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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:10 PM
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Daschle Testifies at Rep. Janklow's Trial
snip........

The defense called Daschle to bolster its contention that Janklow, a diabetic, had not eaten the day he collided with a motorcyclist. The defense contends a diabetic reaction caused Janklow to miss a stop sign before the deadly Aug. 16 crash.

Daschle said he was on stage with Janklow for about an hour at a Korean War veterans event the day of the crash.

``I didn't see him eat'' or drink anything, Daschle said in his testimony, which lasted less than five minutes.

The senator added that he and Janklow -- the state's lone representative in the House -- are friends. ``I think he's a very truthful person,'' Daschle said of the Republican.

more..........

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Janklow-Trial.html
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:12 PM
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1. One thing comes to mind about Daschle sticking up for Janklow..
:puke:
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:14 PM
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2. Well, if it's true, it's true.
Daschle can't help that and he should answer truthfully.

However, there are things he can help and doesn't, like letting the Republicans ram their bills through Congress. That is what I object to.

I don't object to him telling the truth.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:17 PM
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5. exactly
it's amazing how people think (or don't). What is he supposed to do, lie because he's a Republican?
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:06 AM
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32. Bingo!
Beside, why kick a guy when he's down. When the opposition is shooting themselves in the foot - step back!

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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:15 PM
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3. That's our good old leader
Tom Pink TuTu Daschle - supporting those good old repukes again and again and again. When is this guy just going to go away and live on his wife's lobbying money. What a loser.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:39 PM
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12. it's the job of the minority leader to committ perjury?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:16 PM
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4. So Daschle attests that Janklow hadn't eaten within an hour
that they were together.... What the hell difference does that make? Even the most unstable diabetic is not eating every hour of the day?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:30 PM
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11. DASHCLE Was *Subpoenaed* - How Come DELAY Got Off?
Tom "DePlane-DePlane" DELAY got out of being subpoenaed in the Texas redistricting case on the grounds that a HIGH OFFICIAL (barf) like HIM could not be subpoenaed except to provide UNIQUE information that ONLY he could provide. Since DePlane was HEAVILY involved in the ramming of the redistricting, his info was HIGHLY relevant and, indeed, UNIQUE. This subpoena of DASHCLE was just show-biz, monkeying with him. It's b.s. for his info to have have any relevance, ONE HOUR out of the day sez nuttin. While DASHCLE's info is nothing, they are using his status as "character reference".
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:09 AM
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33. He's only off temporarily
They just weren't at the right point in the trial.

You can't force a government official to testify that he essentially colluded to take away your rights until you first establish that your rights WERE taken away. (I'm paraphrasing terribly)

The court just said "you can't call him until you first make that showing".

If we CAN'T make that showing, we don't have a case anyway. If we CAN he'll have to show up and face the music.

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:41 PM
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13. not much difference
this diabetes defense is desperation.
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:23 PM
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6. Wow, Daschle and Janklow on trial together!
Makes me proud to be a South Dakotan. Even if Janklow WAS suffering from a health problem, he should have known that his NUMEROUS HEALTH PROBLEMS and HISTORY OF WRECKLESS DRIVING AND RAPE make him a menace. It's his RESPONSIBILITY to do whatever he needs to do to prevent his feeble conservative body from flaking out behind the wheel.

As for Tom Daschle... well, he ought to be Joe Lieberman's running mate.


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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:28 PM
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9. It's not what you are or what you know,...
,...or how noble you have been or how talent or educated you are, or what you are truly made up of as a human being,...

it's who you know and/or what family you were born into and/or whether you gave up you "independence" to stick with a crowd/party,...

THAT IS AMERICAN JUSTICE!!!
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:03 AM
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31. A real winning combination
Lieberman/Daschle -- "We'll change the tone of Washington -- by putting you to sleep"

or "We're a different type of fighter -- the wussy kind!"



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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:26 PM
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7. I know Daschle takes a lot of shit here, but...
When you get called to testify, you do it. You take the stand and answer the questions truthfully. What do you propose he do? Refuse to testify and plead the 5th? How exactly would that work, and why should he do it?
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:27 PM
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8. Ever hear the term "friendly witness"?
Daschle could just do what most school officials do and say, "I don't recall."
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:15 PM
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17. That would be lying
If he does recall, and says that he doesn't then that would be perjury. Daschle hasn't done anything wrong here.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:27 PM
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25. He did wrong when he said that the lying bastard
was "pretty truthful."
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:32 PM
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27. How do you know?
Are you good friends with Janklow? Probably not. Daschle knows him well and I guess he hasn't had any experiences of Janklow lying to him.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:11 AM
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34. How do YOU know Daschle knows him well?
All I know is what I read in the papers, and even the Republican owned media reports that this man has been a terror on the road and lied out of his ass to escape responsibility every time!
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:11 AM
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35. And "pretty truthful"
Isn't the same thing as "truthfull".


