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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:45 PM
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Israel Defense Forces invades hospital
http://washingtontimes.com/upi/20060802-025840-6072r.htm

Israel Defense Forces invades hospital
Aug. 2, 2006 at 3:13PM

Israel Defense Forces troops, acting on information that the building was a Hezbollah base, attacked Lebanon's Al Hekme Hospital this week.

Integrated Regional Information Networks said that the IDF invaded the hospital in the city of Baalbeck on Tuesday, reportedly killing 10 Hezbollah militants and capturing five others.

While Hezbollah has denied Israel's claim, Baalbeck officials said that all patients had been evacuated earlier and that any individuals left in the hospital were Hezbollah personnel.

Yet some area officials have contradicted these claims, stating that IDF's attack claimed the lives of at least 11 civilians.

<snip>

Washington Times, UPI Page
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:51 PM
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1. EPT NEWS out of Greece
EPT NEWS out of Greece
*********I posted this item today on GD.........**************I just wish when the station switched to the Greek lanugage that I could have understood it more*******



just found this on my cable.I have Bright house and the channel is 948 here in Fl........
When they had the news in English on......the death count was 19........4 were kids......then the channel speakers switched to Greek.....but they were showing pictures of the raids and the copters over the hospital........just to let you know........don't think the US media has issued how many dead yet...........
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:07 PM
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2. All hail the conquering heroes !
:sarcasm:
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:06 PM
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3. Once again, the minute a Hezbollah militant is killed they become a civi.
Funny how that happens.
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ptolle Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:14 PM
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4. sure it's not the reverse?
And that the minute a civilian is killed they become a hezbollah fighter?Funny how that happens too.I suspect the same thing happens in Iraq with "insurgents".
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:16 PM
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7. What part of 'invade hospital'
do you not get?
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:45 PM
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8. The part you're not getting, MsMagnificent.
The tip was that the hospital was a base, not a hospital. The tip was almost certainly not from an Israeli.

What kind of sick fucker tips off your enemy to assault a hospital caring for your own citizens?

That would be Hezbollah, which is deliberately using the outrage of readers like you as part of their defense. But Hezbollah needs fresh, dead Lebanese every single day for their plan to work, and to do that, they have to set up incidents like this.

That is not equally evil to the brutality of the Israelis. It is far, far worse.

Right now, everyone with a hand in the Middle East--including the United States--is acting like amoral barbarians. But there are degrees of evil and planning the deaths and suffering of your own people for better press coverage far, far exceeds the incompetent brutality of the Israelis who are repeatedly rising to Hezbollah's bait.

If you fail to understand that then the past six years of American history might as well be out the window.

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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 06:18 PM
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9. Prove your contentions
Otherwise it's just yet another war crime.

Period.

A hospital is a hospital, it is inviolate. I don't care WHO is in there.
You want a specific person? Then wait them out.

You don't invade a hospital

No rewriting the GC because good old Big Brother 'just knows better'.
It's the exact same thing as what the US is doing at Gitmo and other secret camps. It's just bullshit words strung together so they can do exactly what they want to do without regard for long-standing, international Law.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:53 PM
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10. You are right, and I am wrong.
I'm sorry, MsMagnificent. I should have known better than to trust the Washington Times (the article cited in the original post). I thought that "acting on information that the building was a Hezbollah base" suggested that the operation was a botched job.

However, other articles now make it clear that it was a carefully planned commando operation, and there is no doubt that the exact function of the building was known in advance. What is in doubt is the later Israeli story that the hospital was evacuated in advance of the raid. That's probably bullshit, too.

Therefore, I retract my above statement and apologize to you.

However, I stand firm by my contention that all parties in this conflict are worthy of our contempt. It would appear that within a day of the Israeli raid, Hezbollah paid back in similar coin.

Right now, everyone in the Middle East is acting like an asshole.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:37 PM
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5. Robert Fisk: Entire Lebanese family killed in Israeli attack on hospital
Once again, the great Robert Fisk debunks Israeli lies, just as he did American lies in Afghanistan.

Robert Fisk: Entire Lebanese family killed in Israeli attack on hospital

Published: 03 August 2006


An attack on a hospital, the killing of an entire Lebanese family, the seizure of five men in Baalbek and a new civilian death toll - 468 men, women and children - marked the 22nd day of Israel's latest war on Lebanon.

The Israelis claimed that helicopter-borne soldiers had seized senior Hizbollah leaders although one of them turned out to be a local Baalbek grocer. In a village near the city, Israeli air strikes killed the local mayor's son and brother and five children in their family.

<snip>

Outside the shattered Dar al-Hikma hospital in Baalbek yesterday stood two burnt cars and a minivan, riddled with bullet-holes. Hizbollah, it seems, fought the Israelis there for more than an hour. The hospital, which includes several British-manufactured heart machines, was empty when the Israeli raid began and was partly destroyed in the fighting.

The Lebanese army, which has tried to stay out of the conflict - heaven knows what its 75,000 soldiers are supposed to do - was attacked again by the Israelis yesterday when they fired a missile into a car which they claimed was carrying a Hizbollah leader. They were wrong. The soldier inside died instantly, joining the 11 other Lebanese troops proclaimed as "martyrs" by the government from a logistics unit killed in an Israeli air raid two weeks ago.

The obscene score-card for death in this latest war now stands as follows: 508 Lebanese civilians, 46 Hizbollah guerrillas, 26 Lebanese soldiers, 36 Israeli soldiers and 19 Israeli civilians.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article1211295.ece
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AliceWonderland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:42 PM
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6. Thank you for posting.
Obscene scorecard indeed. War is like this...

Robert Fisk is a brave and talented man, and has all my respect.
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