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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 04:50 PM
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BREAKING: BOXER, DODD FILE 11TH HOUR EMERGENCY PAPER BALLOT LEGISLATION!
URL: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3531



BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: BOXER, DODD INTRODUCE 11th HOUR EMERGENCY PAPER BALLOT LEGISLATION IN SENATE!

Calls for 'Contingency Paper Ballots' in States, Counties this November to be Paid for Feds!


Co-Author of HAVA is Co-Sponsor of New Bill Answering Our Call for a 'LET AMERICA VOTE ACT', Makes Paper Ballots Optional to States Rather Than Mandated…But We'll Take it! -- Sources Say House Bill to Follow Soon!


Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) introduced emergency legislation to amend the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) this afternoon to offer funding to states and counties who make 'contingency paper ballots' available to voters to be used at the voter's option instead of electronic voting systems.

The so-called contingency paper ballots would be counted as normal ballots, as opposed to Provisional Ballots which must be vetted first to determine the integrity of the voter's registration. Provisional ballots are frequently counted only several days after Election Day, and often, not at all. The Senate legislation, however, does not spell that out specifically.

The BRAD BLOG has learned from a source currently working on similar legislation in the House, set to be filed there shortly, will include such specific language. Several Capitol Hill sources have confirmed that such legislation is currently in the works. We hope to have more details on the Houes version later today.

The inclusion of Dodd as a co-sponsor on this 11th hour legislation is no small coup, as he was one of the original co-sponsors of the HAVA legislation of 2002 which this bill would amend. Until now, he and the other bi-partisan co-sponsors of that original legislation have been reluctant to open HAVA to amendment.

The legislation, filed just after 4pm ET this afternoon, would refund voting jurisdictions who offer paper ballots as an option to voters, and requires such jurisdictions post "in a conspicuous manner at the polling place, a notice stating that contingency paper ballots are available at the polling place and that a voter may request to use such a ballot at the voter's discretion."

Election integrity advocacy groups and citizens alike have been rallying members of both the U.S. House and Senate to pass such legislation since The BRAD BLOG initially called for what we had called, the "LET AMERICA VOTE ACT" last Tuesday. The act we called for would mandate emergency paper ballots at all polling places this November in light of thousands of voters having been sent without being able to cast a vote in primary after primary election so far this year when new electronic voting machines either malfunctioned or were otherwise unavailable...

MUCH MORE, COMPLETE STORY, FULL TEXT OF LEGISLATION:
URL: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3531

---
Brad Friedman
THE BRAD BLOG - The uprising continues...
http://www.BradBlog.com
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http://www.VelvetRevolution.us

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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 04:53 PM
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1. Excellent!
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 04:55 PM
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2. Where are we gonna get the votes to pass this?
Repukes aren't gonna wanna pass this. For quite a few of them paper ballots = they lose
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:04 PM
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9. We'll get them everywhere!

I've included a link in the full story, to let you contact your Congress Members.

Speculation: With Dodd on board, that *may* mean he's able to bring McConnell on board, as he was one of the original HAVA sponsors, and the 4 of the original sponsors had been marching in lock-step until now. So we'll see.

Sources: The House bill *may* come with bi-partisan co-sponsorship. We shall see!

Read the full story, however, to see that Republicans have also been calling for this sort of measure all around the country! Even they may see the writing on the wall, so let's all try to encourage the honest ones to do the right thing, eh?

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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 04:55 PM
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3. To the Greatest page with you
:dem:

