CNN Breaking: CIA Director Porter Goss resigning

[VolcanoJen]

Holy crapoly!!!

ON EDIT: Linky:

AP - Source: CIA Director Goss Resigns

[seaglass]

1. It's the prostitutes!!!!!! n/t

[Orsino]

6. The timing is not coincidental!

I believe that you must be right.

[caledesi]

125. I don't believe in coincidence, just like the sudden resignation

of Andy Card...always thought it was suspect. <doing the happy dance>

[yellowcanine]

164. Maybe Card and Rove are both caught up in Hookergate.

Well, I can (wet) dream, can't I?

[VolcanoJen]

The Watergate Hooker Scandal is FOR REAL!!!

OMG OMG OMG!!!!

[wicket]

19. Holy f&*%$ing shit!!!!!

:wow:

[bdamomma]

24. Watergate, um....

you never know, was porter partaking in the whiskey and the poker games and a little more.

[durrrty libby]

61. “The Watergate Hooker Scandal is FOR REAL!!!”

Oh please let it be.
These fockers can’t fall fast enough for me.

Bowling at thugs is a game I love.

[WinkyDink]

108. Of course it is. Was there doubt?!

[Maine-ah]

114. help me out here

watergate hooker scandal?

[Canuckistanian]

171. Duke Cunningham and his cronies

They held poker parties at the Watergate. Hookers were present and accounted for.

Goss went to those parties.

[Mabus]

7. Sing Duke sing!

Let's hope Goss is just the beginning.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

16. Great minds think alike. My very first thought!!! n/t

[katty]

23. so it's Water-hooker-gate (again) that takes them down?!

[truthisfreedom]

169. you've GOT to love that Watergate hotel. it's a roach motel for thugs!

they check in, and then they resign!

[grytpype]

28. It just might be...

... here's a link to TPM Muckraker about this

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000505.php

I called the CIA this morning to get their reaction to Ken Silverstein's piece in Harper's that seems to put Goss in the poker-and-more parties thrown by Brent Wilkes. The parties were held in the Watergate and Westin Grand hotels -- and a third hotel, I'm hearing, which hasn't been reported yet -- as well as at the house of Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, a longtime friend of Wilkes' who is now #3 at the CIA.

After a long series of off-the-record phone calls with CIA spokespeople, I was finally given an on-the-record comment -- about Goss. Speaking on behalf of the director, CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Millerwise Dyck said, "This is horribly irresponsible. He hasn't even been to the Watergate in decades."

When I asked if Goss had attended Wilkes' parties at the Westin or other locations, Millerwise Dyck repeated the denial. "It's horribly irresponsible. Flatly untrue."

[TexasLawyer]

124. Don't piss off spies

There's a lesson in this--

When you piss off your employees-- and your employees happen to be world-class SPIES-- you should keep in mind that they can probably fix your little wagon when they catch you (or your indignant spokesperson) in a lie.

"He hasn't even been to the Watergate in decades." uh huh... Hotels always have surveillance cameras.

[Ghost Dog]

136. You may also want to see here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x208030

Paul Pillar, Assistant Director, 1993 - 1999, of the Counterterrorism Center; Head of the C.I.A. for the Near East 2000 - 2005 interview (shameless plug) :hi:

[lovuian]

142. CIA agents hated Porter Goss they get their

revenge!!!

[bmbmd]

36. First thought:

Hookers!!!

[UpInArms]

59. looks like Goss got caught with his pants down

http://www.harpers.org/sb-red-lights-on-capitol-hill.html

Red Lights on Capitol Hill?
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006. By Ken Silverstein.

The Wall Street Journal reported today that indicted former California Congressman Randall "Duke" Cunningham may not have limited his good times to partying on a rented yacht. It turns out the FBI is currently investigating two defense contractors who allegedly provided Cunningham with free limousine service, free stays at hotel suites at the Watergate and the Westin Grand, and free prostitutes.

The two defense contractors who allegedly bribed Cunningham, said the Journal, were Brent Wilkes, the founder of ADCS Inc., and Mitchell Wade, the founder of MZM Inc.; both firms profited greatly from their connections with Cunningham. The Journal also suggested that other lawmakers might be implicated. I've learned from a well-connected source that those under intense scrutiny by the FBI are current and former lawmakers on Defense and Intelligence comittees—including one person who now holds a powerful intelligence post. I've also been able to learn the name of the limousine service that was used to ferry the guests and other attendees to the parties: Shirlington Limousine and Transportation of Arlington, Virginia. Wilkes, I've learned, even hired Shirlington as his personal limousine service.

