KUSA-TV: Karr DNA Not A Match

[VolcanoJen]

http://www.kusa.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=5647dd32-0abe-421a-01cb-49517318e6a4&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf

Also breaking on MSNBC.

Excerpt:

KUSA - 9NEWS has confirmed from two sources that the DNA taken from John Mark Karr does not match the DNA samples taken from the crime scene in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case.

Samples of Karr's saliva and hair were taken in Boulder after his arrival on Thursday. Those samples were tested over the weekend inside the Denver Police Department's Crime lab.

9NEWS has confirmed that Karr's DNA is ruled out as the foreign DNA left on JonBenet Ramsey's body when she was murdered in December 1996.

[Waya]

1. Imagine my shock!

:eyes:

[K8-EEE]

2. Well Looks Like He Got A Free First-Class Plane Trip!

Nice that he was able to completely dominate the news coverage during a week that was totally saturated with BushCo failures.

[truthisfreedom]

3. another distraction eliminated. back to the business of the impeachment.

[coalition_unwilling]

29. Impeach Cheney first! (n/t)

[Fridays Child]

4. All together, now...DUH!!!

[Avalux]

5. Doesn't surprise me - I expected as much.

Never did think he was the guy, and our stupid-ass media wasted days on him. The world is insane.

[zreosumgame]

51. now now, it was refreshing to have 23hrs a day of this

and 30 seconds at best on everything else!

[Turbineguy]

6. I guess

Karr just wanted a free first class ticket back to the US.

Anybody know what happened to Kato Cailin, Professional House Guest?

[tridim]

7. Great, so now the JBR fake news will stop in a few hours?

Yea right. They'll milk this for months.

[Imalittleteapot]

So, will MSM now spend 24/7 analyzing

why Karr lied?

[annabanana]

12. Yup. . Clear through the election season. . .

(Unless KKKarl wants something else to get out there.)

[ronnykmarshall]

16. Stand back ....... SHE'S GONNA BLOW!!!

[truebrit71]

18. ROFLMAO!!!!

:rofl:

[Sapphocrat]

20. ROFLMAO! ^5 n/t

[displacedtexan]

21. I am so stealing your pic!

That's hilarious! Hey, did you hear the Karr friend on the phone tell
Rita Cosby, "I can't hear you"???

That was hilarious, too!

[ronnykmarshall]

26. Go for it!

I love that pic .... pass it on!

I missed the Rita Cosby thing. She has such a soothing voice. Like sand paper.

[Midlodemocrat]

42. LOL

:rofl:

[Jacobin]

49. OMG

I'm still chuckling.

I love that.

Its perfect!!

[zreosumgame]

63. are you sure they are coming out the right hole?

[lakercub]

71. Outstanding

I hate Nancy Grace

[Rockholm]

107. He's a buddy of Neil Bush from their Thailand days.

So friggin' TRANSPARENT.

[ronnykmarshall]

8. How. Can. This. Be?

I. Am. So. Shocked.

[Subdivisions]

19. Shatner? Are you watching this, Bill? eom

[zreosumgame]

sorry, what is his connection? I must have missed it

[htuttle]

66. It. Was. The Delivery.

[zreosumgame]

68. ok, I get the joke now

just now sure how Bill would feel being connected to this story on any level, at random...

[VegasWolf]

9. Could'a knocked me over with a feather when I heard that! LOL! nt

[RamboLiberal]

10. Surprise, Surprise

:sarcasm: - Bet the damn cable nets, especially Nancy Grace will still spend the rest of the week talking about this non-case!

Karr sure is one looney tunes scary looking creep!

[kurth]

11. Okay, let him have his sex change and give him a Barbie doll

Case closed.

[MrPrax]

34. No...

He jumped bail on 5 child pr0n charges in Sonoma county -- he still has that to face that as well as whatever Thailand might have against this scumbag child molester.

[LostinVA]

38. Sonoma County dropped those charges already

They were misdemeanor charges too, btw. Not felony charges.

[MrPrax]

54. Would jumping bail?

be a felony thing? I don't know.

I haven't been paying attention I guess except the fact that I thought they were going to serve him an arrest on those charges if the CO murder thing was a bust...or at least that was the speculation, I heard last week, on some redneck radio segment where they had him already strung up and cold in ground.

Well...damn....they DO have to keep this guy on ice -- they are not trying hard enough!!...where are those law and order GrowOp busting State Attorneys when you need them. :grr:

[LostinVA]

67. Nope, no felony charges against him in CA

And, the misdemeanor charges were dropped this weekend.

