AP: Justice Ginsburg Reveals Details of (death)Threat

[DeepModem Mom]

Justice Ginsburg Reveals Details of Threat
Mar 15
By GINA HOLLAND
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON


Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she and former Justice Sandra Day O'Connor have been the targets of death threats from the "irrational fringe" of society, people apparently spurred by Republican criticism of the high court.

Ginsburg revealed in a speech in South Africa last month that she and O'Connor were threatened a year ago by someone who called on the Internet for the immediate "patriotic" killing of the justices....

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Ginsburg said the Web threat was apparently prompted by legislation in Congress, filed by Republicans, that would bar judges from relying on foreign laws or court decisions.

"It is disquieting that they have attracted sizable support. And one not-so-small concern _ they fuel the irrational fringe," she said in a speech posted online by the court earlier this month and first reported Wednesday by LegalTimes.com.

According to Ginsburg, someone in a Web site chat room wrote: "Okay commandoes, here is your first patriotic assignment ... an easy one. Supreme Court Justices Ginsburg and O'Connor have publicly stated that they use (foreign) laws and rulings to decide how to rule on American cases. This is a huge threat to our Republic and Constitutional freedom. ... If you are what you say you are, and NOT armchair patriots, then those two justices will not live another week."...


http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/15/D8GC8IRO4.html

[AndyA]

1. Nice. very nice. Shows what we're dealing with.

Wackos. All over the place. Including the Oval Office.

[wordpix2]

2. scary shit

[Demeter]

3. Did They Check Clarence Thomas's Phone Calls?

Just asking.

[NanceGreggs]

5. ... or Pat Robertson's internet activity?

[movonne]

4. I really believe these are Repug operatives hired by the administration

to go after and threaten,Supreme Court justices, Air America talk show hosts, the advertisers on AA, these nuts who call in to these shows, and any liberal speaking out in public...

[Mind_your_head]

6. Isn't/shouldn't this be the sort of thing that authorities can use

the Patriot Act (and other recently enacted 'tools') for - to find out the people making these threats?

If these types of threats are aren't stopped, then the only type of people who would be 'safe' sitting on a bench would be people who belong to the "irrational fringe" of society.

[Rose Siding]

7. Calling Ronnie Earle

Does DeLay have an alibi?

[Trevelyan]

28. nice timing? -- Court orders DeLay subpoenas halted

nice timing?

Court orders DeLay subpoenas halted Mar. 14, 2006 at 11:07AM

U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas, won a legal skirmish when a court invalidated 30 prosecution subpoenas and ordered that no more be issued, reports said. A Texas State Court of Appeals ruled Monday that all prosecution subpoenas must wait until it rules on an appeal brought by the state.The appeal, on which oral arguments will be held March 22, contests a judge's dismissal of conspiracy charges against the former U.S. House majority leader involving Texas' 2002 legislative elections.

"All of those subpoenas are worthless," DeLay's lawyer, Dick DeGuerin, told the Austin (Texas) American-Statesman. DeGuerin said he would make sure all who were subpoenaed get the ruling "so they can thumb their nose" at Travis County, Texas, District Attorney Ronnie Earle.

"The point here is Ronnie Earle is abusing his office," another DeLay attorney, Matt Hennessy, told the Houston Chronicle. An Earle spokesman said prosecutors, who were trying to get ready for DeLay's eventual trial, would abide by the ruling.

washtimes.com/upi/2006031...-2605r.htm http://p216.ezboard.com

[tabasco]

8. Referring to foreign law as an aid to decide cases ...

is a danger to the republic, but murdering Supreme Court justices isn't.

This is how these wackos think.

[lovuian]

9. Not surprised at all!!!

and where are their protection???

[Hobarticus]

10. Will the Great Uniter speak out against this?

Nope, he loves a good brawl.

