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ECH1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:18 PM Original message |
Soldier killed after psychotic reaction to cannabis |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Pot doesn't cause psychotic reactions, but |
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jahyarain (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. thank you! |
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Union Thug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:24 PM Original message |
That was my thought too |
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allisonthegreat (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
11. My thought also...n/t |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
27. While I am favorably disposed to pot in general, I would |
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Union Thug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
63. I'm not buying it. As a LONG TIME daily smoker... |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
105. I can attest to witnessing... |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #105 |
116. "tripping" on pot? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #105 |
124. Uh, yeah...pretty words aside, still NO clinical evidence of this. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #124 |
134. I've gotten too high and got the shakes, but I was around people |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
121. I tend to agree with you, speaking for myself personally. But |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
80. Its properties are actually, as I understand it, VERY well understood |
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Martti (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 02:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
118. Manic-depression |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
82. Any drug can cause a psychotic reaction. |
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personman (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #82 |
92. Disagree. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Thank you for correcting that false assertion. |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:04 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. People in this very thread... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 01:55 PM Response to Reply #100 |
114. The neurochemistry of THC is very different-- |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. Alcohol doesn't relieve pain... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 09:45 PM Response to Reply #120 |
137. What about euphoria? |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #100 |
115. You do realize much of what you're asserting is flatly untrue, right? n/t |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Got proof? nt |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #117 |
126. Burden of proof is on YOU, you made the original bullshit claim. |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #126 |
132. I already posted sources. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 09:15 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. Wait - I'm AGAINST drug warriors, because they are liars and fools. |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 10:23 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. You thought that's what I was arguing? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #117 |
127. Are you just making this stuff up? |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #127 |
131. Not "the same;" read the book and link in my other post. nt |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #100 |
125. Um, they don't affect the brain the same way. |
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jahyarain (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #100 |
129. dude |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. I think this gentleman already had some sort of serious problem... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. This was the ruling of a court in England, after an investigation |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Pot causes serious anxiety in a lot of people. |
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olddad56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
69. and relieves anxiety in others. |
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olddad56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. maybe Pot reacts unfavorably with depleted uranium. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. True. And paranoia in some |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 10:54 AM Response to Reply #73 |
89. Which is why I don't partake of it. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #19 |
96. I'd like clinical evidence that it's pot that causes the anxiety... |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #96 |
106. For lack of a purely scientific response to this |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #96 |
107. Here's an APA report containing some assessment of the effects |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
128. Upon examining, I say again: correlation IS NOT causation. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. I've seen otherwise. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. I agree, and |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. THANK you. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. ...but it *can indeed* trigger psychotic reactions. it's rare. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. There's no concrete evidence it CAUSES psychotic reactions. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. a cause is not a trigger and I said trigger. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. "already predisposed to certain psychiatric disorders" says it all. |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
67. That was my guess too! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 06:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
85. Pot can aggravate paranoia. Bigtime. So, it can't cause it |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
93. As they said, high strength |
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No Exit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-11-06 09:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
141. Marijuana laced with PCP (angel dust) can definitely create this reaction |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. Reefer Madness! |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. "cannabis-induced psychotic mental state" |
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Delphinus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. That stuff had to have been laced with something! |
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twaddler01 (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
34. The problem with un-regulated drugs |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
59. Sounds about right. n/t |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
108. Uh... the stuff was home grown... |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. The Title Is Misleading |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. It's grammatical. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. Is a boy named Laurie a grammatical error? |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
64. appears to be british |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
66. laurie is used |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. angel dust laced doobie? |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. The only time I get a psychosis when I toke is when I think of Bush |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. ...now! |
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skids (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. PTSD used as a scapegoat for anti-weed initiatives. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
45. Yeah, funny this bullshit comes out a month before NV votes to legalize. |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. I have NEVER seen anyone go apeshit after smoking pot |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. one can get so paranoid one can hide under a bed.... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
47. Usually, the person is paranoid BEFORE smoking. |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 08:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