Looks like he's no longer holding that 'powerful intelligence post" :D

:popcorn:

[Uncle Joe]

165. Free prostitutes! What happened to the seventy two virgins,

oh wait that's for the next life.

[liberalnurse]

64. I love it that

it's the simple things that bring down a dynasty. O8)

[AX10]

93. What prostitutes?

Are your saying that Goss is involved in a sex scandal?

[qanda]

101. That's what I want to know

I guess I'm really out of the loop.

[seaglass]

105. See post #57 in this thread n/t

[qanda]

115. Thank you

I did some quick research and hopefully I'm up to speed now.

[HardWorkingDem]

2. What is going on with this?!?!?!

My, my.....something is going on....

[katty]

15. methinks that as well-something big for EGOmaniac Goss to

to be forced to resign.

[rodeodance]

70. ProsituteGate. simple as that is my gues.

[katty]

94. yes-so many more violations but hookergate does the job

[struggle4progress]

175. Goss resignation provokes speculation

WHITE HOUSE (AP) - No one's saying why Porter Goss is leaving the top job at the CIA ...
http://www.kget.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=BA292DE3-22DC-48EB-81B5-309CB0B57566

[katty]

3. And Rover??! please!

[htuttle]

4. Hooker trouble, maybe?

I know one of his staff was implicated in Watergate-gate -- wasn't Goss possibly involved too?

[Pale Blue Dot]

5. Woo! That's a shock!

I can't wait to get the story behind this one. Was he the leaker? :D

[ballsalicious]

8. link to Goss' resume....

http://www.cia.gov/cia/information/Goss.html

[Hoping4Change]

146. Thanks.

Welcome to DU. Glad your here

[Edgewater_Joe]

9. Maybe He'll Run as a Repunk In FL Instead of Katherine Harris?

This one actually IS interesting, isn't it?

[Jack Rabbit]

You mean replace an election fraudster with an intelligence manipulator?

I see that Bill Nelson's approval ratings aren't too high in Florida, yet he holds a sizable lead in his Senate race. That says a lot about the GOP in Florida, doesn't it?

[Mabus]

26. or to spend more time with Andy Card's family

along with Snotty.

[Seabiscuit]

177. You mean: to spend more time with Andy Card's wife?

Was she one of the hookers? :)

[soup]

159. The BUZZ -

Sen. Goss
As if we needed any more rumors in the Katherine Harris soap opera. The surprise resignation of CIA chief Porter Goss has my blackberry humming with wild speculation about him jumping into the U.S. Senate race. Given his rocky tenure at the CIA that seems hard to swallow but....

"He'd be an awesome candidate,'' CFO candidate Tom Gallagher said when asked about the Goss for senate talk. When we suggested Goss' CIA experience might explain why this would be the best kept political secret in Florida, Gallagher didn't miss a beat: "That would be about the only secret they kept."

Meanwhile here's more fodder for the Senate race speculation: President Bush will be in Florida Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. Katherine Harris' campaign says she accepted the White House's invitation to join him in Sun City Tuesday. A spokesman for Allan Bense says the speaker learned of the president's visit from the press and that he has no plans to join the president.
http://www.sptimes.com/blogs/buzz/


things that make ya go hmmmm.

[Jack Rabbit]

10. Link?

Please.

[ScreamingMeemie]

14. here

http://www.cnn.com/

[Jack Rabbit]

35. Thank you

This thread now has the official Jack Rabbit recommendation.

[Name removed]

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Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[bdamomma]

12. they are jumping off the hildenberg

hmmm......something is going on. another one bites the dust.

[peacetalksforall]

54. YES - this adminstration SOARS - just changing the deck chairs on the

Hindenburg. Go for more, Stephen! I wish Jon and Stephen were on tonight. I hope they are not on vacation next week. This calls for a special appearance from them!

[KeepItReal]

58. But this administration is *rising*!?

ha ha

:woohoo:

[Seabiscuit]

178. Must be all the hot air.

[janx]

13. Didn't he just get there?

Or am I confused?

[ballsalicious]

18. He was in April 21 2005....so about a year...

[kurtyboy]

17. The bigs wheels are now falling off!

This is the big moment in time where the investigations might just have a chance at beginning. The GOP can now kiss off control of the Congress, and smart Republicans will start rattling the cages for impeachment. I'm headed to Costco for the eight-pound jug of Orville Reddenbacher's--this is about to get good.

Oh yeah, isn't today also Fitzo De Mayo? Double spanky, anyone?