[Horse with no Name]

11. I wonder if this was the reason that O'Connor stepped down

I wonder if they threatened her sick husband?
Bunch of sleazy bastards.:mad:

[Burried News]

12. Ginsburg and O'Connor were probably influenced by the Magna

Carta. Yeah let's kill anyone who supports Habeus Corpus. :sarcasm:

[It was not a pretzel]

30. AND THEY ARE RIGHT

America shoudln't have anything to do with Magna Carta, Carta was a Dem :silly:

[GuvWurld]

13. I think I saw Ann Coulter's mug on the wall at the post office

I drew a mustachio

:rofl:

[chelsea0011]

14. Homeland Security should be all over this. It sounds like organized

home grown terrorism.

[oscarguy]

21. It`s been open season on Democrats for years. Paul Wellstone....

remember him ? The plane`s remains where removed to some federally located/controlled site and on and on. ...Oscar

[jean]

15. Justice Ginsburg reports the death threats and O'Connor speaks out

warning of dictatorship. This seems like a significant one-two punch from the lady justices.

[Doctor_J]

25. O'Connor can take her contrition and pin a rose on it

she's as responsible for the 4th Reich as anyone IN THE WORLD

[jean]

26. Yes, she is. But I prefer her being vocal than silent.

[goforit]

16. Remember when a beam fell right infront of O'Conner (missed by 2 feet)?

Yep....a signature attempted murder directly from the
executive office!!!!

[elehhhhna]

17. Pat Robertson was urging poeple to pray for their DEATHS. on TV!

[oscarguy]

20. WTF is with Pat Robertson?He has made so many outrageous...

statements over the years I do not understand why he has not been charged with publicly promoting criminal activity. I guess if it is for a RIGHT WINGNUT cause you can encourage anything at all. My favorite statements by him were when he was running for President and described himself as a Marine Combat Officer. There is no such designation in the Marine Corps. You were either a Marine Officer who was in combat or you were not. He WAS NOT. It all came out because notable Marines who knew him made public statements to that effect.Whatever ...Oscar

[stepnw1f]

18. I say We RICO the Whole GOP

Bankrupt their asses until our National debt is paid off. Let's be real "Robin Hoods".

[goforit]

23. LOL!!!........We also need lots of Little Johns!!!

[oscarguy]

19. 21st Century Nazi-ism ? I really do not know what to make of Right...

Wingnuts anymore. This is simular to what Hitlerites ENCOURAGED and DID during Hitler`s take over of Germany. The same goes for Joseph Stalin and other like minded people. I do not think President Bush is involved in this. It is bad enough that some of our fellow Americans would encourage such things. ...Oscar

[serryjw]

22. I pray that she and Justice Stevens

have loyal & competent body guards. I have nightmares over Pelican's Brief all to frequently

[Doctor_J]

24. Look for an arrest in this case

right after the Anthrax bomber is brought to justice. Why would the GOP lock up their own voters?

[Ben Ceremos]

27. OMLG!!!

And where do these killer "morans" think that law comes from? Ever hear of the Code of Hammurabi? Magna Carta? Do these pinheads even know what the history of jurisprudence means? Stupid is a quality found in abundance in patriots with guns.

[Trevelyan]

29. O'Connor was almost killed in a July 4, 2003 ceremony.

http://p216.ezboard.com Check out the media control here. Looks like a failed attempted assassination gone down the memory hole.

Not many people know that Supreme Court justice Sandra Day O'Connor was nearly killed on July 4 of 2003 in Philadelphia during a ceremonial opening of the National Constitution Center. What a psy-ops event that would have been.

All the news articles have been scrubbed from online.:wtf:
I read the interviews when they were still available online with the stage hand union members who said that they warned that a 600 pound set piece was dangerous.People were sent to the hospital and one was knocked unconscious.