71. I think that I got severe anxiety and scary hallucinations |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 11:53 AM Response to Reply #71 |
97. One would think I'd have gone crazy, then... |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 09:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
75. O that's right. I forgot about the Noids. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. I have |
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jahyarain (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. that's a lie |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. "iraq war veteran" - enough said |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
49. As it causes introspection, perhaps his mind snapped... |
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silverweb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
16. Bullshit. |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
17. 10 year sentence |
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INDIA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. I'm 23 years old. |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
90. that's what my generation thought |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm calling BS. Pot would have made him too lazy to get up |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
50. "It's the great demotivator." Actually, not accurate. |
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Bonescrat (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. They are both amotivational for me.... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I won't argue that it can't demotivate SOME people. |
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Bonescrat (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Usually I quite active... Not terribly predisposed to laziness... nt |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 08:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
72. And WHICH ONE causes psychosis and violence???? |
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NOLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
21. Bullshit |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
23. This is major BULL SHIT. |
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eeyore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
24. I've seen people freak out from smoking pot before... |
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twaddler01 (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Either she is sensitive...VERY sensitive |
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Bonescrat (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
58. And she won't be doing that again. nt |
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hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
25. To test the effects of cannabis on the rats' brains... |
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twaddler01 (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
28. Well, it probably just triggered something |
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DemInDistress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
32. how much stronger could it have been? BC Bud is potent |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Exactamundo. (eom) |
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Union Thug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
65. The most potent pot comes on like a narcotic..and it's |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #32 |
98. I smoked about an ounce of BC Bud in under two weeks... |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
36. Did William Randolph Hearst rise from the grave to write this bullshit? |
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jus_the_facts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 06:02 AM Response to Reply #36 |
84. LOL....Hearst's Ghost writes again....asprin-induced ingrown toenails..... |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
37. I don't think so... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
38. Blame the war, not the pot. n/t |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
40. Utter nonsense |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
42. Laurie swore he'd kill the 10,000th guy who made fun of his name. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
68. hey, that was fun! |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. now people here aren't even naming girls Laurie.What the hell?There |
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k8conant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 11:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
78. We're talking British here, not American... |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
43. What a bunch of BULLSHIT!!!! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
46. And gee, the Torygraph never slants right, does it? |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. Let's suppose for a minute that pot does cause bad reactions |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
55. I once got hallucinations and several times got severe anxiety on pot |
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hollowdweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
61. Sounds like some really good smoke! Kickass! |
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Rockstone (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
62. How horrible for the families |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
99. Agreed, I feel bad for the families. |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
74. Not likely.However, lot's of vets have had trouble with violent outbursts |
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MsKandice01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
76. Psychosis? With HOME GROWN weed? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
77. Pass some of that crazy shit over here! |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
81. people do crazier things blind-drunk. |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
83. But Check out what the Judge said about his excuse: |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #83 |
101. The judge SHOULD have some doubts! |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #101 |
110. Speaking from my own experience |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
86. A true story, Vietnam 1968 |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Interesting. |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #88 |
95. Interesting find. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:13 PM Response to Reply #95 |
103. Hey, where'd you find that? It's interesting, indeed. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #95 |
109. I remember those pictures! |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 01:30 PM Response to Reply #95 |
111. Where can I get some THC spray? |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 01:30 PM Response to Reply #88 |
112. Well, none of the people you've seen on pot were experiencing |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #112 |
130. Thanks for the info. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #86 |
102. Yeah, once he was away from the explosions and death. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #102 |
113. My bet is on the combination. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
87. To quote GWAR: |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
91. Um |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
104. Oh, you and your reasonable fact-based analysis! |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #104 |
122. lol |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
119. Bull shit |
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dogfacedboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
123. In 30 years of toking/being around tokers... |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
133. complete and utter bullshit |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
135. Sure he was. |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-11-06 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
139. PU! I smell bullshit. |
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FarrenH (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-11-06 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
140. Some fundamental misunderstandings in this thread |
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