[rodeodance]

20. it was the 'personal announcement" that snotty talked of earlier.

[DoYouEverWonder]

21. Holy shit!

This is HUGE!

Maybe that revolt in the CIA didn't go so well for ol' Porter.

[Greeby]

22. Holy flirking schnit!

:wow:

[rodeodance]

25. cnn is trying to get the tape.--they have it.

[rodeodance]

29. Bush says he accepts his resignation. BYE BYE

[Supersedeas]

37. another POLITICAL appointment bites the dust (ala Brownie)

[leesa]

89. Bush looks like he's shittin' bricks, doesn't he? Who will control the

pissed off CIA agents now?

[0007]

123. Guess who? Here's Johnnie

Negroponte to the rescue.

[smirkymonkey]

27. Let me guess....

"to spend more time with his FAMILY"

[rodeodance]

33. we will see. Bush lauding him now.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

30. "not expecting replacement to be made today" Translation....

this was unplanned.

hoohoooo!

[Divernan]

118. Resigning w/ no replacement means =s xtreme scandal is imminent

This is top position at a critically important agency in the war on terra. Whatever surfaced in the Oval Office was so shocking and ugly that they couldn't even take the weekend to line up a replacement or even announce an interim appointment! ! !

[serryjw]

129. Perfectly said

WOW..........Some one please furnish a summary of the Cunningham scandal. I stopped reading about sex, too many important things happening. I thought!

[stevietheman]

133. Add to that a friday news release... yup, it's extreme scandal. n/t

n/t

[Blue_Tires]

157. exactly

i remember that WH staffer that mysteriously resigned for no reason a couple of months ago....3 weeks after the resignation, it was discovered he was scamming the return desk at Target!

[watrwefitinfor]

132. WoooooHooooo

I am over 60, and not given much to extravagant web-eze.

But WOO HOO, DAMMIT, WOO HOO!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

And Watergate - How. Fucking. Fitting.

:woohoo:

Wat

[eppur_se_muova]

143. How many ways can you say "surprised"? Check out the BBC story:

US President George Bush has unexpectedly announced that the head of the CIA, Porter Goss, is stepping down.

No reason was given for the move, which was presented at a hastily arranged press call at the White House, where the two men exchanged compliments.
***
The BBC's correspondent in Washington, Justin Webb, says the announcement came as a bolt from the blue.

While there have been several changes at the top of the Bush administration recently, and more are expected, Mr Goss's name was never mentioned.

Friends of the former CIA agent and Republican congressman said they were hugely surprised.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4978776.stm

[DoYouEverWonder]

31. I guess he finished that shredding job

he was hired for?

[coffeenap]

32. OK! Now, who's next???? Can't wait...nt

[Nickster]

34. WOO HOO. It's all about the Hos!

[wicket]

45. DU called it last week!!!!

:woohoo:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1042958

[rodeodance]

38. Porter: 'distinct honor and privedge to have served you"

[rodeodance]

40. "we are safer because of your work"--porter to Bush.

[rodeodance]

43. msnbc"---remarkable short tenure! yup.

[Cush]

39. 'Medal of Freedom' time?

every other failure has received one........

[truthisfreedom]

41. bush used his "deck chair" excuse to dump "hooker" goss?

cute. the hindenberg is on fire again.

[Quakerfriend]

42. watching them on CNN... They both seem scared S* less!

[rodeodance]

47. they do seem 'reserved' to me.

[HardWorkingDem]

44. Chimpy: "...CIA.....known for its secrecy".....no shit....

Can you believe a president would say such a dumbass thing.....

[WiseButAngrySara]

106. LOL! Line perfect for TDS. ....n/t

:rofl:

[Ladyhawk]

137. He's the master of the obvious.

It's what he does. :)

[xxqqqzme]

154. 'We live in a global world'

raisin brain discovered recently......

[brooklynite]

46. Maybe Bernard Kerik could replace him?

I don't think he's found a replacement job since DHS...

[VolcanoJen]

50. rofl

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

51. oh, please;

[VolcanoJen]

48. Kathleen Koch is kind of an idiot

She's talking about pre-war intelligence, and maybe that's why Goss is resigning.

Uh-huh. Sweetie, wasn't he a congressman when all that was going on?

I wonder if anyone in the Washington press corps reads Talking Points Memo. Apparently not.

[leesa]

99. They are just trying to use the worn out spin of blaming the CIA for

'bad intelligence'...the whole point of installing Porter Goss was to squash the pissed off CIA agents who were sick of being blamed when they did their job right.

