BBC (Friday): Rice denies US is world's jailer

[Jack Rabbit]

From the BBC Online
Dated Friday March 31 14:35 GMT (7:31 am PST)

Rice denies US is world's jailer

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has said that no-one should doubt America's commitment to justice and the rule of law . . . .

Her comments came during a visit to the UK city of Blackburn. The tour has sparked anti-war protests.

"President Bush has stated unequivocally, as have I, that the United States is a nation of laws and we do not tolerate any American at home or abroad engaging in acts of torture," Ms Rice said.

"We also have no desire to be the world's jailer. We want the terrorists we capture to stand trial for their crimes," she said.

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Comment from JR:

It is utter hypocrisy for Dr. Rice to go to a foreign country to proclaim the United States a nation of laws while at home she represents a putative leader whose power rests on a stolen election and who claims some mythic constitutional authority to violate any law that doesn't suit him.

It is utter hypocrisy for Dr. Rice to say that we will not tolerate torture when the White House memos told this same tyrant that he has the authority to authorize torture and he proceeded to do so.

It is utter hypocrisy for Dr. Rice to go abroad and talk of freedom while the Patriot Act erodes civil liberties in America.

It is utter hypocrisy for Dr. Rice to claim that America does not want to be the worlds when, in addition to torturing detainees, it puts them before kangaroo courts with no right to see the evidence against them.

It is a sad sign of how far America has fallen that Dr. Rice, who was one of many high-ranking officials in the Bush regime to willfully lie to the American people about Saddam's military capabilities in order to garner popular and congressional support for an unnecessary colonial war, should be so smug talking about somebody else's commission of war crimes.

[saltpoint]

1. The steady impression left by this administration is that the U.S.

runs torture centers in various places around the globe.

There are photos.

[saigon68]

17. And the photos are PRETTY GRAPHIC of Murder and Torture

[VegasWolf]

2. In other news, Rice denies sky is blue. nt

[The Magistrate]

3. Well Said, Sir!

Rice's statements are bloody-minded impudence. It is one thing for a dive year old with crumbs in his shirt to deny he took the cookies, and quite another for an official to deny her minions engage when the papers approving torture at the highest level of her government, and the accounts of men subjected to it, are all on public record.

[Jack Rabbit]

18. Thank you, Sir

I value your opinion.

[gratuitous]

4. Two words, Dr. Liar: Guantanamo Bay

Two more words: Abu Ghraib.

This administration's credibility is in tatters all over the world, and would be in the United States if we had a functioning Fourth Estate. Instead, a tiny minority of yammerers are out in force every day, persuading the gullible that down is really up, and black is really white.

[ninkasi]

5. How can she lie

so often, every day, in fact? These are not little lies, either, they are huge lies, and she lies knowing full well that too many of know the truth. I guess since she and the other criminals in the Bush cabal know that their lies will be unchallenged, it must give her some sick thrill to be able to speak in public, to an audience who knows full well she's lying. Her boss does it constantly, and except for Helen Thomas, other press members are too craven to point this out.

[tanyev]

6. Nope. They're "tactical errors".

She's freely admitted they've made thousands of them. Hopefully a court of law will someday explain the difference to her.

[951-Riverside]

7. Rice Gets the Cold Shoulder in Britain

BLACKBURN, England (AP) — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Friday that "by all means" anyone who opposes U.S. foreign policy or her weekend visit to Britain should speak their mind. Demonstrators organized marches to call America's top diplomat a war criminal and human rights abuser as she joined British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw on a tour of his adopted northern England working-class home.

"People have the right to protest, that's what democracy is all about," Rice told reporters at a British aerospace plant. "I would say to those who wish to protest, by all means."

Rice said she was not surprised by the depth of opposition in Britain, President Bush's strongest ally in Iraq, to the war and other American policies.

"I've seen it in every city I've visited in the United States," Rice said. "People have strong views."

http://charter.net/news/read.php?ps=1012&id=12690519&_LT=HOME_LARSDCCLM_UNEWS

[Olney Blue]

8. So she's admitting that the Chimperor is hated in the U.S. too?

:rofl:

[Judi Lynn]

9. Rice trip story: Rice admits "thousands" of errors in Iraq

Rice admits "thousands" of errors in Iraq
By Gideon Long and Sue Pleming
36 minutes ago

BLACKBURN, England (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice accepted on Friday the United States had probably made thousands of errors in Iraq but defended the overall strategy of removing Saddam Hussein.

Local Muslims and anti-war activists told Rice to "Go Home" when British counterpart Jack Straw earlier led her on a tour of his home town of Blackburn in the industrial northwest, an area which rarely plays host to overseas politicians.

"Yes, I know we have made tactical errors, thousands of them," she said in answer to a question over whether lessons had been learned since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

"I believe strongly that it was the right strategic decision, that Saddam had been a threat to the international community long enough," she added.
(snip/...)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060331/us_nm/britain_usa_rice_dc;_ylt=A9G_RxSMVS1ED2MA_Q0WIr0F;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

[Jack Rabbit]

10. Related thread

Also in LBN. Please click here.

