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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 09:10 AM
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(Hillary) Clinton says Bush years 'hard on science'

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/07/23/clinton_says_bush_years_hard_on_science/

Clinton says Bush years 'hard on science'

BOSTON --New York Sen. Hillary Clinton said Sunday that scientific and medical advances in fields including embryonic stem cell research are being held back by a White House that puts ideology and theology ahead of facts and evidence.

"The last 5 1/2 years have been hard on science ... and particularly hard because of the president's veto last week," Clinton told 5,000 attendees at the World Transplant Congress in Boston.

President Bush vetoed legislation on Wednesday that would have increased federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, even though public opinion polls have shown that most Americans disagree with the president.

Embryonic stem cell research could lead to cures for diseases, including Alzheimer's, diabetes, cancer and Parkinson's, supporters say. Opponents consider an embryo a human life.


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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 09:13 AM
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1. seems to have been nothing but hard-on science. nt
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 09:14 AM
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2. Hillary just isn't mad enough
Haven't we had enough of this "hard on science" type of tippy-toeing? When I hear words like "disastrous" and "criminal" and "accountability" and "impeach" and "censure" coming from her mouth, I will take her seriously...
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DYouth Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:50 PM
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17. She agrees with enough of the right wing agenda to where
I wouldn't be much surprised.

Before I get flamed on that, I want to ask: how many of you have seen her speak on the issues in person? She vowed in front of me that the war against Iraq is improving womens' rights and giving women new hope in the middle east.

A few months later I witnessed two Iraqi unionists who I also went to go see speak tell me womens' rights had slipped backwards past even the 1950's.

I wonder who I should trust: the iraqi workers who risked death against Saddam to fight for their rights or the pampered warmonger, the wife of the man who starved about a million Iraqis to death.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:06 AM
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18. No flames here, DYouth. Me thinks Mrs. Clinton takes this centrist load
of shite just a tad too far. BTW, welcome to DU! :hi:
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DYouth Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:16 AM
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19. Thanks, I supporter her opponent Tasini
I'm not even in New York, but I'm tired of the face of war representing the Democrats. Tasini has a good heart and puts his money (what little he has) where his mouth is.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:33 AM
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3. So what do you intend to DO about it, Hilary?
Just askin . . .
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missTheBigDog Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:40 AM
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4. Exactly
Let's see some balls behind those statements, Hilary.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:59 AM
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5. Actually, what about US. Why aren't WE out protesting?
Why do we continue to sit lazily and expect others to do our work for us? WE are the bosses in this democracy!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 12:04 PM
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7. Welcome to DU!!!
:hi:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 11:50 AM
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6. Aaaaawe widdle hillary! So nice of you to care 6 years too late!
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SensibleAmerican Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 12:56 PM
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8. What have you done?
n/t
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:43 PM
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15. She is just evading the US/ISRAEL war that she supports so much.
Science????

She cares now???

Science Programs in Colleges across the country have been cut right and left since 2001 and she just begins to notice. Cut me some slack.
And she cares now?
In 2001 to 2002 there have been more micro-biologist selectively killed
than any other profession.
And she cares now?
The FDA has backed off testing for mad cow disease since 2002.
And she cares now?
Global Warming Issue has been known for the last twenty years.
And she cares now?

Science? I know a hell alot more than she will ever know.

Will I divulge to you what I know?
I don't divulge personal information!
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 02:14 PM
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13. She's just making noise. She has done nothing for 6 years. Flag burning
again, Hillary?
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 02:15 PM
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14. Bush says understanding science is hard, hard work! nt
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 12:59 PM
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9. Yeah, like '38-'45 was hard on Jews
God, what a wishy washy thing to say.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 01:40 PM
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10. A little mini Dark Ages
right here in our own 21st century
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 01:54 PM
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11. She's got that right n/t
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 02:12 PM
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12. Is "hard on" science anything like "Viagra" science? Sorry, couldn't
resist. You have to admit it is a perfect setup.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:34 PM
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16. ...no duh
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:00 AM
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20. Well, Hillary it's about time...
You know, I used to be a big fan, but not so much for the last few years.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:36 AM
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21. Hillary is right about this point- science is suffering tremendously.
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dmoded Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:52 AM
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22. great for agriculturists tho, who hasn't read 'my pet goat' under bush??
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:42 AM
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23. It's also been hard on many other things...
Like the New York City skyline
The Pennsylvania country side
One side of the Pentagon
All those dead people in Iraq
Women's rights
Privacy
The Bill of Rights
and so on.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:55 AM
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24. so moron* gets excited about science?
;) :rofl:

reread the title in a different way. LOL
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