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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:20 PM
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Rice: U.N. Credibility at Stake Over Iran
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 01:22 PM by leftchick
By PAUL AMES, Associated Press Writer
25 minutes ago



SOFIA, Bulgaria - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Thursday the credibility of the U.N. Security Council was as stake as it decides how to deal with Iran's likely rejection of a deadline to bring its nuclear program in line with international demands.

"In order to be credible, the Security Council, of course, has to act," Rice told reporters at a NATO foreign ministers' meeting.

The U.N. has given Iran until Friday to halt its uranium enrichment activities.

She said it was "pretty clear" that Iran would not meet the requirements set by the U.N. nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, regarding the enrichment of uranium — a process that can produce fuel for generators or fissile material for nuclear weapons.

"The Security Council is the primary and most important institution for the maintenance of peace and stability and security and it cannot have its will and its word simply ignored by a member state," Rice said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060427/ap_on_re_mi_ea/nato_foreign_ministers



US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice attends the informal meeting of foreign ministers from NATO member states in Sofia. The escalating crisis over Iran's nuclear plans threatened to overshadow a meeting of NATO foreign ministers including Rice, on the eve of a UN deadline.(AFP/Dimitar Dilkoff)

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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:21 PM
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1. Credibility? Rice? Now THAT'S Rich!
This people either have an incredible tendency towards irony, or they are just plain stupid.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:49 PM
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28. She is just plain stupid
And a Real war Criminal

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 12:35 AM
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58. Yeah, I mean, WE didn't get the UN on board re: Iraq...
...and this idiot is talking about a member not following the UN?

:crazy:

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Sal316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:22 PM
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2. Second verse, same as the first
C'mon! Sing it with me!

I’m Henry the 8th I am,
Henry the 8th I am, I am,
I got married to the widow next door,
She’s been married 7 times before,
And every one was a Henry (Henry),
She wouldn’t have a Willy or a Sam (no Sam)
I’m her 8th old man I Henry,
Henry the 8th I am

Second verse same as the first
I’m Henry the 8th I am,
Henry the 8th I am, I am,
I got married to the widow next door,
She’s been married 7 times before,
And every one was a Henry (Henry),
She wouldn’t have a Willy or a Sam (no Sam)
I’m her 8th old man I Henry,
Henry the 8th I am


(repeat ad nauseam)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:23 PM
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4. omg!
That is Exactly what was going through my head as I read this! I almost put it in the post!

:)
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:23 PM
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6. They can't even be bothered to change the play book.
Our vile dunces are just going through the motions same as last time. The attack is scheduled.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:23 PM
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3. UN's?? How about the USA's........what a dip
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:25 PM
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10. My thoughts exactly ... we need to repair OUR credibility
before we start attacking some other organization's.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:23 PM
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5. man...
talk about Deja Vu...

now where have I heard this before...?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:24 PM
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7. Bet we could find almost a verbatim quote about Iraq.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 02:37 PM
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34. How about one from W himself
Aired September 19, 2002 - 10:01 ET


At the United Nations Security Council, it is very important that the members understand that the credibility of the United Nations is at stake, that the Security Council must be firm in its resolve to deal with a true threat to world peace -- and that is Saddam Hussein. But the United Nations Security Council must work with the United States and Britain and other concerned parties to send a clear message that we expect Saddam to disarm.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0209/19/se.01.html
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 02:52 PM
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35. Oh SWEET!
:rofl:

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 04:52 PM
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39. Good snag....n/t
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:24 PM
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8. LOL, Gee, I thought the UN credibility was at risk depending on
Iraq, now it's Iran, next it will be.....? I would have said the only credibility at risk is that of the US except the bush admin has NO credibility left to lose.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:24 PM
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9. Wait a minute... A Bush-drone is questioning someone else's credibility?
That's a real knee-slapper. I'll bet that the punchline has a 10 kiloton yield, and that there are a bunch of them.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:25 PM
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11. We've heard this before....
Why should we believe her THIS time?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:25 PM
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12. Or the UN will be "irrelevant",right? (I've heard this song before)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:31 PM
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18. yes indeed
it won't be long now. :(
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:49 PM
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41. The UN is only relevant when Bushco wants something
Otherwise it's "the chatterbox", to be mocked and ridiculed.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:27 PM
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13. "it cannot have its will ...ignored by a member state"
You mean, like when the US took it upon itself to attack Iraq despite the fact that the UN was insisting on letting the weapons inspectors complete their task?