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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 04:55 PM
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4. Sweet, I hope this happens
I've been dreading going to my polling place in November knowing I'll be voting on the vapor not paper machines for the first time in this incredibly important election.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 04:56 PM
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5. Those stupid, stupid repukes.
They act like Democratic politicians don't know how to rig the electronic voting equipment. Rumor has it that some crazy liberals have plans to introduce a virus to have JFK win in several pivotal states.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 04:57 PM
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6. Wow! I think we can safely say the gloves are off.
This week is 180 degrees different from last week. I actually feel hopeful for a change.
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 04:58 PM
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7. wow, what a 180 for Dodd -
former (?) advocate of paperless DRE's!!!!:wow:

and Kudos to the Bradblog!! :patriot:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:03 PM
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8. yes indeed
perhaps he finally read something important like RFK Jr's piece in Rollingstone that scared the shit out of him?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:37 AM
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51. yeah, like when his time comes he'll LOSE simply by vote hopping
(think the dem representatives will catch on when there are no more dem representatives in the house or senate? will they get the freakin picture THEN??? or will they think: "humm...i guess the entire country has gone red"?)
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:05 PM
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10. kick and rec!
:kick:
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:08 PM
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11. Best news I've heard in a LOOONG time. n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:18 PM
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12. Shouldn't this have been done in, like, Nov-Dec, of 2000? Or in Jan 2001?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:30 PM
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15. We were fighting paper then
In Florida, there were more errors in the paper punch ballots and the argument was that the richer white precincts had DRE's and less errors. So, HAVA allocated bunches of money for DRE's and then we just ended up with a whole new batch of errors.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:37 PM
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16. Sorry. That was propagandistic crap.
The punch cards were working fine, as they had for years. Vote counters knew exactly how to count them.

It was sheer distraction, with the purpose of forcing states to buy corrupt voting machines to ensure Republican majorities forever, and I am still stunned that anyone fell for it.

It was also meant to distract from the deliberately corrupt ballots, and other crimes committed by Katherine Harris and her dear friends.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:43 PM
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17. The machines didn't clog?
Ballots weren't marked erroneously because of faulty punch machines? That stats that showed higher fail rates in punch card districts were wrong? The punch card professional lied in court?

:shrug:

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 02:07 PM
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75. They passed the Help America Vote Act in 2002
Edited on Wed Sep-27-06 02:07 PM by Freddie Stubbs
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:28 PM
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13. Great news to come back to after two days cut off from info
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 05:39 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
:bounce:

It's a hell of a start.

Recommended

on edit: looking for more. At the moment the House is Recessed and the Senate is naming post offices...

Anybody watch today?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:30 PM
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14. In other words, HAVA is a disaster.
Like every other piece of legislation from this rotten, corrupt-to-the-core Republican Congress.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:50 PM
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18. Well, that's nice
Too bad it will be killed immediately by the Republicans who control the Senate.
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:59 PM
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19. Cynical much? :-)

Don't be so sure. We're beginning to hear bi-partisan calls for this from folks around the country. Read my full article for just some of those details.

As well, the Senate R's may want to cover their ass here as well as they can also see the writing on the wall. See my earlier comment above for other thoughts about R's coming on board here.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:00 PM
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28. Extremely
Cynical, pessimistic, depressed.

I really hope I'm wrong. If I am, I'll be the first to celebrate.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:51 AM
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54. ah, david...you aren't the only one who feels like that
i was thinking--just a couple days ago--how much happier we would have been without this freak in the white house; how all our lives would have been different & better and that he has been there since my daughter was in junior high--now she's in collage.

and how i've been politically obsessive, angry & preoccupied with this crap instead of giving 100% to my family. too bad--there is all this time that can't be replaced.

and i know i'm not alone. and neither are you.

and yet we keep fighting. we have to.

sorry--didn't mean to hijack here, just wanted to offer a :hug:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 05:50 AM
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60. If Bush never existed, we wouldn't realize how lucky we are
Classic sci-fi dilemma. If the past changes, those that live after the change have no awareness of the alternative time-line. We'd be sitting here talking about how President Gore was dealing with the genocide in Darfur, only vaguely aware that he stopped an attempted terrorist attack right after he was sworn in. The 20 hijackers would be in their first round of appeals, but most Americans, hearing of the plans they had, would have dismissed the attacks as "far-fetched".

"Naw,", they'd say, "it wouldn't have worked! They'd been caught before they got to the gates. I don't know why President Gore keeps acting like he broke up some big thing. Beside, even if the planes HAD his, they woulda just bounced off. Those building are designed for that, ya know!"