The guy was popular in a state that Daschle has to run in next year. A state that supported Bush by solid double digits. And he could have a real opponent (I rate it as a 75/25 "Hold").

No point in looking like the bad guy. No need to kick him when he's down... he's "going down" with or without Daschle.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:30 PM
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10. I once spent an entire hour
with someone that didn't eat or drink and they made it all the way home without killing a single motorcyclist. If he goes to jail I hope his cellmate is one the "Angels" they just busted. Now THAT would be justice.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:58 PM
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15. Amazing, isn't it?
I managed to make it all the way through my entire life without killing one motorcycle driver! Man, do I ever feel lucky!
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:44 PM
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14. Janklow
is a very truthful person!?
He could have left that part out.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:10 PM
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16. as a diabetic myself
once my blood sugar starts dropping, it is a very horrible feeling and I imagine that I would slow down quickly and have to pull over. It is the worst feeling in the world. And if his blood sugar dropped so low that he had a car accident, why did he not need immediate treatment to raise it?
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:16 PM
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19. Me too.
Can't imagine thinking "Oh, I'm 'Bonking'...Nee to whip this pig-iron as fast as it can go and maybe I can get home to dinner before I pass out..."

ESPECIALLY if I have somebody in the car with me!

Why didn't he eat a few glucose tabs? he DID have glucose tabs, didn't he? Almost every Diabetic I know has "combat tabs" handy...

Of course, if your diabetes was diagnosed by your attorney after you killed somebody because you were breaking half the traffic laws in the state and a coupla laws of physics...
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:24 PM
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20. he showed no signs after the accident.
If he had low blood sugar his condition would have continued to get worse as long as he didn't eat anything. According to the testimony of an officer on the scene, he showed no signs of low blood sugar after the accident. Is he claiming that his false story about swerving to avoid another car was a result of low blood sugar as well? Sounds as if old Janklow is throwing out alibis and hoping one will "stick".
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:10 PM
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23. Janklow Told The Coroner At The Scene He Was Fine
The Coroner/Medical Examiner came to the scene and specifically asked Janklow about his diabetes (the guy knew he was diabetic) and whether he had any problems because of that. Janklow said no. The coroner/medical examiner testified to this.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:16 PM
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18. Daschle did the right thing
I have no problem with him telling the truth after having sworn to do just that.

I'm a bit perturbed over Daschle's choice of friends, but this warrants no criticism. Let the jury decide if Janklow was guilty
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:32 PM
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21. The difference between the Left & the Right
Daschle told the truth and didn't try to ruin another man's life out of party loyalty.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:39 PM
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22. Later, Janklow will run against Daschle and beat him in SD.
GOP "Thanks" for defending him.
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pasadenaboy Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:25 PM
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24. Daschle thinks every Republican
is "very truthful" and a "friend"

He's the next Zell.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:31 PM
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26. I don't think Daschle will be around for long!
But what do I know? Nader said it was hard to tell the difference between a repuke & a dem and sometimes I think he may be right.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:19 AM
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28. Daschle Wasn't Always Like This
not until they sent him the ANTHRAX.

They killed Carnahan and Wellstone and they tried to kill him.
It is the night of the long knives.
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:14 AM
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36. Sure he was
Daschle was very firendly with Republicans in his state (he HAD to be since he needed a big chunk of them to vote for him) and had a very... um... "moderate" voting record prior to taking the leadership (voting FOR Reagan's big cuts).

But once you assume the leadership, you have an obligation to represent the middle of your party... which was well to his left (AND he saw what they did with impeachment).

This is just Daschle returning to form for his re-election.

But you're right. We shouldn't have to have him as the head of the party while he reinvents himself to win a conservative state. It screws the rest of the nation.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 01:40 AM
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29. And this defense absolves him how?
Eating properly is just as vital to controlling diabetes as taking insulin. Janklow's old enough and smart enough to know that. I have two words for him--"personal responsibility."


rocknation
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:02 AM
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30. Kick!
:kick: and :kick: again!!!
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