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:27 PM
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14. oh give us a break already.
wolf, wolf, wolf
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:28 PM
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15. They don't even bother to change the words in their war-building
charade. I wish the UN would tell her to STFU and step aside, civilization is on the march and doesn't want to put up with your nonsense anymore. The problem is, they're a voting body, if we can bully and/or bribe other nations into siding with us there's not much hope for civilization at all.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:29 PM
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16. Yes, I too thought it sounded familiar here is GWboosh*
He used most of this session to try to send the message to skeptics to say, look, now that Saddam Hussein is letting weapons inspectors back inside of Iraq, perhaps we do not need any new U.N. Security Council Resolution, the president's message was very clear. He said that the credibility of the United Nations is at stake, and then here, he said the message again, if the U.N. won't deal with Iraq, he says that the U.S. and some of our friends will. So the president really trying to put pressure, Fredricka, on countries such as Russia and France, countries which have indicated perhaps there is not a need for a new U.N. resolution. The president saying, oh yes, there is a need, and he wants their support right now, or he says, the U.S. will act alone

TOO OUTRAGED FOR WORDS!

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0209/19/se.01.html
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:32 PM
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19. The mal-administration's historical revisionists would prefer that
we forget what we know.

:toast:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:30 PM
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17. These mutants are beyond belief! Echoes 2002 and 2003
Bush: U.N. Credibility at Stake

Aired September 19, 2002 - 10:01 ET

At the United Nations Security Council, it is very important that the members understand that the credibility of the United Nations is at stake, that the Security Council must be firm in its resolve to deal with a true threat to world peace -- and that is Saddam Hussein. But the United Nations Security Council must work with the United States and Britain and other concerned parties to send a clear message that we expect Saddam to disarm.


and

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031119-1.html

November 19, 2003

The United Nations has no more compelling advocate than your Prime Minister, who at every turn has championed its ideals and appealed to its authority. He understands, as well, that the credibility of the U.N. depends on a willingness to keep its word and to act when action is required.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:33 PM
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20. Yep, and Iraq had nukes, right Condiliar?
This witch preaching about credibility has just about pegged my irony meter.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:42 PM
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25. What does the U.N. think about the U.S. helping India along with
its nuclear program?
Several countries such as South Africa, Argentina and Brazil are asking about the implications if Iran is prevented from converting uranium as the treaty allows it to. Tehran could challenge the Security Council on why it should be singled out when the United States, the very country that accused it of wanting to make nuclear weapons, is helping India develop its nuclear program. Ironically, unlike India, Iran signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. What's at stake here is not only Iran's credibility but the credibility of the United States. And also the credibility of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty itself.
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:34 PM
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21. The hell? Did they do use a search and replace on the Iraq speech?
I'd swear it was the same as this except for a letter change.

Listen boyo's you all may be so drugged up that you can't remember what the hell you did last year but sweet jesus don't assume everybody's like you.

Sweet babbling mother of god. It's this kind of gibberish that tests ones faith. That this tool can stand in front of cameras and say something like this and god doesn't instantly send a winged Camel to shit on her head makes it hard to keep faith in existence of an almighty - in a just world, under a just god, she, her "husband" *, Rumsfeld, Deadshot and the whole rotten sick crew of greedy bastards would have been squirted out of existence like a watermelon seed (nods to Kliban for that image) but no - they have scads of people who want only to lick their shoes and are treated with deference and respect by people who should be pointing hooting their derision.