Oh, well.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 07:30 AM
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65. Good comments, orleans
Especially the part about losing irretrievable time.

My wife has said that about herself -- that she's tired of letting despair over what happened in 2000 and since then spoil so much of her life.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:46 AM
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53. This could really use some media exposure...
of course, Lou Dobbs comes to mind. Maybe some moderate right-wing pundits can stir up stories about the possibility of Dems introducing the Diebold virus to sway elections their way. A little reverse-psychology could go a long way to get the Republican senators' attention.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 02:13 PM
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77. Considering that Congress will be in recess after Friday, and
that they will be spending most of that time time debating the the detainee interrogation bill, how likely do you think it is that committe hearings will be heald and a floor vote scheduled before the November elections?

This isn't a cynical question, just a realistic one.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:08 PM
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79. If Republicans vote against this they are going to stand out like
an exploding volcano in the U.S. - for all of our history to come.

If they don't support paperby State, they will document their support and approval for stealing votes and placing obstacles to voting through Republican owned hardware, software, file transfers, counting, technicians, fixers, apportioning and the Republican networks who coordinate their exit polling (network owned) with the manipulated votes and call it for Republicans.

Many people are finally wise. Are Republicans ready to go in to the history books as stealing and faciliating the theft our our most precious right?
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:36 PM
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20. This is great news Brad! ... You deserve the DU Medal of Freedom!
:dem::toast::bounce::bounce::headbang::smoke::smoke::yourock::smoke::smoke::headbang::bounce::bounce::toast::kick:

But since we do not yet have one, you can have the above mom cat Medal of Freedom and Justice along with a lifetime supply of purrs! :hug:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:09 PM
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21. I just sent a copy of the legislation to Kennedy, Kerry and my rep!
Hope that it is amended soon to make it mandatory to offer paper ballots as an option everywhere, but this is a great start.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:28 PM
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22. YAY!
:woohoo:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:43 PM
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23. Terrific news! Thanks for all your hard work, Brad! nt
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:48 PM
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24. K&R! Glad to see BB back kickin butt!
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:53 PM
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25. AMAZING!!! n/t
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:58 PM
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26. Fantastic news! I love this woman!
:woohoo:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:59 PM
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27. "In the corner stood a lone Boxer..." nm
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:01 PM
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29. Go, Barbara!
That's my Senator!

:woohoo:
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:28 PM
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80. mine as well - One out of three
(2 senators, 1 rep) is crap representation though.

Thank you Barbara! calling her now!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:02 PM
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30. Yes!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:09 PM
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31. THEY KNOW!!!! They know....we were a major player in that...DU etc.
That's why they know. K&R

But there is much more to be revealed.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:11 PM
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32. Bless you, Barbara.
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 08:11 PM by Vidar
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:13 PM
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33. They should have been doing this 6 years ago but I'll take it!!!
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:15 PM
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35. KnR, take the hill, take that HILL
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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:14 PM
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34. I'm going to call my Senator Dodd and thank him.
And then I'm going to ask him again to filibuster the torture bill. Or place a secret hold, if there's not enough support for a filibuster.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:15 PM
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36. I love you Barbara! Your such a sweetheart!
:patriot:

:loveya:
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:37 PM
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37. Nice work, Brad. Take a fifteen minute break.
:D

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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:59 AM
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55. Thanks Wilms! I needed that. Break Over!

More now from NYTimes on this, including Feingold joins with Boxer and Dodd!

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3535
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:06 PM
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38. Kick (nt)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:09 PM
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39. Thanks, Brad!
What a wonderful development. It seems that some people finally realize it's a problem for BOTH sides of the aisle.

:bounce:
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belab13 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:10 PM
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40. best news I've heard for a while! thank you senators.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:41 PM
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41. SUPERB! nt
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:47 PM
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42. Thanks for the good news, Brad.
Yes, I am surprised by Dodd coming on board.

The story I heard was that the Dems didn't want to open up HAVA because they feared the repugs would foul up our voting system even more.