[bdamomma]

49. has to do something with possibly the prostitution thingy

at the watergate. speculuation all speculuation on AAR.

what a way to end the week, these guys are getting sloppy, next Rove????

:wow:

[rodeodance]

52. well, it does have possibilites. This is happening TOO fast!

[heartofthesiskiyou]

111. Agree on Rove next. But expect a bombshell and not the Hos

They had time to stage on the Wilkes/Hos thingy. I'm thinking a big time cat fight in the inner circles. Somehow I'm linking the McGovern questioning of Rummy.

speculation.... Was a mass resignation in the works of professionals opposing the politicization of the CIA. Possibly pros joining in with the McGovern group? Remember the long held CIA focus on information and not politics. Pros at CIA have been ticked for a long time and the McGovern thing might have begun a cat fight.

Their making the announcement as I'm writing, this was just part of the shakeup at WH. I don't believe that for a second.

I don't think anyone (inner circle) new this as late as yesterday. Waiting on bombshell here.

[sofa king]

155. I spotted something weird early this morning.

I noticed this editorial and found it to be odd, particularly because it was propagating among small news outlets I've never really heard of before. Then after Goss resigned, even more news outlets picked it up.

The article has since been changed to reflect Goss' resignation.

There's something weird about it, beyond the fact that it's an obvious Republican hit-job on the CIA, but I can't put my finger on what it is.

[leftchick]

53. HAHAHA!!! Prostitute-Gate Got A Big One!!!!!

:rofl:

:popcorn:

[rodeodance]

67. I do believe you are right.

[eleny]

55. Well, he did the job he was hired for

Typical corporate schtick. Bring in a temporary henchman.

[rodeodance]

57. CIA's Goss Drawn Into Hooker Probe? posted last wk on DU

Thu Apr-27-06 06:46 PM
Original message
CIA's Goss Drawn Into Hooker Probe?

Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 06:54 PM by LiviaOlivia
CIA's Goss Drawn Into Hooker Probe?
By Justin Rood - April 27, 2006
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000494.php

Ken Silverstein reports at Harper's blog on the spreading Cunningham-Wade-Wilkes prostitute scandal. He says more lawmakers, past and present, are being investigated. Sounds like he thinks House Intel Chair-turned-CIA Director Porter Goss is one of them:

I've learned from a highly-connected source that those under intense scrutiny by the FBI are current and former lawmakers on Defense and Intelligence comittees -- including one person who now holds a powerful intelligence post.


Yowzah.

Actually, make that a double-yowzah: Remember that Goss is the one who plucked one of Wilkes' old San Diego friends, the unusual and colorful Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, out of CIA middle-management obscurity to be his #3 at the agency. At the time of Foggo's appointment, no one could figure out where he came from, or how Goss knew him.

But if Goss was at the "parties," I wonder, was Foggo there too? Did they see each other? Is this where Goss had an opportunity to gauge Foggo's abilities, and determine he was qualified for the CIA executive director post?

~snip~


Dear DU friends,
Add http://www.tpmmuckraker.com / and http://www.harpers.org/index.html to your bookmarks and read daily.

[rodeodance]

62. msnbc says they will continue to 'dissect' this news but they do not repor

t on this---YET>

[seaglass]

69. Do they not know, I mean they speculate on everything else?

Geez, what a bunch of idiots - do some reporting.

[eleny]

90. I had no idea of these details!

Went to fill the dishwasher and clean my kitchen and came back to all this. I figured that he was the typical corporate guy brought in to make some firings and then leave. Looks like he's been getting his own cylinders fired up!

Thanks a million for the details!

[AngryOldDem]

56. Has to be more to this story...

...than that Porter is pissed because most of his "power" has been taken away by Negraponte's job. (According to CNN's Katherine Koch.)

I DO so love watching this administration self-destruct right before my very eyes...

[rodeodance]

66. well, we know there is --see 57 post and send it around!

[peacetalksforall]

78. Same crapola on MSNBC by Allard and full time employees of GE. nt

[AngryAmish]

60. I told you he was going to resign

OK, I didn't. I am just trying to make myself look better.

[UrbScotty]

63. Praise be to Jesus Christ, now and forever! (nt)

[sabra]

65. my guess... he actually was going to try to catch Bin Laden

BushCo didn't like that, so they axed him.

j/k

probably the Watergate scandal... pass the popcorn

[gasperc]

68. but they caught P Kennedy instead

is it any wonder that the Kennedy story is getting more play and waterhookergate?

[rodeodance]

75. with a fender bender story.

