?
Smirk's incompetence is so wide and deep that there's plenty to share with other nations.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 05:37 PM
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14. If stupid were combustible, we'd be oil-free for years with the biblical "burning Bush."
:dunce:
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:46 AM
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2. A former member of the Blair govenment giving a lecture on electability
:rofl: that's a good one!
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:02 AM
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4. I wonder how much money WalMart put in Mandelson's pocket?
Yeah, that's right. More trade deals. More job exports. Yeah, that's the ticket, Right Pete????
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:21 AM
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5. Good. I hope they fail. The WTO has too much power over America. (nt)
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:36 AM
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6. Why do you think WTO has too much power over America?
Do you think it also has to much power over other nations?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 04:42 PM
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12. WTO is a proxy for the multinationals. Yes I think it does. (nt)
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:37 AM
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7. Let's hope they go over the brink, crash, and burn.
So-called free trade is just another way of saying
"rape the workers".
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:40 AM
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8. The quicker the better
Far too much power over life.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:51 AM
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9. Yes, let's get the wisdom of Economic Laureate Bush on this
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 09:55 AM
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10. Global corporate predation is not "free trade." Monopolistic transnational
corporations is not business--it is welfare for the rich. It is rigged markets and rigged rules. It is all-powerful pirates roaming the planet for the cheapest labor markets and the most unprotected natural resources. It is the pillaging of local economies, and sometimes even the killing of local peasants and leftists who get in the way. It is massive pollution to the point of killing the very planet we live on, for profit.

Real business and truly free trade are expressions of creativity, innovation, cultural variety, adventuresomness, industriousness, and loyalty among workers, business owners and communities. Real business and truly free trade CARE ABOUT the environment, education, decent lives for everyone, enlightened thinking and progressive ideas of every kind. The people in real businesses, and into making things and selling things, have ALWAYS cared about enlightened policy. You can't have good products and services, efficient people-run manufacturing, and reliable trade routes, WITHOUT decent and stable societies. But you DON'T need decent and stable societies for plundering and looting and profiteering--the primary goals of multi-national corporations.

There is a huge difference between corporate free trade and real free trade. Like night and day.

The model that is held up as onerous to business and to freedom is the Soviet/Stalinist model of tyrannical central control of manufacturing and distribution--of all aspects of trade. Well, that's what we have with multinational corporations controlling all markets, resources and rules. It is Soviet-style tyranny for the super-rich.

It is not free.

This asshole shill for the multinational tyrants and pillagers--Mandelson--dares to threaten Democrats who challenge their rule! He dares to say that it is "anti-business" to be pro-FAIR trade! He dares to threaten war profiteering corporate news monopoly propaganda against them, if they call "free trade" what it really is--"rigged trade," "fascist trade," "planet-killing trade," "trade for the super-rich." Oh, yes, they will get a "reputation." The Wall Street Journal will see to it.

The World Trade Organization is the secret, undemocratic, and democracy-killing club of the super-rich corporations and their bought-and-paid-for governments. It tells workers in Saipan sweatshops "no bathroom breaks." It tells workers in Mexico who want $3 an hour to shove it--the jobs are going to Cambodia where people get paid 25 cents a day. It tells a progressive state that it cannot protect its air, its water, its forests--that is "anti-free trade." Combined with the World Bank/IMF, it tells 'little countries" that they can have big, big loans, if they just get rid of their labor laws, and environmental laws, and cut education and social welfare programs. It permits big US ag to dump powdered milk on the market in Jamaica, destroying the local Jamaican dairy industry (fresh milk!) forever more.

The WTO is the most anti-business, anti-trade, anti-people, and, quite frankly, one of the most dangerous institutions on earth. It is destroying LOCAL SOVEREIGNTY.

And if the Democrats KEEP their already earned "reputation" as the party that INITIATED the outsourcing of jobs, and the end of our sovereignty as a people, and want the plaudits of the Wall Street Journal, then they can go the way of the Republican Party and its fascist war. Cuz the people are not going to put up with it. People are rebelling against these policies are over the world, but most especially in Latin America, which is rejecting BOTH parties--the fascists and the corporatists--and is electing real leftist (majorityist) governments throughout South America--in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina, and soon in Paraguay and Peru--and also in Brazil, Chile and Uruguay, and up into Central America, with a new leftist government in Nicaragua, and a huge leftist movement in southern Mexico and Mexico City. Brazil in fact led the 20-country, third world walkout at the WTO at Cancun, in 2003. So maybe we need a new party, too, hm? That's what the Democrats are going to get, if they listen to this guy and heed his threats. They are going to get thrown out, just like the Bushites.

Go back to your roots, Democrats--as the party of the workers and SMALL BUSINESS, the party of all of the people, the "big tent" party! That is the future. The WTO and its fascist "neo-liberal" dictates are dead. Nobody is listening to them any more, just as no one is listening to Bushites any more. So get with it, Democrats! Join the future! Lead it!



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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 05:40 PM
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15. Amen, sister! Hallelujah!
:patriot:
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 05:48 PM
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16. Yowza. Best post on this subject in years. Thank you! n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:52 AM
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11. Good.
:thumbsup:
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 04:48 PM
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13. I see your "good" and raise you a
HURRAH!

The sooner these repressive trade agreement crumble the better for us all.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 06:02 PM
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17. " a reputation for being anti-business and anti-free-trade."
That's true, if the Dems don't screw labor and the middle class harder, not a single corporation will vote for them in 08.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:06 PM
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18. Cut farm subsidies from 23 billion to 15 billion
Dang, wouldn't that piss off ADM and Cargill? I am reading the story of the demise of the family farm in "Omnivore's Dilemma" by Michael Pollan. Great read on family vs corporate farming.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:20 PM
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19. Somehow, I'm not shedding any tears.
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