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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 09:23 PM
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Iran's parliament wants Ahmadinejad out/ Jerusalem Post
Dec. 3, 2006 21:00 | Updated Dec. 4, 2006 1:02
Iran's parliament wants Ahmadinejad out
By DPA
TEHERAN, Iran

Iran's parliament wants the next presidential elections to be held more than one year early, the Fars news agency reported Sunday.

Parliament approved a draft bill upon which the parliamentary and presidential elections would be held simultaneously in the first quarter of 2008.

As the next parliamentary elections are scheduled for February 2008, but the next presidential elections for June 2009, the new bill would reduce the four-year presidential term of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by almost one and a half years.

The members of parliament in favor of the bill, more than 80 percent, say that the simultaneous formation of the executive and legislative powers would enable better cooperation between the two powers and strengthen parliament's supervision role.

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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1164881810001&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 09:27 PM
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1. Jerusalemn Post? A little conflict of interest don't you think?
It's like the Republican Gazette saying that Democrats hate Hillary.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 09:31 PM
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2. LOL!!!
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 09:34 PM
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3. I just scoured the english version of FARS and couldn't find
nary a peep about elections, parliament or otherwise.

Is this just more JPost agit-prop bullshit?

http://english.farsnews.com/farsnews.php
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 09:36 PM
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4. re-election is legal in Iran
which immediately discounts the misleading claim that the parliament "wants him out". He does not have to be "out", but he would very likely run for re-election.

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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:14 PM
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5. And he would win.
He's pretty popular in the country. Bush has assured that. The economy's on the upswing, and Iran has more regional influence than in a long time.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 11:28 PM
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6. Can you read Farsi?
It seems the Farsi version is much more complete.
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LetsGoMurphys Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:05 AM
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7. Do they have any credible polling in Iran?
Is this guy really popular?
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 09:24 AM
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8. Well if true...
it more or less belies the claim that Israel is the ONLY democracy.

If I recall Ahmadinejad's faction only barely won the last Presidential elections and they didn't do well in the Parliamentary elections -- so all things being equal -- I imagine that since Ahmadinejad isn't doing a good job, there might be a movement afoot to push him out sooner than later.

Unfortunately this is no help to either people in the US or Israel concerning problems with their Presidents.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 09:29 AM
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9. Seeing
as who can and cannot run in Iran is largely determined by a religious council, the claim that Iran is a democracy is ludicrous.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 09:34 AM
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10. Kinda like the US Republic party in recent times. n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 09:40 AM
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11. Really?
You mean the republican party controls who the dems nominate?
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 10:18 AM
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12. Sure...
just curious have any OTHER Prime Ministers in Israel being indicted for rape lately? The guy who replaced him was decided by...what?
How is that largely unelected coalition running the country doing anyway? Good to see the the addition of Lieberman. -- He was voted to his position, right? He wasn't chosen or anything, right?

Maybe Israel should think about having their politicians determined by a religious council -- might improve the quality.

I think we can both agree that folks in both those countries deserve a lot better...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 10:40 AM
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13. Having read a great many of your posts
I suspect, thankfully, that we agree on very little. And of course Israel had nothing to do with the OP, or my post, but some people are so reflexively anti-Israel, that virtually anything in the ME, becomes fodder for an absurd anti-Israel remark.

I've made plenty of comments highly critical of Israel. I'll surely make many more, but I don't connect every post about the ME to Israel. Your post about the PM being indicted for rape is not only bizarre, it's faulty. Moshe Katsav is not, and never has been the PM of Israel. And He hasn't been indicted. He is the President of Israel- a post with little power whatsoever. Does that absolve him? Of course not, and it looks very much as if he will be indicted, a clear indication that the justice system in Israel, flawed as it is in many ways, is working in this case.

You can't even get your facts straight. Really, it's not that hard to check out whether a claim one is making is factual or not. I knew you were wrong factually (nothing new in that), and it took me all of 60 seconds to verify the facts.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:15 PM
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14. Oh...OK
um...facts. OK it's the President and NOT the Prime Minister...did you want to bold that with a /h2 headline? I don't mind being proved 'wrong' on that point. What about the other points? I take it you agree with the rest?

Mind you I understand that the Iranian Presidency doesn't have much power either -- but that certainly doesn't stop people from believing otherwise including the Jerusalem Post.

Second -- um -- maybe I missed the part about the OP being from the Jerusalem Post...last time I looked that was in Israel. It's still in Israel right? It still publishes fabricated stories about Iran doesn't it? Are Jews in Iran still required to wear badges? Did Hamas really kill all those kids on that beach with their 'IDF seal beach traps'?

(Ironically I, a mere poster on a forum, is being held to a much higher standard than the entire newspaper industry. Suffice it to say I will do what the media does and simply state 'prominent Israeli politicians' when they are too lazy to google it)

Rape charge recommended for Israeli president



JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Police in Israel are recommending that the country's president be charged with rape and other crimes against several women.

Police issued a statement Sunday announcing that authorities have asked Attorney General Menahem Mazuz to charge Israeli President Moshe Katsav with rape, indecent assault and sexual harassment of an undisclosed number of women.

Investigators also have evidence that Katsav illegally pardoned people convicted of crimes and conducted illegal wiretaps, the statement said.

....

"There are apparently some members of Knesset who want to hover like vultures over carcasses and create provocations and to harm the image of the Knesset and symbols of power in Israel," Lior Katsav told Army Radio, according to the AP. "The president will not be part of this charade." (I added this paragraph is for you!! I figured you like the quote from Army Radio decrying the destruction of Israel. Do they mean these Knesset vultures)

....

The charges facing Katsav would be the most serious criminal counts brought against a serving Israeli official. A previous president and several prime ministers have been suspected of financial misdeeds, and a former defense minister was convicted of sexual harassment.

CNN

(dontcha love the weasel word -- financial misdeeds!! CNN is oh so thoughtful)

It's good to know these guys have nuclear weapons at the ready... :eyes:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:54 PM
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15. I think it was the President of Isreal who was indicted for rape
I also think his is a mostly ceremonial post. But I could be wrong.
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