[Mabus]

83. LOL

:rofl:

They should have had Colbert call his friends and "bump" him.

[mikelgb]

71. let us remember and laugh:

:evilgrin:
Michael Moore video from before the idiot was nominated:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/goss.php

[Us vs Them]

107. That's hilarious!

Why isn't this stuff on the news?

[stepnw1f]

72. The Guy isn't even Qualified for the Position

Just another crony...

[Nordmadr]

73. The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire. We don't need no water let

the mother f'er burn. Burn m'fer, burn.

- The Bloodhound Gang

[Sinti]

74. Are ya'll sure he's not just done with his job there? Cleaning house

ensuring that only "true believers" are left, and now wants out before the heat turns into fire? I can't imagine the CIA hasn't used sex as a weapon for the majority of its bureaucratic life. Goss is an old CIA dude with a history, since the '60s, don't you think it could be that they just asked him a favor (get rid of the infidels), favor is done, and now he wants out?

You know his wife has a small farm and grows her own "heirloom seeded" veggies, because she's afraid of the store-bought kind -- so quaint and homey...

[rodeodance]

80. msnbc reporter-We thought Scot leaving was the big story today!!

Kevin somebody

[FlashHarry]

84. Not with Kennedy's whisky-sodden breath in the air...

...these jerks aren't dumb enough to do a routine announcement while they can try to milk the alleged Kennedy drunk-driving story. Nope. This is hasty, and this is big.

BTW, do we call it "watergate-gate" now? :)

[Shakespeare]

88. You need to familiarize yourself with the hookergate scandal.

Check out talkingpointsmemo.com for a primer. That's why Goss abruptly resigned.

[VolcanoJen]

98. You know who else needs to familiarize themselves with HookerGate?

The Washington Press Corps, that's who.

Watching these idiots speculating on CNN is giving me a headache behind my left eye. Hey, CNN... we're talking gambling and whores, the kind of story you love to cover! So why are you guys ignoring the elephant in the room?

[Shakespeare]

102. Yup. They've been IGNORING it.

Of course, they can't get enough of Patrick Kennedy's fender bender. :eyes:

They have become completely and shamefully worthless.

[Sinti]

119. That's shockingly irresponsible of him

You would think a man with his experience would know this would come out. I mean, it's hookers, not something minor like stealing billions from the national treasury. Preemptive resignation, I suppose.

[eppur_se_muova]

139. "not something minor like stealing billions"... nice.

It's upper class values here. "Proper" people don't discuss money matters, because it's ALL plundered loot. They don't get excited about the occasional sexual dalliance because smiting the guilty would never stop. But woe be to him who commits the unpardonable sin of getting caught ... and by caught I mean "even the plebes know now".

"Hmmm.... ? Oh, I 'm afraid we don't know the gentlemen you refer to."

[ngGale]

76. Hookergate, is my best bet ...

tee,hee!:popcorn:

[seaglass]

77. ROFLMAO - Bush must be livid that this is going to bump Kennedy

off the 24/7 coverage.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

92. Think about why Goss is resigning today....something else is being hidden.

[wtmusic]

97. Maybe Abu Ghraib photos to be released?

:freak:

[seaglass]

121. That's always possible - though this is big news that I'm sure

Bush wanted to bury over the weekend. Maybe the Harper's article is coming out Monday?

I hate to be greedy but if there is something else too....that would be good:-)

[Catherine Vincent]

79. Oh my!

He hasn't been on the job long eh?

[texanshatingbush]

81. I guess Congressman Patrick Kennedy can cancel

his 3 PM press conference.

[rodeodance]

100. I heard it was to be with the local press in RI.

[texasleo]

103. who?

lol

[VolcanoJen]

82. Does anyone know when that Harpers piece on Goss is coming out?

Supposedly, the Harpers story puts Goss and his lacky, Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, at the poker-and-hookers parties at the Watergate.

I wonder if Bush got his first look at the article... I'm thinking maybe he did.

I'm also blown away by how uninformed the Washington press corps is on the Watergate Hooker Scandal that's about to blow up in all of our faces. They're speculating and speculating as to why Goss would resign, but none of them have mentioned the upcoming scandal. At ALL.

They're really quite worthless, aren't they?

[rodeodance]

91. well, here is a Harpersblog report on him.