But I don't see how that is possible.

Oh.....to have paper ballots! How can the repugs stand up in front of their constituents and say that voting on a paper ballot is anti-democratic? Or that it is difficult to count?

People are so much more educated about voting now...thanks to folks like Brad, RFK, Jr. and other other voting groups.

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:01 PM
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43. Email your legislators! Democrat.com link here:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 11:07 PM
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46. Wow! You got that up fast! ... Thanks hissyspit! ... This is great!
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:06 PM
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44. 11th hour indeed.
Hadn't heard a lot from those particular elected folks speaking out on this issue heretofore, the way other bolder and less-prominent pols have.

Am I that selective a reader? Maybe.

Doesn't any "big" issue pounced upon by those in office just 5 or 6 weeks before an election just smack of nerves and pandering?

It sure does to me...what am I missing? :shrug:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 11:20 PM
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47. I hear your suspicion, however, I think that in this case, the timing is
the result of a series of falling dominoes that has given support to this iniative for paper ballots now, The fact that so many train wrecks have piled up now, and the media attention to DRE failures, plus the work of Brad to push this now has just added up to the critical mass needed at this time to push this forward. The band wagon needs all the help it can get, even last minute help.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 11:25 PM
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48. Thanks mom cat,
I'm not absolutely current on the vaccilations of voter reform efforts and players...IOW what is necessarily "good" or "bad" news. Your say-so, along with the outpouring of responses to the OP, certainly convince me.
Fingers firmly X'ed, though I'm typing even slower now.
:toast:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:34 PM
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73. Exactly MOM CAT, the primary season was filled with train wrecks
This stirs up crap at home for the Repub congress critter, Brad is right, repubs have gotten pressure from thier home districts due to the Primariy train wrecks WE helped cover, DU & BRad BLog, perfect together.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 06:53 AM
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62. It sure makes me a bit unnerved that our elect.
officials have taken the innitiative to move, towards what is a first step, at the last minute. I wonder why?
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:07 PM
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45. It doesn't sound to me like any voter
can go into their polling place and get a paper ballot, which is what I want to do. I am reading it that either your jurisdiction has to agree to make it available or there has to be a problem at your polls for you to get a paper ballot.

Am I wrong? My precinct will NEVER agree to offering paper ballots unless it is mandated that they have to give a paper ballot to any and all voters that request it. We are in GA, in a Republican area, and have Diebold machines. Not a chance they will voluntarily give me a paper ballot.

This is way too late to be starting this. There has been 6 years to get it done and you know the Repugs will fight it all the way.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 11:28 PM
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49. I was hoping that it would be manditory that paper would be manditory
period. This is a lot weaker than I like by a long shot, but it gives a platform for more jurisdictions to be pressured into at least offering paper, and perhaps a way to build on stronger legislation when we take back Congress. I am sorry for you there in Georgia and other repuke strongholds. It will take a lot to break the stranglehole the Diebold/Repukes have on areas like yours. I know that this will not do the trick for you there yet. You must feel like screaming all the time!
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 07:01 AM
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63. It's nightmare in suburban Atlanta
Yes, I am screaming all the time, but of course never in public. You dare not speak out here. We are in an upscale Atlanta suburb and are a normal intelligent retired couple. Everyone knows we are Democrats, however, and we are looked at as communists, traitors, and anti-American. And all we do is believe Iraq is a tragedy, Bush a liar, and that the Constitution should be upheld. :grr:
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:01 AM
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50. Way to go Barbara!
Great news.

Sonia
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:44 AM
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52. Don't Forget to send this to your county's BALLOT PRINTERS !!
Call your County Clerk/Auditor's Office first thing in the morning and get the name and address of the company that prints your county's absentee ballots. They stand to profit enormously from this should it pass. Send them this bill and highlight the part where HAVA will reimburse the county for actual costs or seventy-five cents per ballot. Ballot printers have the ear of the County Clerks/Boards of Elections and undoubtedly easy access to lobby congress.
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 02:03 AM
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56. HERE'S THE ONLINE ACTION LINK! CLICK IT NOW PLEASE!

