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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:27 PM
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Lamont Compares Sen. Lieberman to Nixon
...Putting a fresh focus on the issue that powered him to victory in August's Democratic primary, Lamont mentioned Vietnam in criticizing Lieberman, who is running as an independent in his re-election bid.

"Iraq is Joe's war of choice, and he's been its strongest and staunchest supporter every step of the way," Lamont said in a speech at the University of Hartford. "And in the greatest act of audacity of all, he is now asking Connecticut voters not just for a fourth term, but to hold him harmless for his role in the most dangerous foreign policy blunder of our generation."
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Lamont recalled that during the Vietnam War, former President Nixon voiced support for bringing the troops home even as he continued to pursue the war at a cost of 9,000 lives. He noted Lieberman has spoke recently of wanting to end the war as soon as possible.

"That's about as credible as Richard Nixon was almost 40 years ago," he said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/24/ap/politics/mainD8KV9N300.shtml
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:30 PM
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1. Lamont Compares Lieberman to Nixon
Edited on Tue Oct-24-06 09:30 PM by Judi Lynn
Lamont Compares Lieberman to Nixon
By ANDREW MIGA 10.24.06, 6:34 PM ET

Trailing in the polls, Democrat Ned Lamont called the Iraq conflict Sen. Joe Lieberman's "war of choice" and compared his rival to former Republican President Nixon.

Putting a fresh focus on the issue that powered him to victory in August's Democratic primary, Lamont mentioned Vietnam in criticizing Lieberman, who is running as an independent in his re-election bid.

"Iraq is Joe's war of choice, and he's been its strongest and staunchest supporter every step of the way," Lamont said in a speech at the University of Hartford. "And in the greatest act of audacity of all, he is now asking Connecticut voters not just for a fourth term, but to hold him harmless for his role in the most dangerous foreign policy blunder of our generation."

The criticisms were some of Lamont's strongest yet of Lieberman.
(snip/...)

http://www.forbes.com/business/manufacturing/feeds/ap/2006/10/24/ap3117107.html

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:30 PM
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2. Good....he needs to keep the pressure on Lieberman...
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:30 PM
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3. he's not as pretty as nixon was n/t
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:30 PM
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4. Nixon may have been a tad more liberal . . . n/t
Edited on Tue Oct-24-06 09:46 PM by no_hypocrisy
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:34 PM
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5. A bit unfair to Nixon, but Lamont has the right idea.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:29 AM
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6. But Lieberman has never denied being a crook.
:rofl:


That's right. I'm cracking myself up tonight. :hi:

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:58 PM
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11. Speaking of crooks, lieberman camp spins and backtracks (update!)
http://connecticutblog.blogspot.com/2006/10/whats-joe-lieberman-hiding.html

Why won't the Lieberman campaign allow reporters to inspect his records and check how the 387,000 is "petty cash" was used?

The Lieberman campaign is steadfastly refusing to allow reporters to inspect documents related to a $387,000 disbursement of petty cash before the primary election. By law, the campaign is required to keep a petty cash journal.

According to the Federal Elections Commission, a campaign can make payments of under $100 through “petty cash” as the campaign said it did with “volunteers” in the field during the days leading up to the primary, paying them between $50 and $100 a day.
Joe Lieberman dished out 387,000 is cold hard cash 12 days before the primary. This was the same time the Liebergoons came out in force and disrupted various Lamont events.


The rest of the piece details the lieberman camp's obfuscations, lies, and spin - a definite must-read!

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:16 AM
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7. Compare him to Bush!
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:24 PM
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13. Yeah that's better
Nixon doesn't get people worked up anymore. It's been what, over thirty years since Tricky was in office. You figure everyone under the age of 32 wasn't alive when Nixon was in office. And it is a good bet that anyone between the ages of 40 and 32 can't remember Nixon being in office.

Compare Lieberman to Bush. People understand that comparison.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:06 AM
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8. IIRC,
the most of the troops were brought home on Nixon's watch.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:49 AM
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9. Take it to him Ned. Win or lose, the Hoe will never be the same.
Get used to this Joe. Your 'career' is over no matter what the outcome of the election because who and what you are, and who you serve, becomes clearer every day.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:52 PM
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10. So, anything new on that missing money lieberman can't account for?
Any updates?

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:10 PM
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12. Frankly, that's an insult to Nixon. nt
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 10:11 PM by bemildred
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:40 PM
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14. Compared to Bush(s), Nixon is almost rehabilitated.n/t
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98geoduck Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:10 PM
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17. War Debate Key Issue In Endorsements""Lieberman was not amused."


"Lieberman was not amused.
"I think it's ridiculous. The Lamont campaign is getting desperate and almost silly," Lieberman said. "Now, resurrecting the ghost of Richard Nixon and morphing me into him, that's not the kind of debate we ought to have."