The stage hands were used as patsies by an outside ontractor who was warned by the stage hands that the set piece was dangerous. www.nbc10.com/4july/2312737/detail.html

Quote: National Constitution Center Ceremonies Marred By AccidentIndependence Day Kicks Off With Opening Of Center Dedicated To ConstitutionPOSTED: 11:14 am EDT July 4, 2003
UPDATED: 8:57 pm EDT July 7, 2003

PHILADELPHIA --FOURTH OF JULY The end of the ceremonies to open the new National Constitution Center in downtown Philadelphia were marred by an accident as Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor and other participants in the ceremony were pulling the ribbons to officially open the Constitution Center.

When the ribbons were pulled, a wooden arch framing the stage fell forward instead of backward, as it was reportedly designed to do.:evilfrown:
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www.hallwatch.org/news/10...index_html

How Well Did the Press Cover the Constitution Center?
By Ed Goppelt Tuesday, 07/08/03
....
Would a USA Today reader even realize that a Supreme Court Justice was almost killed on national television? Only in the fifteenth paragraph of USA Today's story does the paper get around to mentioning that dignitaries "got a scare during the ceremony."

In my opinion some of the best reporting on the story comes from the Philadelphia Inquirer. See Schogol's 7/6/03 stories on the accident and previous black eyes to the City's reputation. Soteropoulos and Twyman's piece describing the scenery's fall 7/4/03 and Down, Wood & Tanfani's 7/6/03 report on the reasons for the frame's fall.

But even the Inquirer appears unwilling at times to acknowledge the seriousness of what happened.

For example, officials injuries are consistently characterized as minor, not just by the officials--this is to be expected--but by the reporters themselves.

* "none had serious injuries" (Inquirer-Downs, Wood & Tanfani)
* "It struck and slightly injured Street, Specter and Joseph M. Torsella"
(Inquirer-Schogol)

Why not let the facts speak for themselves?

* Of the five people injured, four of them considered their condition serious enough to seek medical attention from area hospitals.

* NCC CEO Joe Torsella lost consciousness after being hit on the head. See Kitty Caparella's 7/7/03 story

Some news organizations got basic facts wrong. For example, what did Justice O'Connor say when the frame collapsed around her and other dignitaries?

According to Channel Six O'Connor said "we could have been hit, bumped." I was watching the Channel Six's coverage of the ceremony. I heard O'Connor say something different: "we could all have been killed there."

ALL THESE ARTICLES HAVE BEEN SCRUBBED:

* "It struck and slightly injured Street, Specter :grr: and Joseph M. Torsella"

ALL THESE ARTICLES HAVE THE LINK BROKEN:
(Just the Philadelphia Inquirer?)

A Supreme Court Justice was almost killed during the dedication ceremony. If reporters had covered the Center seriously would we have been spared this near disaster? I don't know, but I do think the press can and must do a better job of covering the Center.

The Stories

* ROSE DEWOLF 'Multitude of missteps' led to mishap on July 4 (Philadelphia Daily News, 08/01/03)
* JOSEPH TANFANI Frame fall blamed on builder (Philadelphia Inquirer, 08/01/03)
* GAR JOSEPH Lawsuits unlikely after stage mishap (Philadelphia Daily News, 07/10/03)
* MICHAEL SMERCONISH FRAME FELL, NOT PHILLY'S ATTITUDE
(Philadelphia Daily News, 07/10/03)
* TOM FITZGERALD JOSEPH TANFANI Union denies role in collapse at center (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/09/03)
* DAVE DAVIES Stagehands: We had no role in frame collapse (Daily News, 07/09/03)
* PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER Special Report: National Constitution Center (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/09/03)
* TOM FITZGERALD Designer of fallen frame apologizes (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/08/03)
* Editorial | Framing the issue (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/08/03)
* PHILLY FRAMED AGAIN (Philadelphia Daily News, 07/08/03)
* JILL PORTER Let's put mishap behind us; start acting like a world-class city (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/08/03)
* DAWN FALLIK Center chief: Officials pulled on sturdy ties (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/07/03)
* KITTY CAPARELLA Center chief took brunt of collapse (Philadelphia Daily News, 07/07/03)
* MARC SCHOGOL Another Thumb in the City's Eye (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/06/03)
* JERE DOWNS SAM WOOD JOSEPH TANFANI Fallen Frame Was Unsecured (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/06/03)
* MARC SCHOGOL Center's grand opening, accident mark the day (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/06/03)
* AP Dignitaries Injured after Stage Mishap (Channel 6, 07/05/03) MICHAEL BURKHART Constitution Center has gala opening (Courier Post, 07/05/03)
* SUSAN SNYDER A 'cowgirl from Arizona' receives the Liberty Medal (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/05/03)
* BOB WARNER O'Connor gets medal on 'amazing day' Philadelphia Daily News, 07/05/03)
* BOB WARNER July 4th -and what a bang! (Daily News, 7/05/03)
* AP U.S. celebrates 227th birthday (USA Today, 07/04/03)
* ACEL MOORE Legacy of hypocrisy isn't in the display at Constitution Center (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/04/03)
* JULIE STROIBER Public receives few tickets to award ceremony (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/04/03)
* Mishap Mars Opening of Constitution Museum (The New York Times, 07/04/03)
* JACQUELINE SOTEROPOULOS ANTHONY TWYMAN Unscripted Accident
Mars Ceremony (Philadelphia Inquirer, 07/04/03)

