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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 01:19 AM
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WP/Bloomberg: Negroponte: Supreme Ct. Ruling Has Curtailed Interrogations
Negroponte: Ruling Has Curtailed Interrogations
Bloomberg News
Monday, September 18, 2006; Page A07

National Intelligence Director John D. Negroponte suggested that interrogations of suspected terrorists have been curtailed because of legal concerns raised by a U.S. Supreme Court ruling on the treatment of enemy combatants.

Negroponte, interviewed on "Fox News Sunday," declined to provide examples of CIA operatives holding back on questioning terrorism suspects because of the court's ruling in June that detainees merit the protections of the Geneva Conventions.

"There's been precious little activity of that kind for a number of months now," he said. Detainees "may be questioned, but using the kind of aggressive techniques, the tough techniques that the president was referring to the other day, may be kind of problematic because of the uncertainty introduced."

Negroponte defended President Bush's proposal for handling detainee interrogations and trials. It is being opposed by three key Senate Republicans who are pushing legislation that would give more legal protections to suspected terrorists than the administration wants....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/17/AR2006091700486.html
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 01:37 AM
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1. You know there are several ways you can LEGALLY interrogate
a "Prisoner" and/or "alleged terrorist" and still follow the guidelines of The Geneva Conventions.

These evil Neo-Conservatives not only insult our intelligence, but they are arrogant and shameless. :thumbsdown:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:03 AM
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9. Negroponte gets "SEXUALLY" excited at thoughts of Nuns Being Raped
And men having their Testicles crushed.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 01:48 AM
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2. Eeeeww...like his word is good enough for us.
:puke:

Lying, treasonous, rat bastard!
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 01:53 AM
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3. No, it has curtailed torture
This is so Rovian. Aggressive techniques = torture. Tough techniques = torture. Uncertainty = Bush junta's desire for legislation that provides retroactive cover for their crimes. And hurry it up too, before Democrats get control of Congress.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:04 AM
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4. good! you lawbreaking jackasses
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:05 AM
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5. Damned activist liberal judges, how dare they...
...oh, wait, this is the SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES we're talking about. We'll, I guess it makes sense. If Bush can indirectly call into question during a live televised speech the patriotism of Congressional Republicans for their resistance to his attempts to legalize post facto his illegal activities, then I guess it's ok to do the same to US Supreme Court justices.

:banghead: Jesus Christ on a pogostick this is nuts...
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 05:16 AM
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6. It's amazing...
for fifty years our intelligence agencies have been able to interrogate prisoners and successfully get info without violating the Geneva Convention.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 05:31 AM
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7. But 9/11 changed everything...
Didn't you get the memo? :shrug:
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 05:48 AM
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8. I'm not sure
I got a memo that was refering to "Gay Arab Terrrorists threatening to blow up points of strategic interest in Indiana and Nebraska, while at the same time attempting to get married." Was that the memo to which you refer, or is there another one?
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 08:26 AM
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14. Tell me what you think happened on 9/11.
It's very clear that the U.S. government, under the control of Vice
President Richard Cheney, had scheduled five conflicting war games
for the morning of Sept. 11, which moved a substantial number of
the U.S. fighter response forces out of the region so that they could
not respond. The so-called hijackers were, in effect, agents working
for the U.S. government. Al Qaeda had been co-opted to perpetrate the
attack, which then gave the U.S. government the pretext for all the
military adventurism and occupation that has taken place since.

http://www.eugeneweekly.com/2005/05/26/news.html#news1

Neither Negroponte nor Hayden would say publicly how many people have been
monitored. Nor wood they offer details on attacks that have been averted.

Hayden called the process used to determine whether someone is linked to al-Qaida
"a science" not an art and asserted that the information that is subsequently
revealed is handled lawfully. Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., told him his answer wasn't
good enough.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/02/02/national/w150546S30.DTL
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:42 AM
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10. Yeah, right. Because Negroponte has such a high regard for the law.
Edited on Mon Sep-18-06 06:43 AM by Solly Mack
Sure. You betcha. AH-Boland Amendment-choo. Ah-DeathSquads-choo. Ah-IranContra-choo.

Opps...I got snot everywhere. Allergic to bullshit, I guess.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 05:01 PM
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18. LOL
Your post made me chuckle out loud in the middle of a conference. Hope the presenter doesn't think I was laughing at his proposal! But on a serious note, Negroponte is proven-scary (Honduras and Central America, the "American Holocaust"), and Hayden is bucking for proven-scary. Quite the crisis in U.S. life these days.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:50 AM
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19. Sorry! :) Just tell'em you were so happy with the proposal
it made you chuckle with glee :)

Unless that brings on a sneezing fit of your own :)

It really is a crisis and we don't even know the half of it yet. :(
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:53 AM
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11. Oh dear, they haven't been brutalizing people
Or so Negroponte says. But the seed is planted. Can the Terrible Lesson be far behind?

:nuke:

"Frankly we didn't learn about the attack beforehand because our interrogation techniques have been curbed."

Congress rewrites law clarifying Article 3 and pardoning past violations, torture becomes the norm, America breathes a sigh of relief...and I leave this country.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 07:24 AM
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12. Another butt boy for junior & his gang of thugs

"Negroponte defended President Bush's proposal for handling detainee interrogations and trials."
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 07:29 AM
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13. Fine
Maybe now they can actually get some useful information that will hold up in a court of law.

This isn't about getting intel, this about a bunch of sadomasochists who love to watch people suffer and die.

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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 04:04 PM
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15. And I am certain these law abiding patriots are following the decision
:eyes:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 04:29 PM
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16. Yeah they had to cut back from 24 hour interrogations to 16 hr
interrogations. Have to allow 8 hrs for sleeping. Also eating, pissing and shitting breaks.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 04:35 PM
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17. Why did they have to "curtail" anything?
Negroponte isn't admitting that his little inquisitors were doing anything they shouldn't have been doing, is he? "We didn't do nothin' illegal, and if we did we stopped, and we're surely not chomping at the bit to do it again, if we did it, which we didn't."

You know, I'd find this kind of excuse-making deficient in a reasonably bright six-year-old; I don't know that there's a deep enough level of contempt I can describe for a high government official doing it.
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