White House Says Rove Denies Calling Evangelicals "Nuts"

[sabra]

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003254229

White House Says Rove Denies Calling Evangelicals "Nuts"

NEW YORK Today's press briefing by White House Press Secretary Tony Snow was his first since the leaks from a new book appeared, carrying revelations about the allegedly cynical use of the religious right by the White House for political gain. It quotes Karl Rove calling evangelical leaders "nuts," among many other hot charges.

The book is by a former top staffer at the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, David Kuo, and is called, "Tempting Faith: An Inside Story of Political Seduction."

Naturally Snow was asked about all this early on. He replied, "we've asked Karl, did you say the things attributed to you? He said, no." He added that Rove explained, "these are my friends, I don't talk about them like that." Snow labeled "false" the reports that the president did not take faith-based initiatives very seriously, and denied any political twists.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

1. Uh-huh. Right.

What else could they say? Wouldn't be prudent to admit it.

[featherman]

15. Basic rule of politics: make the SOB deny it. Amusing.

Now what else can we accuse him of?

[NewJeffCT]

54. I got it!

Next question for him, "A Secret Service agent said it was Karl Rove that gay male hooker Jeff Gannon visited over 200 times. How does the president feel about his closest aide being involved with Gannon?"

[buddysmellgood]

61. EXACTLY! How does it feel KKKarl?

[lumberjack_jeff]

73. I'm beginning to like the newspaper headlines.

Rove: "I'm not a pigfucker". :D

[wholetruth00]

112. OH my, if he didn't poppy Bush sure called them worse.

I'm checking now on some quotes attributed to GH.

[zonmoy]

74. figures that the creep admits that he is a manipulative creep to those

he manipulated and then turns around and lies about admitting it.

[Joe Bacon]

78. Anything to keep the STATUS KUO, Right, KKKARL?

Just when you think Karl can't get any sleazier...

[silverweb]

2. HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Sure, KKKarl, we believe you!

:rofl: :rofl:

[Richardo]

3. Well. That's that, then. What's next?

We believe you, Tony Snow :eyes:

[LoZoccolo]

39. Rove's word is bond, too. n/t

[wordpix2]

65. lol, Snowjob isn't pulling it off on this forum, te he

:rofl:

[bullimiami]

4. of course he denies it. he said he had nothing to do with plame too.

both lies of course among many.

[tanyev]

29. Yep. It's not a crime to lie to the media or the public, apparently.

Just don't lie to the grand jury.

[Webster Green]

5. Well, that confirms the story

They lie about everything!

[BOSSHOG]

6. Well that's the end of the story

the white house said it and every religiously insane zealot in the country will be repeating it coast to coast so it must be true.

[sharp_stick]

7. Of course he's going to say that

The nuts are their base. You don't insult your base even if they are bat-shit insane which of course they are. Rove is arrogant enough and enough of an asshole to think that it wouldn't get out but now he's going to deny it. It's a pretty big paycheck to be casually insulting like that.

The odd thing is, I think it's the first thing that pig has ever said that I agree with completely.

[rhiannon55]

8. That settles it, then

Would KKKarl lie? :evilgrin:

[Epiphany4z]

9. sorta off the topic

its not rove but wasn't there one of the Abramhoff letters where he called the Evangelicals nuts? a pattern ...of sorts perhaps.

[nickyt]

14. Indeed, the "Scanlon Memo" (released early Nov. last year):

"The wackos get their information through the Christian right, Christian radio, mail, the internet and telephone trees," Scanlon wrote in the memo, which was read into the public record at a hearing of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee. "Simply put, we want to bring out the wackos to vote against something and make sure the rest of the public lets the whole thing slip past them." (Oct 2001)


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/11/03/abramoff/index_np.html
http://indian.senate.gov/2005hrgs/110205hrg/110205exhibits.pdf
http://www.chris-floyd.com/jack/ page 119 "Mobilization"

[badgerpup]

90. Wackos, not nuts.

:wtf:
So...Let me see if I have this straight...
You CAN call your friends 'wackos'...but god forbid you should call them 'nuts'!
All the difference in the world. :sarcasm:

With 'friends' like KKKarl...:puke:
you might as well just shoot yourself and be done with it. At least your reputation may survive...

[Nevernose]

109. They're evil, not crazy

At least the ones running the Freak Circus.