One link works. USA Today. Look at the minimization.
Looks like the July 4th flag waving for the war campaign was too important to give any weight (pun intended) to the near death of a Supreme Court Judge. www.usatoday.com/news/nat...july_x.htm

Posted 7/4/2003 7:06 PM Updated 7/5/2003 2:42 AM
U.S. celebrates 227th birthday
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — The celebrations offered snapshots of the nation at hundred year intervals: Troops coming home from Iraq hugged loved-ones for the first time in months, President Bush marked the centennial of aviation, and Americans feted the birth of their independence 227 years ago.

The U.S. flag waves in the breeze as Fourth of July fireworks light up the night sky in Temple, Texas.
By Jerry Larson, Temple Daily Telegram, APAt Forbes Field in Topeka, Kan., parents, spouses and children of 135 National Guard soldiers, who were dispatched to Iraq five months ago, held emotional reunions.

"I'm not sure that any of us really appreciates the struggles George Washington went through in Valley Forge. This kind of personalizes those sacrifices," said Bill Burkett of Muskogee, Okla., whose daughter Stephanie was among the returning troops. Other troops came home Friday to North Carolina, Wisconsin and Maine.

Anecita Hudson, whose son was a POW in Iraq, began celebrating the holiday Wednesday at Fort Bliss, Texas, where Army Spc. Joseph Hudson and other former POWs received medals for bravery. The Hudsons were back in their hometown of Alamogordo, N.M., for the Fourth of July.

"Here in America, I really see that people are happy on the Independence Day," Anecita Hudson said. "It's really kind of overwhelming to see them all celebrating."

In Dayton, Ohio, President Bush climbed a flag-draped stage flanked by military jets to praise the work of U.S. troops and celebrate the 100th anniversary of flight in the ometown of the Wright brothers. "Today and everyday, the people of this land are grateful for their freedom, and we are proud to call ourselves citizens of the United States of America," Bush told a cheering crowd on a tarmac at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

Natalie Neal, 39, of nearby West Chester, Ohio, was up before dawn to secure a place in the crowd of thousands. "There's not a better way to spend the Fourth of July than with your military and with your president," Neal said.

[druidity33]

32. i wonder...

If any of the stagehands have died mysterious deaths in the three or so years since this event. I used to be a roadie for a local club and saw some things that NO ONE would want me taking about (mostly drugs and assinine behavior)... but nothing this overtly suspicious. This sounds sinister.
:scared:

[Marnieworld]

33. I live in PA

and I had no idea that this happened. These are scary times we live in.

[Catrina]

34. Wow! I never heard of this ~ I wonder if that's why SDOC decided to

retire! I wondered why she was leaving ~ has a SC justice ever resigned before? No one really questioned her convenient retirement.