Her would have gotten little or no jail time on the other charges, anyway.

[TheWraith]

40. Thailand doesn't have anything on him.

There were no charges, they were deporting him because they considered him "undesirable" (as a result of the charges in the US). And the charges in CA were dropped. The only trouble he's in now is possible counts related to his false confession.

[mountainvue]

45. If the DA's office was wise

they wouldn't even pursue that. I would think they would want the public to forget about Karr ASAP.

[kurth]

73. Most false confessions are coerced

It's very rare that a person making a false confession is charged with the crime of "making a false statement to the police".

[Quantess]

78. Sounds reasonable, but, Karr is not like "most" suspects.

He strikes me as an attention seeking drama queen. I could see him making a false confession to fulfill some mental issues he's got knotted up in his mind.

[TheWraith]

106. Some are, but there's a lot of crazy attention seekers out there

It's quite common in publicity-heavy cases to have one or more people come out of the woodwork and "confess" to the crime, even though they didn't do it. Likewise for people who claim to have been witnesses. That's why the police usually keep a few details of a crime secret, to have a way of determining who's a kook who watched all the TV coverage, and who might actually be involved in the case in some way. It's rare that the former actually gets prosecuted, but it is possible, and it might happen in a case where the DA wanted to save face.

[juajen]

47. I think we're talking Skippy here!

N/T

[keta11]

13. Let the bidding start for his biography!!!! n/t

[grytpype]

14. I guessed right.

I think it was all a trick to get a free flight back from Thailand.

[tanyev]

62. With prawns, pate and champagne.

Diabolical.

[zreosumgame]

65. my question is...

why the hell the Bolder PD (or was it the state of Colorado?) took the action of starting all this? I have not been foloowing closely so I am not 100% positive Karr got the ball rolling? Was it him or some ADA trying to close the books on this so he/she can run for gov or something and screwing it up, again?

[Subdivisions]

15. What a bunch of ...

goddamn idiots the MSM are. Total fuckups.

[MountainMamma]

17. One more off the streets

for a bit. Hope that they can keep him there. Don't they have some charges in CA that they can keep him out of circulation on for awhile? Thanks for this info Jen. My best to ya.

[darkism]

30. "Off the streets" ?

What exactly do we know this guy has done that would warrant keeping him "off the streets" ?

As far as we know right now, he's like Michael Jackson - a creepy weirdo, but not a criminal. There are questions to be answered, but until he's convicted of something, I wouldn't celebrate him being "off the streets."

[LostinVA]

35. No charges pending in CA anymore

They were only misdemeanors, anyway. I think the guy is skeevy,and a bit whacko, but there's ZERO legal reason to keep him off the streets. He should be released.

[endarkenment]

44. Keep him for what? being a frootloop?

It appears that hes not invovled in any actual crimes, other than perhaps imagining that he killed that poor girl.

[They Live]

53. Not a Frootloop.

Just a spook. He's served his purpose and can now disappear back into the crowd (probably overseas somewhere).

[Placebo]

22. How many times does the Karr family have to say it?

He wasn't in Colorado during Christmas 1996!

He's definitely a pervert and obviously has serious mental problems, but he sure didn't kill JonBenet.

Now the cable news channels will spend the next few days in a huge circle jerk about this news.

Is there anything they can't talk about again and again for days? Oh that's right, real news.

[endarkenment]

46. Yeah I found that rather convincing.

You would think that the boulder DA would check the alibi and that would be that. Last I heard you still can't be in two places at once. What a damn joke.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

23. I just won dinner and a movie!

I bet a friend who there would be no match and the media would be left with egg on their faces.

I won! :bounce:

[MikeyJones]

24. While I certainly hope they find the killer.....

is there anything else the corporate media can do to divert our attention away from the things that really matter? Like how they're fucking us up the ass by stealing our jobs and sending them to a Vietnam sweatshop or maybe how they're giving us crappy service jobs that barely pay minimum wage in return.

Oh, but it's so interesting.......so many sadly say.

And that ladies and gentlemen is why we as a nation are fucked.

[VolcanoJen]

25. NEW MSNBC BREAKING: Boulder D.A. will NOT file charges against Karr...

... in the murder of Jon Benet Ramsey.

So, there we have it.

Will Rita Cosby please go home, now?

[LostinVA]

36. And, no more charges in CA -- he's a free man...

Now what?