[Felix Mala]

11. Hasn't she twice been put in charge of the Iraq disaster?

Guess she's not kidding herself about the disaster part, just the "we can still win" part... If only the American media would show more pictures of Istanbul to show how peaceful Iraq is...

[Jack Rabbit]

14. Istanbul?

Another example, like Madrid and London, of how the invasion of Iraq made the world safe from international terrorism



Istanbul, November 21, 2003

[BIgJohn83]

12. Ahhh England...Tony Blair=Dubya's Mini Me... nt

[951-Riverside]

13. Poodle... Yes Bitch.... Yes Mini Me.... No n/t

[saigon68]

28. Lap Dog Tony

[Canuckistanian]

16. They don't have "strong views", Condi

They hate your fucking guts.

[bdamomma]

35. these stupid surprise visits

they have these surprise visits, because they know someone will assault them, for example condi, rumsfeld when they go to Iraq. I say keep these thugs on the run.

[pinniped]

25. I'm glad the criminals are spouting this line again:

"People have the right to protest, that's what democracy is all about," Condolseeza told reporters at a British aerospace plant. "I would say to those who wish to protest, by all means."

Those nice citizens in Venezuela were just voicing their opinions to that stupid ambassador last week.

[Metta]

15. Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?

Groucho Marx.

[maryallen]

19. That's how "Sleazy" and "El Stupido" do it:

They simply announce that "the American people want blah, blah, blah;" or
"The American people like blah, blah, blah."

It's a pretty neat trick if you can get away with it.
Must not work in Europe.
Europeans must be smarter than we are or
maybe they have a competent, not totally sold-out press corps.

[bdamomma]

36. Europeans

know about our press and how shielded it is from the truth getting to the american people, that is why there are so many uninformed americans walking around.

[sweetheart]

20. sending an a** hole to blackburn lankashire

Now they know how many assholes it take to fill the albert hall.
She'd love to turn you on.... ;-)

[WhiteTara]

21. I first saw this story this morning under the VOA

headline as told by Michael Drudge (Does Matt have a brother? or WTF is this?)

http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-03-31-voa25.cfm
"We have no desire to be the world's jailer," she said. "We want the terrorists that we capture to stand trial for their crimes."

However, Rice indicated there is strong public opinion within the United States to support whatever measures are necessary to prevent a repetition of the September 11, 2001, attacks.

"Our citizens will judge us harshly, if we release a captured terrorist before we are absolutely certain that he does not possess information that could prevent a future attack, or even worse, if we meet that terrorist again on the battlefield," she said.

snip

British anti-war protesters demonstrated at various venues the two officials visited Friday. Rice cited the protests to pitch her policy of promoting democracy around the world.

"People have the right to protest," she said. "That's what democracy is all about, and I'm just delighted that, in more and more of the world, those rights to speak your mind are being extended to other people, for whom that right has not been there."

They always say it's peoples right to protest, but of course it never influences them at all. Just some quaint social custom that the imperial majesties tolerate.

[dchill]

22. A Nation of Laws...

just waiting to be broken, circumvented, ignored, re-written after the fact, belittled as "quaint," and last, but not least, obeyed by everyone else.

[saigon68]

29. MY LITTLE FRIEND

[Mika]

23. She is stating (lying) their position is the one they accuse the Dems of.

Stating that it is a law enforcement issue with arrests and trials.

[leesa]

24. So the OBVIOUS question is why aren't they allowed to have lawyers and

stand trial? Why are they not charged with any crimes?

She is a really bad liar...who could have known they would have used planes as missiles and flown them into buildings? Certainly not the National Security Director who was surely aware of the war game Cheney was running on 9-11 of that very scenario to cover up the real 9-11.

[Blaq Dem]

26. I wonder what she tells her uncles?

Chances are Condomsleezie Rice has a relative sitting in jail right now.

[lamp_shade]

27. I laughed out loud...

A few weeks ago, a senior citizen (a lady) called into CSPAN and mentioned that she personally referred to Rice as "Saint Condolezza of the Mushroom Cloud". Ohhhh I laughed. Did anybody else hear it?

[Demeter]

30. Poor Condi: A Walking, Public Embarrassment

She doesn't have to have nightmares of appearing in public naked--she got her new wardrobe from the same tailor as her Emperor/Husband. That's co-dependence and enabling, not loyalty (and really bad taste, but we knew that already.)

[newspeak]

31. so, now is she blaming the American people

for how they treat prisoners? They have to be tough and go against the Geneva Convention and civil law because it's what we want? She better not be blaming us for what they're doing. These pack of jackals think that "the buck does not even slow down here."

[saigon68]

32. HOW ABOUT Rice denies US is world's TORTURER

[bdamomma]

33. geez, what a

liar,geez what hypocrites these people are. they just keep on lying, no remorse they show for nothing.

[coalition_unwilling]

34. No matter how often or how shrilly they lie, they cannot

morph their lies into truth. THE TRUTH ALWAYS PREVAILS!

[truthisfreedom]

37. condi opens mouth, blurts out truth plus a few other words...

she should just shut up and go home.