CIA's Goss Drawn Into Hooker Probe?
By Justin Rood - April 27, 2006
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000494.php

Ken Silverstein reports at Harper's blog on the spreading Cunningham-Wade-Wilkes prostitute scandal. He says more lawmakers, past and present, are being investigated. Sounds like he thinks House Intel Chair-turned-CIA Director Porter Goss is one of them:

I've learned from a highly-connected source that those under intense scrutiny by the FBI are current and former lawmakers on Defense and Intelligence comittees -- including one person who now holds a powerful intelligence post.


Yowzah.

Actually, make that a double-yowzah: Remember that Goss is the one who plucked one of Wilkes' old San Diego friends, the unusual and colorful Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, out of CIA middle-management obscurity to be his #3 at the agency. At the time of Foggo's appointment, no one could figure out where he came from, or how Goss knew him.

But if Goss was at the "parties," I wonder, was Foggo there too? Did they see each other? Is this where Goss had an opportunity to gauge Foggo's abilities, and determine he was qualified for the CIA executive director post?

~snip~


Dear DU friends,
Add http://www.tpmmuckraker.com / and http://www.harpers.org/index.html to your bookmarks and read daily.

Livia

[rodeodance]

85. NOT one single word of Prostitute gate yet from msm.

[rodeodance]

87. I feel like I live in a splite world: One from blogs-the other from msm!

[BrotherBuzz]

120. Not one word yet...NPR is playing Negroponte-Goss power struggle angle

Methinks the prostitute story will surface shortly.

[Vinca]

86. Don't you just love Fridays for news???

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

96. well, it would be bombshell if one cable news mentioned Prostitutegate.

[bmbmd]

112. Cnn all over prostitute angle-

John Roberts et al.

[rodeodance]

127. ok, thanks, thime to switch the stations.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

95. Chimplosion!

[texanshatingbush]

104. Duke Cunningham now mentioned on CNN

[QuettaKid]

109. I'm sorry. . . .what was that again about Patrick Kennedy? nt.

.

[texanshatingbush]

117. Much to the Repugs chagrin, The Porter Goss announcement is

taking attention off the P.Kennedy news. Just before the Porter Goss resignation, P.Kennedy had announced a news conference at 3pm to discuss last nights alleged DUI incident at the Capital.

[bunny planet]

110. getting a little to be like 'hard work' keeping track of all those

imploding scandals hey Commander Cuckoobananas.

[FreepFryer]

My favorite quote from 'Cannonball Run'... at the Watergate? :)

Mad Dog: Hey, you the one running this fleabag?
Desk Clerk: Huh?
Mad Dog: Where the hookers?
Desk Clerk: What?
Mad Dog: Hookers, man! Where the hookers?

[DeafAngelboy23]

113. I missed last 10 Minutes of All My Children because of ABC breaking news

Porter Goss can kiss my ass!!! :nuke:

[VolcanoJen]

122. ABC broke in?

Did they mention anything about hookers?

:-)

[KansDem]

160. Nah, why would they mention something about hookers on a kids' show?

"All My Children" ;)

[kimsterdemster]

116. Hookergate at Watergate....

I read on another board...

FORNIGATE :rofl:

[rodeodance]

126. Kessler, author of book on CIA says Porter undermined career people

within the CIA--lots of people have left posts. And this will be good for CIA. msnbc just now.

[leveymg]

158. Payback is sweet. Honey-sweet.

[rodeodance]

128. Wolfie Blitzer will be having a hay day soon.

[screembloodymurder]

149. I'll bet he was there.

Giving BJ to spooks.

[rodeodance]

130. DU thread on cnn talking of hookergate here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1111025&mesg_id=1111737

[catmandu57]

131. The news dump must be big

They didn't save this for 5:00, I'd like to hear from some of the girls, if they were girls know what I mean Vern.

[havocmom]

134. Presstitute Tim Russert was on MSNBC talking up Negroponte as reason

Blah blah wants own guy in CIA blah blah..
Looked VERY desperate to be believes...

MSNBC now playing Kennedy's appearance and the problems with drugs :eyes:

Boy, they be tryin to dump Goss story post haste!

[subterranean]

153. "Porter was sore cuz he didn't get Johnny's job"

In the story on the CNN site, after reading through all the praise from Bush, you find former CIA director Stansfield Turner speculating that Goss resigned because he was "passed over" for Negroponte's job as national intelligence director. Seriously.

[havocmom]

156. Seems that would still involve a slow leaking of rumors toward that end

This shot outta nowhere- that smacks of something the junta didn't see coming and couldn't fix

Been sayin for 2 years that Cheney was a damned fool to mix it up with the spooks. He is playin tough guy and they play chess. All the shit hitting various fans in succession seems like a well orchestrated pay back by some people with a lot of info and a real love of country.