CLICK HERE TO SEND YOUR EMAIL URGING CONGRESS TO PASS THIS NOW!

http://tinyurl.com/ojd4r

...And pass it on, please! Thanks!
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:33 AM
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69. Here's another link from Barbara Boxer's PAC to contact your congressfolk

http://ga4.org/campaign/confidence_in_voting/

I added a final paragraph to mine at the end to help address the urgency of getting this done immediately. Doug Jones, who I talked to a couple of weeks ago while visiting Iowa, said that such changes now are going to be very difficult to achieve with a lot of the deadlines for training, printing of ballots, etc. either about to pass or having passed already. You might want to do the same to help get it on your congress critters' radar screen. The Senate needs to have voted this in by Friday I think to get this to work...

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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 12:53 PM
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85. Done!! Thanks. n/t
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 04:36 AM
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57. Oh right ! Perhaps we still have a chance at our votes being counted
and not stolen or thrown out by hacked machines.

:kick:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 05:09 AM
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58. fanTAStic!
Good work, guys!. . Maybe they all got buckets of faxes with the provisional bill on it? Maybe it looked good to them?
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 05:45 AM
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59. Kicking
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 06:35 AM
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61. This is a start, but
as long as there is one electronic machine that can be hacked or programmed in any way to alter the vote, paper ballots should be mandatory. I thank the Senators for starting the ball rolling.
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HomerRamone Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:29 AM
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68. This is WORSE than a start.
People STILL don't get it. All it takes is ONE machine to change the winner. This will only enhance the legitimacy of potentially fraudulent results...
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 07:25 AM
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64. KICK !!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:04 AM
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66. a LOT of time has been wasted...better late than never. n/t
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:25 AM
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67. The Senate is cheduled to recess on Friday
Does anyone think this will even get a committee hearing by then?
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:41 PM
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70. A day late and a dollar short
Make that 700 days late and a few million dollars short.

Newsprism
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:21 PM
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72. Yeah who cares about future elections?
:eyes:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:16 PM
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71. I like the trap the Dems have set for the RW.........
if they vote FOR this, they help more people to vote and get counted, and that works in favor of Dems.

If they vote AGAINST the legislation, they are damaged goods in Nov.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:36 PM
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74. kestrel91316 ,gets it.. The timing is right, considering
the election is what, 46 days out..........

and this issue is ours. Nomatter how you spell it out, kestrel91316 is right. I agree 100%.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 02:09 PM
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76. Except that no vote will be taken on this, as
Congress will be in recess after this week.
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 01:04 PM
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86. That's true, if it gets to a vote.
I hope it makes it to the floor. Otherwise the GOP and the Maryland Dems will be able to dodge that bullet.
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lrsmith1 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:03 PM
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78. I thought the paper ballots were to confusing that made people
mark the incorrect person. What do you think is the best voting system? One that would be as stupid proof as possible
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:47 PM
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81. They should add to that, criminal penalties for those who don't comply.
CA's former SoS, Kevin Shelley, tried to educate voters about their right to use a paper ballot if they felt uncomfortable
about using a DRE. Despite the law, places like Riverside County, did not provide paper ballots as required.
And in 2006, Riverside violated paper ballot voters' rights again, this time even more outrageously.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2996
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:48 PM
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82. So many bills....
I just received email from Senator Feinstein who is a cosponsor of the "Voting Integrity and Verification Act of 2005" (S. 330), which would
require electronic voting machines to produce individual, voter verifiable
permanent paper records for every vote cast, so that voters can check the
accuracy of their ballots and officials can conduct a manual audit or
recount should either one be necessary.

She states: "Currently, this legislation is under review in the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration. As a member of this Committee, please be assured that I will keep your concerns in mind as the Senate reviews this legislation and other efforts to ensure the legitimacy of the electoral process."
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:51 PM
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83. Thank you, Brad K & R n/t
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:10 PM
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84. ty for the pm mom cat...
:patriot: k&r'd
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