[Nite Owl]

10. Sure Karl like someone

would make this stuff up?

We got them on the defensive, they have to be out there denying charges now. This is an interesting turn.

[gratuitous]

11. I'll use the Patrick McHenry line of reasoning

For those not in the know, Patrick McHenry is the Republican tool from South Carolina who was spouting off on Wolf Blitzer's show about how the Democrats had sprung the Mark Foley Affair in an attempt to win back Congress. He went on with a series of wilder and wilder accusations until Blitzer himself couldn't stomach it anymore, and asked if McHenry had any proof that the Democrats had known about Foley, sat on the story for months, then launched it at the most inopportune time for Republicans. McHenry stuttered, stammered, and finally spluttered that while he didn't have any fancy evidence or proof of his assertions, could Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Democratic leadership prove they hadn't done what he'd just accused them of doing?

So, since Mr. McHenry has so helpfully blazed the trail, let's just follow along. Can Karl Rove prove he didn't call evangelicals and fundamentalists "nuts"? Otherwise, it's perfectly acceptable to say that he did, and tough toenails, Tony.

[shrub chipper]

13. Of course, just like Miss McHenry,

we just sit back and wait for proof that they didn't say those things, right?

[wageslave71]

43. McHenry represents

the 10th Congressional District of North Carolina.

I just got e-mailed this link this afternoon:

http://www.gayhickory.com/category/democratic-party/

[The Wizard]

46. Can Ku Klux Karl

prove he's not the bottom to Jeff Gannon who had several overnight stays in the White House. Who was Gannon topping: Rove, Dick, Bush? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Jackpine Radical]

85. Something I bet you didn't know about McHenry...

He conducts black masses in his basement, where he sacrifices small children after molesting them.

Let him deny it if he can.

[nxylas]

89. I guess that the GOP tearing up of the constitution

means that the fundamental principal of the burden of proof being on the accuser no longer applies.

[bobthedrummer]

12. I smell the sulphur too, Karl. eom

[Qutzupalotl]

23. People should stop pulling Bush's finger.

:nuke:

[no_hypocrisy]

16. That's right. He called them "idiots". Get the name correct. n/t

[PegDAC]

107. Exactly.

It's a technicality. Not an exact quote. So sorry.

[ecstatic]

17. Are we to believe that Snow would be honest about Rove's so called answer

Let's pretend like Tony Snow and Co. did ask Rove about the allegations. Are we to believe that 1) Rove would answer truthfully, and 2) Snow would report truthfully if the answer was, "Yes, I did call them nuts!"??

[Rambis]

18. David Kuo vs Jabba the Hut HMMMMM?

jabba has credibility oozing out of his soul....
Ok, he is telling the truth thanks Tony!

[seafan]

19. So Karl Rove wouldn't HEAR of disparaging the Christian Right...

Karl and his close associates would NEVER disparage the Christian Right...WHY, they owe their political positions and fat bank accounts to these people.





Michael Scanlon and Jack Abramoff

November 3, 2005

Up-and-coming Republican hacks would do well to watch closely the ongoing Senate investigations of superstar lobbyist Jack Abramoff and his former business partner Michael Scanlon. The power duo stand accused of exploiting Native American tribes to the tune of roughly $66 million, laundering that money into bank accounts they controlled and then using it to buy favors for powerful members of Congress and the executive branch.

But they sure did know how to play the game.

Consider one memo highlighted in a Capitol Hill hearing Wednesday that Scanlon, a former aide to Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas, sent the Coushatta Tribe of Louisiana to describe his strategy for protecting the tribe's gambling business. In plain terms, Scanlon confessed the source code of recent Republican electoral victories: target religious conservatives, distract everyone else, and then railroad through complex initiatives.

"The wackos get their information through the Christian right, Christian radio, mail, the internet and telephone trees," Scanlon wrote in the memo, which was read into the public record at a hearing of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee. "Simply put, we want to bring out the wackos to vote against something and make sure the rest of the public lets the whole thing slip past them." The brilliance of this strategy was twofold: Not only would most voters not know about an initiative to protect Coushatta gambling revenues, but religious "wackos" could be tricked into supporting gambling at the Coushatta casino even as they thought they were opposing it.

snip

Hypocrisy has a sulfurous stench.