[central scrutinizer]

161. video clip of Russert placing the blame where it belongs

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[orleans]

135. hookers hookers everywhere! n/t

[killbotfactory]

138. He just wants to spend more time with his family...

and prostitutes!

[Peace Patriot]

140. I agree it's likely Hookergate, but I can't help but think of Traitorgate

as well, with a Rove indictment likely coming next week. Goss's job was to purge remnants of the honest CIA--the people who think it's their job to promote peace, not manufacture war. This junta did something very dirty, indeed--outing a CIA agent and the entire WMD counter-proliferation project that she headed (Brewster-Jennings), putting the lives of all of our covert agents and contacts in danger. That has to be an unforgivable crime, to any honest persons in the CIA and in government and the miltary. It's no stretch to call it treason--a possible hanging offense. And Porter Goss was installed to COMPLETE the work of Traitorgate. Partying with prostitutes is surely the least of his crimes. And then there's torture and renditions, etc. (Anybody else suspect that Bush junta torture/renditions/ secret prisons have nothing whatever to do with keeping America safe--and are probably used to hunt down, torture and kill witnesses to Bush crimes, and for other nefarious purposes?)

Anyway, I have a friend who always said that Nixon met his political end because he used foul language on the infamous tapes, not because he was a crook and a conspirator. I tend to be stupid about such things. (--the slaughter of upwards of two million Vietnamese and Southeast Asians was what *I* thought Americans were protesting, in Nixon's demise). But these days, I'm even more suspicious of the war profiteering corporate news monopolies' false NARRATIVES of our political life. In short, is Hookergate--which they are trying to ignore, but which they won't be ignoring for long--cover for far worse crimes? Or--to put it another way--is it just the tip of the iceberg, that is, the thing the good guys were able to catch him at (a la Fitzgerald and the perjury/obstruction charges against Libby)?

Also, you gotta wonder about a CIA Director who could be that stupid. (But then, the Nixon "plumbers" burglary of the Watergate, as stupid things go, was also off the charts.)

[Jose Diablo]

170. I'd say your friend is correct about Nixon cussing is what did him in

June Cleaver was very upset to hear Dick cussing. Never underestimate mom's power in this country, any country for that matter. Sure there are the 'patriarchal' effects, as war and such, but when it comes to values like personal conduct, Mom is in charge.

This why sex scandals will get a politician bounced faster than a money scandal.

[eppur_se_muova]

141. Q: Why isn't the Washington press corps saying anything about prostitutes?

A: Professional courtesy.

[LiberalPartisan]

144. BREAKING: CIA Chief Porter Goss resigns

The Associated Press
WASHINGTON - CIA Director Porter Goss resigned unexpectedly Friday, leaving behind a spy agency still battling to recover from the scars of intelligence failures before America's worst terrorist attack and faulty information that formed the U.S. rationale for invading Iraq.

It was the latest move in a second-term shake-up of President Bush's team.

Making the announcement from the Oval Office, Bush called Goss' tenure one of transition.

"He has led ably," Bush said, Goss at his side. "He has a five-year plan to increase the analysts and operatives."

Goss said the trust, confidence and latitude that Bush placed in him "is something I could have never imagined."

" I believe the agency is on a very even keel, sailing well," Goss said. "I honestly believe that we have improved dramatically."

The president did not name a successor, but said that person would continue Goss' reforms.

Continued...

[derby378]

145. Dupe, dude...

Sorry...

[LiberalPartisan]

147. DOH!!!....n/t

[screembloodymurder]

148. Hell yes, he's into hookers.

That's why Bush hired him. Everyone in this administration is a hooker or a hookee. That's how they're selected and that's how they know they can control them. I'll bet half the reporters in Washington are getting or giving BJ in return for favors.

[Joe Chi Minh]

150. I knew that sense of humor would get him in trouble.

[xxqqqzme]

151. WOW - who knew randy 'duke'

had such a fine singing voice??? You think baritone or bass?

[brentspeak]

152. This happened a day after the McGovern/Rumsfeld confrontation

People are talking about Hookergate, but Goss' resignation does come right after a former CIA official blasts the current CIA on live national television.

[w4rma]

162. LOL I think if I were P. Kennedy I'd cancel that press conference now.

His going to sleep while driving wreck is old news all of a sudden.

[saberjet22]

163. Another fine mess you've gotten us into.

Bush...what a judge of character. He prides himself on it, he's said so. Every single choice he's made has turned out bad. Unerring idiocy. He's the kind of guy, if he's riding along with you in your car and giving you directions, you know if he says turn left, you'd better turn right. Quel idiot!