it gets to you
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 04:23 PM
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38. well stated!
Even freethinkers would welcome winged camels (on such a mission) at this point. I know I would.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 01:47 AM
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59. Thank You Bob3 Malignant Narcissists Are Exhausting
You made me laugh this morning yet I still feel like weeping.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:34 PM
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22. Man that really burns me up!
The UN is not about asserting it's will by force. The idea is to build a consensus and therefore the "will" of the UN is merely a reflection of the will of it's members. If the members cannot arrive at consensus, then the UN has little function in resolving disputes, and we shouldn't expect them to be some sort of Superforce that can oppose any wrongdoing in the universe with overwhelming force. It's just absurd. It's not what they do.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:36 PM
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23. boy, she sure is some sweet cookie!! what a jackas*
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:36 PM
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24. in order to be CREDIBLE? The organization the Bushes tried to destroy?
They want the UN to act, but only the way we insist they do.
"Sit! Heel! Fetch! Issue a threat of sanctions! Start a boycotte!"
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:43 PM
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26. What 'credibility'? You idiots already destroyed any credibility the
US had.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:48 PM
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27. Ignoring the will of
the security council is Bolton's number 1 objective--and at whose direction, C*ndiliar?
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:50 PM
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29. UN must be shaking in their boots.
Talk about the heighth of hypocrisy.
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walkon Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 02:09 PM
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30. Same ole BS
War's a comin'.
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LoKnLoD Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 02:20 PM
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31. I know a place
to shove that "Mushroom Cloud" of yours Condi. Can't wait till I never see your mug again.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 02:21 PM
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32. She doesnt want
the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.
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grottieyottie Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 02:31 PM
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33. Well...
Fuck you and your bombs and your torture rooms and your phosphorus skin peeling explosions and your war from ahigh - you can't face the military industrialist creation that they warned you about.

You voted it - you put it in place. You are creating a world of hate.

You are American.

There's nothing. NOTHING. That you should be proud of. Or be 'patriotic' about.

Your machine kills. And that's what you pay for. A killing machine.

Wave that flag.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 03:03 PM
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36. Who's credibility is at stake? Oh, that's right...we no longer have any.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 03:55 PM
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37. She has said her piece and has not interest in further discussions
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:19 PM
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40. she is the LAST diplomat who should be talking about 'credibility'
what a joke. some real twisted logic there too though i'm surprised she (or bolton) didn't try this before. this whiny ranting is meant ONLY for AMERICAN ears. they know the other nations will blow it off as propaganda.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:14 PM
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42. Credible with whom?
Bush and Rice? It is to laugh.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:29 PM
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43. A statement about credibility from the non-credible
That's funny.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:43 PM
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44. Yeah, but she's not The Decider.
Unfortunately, she's probably speaking for His Deciderness.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:43 PM
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45. Hey, Condi, you still wearing those shoes you bought
while New Orleans was drowning? Don't tell us about credibility.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 07:30 PM
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46. Condi is right.
If -- in the wake of US flaunting of the UN and international law with the invasion of Iraq, the Security Council gives in to the demands of the Bush administration in regards to Iran -- the UN WILL indeed lose credibility.

(Condi just has it backwards, that's all)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 07:36 PM
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48. That's her job. n/t
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 07:34 PM
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47. Sophist, Bullshitter
Lying war criminal hack.
... degenerate felon.

lies again
lies again
again
again
number 9
number 9
number 9
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 07:56 PM
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49. I often wonder how
we are going to deal with this utterly humiliating period of our history in the future.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 08:30 PM
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50. That's what you said about Iraq, you fucking animal.
And it you, your government, and your country which lost credibility.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 08:36 PM
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51. 5th Rec. Outrageous!
Credibility? We don' need no steekin' CREDIBILITY...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 08:41 PM
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52. Stop bashing the UN; your credibility is 'at risk'.
And more. :nuke:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 08:43 PM
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53. No, Gorgonzola - it's YOU and your REPUKES who have the "problem"
You and your bunch of WAR CRIMNALS have absolutely NO CREDIBILITY - never have - it's just that now, the rest of the world knows this salienht point!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 08:47 PM
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54. This is almost a formula, isn't it?
1. Pick the next country to be invaded. (Check!)

2. Find something you don't like about that country and magnify it a hundred-fold. Mention repeatedly. (Check!)

3. Get all the Right-Wing commentator on your side (Check! {not too hard, is it?})

4. Try to gather international allies (Big failure this time. Oh, well, moving on...)

5. Demand that the UN do something or it will face discredit and shame. (Checkaroonie!)

6. Falsify evidence (Work in progress....)
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:21 PM
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55. Just think she is considered the intellectual of the Bush Administration.
I swear if she ever becomes commissioner of the NFL I will never watch another NFL game, buy anything associated with the NFL, or step foot in a stadium. A total NFL boycott.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:26 PM
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56. That line doesn't work any more, Condi
Now report to The Hague.



The Palace of Peace
The Hague
Home of the International Criminal Court

Photo from the Dossier Nederland (The Netherlands)


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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:53 PM
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57. Miz Rice you are a credit to your race
"We don't want her she's too evil for us" The Bros on the corner.
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