[kestrel91316]

20. Why do those pics of Scanlon and Abramoff on your post

set off my (admittedly imperfect) gaydar???????

Is it me? Or do those two have a secret?

[seafan]

24. Scanlon was a lifeguard and Abramoff was a wrestler in younger days....

And I don't know the answer to your question, lol.

[wordpix2]

67. hmm, same thought crossed my mind. Then there's the other WH duo, Rove &

Gannnon.

Not that there's anything wrong with being gay except the hypocrisy of being gay while reThuglican. It is now all very understandable, the contempt these gay men must feel for the wacko gay bashers and anti-abortionists.

[disndat]

87. Rightwing irony

Wouldn't it be perfect justice, if the Christian "family value" Fundamentalists find out they've been supporting and hugely funding s WH that is the biggest 'closet' ever to inhabit the WH?

[daleo]

21. He didn't call them "nuts"

So he used some other term, like "looney".

[civildisoBDence]

35. And Abramoff called his Native American clients "monkeys"

To be a fly on the wall when these cynical assholes get together...

Newsprism--News and commentary, left to right

[Kierkegaard]

56. All it would take to topple the entire government

would be an invisible man with a camera and about an hour of battery life.

[Eurobabe]

64. And Sen Macacawitz never used the N word either

Fucking lying CONS.

[wordpix2]

68. bwahahahaha, that's a great name for the senator, er ex-senator, lol

:rofl:

[MidwestTransplant]

22. The added quote about "friends" should seal it for anybody who was

doubtful about the truthfulness of the book.

[truthisfreedom]

25. if Kuo had been lying about any of it, the response from the WH would have

been ferocious, claiming a partisan attack, claiming that Kuo had been paid to lie. this calm response sounds completely false, and will not resonate with the base.

[Journeyman]

26. Richard Wright, "Black Boy". . .

"Now, boy, I want to ask you one question and I want you to tell me the truth," she said.

"Yes ma'am," I said, afraid to trust my own judgment.

"Do you steal?" she asked me seriously.

I burst into a laugh, then checked myself.

"What's so damn funny about that?" she asked me seriously.

"Lady, if I was a thief, I'd never tell anybody."

<snip>

Habit had overcome her rationality and had made her ask me: "Boy, do you steal?" Only an idiot would have answered: "Yes, ma'am. I steal."

[ChairmanAgnostic]

27. morons, yes; pond scum, yes; crazies, yes: Nuts, NO.

yeah, that is accurate.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

50. Don't forget "batshit crazy"

nt

[ChairmanAgnostic]

96. but is that a yes or a no?

[bluerum]

28. Well,,, he probably just forgot that he hates fundies. nt

[Catherine Vincent]

30. He probably didn't call them "nuts".

He called them "fucking nuts". That is totally different.

[TygrBright]

31. It's TRUE! He never called them "nuts"... he called them...

...."loonies and yokels."

So there.

vindicatorially,
Bright

[momzno1]

32. at least they are consistent

they lie about ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING that they do.

[liberal N proud]

33. And we are supposed to believe them?

They haven't told me the truth about anything to date. Why would I think they are going to start now?

[The Wizard]

86. It started with the

Clinton staff vandalizing the White House. The whole Republican Party has a nervous tic from lying.

[JRob]

34. ...and we expected him to say? OK then, we believe you. Give me a break!

Like this is going to stop speculation one way or the other. Credibility? Not!

[BlueEyedSon]

36. Well then, it's settled!

:rofl:

[Megahurtz]

37. Hahahahahahaha!!!

:rofl: That's totally hilarious!

[rodeodance]

38. okey doky rovey---we believe you.

NOT

[rodeodance]

40. YO ROVE---you should not betray your friends like this. no no no

"these are my friends, I don't talk about them like that."

[leesa]

58. 'Good friend' Kuo is about to get a Rove lynch job. Wonder how that'll

play out.

[Gman]

41. This is the perfect job for Tony Snow

he's such a damn good liar. You gotta give the guy credit. He's a pathological liar and lies as good as anyone I've ever seen. Ron Ziegler would have loved to have been as good a liar as Snow. Nixxon would have loved to have had Snow as his spokesman.

