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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:17 AM
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AP: Previously unknown Bach work discovered
Previously unknown Bach work discovered

By Stephen Graham, Associated Press Writer | August 31, 2006

BERLIN --A previously unknown work by Johann Sebastian Bach has turned
up in a crate of 18th-century birthday cards removed from a German
library shortly before it was devastated by fire last year, researchers
said Wednesday.

Experts say the work for soprano and string or keyboard accompaniment,
composed for a German duke's birthday, is the first new music from the
renowned composer to surface in 30 years.

Researcher Michael Maul from the Bach Archiv foundation found the
composition, dated October 1713, in May in the eastern city of Weimar.
The Leipzig-based foundation said there was no doubt about the
authenticity of the handwritten, two-page score.

"It is no major composition but an occasional work in the form of an
exquisite and highly refined strophic aria, Bach's only contribution
to a musical genre popular in late 17th-century Germany," said
Christoph Wolff, the foundation's director and a professor at Harvard
University.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/entertainmen...
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flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:26 AM
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1. Bach's work was sold as scrap paper
He produced masterpieces weekly, but people at the time didn't realize it. When he died, his accumulated music was sold as scrap paper to places like butcher shops and orchards (to wrap tree trunks). Most of what he produced has been lost.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:28 AM
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2. I'm an organist
Not professional, just a hobby. I play quite a bit of Back's work and have no idea how he wrote the thousands of pieces he created. It sometimes takes me a year to learn one piece and to think he wrote it in probably a few days. Amazing mind.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:41 AM
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12. He wasn't the kind of composer who agonized over works
Like Mozart, Bach just sort of wrote down what he had in mind and went immediately on to the next piece. Beethoven, on the other hand, pondered and fretted over each and every little note of his works. Somehow, he still produced a lot of music.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:09 PM
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24. That's what people did in the year 250 BTV
(Before TV)
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:39 AM
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3. Ah Bach. nt
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:10 AM
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17. I love that M*A*S*H episode!
"Ahhhh, Bach" indeed! :D
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:18 PM
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23. "I'm partial to the fuge" LOL nt
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:42 AM
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4. I hear they're making a new movie bio of him.....
When they sent out the casting call, Arnold Schwartenegger showed up and announced, "I'll be Bach."

(wince)
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:02 AM
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6. I think things should be thrown at you for that pun...
;)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:34 AM
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9. maybe a boomerang?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:08 AM
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16. Right back atcha! LOL nt
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:39 AM
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11. ...
:spank:
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:14 PM
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25. please stop! I can't Handel it! (n/t)
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:49 PM
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27. this is a free country!
You can't TELEMANN what to do.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 07:37 PM
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29. you're just trying to Lully us into a false sense of security!
And hearing that the piece was found in a bunch of old mail hints that there could be other shocks to come. What next -- the "Scarlatti Letter"?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:50 AM
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5. "is the first new music from the
renowned composer to surface in 30 years."

He was on a "Lou Reed" type of sabbatical for a while, losing his creative juice for a bit. But he's back, baby! He's pissed off at todays music, he's ready to kick ass and take names!

Bach was quoted recently saying, "some say that a 300+ year old musician won't attract todays young people, I say bullocks to them! I will blow they away, BLOW THEM AWAY".

Mr. Bach, promptly smashed our cameras, hurled insults at us, then spat on an old lady.

It's been rumored years ago that both Sid Vicious and Johnny Rotten took their queues from Bach, the original bad boy of music.

Ancient transcripts of the time show that after a few of his recitals Bach would smash his organ to pieces, then insult various heads of state and royal families. He was a fan of the then trend of vomiting in public, rumored to be started by him.

From this reporters point of view, Bach is one nasty SOB, but he has spirit. Look out world, Bach is Back!
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:10 AM
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7. Kick for the old Master!
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 09:12 AM by Drum
:kick:
Bach's the bomb...his influence cannot be overstated (heck, even in Eddie Van Halen's scorching "Eruption"...seriously, give it a listen.) JSBach is the forebear of so much of what we hear and enjoy, it's just amazing. His output musically could only be approached by, mmm, Mozart (methinks) and his fertility was also familial...he fathered 20 children.
see also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Sebastian_Bach
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:15 AM
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8. Very cool.
I love stories like this.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:36 AM
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10. delightful! nothing better than bach!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:43 AM
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13. Amazing!! nt
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:03 AM
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14. Awesome. Can't wait to hear it
His point, counterpoint completely absorbs me like no other music in the world.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:07 AM
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15. Glad to hear that he's Bach in business.
:hide:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:19 AM
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21. tee hee
one hee
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:16 PM
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28. Hey, quit HAYDN -
- I see you peeking there! :)
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:17 AM
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18. I once had a professor say that if he were stranded on a desert island...
...and could only have the works of one composer with him, he would choose Bach, because he composed in just about every genre at the time, with perhaps the exception of opera, but that his oratorios could substitute for that genre.

It is no major composition but an occasional work in the form of an
exquisite and highly refined strophic aria, Bach's only contribution
to a musical genre popular in late 17th-century Germany


Yet one more genre Bach no doubt excelled at...
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:23 AM
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19. Musicologist Willy Apel wrote that all Western music development
...ceased after JS Bach; everything having been composed after him being merely replication (or something to that effect).

Sorry I don't have the exact quote...
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flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:33 PM
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31. he even did an opera, of sorts
Have you heard of the "Coffee Catata" (or something like that). It has a very silly plot involving a man's daughter who absolutely loved coffee. It was composed to be sung at - where else? - a coffee house!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:49 AM
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20. Thanks for the update, Eugene.
Bach.....the best. Every once in a while, they do find some new stuff from Bach.

I listen to his stuff all the time. Can't wait to hear this new piece.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:58 AM
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22. good news in a sad world
JS Bach was a genius, and yet was considered an "old-fashioned" composer during his lifetime. Glad to learn of another of his compositions has been found.

I always encourage my keyboard students to study his works. And I love playing them on the organ and harpsichord.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:35 PM
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26. "Maul said the foundation would exhibit the score once copyright issued
have been cleared up.""

somebody needs a new editor.
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rupturedlumbar Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 07:54 PM
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30. bone -players
...I am a semi pro bone player.  To me, Bach is just Bach.  I
was  fortunate enough though, to spend some time with Bill
Watrous, the Michael Jordan of bop trombone players, and most
of his 'listening" is done with the classical masters.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:37 PM
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32. Anyone else besides me thinking of P.D.Q. Bach?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:44 AM
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33. What's THAT?
FRENCH HORNS!!! :rofl:
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Cayden4k Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:52 AM
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34. Nice
This is most interesting news, I have always liked the works of Bach.
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