Kerry had a different take.

"The Nixon analogy is a very poignant one to me, because I remember him running with a `secret plan for peace.' That was in 1968. He ran and won re-election in 1972, four years later. And it wasn't until three years after that, that troops were finally gone," Kerry said. "Half the names on the Vietnam wall, folks, were put there after our leaders knew the strategy was bankrupt and it wasn't going to work."

Kerry said that was immoral then. He added, "I think to engage in that same delusion today is equally as immoral."


http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-senate1026.artoct26,0,7892109.story?coll=hc-headlines-politics-state
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:21 PM
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15. well, Joe does sit on the Nixon Center's Board of Directors
fits 'in' with the likes of crimes against humanity's Henry Kissinger; been/being investigated by Eliot Spitzer, Maurice Greenberg and son Evan; currently in the courts, Conrad Black; Council for Foreign Relations' founder Leslie Gelb, et al.


Board of Directors

Honorary Chairman: Henry A. Kissinger

Chairman: Maurice R. Greenberg

Dwayne O. Andreas
Jeffrey L. Bewkes
Conrad M. Black
Charles G. Boyd
Tricia Nixon Cox
Julie Nixon Eisenhower
Robert F. Ellsworth (Vice Chairman)
Leslie H. Gelb
Henry A. Kissinger
Eugene K. Lawson
Joseph I. Lieberman <-----------
John McCain
Lionel H. Olmer
Peter G. Peterson
Richard Plepler
Pat Roberts
James Schlesinger
Brent Scowcroft
J. Robinson West
Dimitri K. Simes, Center President (Ex Officio)
John H. Taylor, Executive Director of Richard Nixon Library & Birthplace Foundation (Ex Officio)

Advisory Council

Chairman: James Schlesinger

David Abshire
Richard V. Allen
Christopher Cox
John Deutch
David Eisenhower
Susan Eisenhower
Evan G. Greenberg
Lee H. Hamilton
Rita E. Hauser
Josef Joffe
Donald M. Kendall
Peter Kovler
Charles Krauthammer
Robert C. McFarlane
Janne Nolan
Joseph S. Nye, Jr.
Alexei K. Pushkov
John E. Rielly
Peter R. Rosenblatt
William V. Roth, Jr.
Thomas A. Russo
Angela Stent
Marin Strmecki
Yuli Vorontsov

http://web.archive.org/web/20050205063607/www.nixoncenter.org/boardac.htm


Quite frankly, I don't know how anyone, much less a "Democrat", can/could associate with these people.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:51 PM
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16. Nice find.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:20 PM
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18. Indeed - I had forgotten that!
Thanks for finding it!

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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:58 AM
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22. "The illegal we do immediately." - Kissinger
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 05:39 AM by Amonester

"The unconstitutional takes a little longer."


http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/1470

Mission accomplished, LIEberman. :cry:
Ya must be proud of yourself, huh? :mad:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:24 PM
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19. Another look at the importance of the lieberman slush-fund scandal...
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/10/24/203410/56

If Lieberman gets away with this, FEC laws are effectively meaningless, and so are state election laws. I'm frankly surprised that a scandal of this magnitude is going largely ignored by Democrats, Republicans supporting Alan Schlesinger, and good government groups across the spectrum. Can you imagine if Bob Menendez did this in New Jersey? The good government groups would be all over it. Or Tom Kean Jr? You'd see a press conference with Reid and Schumer the next day. And yet, because it's Joe Lieberman, he's handing out hundreds of thousands in cold hard cash before the primary to undisclosed individuals, there's no outside groups calling foul. Still, we're all in this together, which means that if Lieberman is allowed to shovel hundreds of thousands of dollars without consequence through his petty cash account, then next cycle you're going to see every Senate, House, and Presidential campaign use it to avoid disclosure requirements. Their claim can simply be 'Lieberman did it', and they will be absolutely right.

Where are the good government groups? Common Cause? CREW? Democracy 21? Public Campaign? Public Citizen? Any one of them could file a complaint with the FEC. Any one of them could file a complaint with the state board of elections. Here's information on how to do it. This is a really really bad precedent to allow to be set.


I agree. Where's the outrage? I contacted the Center for Public Integrity - nothing.

Where's the outrage HERE? This guy is fucking us over, and we're rightly angry at him - this is important!

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98geoduck Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:36 PM
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21. The press is giving Joe WAY TOO MANY "passes" on issues. meanwhile...
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 10:37 PM by 98geoduck
From the Hartford Courant

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Negative Spin Seems To Be In
CAUCUS
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Campaign Notes
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Temporary1 Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:25 PM
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20. Did you see the campaign video?
Good stuff.
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