[wordpix2]

70. yes, Snowjob is very good in his covering-for-the-pResident role

what a frigging bunch of flaming criminal a-holes

[lovuian]

42. Sickos loonies Wackos and Uninformed have been sooo

USED and the Religious Right wake up and see your
Hero Bush just USED you idiots

I told this to my Christian Right friend and told her Roe vs Wade after 6 years of Republican rule is still in effect...

[Arugula Latte]

44. I agree with Karl Rove!

:scared:

The religiously insane ARE frickin' nuts.

[delete_bush]

45. Odd, it appears the story has changed...

It quotes Karl Rove or staffers close to him calling evangelical leaders "nuts," among many other hot charges.

Regardless, a fish smells from the head.

:shrug:

[glitch]

47. Oooooh, I thought it was WRONG to deny, isn't it a sign of WEAKNESS

to be on defense? Shouldn't they just be sneering and ignoring? :rofl:

[Rude Horner]

48. Anybody catch Snow's Freudian slip?

****
This is one of these things where he believes years and years down the road, when people are reviewing this White House, this is going to be one of the signal accomplishments. Using -- harnessing the power of faith to deal with people one on one, face to face, in dealing with some of the most intractable problems that our society faces.
****

You had it right the first time, Tony. USING. Yes, the repub's have been USING the faith based community for years.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

93. great catch. LOL!

hahahah!!! Made even more evident by the correction.

[Dover]

49. Oh my.......looks like Rove might be 'left behind'.

Besides, it takes one to know one. Nuts and nuts.

[cui bono]

51. "we've asked Karl, did leak Valerie Plame's name? He said, no."

[bunny planet]

52. He also swore up and down he had nothing to do with leaking Valerie

Plame's name either. Such a paragon of honesty, the Pillsbury Roveboy.

[whistle]

53. Oh well, if the White House says that Rove denies calling

...evangelicals "nuts" then I guess that is believable...:wtf:

Let's put KKKarl Rove and others in the White House under oath and ask that question.

[wordpix2]

69. good idea, I would love to see the bunch of them hauled up before a GJ

These guys needs to have their pockets wrung out of their money and spend the rest of their lives on a Georgia road crew in chains.

[PegDAC]

108. How about

Joe Arpaio's tent city in Phoenix in June?

[tblue37]

55. Of course he denies it.

That doesn't in any way prove that he didn't say it.

[AlCzervik]

57. sure, i also deny calling my sister in law a raving lunatic and battle axe

but when she's not around thats exactly how i refer to her.

[TankLV]

59. LIARS! They couldn't tell the truth if GOD threatened them...

I don't ever believe ANYTHING those WAR CRIMINALS ever say!

I bet my life & fortune on that stance, and it's money in the bank...

[pinto]

60. Bwaahahaha. I, for one, don't buy it.

[proud patriot]

62. This reminds me of Valerie Plame

snotty scotty QUACK QUACK said the same thing
about Rove durring in response to a Plame question.

[mod mom]

63. I guess Woodward was wrong in his attribution of nuts to blackwell as well

looks like a pattern of nuts calling to me.

[Warren DeMontague]

66. You mean Karl Rove called the Extra Chromosome Conservatives "Nuts"?

Wait a minute, you can't do that!

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/05/opinion/05dowd.html?ex=1252123200&en=2996960f258fca85&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

[SoCalDem]

71. He's right, you know.. he called them F'ing Nuts..

[lpbk2713]

72. Q: How do you tell if a rethuglican is lying?

A: See if his/her lips are moving.

[Olney Blue]

105. Or his/her fingers are typing on a computer keyboard.

[MarinCoUSA]

75. Who the Fu*k CARES what these liars say. Anytime! Anywhere?

n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

76. Wow, Rove's word. That's gotta be all we need.

Would you buy a used car from Karl Rove?

[indepat]

77. That evangelicals who support this cabal are nuts is inescapable

and would be inexplicable but for the fact that's what those brainwashed and lacking any critical-thinking skills do which explains almost all of the 'puke base.

[rodeodance]

79. White House denies book's allegations

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061014/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_aide_s_book;_ylt=AnKsR_67mz4DdTICLkZOWpc7Xs8F;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--

White House denies book's allegations

By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer Fri Oct 13, 9:40 PM ET

WASHINGTON - A former Bush aide claims that evangelical Christians were embraced for political gain at the White House but derided privately as "nuts," "ridiculous" and "goofy."



The allegations — denied by the White House on Friday — are in a new book by David Kuo, a conservative Christian who was deputy director of
President Bush's Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives until 2003.

