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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:42 PM
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Iraqis fear imminent civil war(rumors suggest Iraqis believe US behind it)

http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20060313-020759-8429r

Iraqis fear imminent civil war
By Pamela Hess
UPI Pentagon Correspondent

WASHINGTON -- Rumors in Iraq have a weight that government and even newspaper reports don't seem to carry, and the latest rumors suggest Iraqis believe a civil war is imminent and the United States secretly wants it to happen.

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That suggestion is contained in the March 10 edition of the "Baghdad Mosquito," a daily collection of "open source intelligence" culled from Iraqi newspapers, as well as rumors from a group of "knowledgeable" Iraqis.

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According to the bulletin, one of the rumors making the rounds is that U.S. Central Command Chief Gen. John Abizaid's expectation that more shrines would be attacked before the violence is over "prove that these attacks are part of an American plan."

"Some Iraqis believe that President Bush called Shiite and Sunni figures after the Samarra attack not to ensure stability but to ensure that the U.S. plan of starting a civil war is carried out," states another rumor reported by the Skeeter.

A civil war would allow the United States to bring back Saddam Hussein, a prospect the Skeeter suggests many would welcome.


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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:44 PM
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1. Time to send the talking points
to whoever's in charge of starting rumors in Iraq.

Just keep repeating.."There won't be a civil war...there won't be a civil war..."
There. Now don't you feel better?
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:57 PM
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2. That would be amazing.
... A civil war would allow the United States to bring back Saddam Hussein, a prospect the Skeeter suggests many would welcome...

No matter who caused it, wanted it, etc., if it happened, it would require more explanation and spin than ever seen or heard before.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:11 PM
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4. Saddam would repent and make the following speech:
For the good of all the Iraqi people and for the generations to come, I have put the oil ministry under the direct juristiction of the US White House. This will ensure that all decisions related to oil field development and sales are made by the White House, and all oil revenues go directly to the Iraqi people via the US government, thereby eliminating any chance of corruption. Oh, and the US can keep all of its military bases and build as many more as it likes -- of course, all for the benefit of the Iraqi people.
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keta11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:04 PM
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3. I dont blame them for believing that when the
Fox Jazeera Channel here comes up with foolish questions like - "Civil War in Iraq: Could it be a good thing"
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:42 PM
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6. I love your graphic!!!
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keta11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:57 PM
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9. Thanks. I "borrowed" it from another website that I read
every now and then.
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:20 PM
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5. everyone THERE knows that it's the U.S. covert ops death squads
Our American information indicates all this violence is perpetrated by these "vile" non Kriztchen Iraqi Musims upon each other over religious differences--the idea of a "Civil" war--
The continued presence of our miitary is absolutely necessary to the Corporate investment and for the eventual protecting and pumping out of the sweet petroleum resources...(they have a lot invested and are NOT about to allow for peace and free enterprise}.

regardless of what ABC/CNN/AP Wire reports- there are things going on behind the scenes--

Only the Iraqi citizens know too well of the mercenairies that walk unchecked, un-monitored, and answer to NO laws, who are going around bombing and killing innocent men women and children.

Why the hell do you think the citizens killed mercenaries and dragged them through the streets of Fallujah?- which our military responded by leveling the town and killing all life there-down to every every dog cat mouse and insect--remember the White Phosphorous? the Nerve Gas? all animals were belly up...including those 'heathen' animals who lived there.

And the idea that Negraponte and his Death Squads (generation II A-Rab killers) have a hand in recent bombings and massacres is "far fetched" and conspiracy theory ?
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:54 PM
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8. Everywhere Negroponte goes
deathsquads run by government connected militias appear.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:02 PM
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10. One would have to be terribly naive to believe otherwise.
I mean to believe the explanations reported via AP.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:12 PM
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12. If the US would get the hell out of Iraq
I bet the whole place would calm down and the Iraqi might have half a chance to rebuild their country that we have done so much to destroy.

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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:45 PM
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7. I read in the LA Times that there were many explosives in the Samarra
mosque -- and that it would have taken hours to set them in place. Who had that kind of access?? Insurgents? Americans?
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Padme Amidala Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:02 PM
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11. Of course the U.S. is behind it
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 04:04 PM by Padme Amidala
Where do you think the money disappeared to? Nw, they want an exit strategy so they can attack Iran. This is their way to free up some troops for Iran while still maintaining a way to keep a force there.
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:21 PM
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13. Don't buy it. How does an unstable Iraq help the U.S.?
/nm
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:51 PM
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14. A possible rationale
People will grow weary of civil war, and accept U.S. hegemony for the sake of security. I am not saying it is right, just that some sectors of the neo-conservative community probably think this is the case.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 05:23 PM
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15. Michael Ledeen: "The real issue is not whether, but how to destabilize"
Michael Ledeen former US undersecretary of state and a leading neoconservative, when he stated: "Stability is an unworthy American mission, and a misleading concept to boot. We do not want stability in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and even Saudi Arabia; we want things to change. The real issue is not whether, but how to destabilize."

http://www.kucinich.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3081&view=previous&
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 06:10 PM
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16. If only the shameless subhuman scum which Ledeen so well represents
would be sent to the front lines of its wars of choice, the world would be a MUCH better place.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 06:28 PM
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17. what a tangled web they weave
they pay newspapers to print 'good news'. who knows what else they are up to. i wonder if they are falling prey to the mistake of believing their own propaganda.
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