It's interesting too that Judge Ginsberg is speaking out and specifically mentioning Republicans and their followers as the culprits, right after Sandra Day O'Connor leaves. What was done about these threats I wonder?

Maybe Ginsberg is, in a way, asking for help? How on earth can the court make decisions when they are under threat like this?

I wouldn't doubt that that was no accident. Was it ever investigated and why did they say there would no lawsuits?

This administration has been spying on peace activists, have they been spying on rightwing groups who were KNOWN to have threatened SC justices? And the press as usual, is covering it all up.

And, one more thing. In light of all this, why were Ann Coulter's suggestions to poison Justice Stephens not taken way more seriously? I think that's what Justice Ginsberg is saying. That Republicans like Ann Coulter are rousing up the nutcases to threaten judges. It's interesting that she said this now ~

[UpInArms]

31. related: Justice Ginsburg reveals details of threat - rightwing wackos

http://www.beaufortgazette.com/24hour/politics/story/3230032p-11967461c.html

WASHINGTON (AP) - Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she and former Justice Sandra Day O'Connor have been the targets of death threats from the "irrational fringe" of society, people apparently spurred by Republican criticism of the high court.

Ginsburg revealed in a speech in South Africa last month that she and O'Connor were threatened a year ago by someone who called on the Internet for the immediate "patriotic" killing of the justices.

Security concerns among judges have been growing.

Conservative commentator Ann Coulter joked earlier this year that Justice John Paul Stevens should be poisoned. Over the past few months O'Connor has complained that criticism, mainly by Republicans, has threatened judicial independence to deal with difficult issues like gay marriage.

<snip>

Ginsburg said the Web threat was apparently prompted by proposals in Congress, filed by Republicans, that tell judges to stop relying on foreign laws or court decisions.

...more...

The rabid wingnuts are only spurred forward by the freaks that are controlling our Congress and Senate.

[Purveyor]

35. Ginsburg Faults GOP Critics, Cites a Threat From 'Fringe'

By Charles Lane
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 17, 2006; A03



Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg assailed the court's congressional critics in a recent speech overseas, saying their efforts "fuel" an "irrational fringe" that threatened her life and that of a colleague, former justice Sandra Day O'Connor.

Addressing an audience at the Constitutional Court of South Africa on Feb. 7, the 73-year-old justice, known as one of the court's more liberal members, criticized various Republican-proposed House and Senate measures that either decry or would bar the citation of foreign law in the Supreme Court's constitutional rulings. Conservatives often see the citing of foreign laws in court rulings as an affront to American sovereignty, adding to a list of grievances they have against judges that include rulings supporting abortion rights or gay rights.

Though the proposals do not seem headed for passage, Ginsburg said, "it is disquieting that they have attracted sizeable support. And one not-so-small concern -- they fuel the irrational fringe."

She then quoted from what she said was a "personal example" of this: a Feb. 28, 2005, posting in an Internet chat room that called on unnamed "commandoes" to ensure that she and O'Connor "will not live another week."

<snip>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/16/AR2006031601860.html?nav=hcmodule

[Canuckistanian]

36. That "fringe" is getting more and more mainstream

Thanks, "compassionate conservatives"!

[bostonbabs]

37. Ann Coulture

said some one should poison Justice Stevens not too long ago.....How dare Ginsburg call Ann fringe!....

[rodeodance]

38. whow Ruth--you go gal!! --they fuel the irrational fringe."

[NYC Liberal]

39. Those compassionate "Christians" are making death threats too

Culture of life and all!

[Up2Late]

40. I'd love to know what web site the treat was on...

...I can guess, but that all it would be, a guess.

[xxqqqzme]

41. Where do these rongwingwhackos think the

Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution came from anyway? These documents were not original thought. The founding fathers were educated, well read 'age of enlightenment' influenced persons.

I have really lost all tolerance for the willfully ignorant.