[boddhi]

166. and for those of you who are wondering how close Faux is to the WH

http://www.sploid.com/news/2006/05/fall_of_an_amer.php

<snip>

"Something happened," neo-conservative magazine editor William Kristol said on Fox News this afternoon. "It's going to be a bad few days. We're going to discover something ... It will be something not good for the Bush Administration."

Fox News actually got a phone call from a "top White House official" during Kristol's damning comments, and Kristol was cut off so Bush mouthpiece Chris Wallace could say the Goss resignation is just a harmless part of the "White House shakeup." Sure.

<snip>

[rocktivity]

173. A "harmless" part of the White House shakeup? TORO TURD!

So "harmless" that they announce Goss's resignation without a sucessor in the wings? "Part" of the shakeup, my :kick:! Oh, well--another Rethug scandal, another busted bullshit meter...

:nuke:
rocknation

[womanofthehills]

167. Randi suggesting male prostitutes

Randi Rhodes began her program today suggesting male prostitutes at Watergate -
This is getting so interesting!!! Hope Rove was there.

[ldf]

172. gannon does get around

doesn't he?

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

168. update: CIA Chief Goss Leaves CIA in Latest Change

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060505/ap_on_go_pr_wh/white_house_shake_up;_ylt=AqPc8hqZMoK7LRdiz6VlxkSs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

CIA Chief Goss Leaves CIA in Latest Change

By KATHERINE SHRADER, Associated Press Writer 12 minutes ago

WASHINGTON -
CIA Director Porter Goss resigned suddenly Friday, nudged out after a turmoil-filled 18 months at the spy agency as it struggled to forge a new identity in an era of intelligence blunders and government overhauls.

Goss offered little explanation in a brief appearance with
President Bush and a televised address to agency personnel.

"CIA remains the gold standard," he said. "When I came to CIA in September of 2004, I wanted to accomplish some very specific things, and we have made great strides on all fronts."

But the agency, as well as the Bush administration, has been far from peaceful. Goss' departure was the White House's third major personnel move in just over a month, aimed at reinvigorating Bush's second term.

[winston61]

174. I smell a big fat rat named Negroponte

For fuck's sake, he was in the room when Bush made the announcement. Poor old Goss probably never saw it coming. For a guy that murdered thousand of central Americans getting rid of one out of his depth boxo like Goss was no sweat.

[sofa king]

176. The Official Speculation Sub-thread

Kevin Drum notes the following:

* Laura Rozen #1: Dana Priest is on MSNBC right now saying we'll have to wait for tomorrow's paper to find out why he resigned. The Post must have called him for comment on a story running tomorrow about his involvement with Brent Wilkes.

* Laura Rozen #2: I hear that when Porter Goss went to meet with Negroponte today, he didn't know he was going to be leaving the job. And that it would have been the President's decision, not Negroponte's. And that this may have to do with how Goss handled a management issue concerning Foggo.

* Justin Rood: I've heard it a bit more bluntly: Goss was told to fire Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, his troublesome Executive Director, and Goss refused. That's what we're hearing now from knowledgeable sources. But there's a lot of contradictory information.

* John Podhoretz: If Goss were somehow implicated in matters relating to Duke Cunningham, say, there's no way on earth Bush would have made such a friendly show of his departure. Seems more likely to me that there was some kind of showdown between Goss and Negroponte and Negroponte said, "Either he goes or I go," and there Goss went.

* Time magazine: The sudden and unexpected resignation of Porter Goss as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency on Friday highlights a long bureaucratic battle that's been going on behind the scenes in Washington. Ever since John Negroponte was appointed Director of National Intelligence a year ago and given the task of coordinating the nation's myriad spy agencies, he has been diluting the power and prestige of the CIA....Earlier this week, in a little noticed move, Negroponte signaled that he would be moving still more responsibility from the CIA to his own office, including control over the analysis of terrorist groups and threats.

An unnamed source close to me suggested to me that I keep an eye out for "a crippled sheep shackled in a basement."

The returned soul of Raymond Chandler put it to me this way: "One of Goss' boys got too close to Rumsfeld, made him look like a sucker in broad daylight. Everyone knows it's not Goss' fault, but it's his responsibility, see? So maybe the Don overreacts a little and puts the hit on Goss. Nobody can do nuthin' but looks the other way and whistle, 'cause the Don's got the juice and Goss is pushing up daisies--or might as well be."

Please post other notable speculation here.