[livetohike]

27. Maybe Nancy Grace will finally implode

:-)

[The Stranger]

31. She would probably demand his execution in spite of no DNA match.

Does she know what DNA stands for?

[livetohike]

43. She's possessed.

:-) and if she did know what DNA stood for, she forgot.

[ronnykmarshall]

32. Here ya go!

[livetohike]

41. Thank you ronnykmarshall

:hi: That one always makes me laugh :-).

[dolo amber]

55. ...

:rofl:

[kstewart33]

28. He played the media like a harp.

Must be a lesson in there somewhere.

[ronnykmarshall]

37. and the media behaved like the whore it is.

[RedEarth]

77. the media has been pathetic on this........

[coalition_unwilling]

33. Boulder (CO) P.D.: You've been punked! (n/t)

[Yavin4]

39. He Should Serve Time for that Mullet Hairdo in that Home Video

Seriously.

[endarkenment]

48. Mullets are sacred

in some parts of this great nation. Careful.

[janx]

56. Yes, they are!

[janx]

57. Oh man, I missed it! He had a mullet? And was he wearing

those pants up to his armpits when he had the mullet?!

[Rex]

50. Nancy Grace will now have to find a way to not eat crow.

I'm actually looking forward to watching 10 seconds of her show so I can laugh at the rich fool.

[JackDragna]

52. Where are all the do-gooders now..

..who got after those of us here who insisted the Ramseys were most likely guilty of the crime? Where's all the brave souls telling us to go to hell now, the people who had such heartfelt sympathy for the "poor, poor mother?"

[Writer]

59. I'll be one.

The killer hasn't been found.

[JackDragna]

64. At least you're fair.

The killer hasn't been found, officially. Then again, neither has the murderer of Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson, though most peopke have no doubt who killed those people.

[Writer]

69. The problem is no one knows...

but many want to believe they know.

[zreosumgame]

70. uh, one does not prove the other

What you may have felt was that some people who think with logic and not some weird false truthiness is that Karr NOT being the killer does not in any way 'prove' the parents killed her. What DNA they do have does not match the family (or that would have been shouted from the rooftops by the Nostril (love that pic BTW :) ) of Justice et al. So, by THAT chain of 'logic', at least from what little logic you seem to use, means that not only did Karr not do it, but neither did any family member. Can you see what steps you are missing now?

police has DNA
DNA does not match family
DNA does not match Karr

The above can lead to (as far as i can see) three different conclusions;

A) A 3rd party did it and is still uncharged with this crime

B) The DNA is not from the killer at all, or is spoiled in some other way

C) The DNA had nothing to do with the crime, so it does not exonerate the family OR Karr

Can you follow that now? In NO WAY do I say no member(s) of the family in not guilty, but since their is apparently any way to prove it one way or the other, for you to baldy state 'i don't care about evidence, string 'em up' does not lend you credibility

[Nutmegger]

58. This whole thing stinks.

Really, out of all times he had to be "found" it was when Judge Taylor ruled that the fascist NSA crap is unconstitutional. What little coverage the M$M would have given the wiretapping crap is now focused on Karr.

I don't know what to think anymore.

[arewenotdemo]

60. One question:

How many people sign letters "SBTC"? His first wife's parents said that he did that. Now, assuming those letters were not post-murder, how do you explain that?

[Generator]

61. I never ceased to be amazed by the stupidity of humanity

Because if this is how fucking stupid the prosecuters are-well how stupid are people? Interview his wife and find out if he was EVER IN Boulder or on that day-ohhh that's some hard detective work. The world is ruled by IDIOTS. No wonder Bush is president, and that dumb actor is a governor. HELP! And how stupid are we-hours and hours of tevee spent on this-meanwhile-there goes the constitution.

[kwyjibo]

72. Will they send him back to Thai prison?

[LostinVA]

75. He wasn't in Thai prison

Until the US Government asked him to be held. The Thais hadn't arrested him for a thing...

[LeftCoast]

74. Cable News comes out looking like a bunch of ass-hats!

As if they could look any more stupid...now this. :eyes:

[RedEarth]

76. I want to know what he had for lunch today...

and breakfast

[janx]

79. He probably ate at the Justice Center.

And there's not much to choose from there.

[Pithlet]

80. kick

[breakaleg]

81. Karr case dropped due to DNA not matching!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14553130/?GT1=8404

BOULDER, Colo. - Prosecutors abruptly dropped their case Monday against John Mark Karr in the unsolved slaying of JonBenet Ramsey, saying DNA tests failed to put him at the crime scene despite his "repeated insistence" that he killed the 6-year-old girl.