The book describes Kuo's frustration at what he felt was lackluster enthusiasm in the White House for the program, which seeks to steer more federal social service contracts to religious organizations. Details from the book, "Tempting Faith: An Inside Story of Political Seduction," were reported by MSNBC ahead of Monday's publication date.

Kuo singled out staffers in the office of Karl Rove, Bush's top political adviser and deputy chief of staff, as particularly condescending toward evangelical Christians, viewing them as necessary to help win elections but ridiculing them behind the scenes.

[rodeodance]

80. Snow read from what he called a "very warm letter" Kuo wrote to Bush ----

.....Bush's spokesman also said there was no attempt to exploit the office to score political points, and that the president had specifically directed it not be politicized.

Snow denied Kuo's charge that the White House's religious charities program wasn't given the status it deserved, saying Bush's personal commitment to the policy was solid. Kuo has complained publicly in the past that the White House did not push hard enough for promised federal funding for religious groups to help the poor.

Snow read from what he called a "very warm letter" Kuo wrote to Bush when he left the White House. Kuo told the president he was proud of what the initiative had accomplished and said "it's your staff's keen awareness of your unwavering support for this initiative that's made the difference."

Snow concluded that the reports on the book "seem at odds with what he was saying inside the building at the time he departed."

Kuo's account of how the faith-based office has been regarded inside the White House recalls that of another high-level alumnus of the program. John J. DiIulio Jr., the faith-based office's first director, who quit in 2002, told Esquire magazine that "Mayberry Machiavellis" led by Rove based policy only on re-election concerns. After his comments caused an uproar, DiIulio apologized for making what he said were rude remarks........

[MissWaverly]

81. No, he really said "cashews"

just like he never revealed Valerie Plame's name, he just said the wife of Joseph Wilson.

[mrfocus]

82. Isn't it funny that an agnostic like Karl Rove...

...steered the GOP firmly into the hand of religious moonbats?

[Bill McBlueState]

83. nice

Denials keep things like this in the news.

[Beelzebud]

84. Ah yes, we should just take them at their word, they never lie!

LOL

Someone shit in Carl's Cheerios with this new book. :D

I love it.

The implosion will be televised. :D

[matthewf]

88. right

suuuuure he denies it

[Zambero]

91. Rove just blew his one shot at telling the truth

He had it right the first time. Now he's not just a panderer but a liar as well. Of course, that's nothing new

[sofa king]

92. That's how he's going to get away with it.

Unfortunately, conservative Christians now heavily invested in Karl Rove, and they'll believe whatever he says so long as he doesn't say what he obviously thinks, which is that the bible thumpers are a bunch of crazy-ass idiots.

They'll believe him because it's easier to believe whatever he says than it is to re-consider their lives as dupes toiling in the service of evil. And their preachers will be backing that up all the way, because if that ball of string ever starts to unravel Pastor Whitemon loses his ten-percent Jesus tax.

[Ladydawnelle]

94. By NOW

NO one (or Barely anyone) believes an Fing Word that comes out of the White House.

Most are just turning the channel or turning OFF the TV all together. (or so I hear from the NON political people I still hang with, also my relatives, my kid and her friends too)

They think I am just torturing myself by keeping up with it all! But if I don't ....... who the hell else will? Or that's what I tell them. And they do come to me when they have questions about certain candidates, etc. Thankfully.

[ShotInTheDark]

95. White House Says Rove Denies Calling Evangelicals "Nuts"

Faux News: In Response, Evangelicals Deny Calling Republicans "Fruits" -- Vow To Support the Alternative Lifestyles of the GOP

(from the Associated Vegetables in the Press)

... ...

Meanwhile, former White House advisor Scooter Libby continues to sell copies of his 1996 pornographic book, The Apprentice, featuring pedophilia, beastiality, rape, and incest.

No reponse from the Republican stalwart when asked if he would pull copies from the bookshelves because of its ilicit content, including sex between a bear and a (caged) pre-pubescent girl.

With new light being shed on the Foley sex scandal, politicians and citizens alike are questioning how Libby is connected to all this, and whether 'The Apprentice' titling is of a gratuitous nature, based upon past experiences with congressional pages.

[Hulk]

97. what did you expect?

