Al-Zawahri says U.S. hit hard in Iraq

[ECH1969]

Al-Qaida’s No. 2 says in Net video that America’s back has been broken

Al-Qaida's deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri said Iraqi insurgents have broken America's back in three years of war in Iraq, according to a video posted on the Internet early Saturday.

"Al-Qaida in Iraq alone has carried out 800 martyrdom operations in three years, besides the victories of the other mujahideen. And this is what has broken the back of America in Iraq," Zawahri said in the video posted on an Islamist Web site.

“America, Britain and their allies have achieved nothing but losses, disasters and misfortunes,” the Egyptian Islamic militant leader said in the video.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12536525/

[cliss]

1. I never, ever

thought I would end up agreeing with a terrorist.

But the day has come. Mr. Zawahri is right. And really, we're not the first ones to exhaust ourselves in Iraq. Russia tried it in the '70's. They had to pack their bags and go home.

[enigma000]

3. Russia in the 1970s? I thought Iraq and Russia were allies then n/t

[cliss]

4. Oops sorry, you're right. (it's been a long week)

Iraq was occupied in the 1930's by England. They were the ones who mastered the technique of "divide and conquer" and installed Sunnis as the leader of that country, even though they were the minority even then.

It's Afghanistan where Russia hemorrhaged to death financially. Some even say that was the real cause of the fall of the U.S.S.R.....

Heed the warning, George Bush.

[Pavulon]

10. Yep, we paid for their guns...

The cia by way of pak intelligence ran that war..

There is no major super power backer of the resistance in Iraq, unlike the muj in Afghanistan or the vietcong.

[Oversea Visitor]

12. I agree

nothing much
Few rockets or mortar falling in green zone only.

Nothing much :puke:

[Pavulon]

8. Thanks to the CIA, that is

as soon as they invaded we saw a chance to bleed them in response to Vietnam.

Read Charlie Wilson's war. Good book.

We paid billions for that war, and trained the "muj" who got all allahed up and took over Afghanistan and eventually began carrying out terrorist attacks all over the world. Ironic huh?

[ECH1969]

11. Zarqawi, Zawhiri, and Bin Laden

All fought the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 70s. Of course there is a massive difference between the US and the Soviet Union back then and that difference is mostly economic. Our GDP growth is something like 4.8% today. And, even with Bush spending like a drunken sailor and two wars our economy isn't going to collapse anytime soon.

[hogwyld]

14. Yep, time to pack it in

While we're at it, let's go ahead and become that nation we were in the '30's which was isolationist. I'm sick of dealing with the world's problems when we have plenty of our own. Of course, the * administration has made islam the new communism, and has it's new "domino theory"

[enigma000]

2. Blowing up hospitals, schools, marketplaces, police stations

and other locations is not braking the back of the multi-national forces. It is, however, causing untold death and destruction among the Iraqi people who just want to live their lives in peace.

[atreides1]

5. They were at peace

Prior to the invasion of their country!

And some of those bombs that the "multi-national forces" dropped, did hit hospitals, schools, market places, police stations, and residential areas, especially in a place called Fallujah!!!

By keeping those multi-national forces tied down in Iraq, and killing troops as well as the civilian population, the insurgents and the terrorists are slowly whittling away, like a pack of hyenas that attack a wounded lion, the multi-national forces.

[dmoded]

16. hmm..

Remember when shock and awe began, the amount of fire in the sky we saw for 2 days? Now surely those weren't a few artillery shells on insurgent strongholds.. The greenzone may be somewhat intact but has anybody ever asessed the damage caused from shock and awe? Do we see their water supply problems on the media, or the power outtages caused by the disruption of electricity. No, we see a few troops looking for an insurgent, not the other.

Then we have another 3 years of bombings and raids, I tend to question just how great of a mess we ave caused in iraq. It definitely can't be pretty- putting away the spoonfed media we are given of "mission accomplished!"

d.

[Newsjock]

6. Tell us the website!

Zawahri said in the video posted on an Islamist Web site.

To NBC, CBS, ABC, and the rest of you media types: Start telling us the names of these "Islamist Web sites." Let us investigate for ourselves. Let us see their registration information. Let us trace them.

Unless, of course, there's something in there that we aren't supposed to know.

[Name removed]

7. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[uppityperson]

9. alneda.com is a forum

yes, I checked it out. Brief search it looked like a general forum.

[Bushies gotta go]

15. Something doesn't add up here

According to the report dated June 25, 2002, "These statements and others from al Qaeda have been appearing from time to time on a Web site called www.alneda.com"

But the web site, according to the "Whois" data was not created until July 16, 2002.

Now why would that be? And why would the Berlin, MD registrant have an International Phone number?


(edited to correct html character)

[teryang]

13. Propaganda machine in overdrive since Bush hit new lows n/t