“The warrant on Mr. Karr has been dropped by the district attorney,” public defender Seth Temin said outside the jail. “They are not proceeding with the case.”
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[xultar]

82. HE got a free ticket home. BID-NESS CLASS

[rpannier]

84. And he'll

get another business class ticket to California to face child porn charges and fleeing the state.

[chelsea0011]

88. Naw! Ca. wasn't prepared to arrest and he walked out a free man.

[LostinVA]

92. Nope, CA dropped the charges

[xultar]

95. Don't think so.

[proud2BlibKansan]

83. So can we stop talking about it now?

[babylonsister]

86. Pleeeze? What a waste of time for all involved. nt

[wellst0nev0ter]

110. No WAY! I Wanna Know What He Had For Brunch

and dinner, and for a late nite snack, and what operating system he uses, whether he wears boxers or briefs, or if he was ever molested as a child. Hell, I want someone to shove a camera up his ass to see what the weather is like in there. There is so much about that guy I don't know :eyes: :sarcasm:

[TheCowsCameHome]

85. How about billing him for the prawns and champagne?

What a joke. Nice bit of detective work.

[TAPat]

87. No! Really? I'm shocked!

Shocked, I say! Just too damned shocked...

Need I add :sarcasm: ?

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

91. Ya, it's just mind boggling that this wasn't the guy

:sarcasm: added for those who couldn't tell.

[thepurpose]

89. So they release him. What fucking incompetence. Why in the hell didn't

they do the DNA test and let Thailand hold him while they sought to extradite. The could have then let the asshole go from there.

[AlCzervik]

90. oh geez Nancy Grace and her flaming nostrils of justice must be

looking like a fire breathing dragon right about now.

[Connie_Corleone]

99. I might tune in to see her eyeballs pop out of her head.

[gratuitous]

101. Did she have him all convicted and strapped on a gurney?

What am I saying? Of course she did.

I'm very glad the Colorado police decided to go step-by-step through this process and not allow themselves to be stampeded by a media blitz that was desperate to close this cold case.

But never mind all that insignificant stuff: What did Mr. Karr have to eat, and what was he wearing???

[AlCzervik]

103. you know her motto "Burn him he/she is a witch!"

[DoYouEverWonder]

93. Well then that still leaves the Ramsey's

has the prime suspects.

ROFLMAO

[breakaleg]

96. For all of those who were prepared to believe Karr or an intruder

did it, I wonder how easily they can go back to the theory it was a family member.

[goclark]

109. It's easy for me to go back to the family member

theory.

I've always thought it was good old Dad.

Didn't he run for office as a Republicon?

He had so many friends in high places in Colorado, he is another GW in action.

Is he a donor to ROVE?

Just asking.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

94. Bread and circuses, everybody!

Since you're here, can I interest you in a tasty horseshit sandwich?

[Old and In the Way]

97. Terriffic....we can get another week of distraction when the next suspect

is arrested. Nothing like focusing on an event that impacts so few when the news stories that effect so many, go untold. Thanks, Republican corporate media!

[keepCAblue]

98. But wasn't it an awfully nice distraction...

...from the U.S. failure in Iraq, the Israeli failure in Lebanon, the Lamont victory, etc.?

Tin foil time: Isn't Thailand the favorite whoring destination for little bro, Neil Bush? Wouldn't put it past Bushco to have paid Karr to play the temporary patsy, knowing full well he'd be released as soon as the DNA tests were completed, just to create a major distraction for the American voting public. It's all so Rovian.

[Finder]

100. It was the day the wiretapping was found unconstitutional by a Fed Court..

but most were just into the Ramsey case. tsk

[keepCAblue]

102. Ah, yes.

The biggest indictment against Bushco we've had since chimp took office...and voila! after 10 long years, the killer of little blond Jon Benet miraculously turns himself in and confesses to the whole sordid crime. A pat on the back to KKKarl Rove for a job well done.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

104. I'm sure all cable and network news will issue embarrassed apologies for

pimping this story 24/7 for the last week.

[rocktivity]

105. Well, duh

I hate to be an I told-you-so, but I TOLD YOU that he was just trying to fast talk his way out of a Thailand jail cell! So now he's free to go forth and propser?

:headbang:
rocknation

[Raine]

108. "I'm Shocked,

shocked I tell you"....NOT!