When snow-job is confronted with these kinds of questions, there is really only one response he can give. They aren't going to say, "yeah, but he was just pissed off that day..." or "sure, but he really didn't mean it like nuts being crazy, he meant it as an endearing term.." It probably is fun to watch snow-job wiggle and act cute though, but just ask yourself..."can you get an image of Rove doing something like that?" I think you know the answer. Screw snow-job's snow job.

[orpupilofnature57]

99. Hi Hulk , Welcome. Kkkarl is Embodiment of Joe Goebbels

[UncleSepp]

101. Rove couldn't fill Goebbels's shoes

For one, they wouldn't fit ;-)

Seriously. Rove's not that good, or we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[orpupilofnature57]

111. Oh no doubt, Joe was the wizard of Evil.But Kkkarl uses the same apparatus

media wise.

[UncleSepp]

114. Sort of... Rove does not have the apparatus under his control

There are the planted stories and the deals for access, but the news and entertainment media are not under his control nor subject to his review. Friendly media outlets produce helpful material, but he isn't directing any of it. He doesn't have the capacity to keep a play or an opera off the stage. He's not organizing any mass events. The propaganda coming from this administration is still in a pre-revolutionary mode in the domestic sphere, and really only gets to the post-revolutionary phase in foreign propaganda where the restrictions that exist for domestic effords do not apply.

[orpupilofnature57]

116. Ambiguous capability is where Kkkarl has it over Joe ,and getting away...

..with treason ,and though he only holds 5 official jobs ,his influence is dangerous and ultimately Anti-American.

[opihimoimoi]

98. Rove: "I didn't say NUTS"...."I said ASSHOLES...they are ASSHOLES"

"Not NUTs....ASSHOLES....Ya got that???"

[mkb]

100. Republican Leadership Is Money Driven, Not Values Oriented

     Money, Sex, and Power is what the lessons should be for
well-meaning people in the world to learn.
     These are the most visible driving forces that humans
engage in, and the people who traditionally wield power are
products of that struggle.  They cooperate with more
reasonable people only because they must, at least to some
degree, in order to get what they want.  So the relationship
to evangelicals should be seen as making friends only to get
power and have those desired things in life.
     I hope people will see this Republican strategy as
clearly as possible, and think about hypocrisy and why it
happens.
     As always, there are consequences to even thinking for
yourself, as well as stating opinions and voting.  So think
things through before you act, but I hope realizing it's hard
to not do anything in this world and have things work out. 
Good Luck.

[JPZenger]

102. They Used "Faith" Programs to Buy Support for Bush by Ministers

The faith based programs were a sham. They were used to buy the political support of minority ministers, such as an African-American minister in an impoverished part of North Philadelphia. The Repubs poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into his church before the 2004 election, which allowed for a photo op of Bush speaking inside a Church of Black people.

In Bethlehem PA, we have a new large Federally funded building named "The Christian Education Center." One of the ministers behind that center became infamous for his court challenge of an Allentown PA ordinance that prohibited the firing of employees simply because they were gay.

[AIJ Alom]

103. To the defeat the evil over there, we have to defeat the evil here, specif

ically the evil that resides in the White House and the Halls of Congress known as this fraudulent Republican conservatism.

[Kenergy]

104. Snowjob said that? Lying bastard n/t

[Olney Blue]

106. White House admits hiring blatant liar, David Kuo, to work on faith-based

initiatives.

[othermeans]

110. The interview of Kuo on 60 minutes was very interesting. He is

currently being treated for an inoperable brain tumor and far from being a wild eyed fundamentalist he appeared in the interview to be very straightforward and as he said, naive about the way that he was taken in by the Bush administration. He then took Leslie Stahl on a tour of a Fundamentalist convention where he pointed out that the fundamentalist community was not interested in the poor but rather a political agenda as evidenced by their books and tapes for sale.

All in all a person of conscience who left the White House in 2002.

[AllexxisF1]

113. I saw the interview last night.

Although it can be easy to believe this dying man, the guy just seemed like some sort of loon. I don't know if he is on some medication or what, but when he makes the circuit today and through the rest of the week people like O'liely are going to tear him to pieces.

I believe he is on CNN's Situation Room along with Faux tonight.

Going to be interesting.

[Anakin Skywalker]

115. They Deny Speaking the Truth?

Don't they know, "the truth shall set you free"?