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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:52 PM
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Gonzales: Congress doesn't need to act on NSA program

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/03/09/news/nation/15_42_343_8_06.txt

Gonzales: Congress doesn't need to act on NSA program


WASHINGTON -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales made clear Wednesday that the White House is not seeking congressional action to inscribe the National Security Agency's monitoring into U.S. law, even as members of Congress negotiate with the Bush administration about legislation.

Gonzales maintained the program is legal the way it is.

"There's a general consensus -- quite frankly -- that this is a needed program" designed to listen to al-Qaida's communications, Gonzales told the National Association of Attorneys General Wednesday. "The concern I think that people have, which is a natural concern, is that, is this a limited program?"


Gonzales said administration officials have gone a long way in reassuring lawmakers about the NSA's operations. Over four years, he said, the administration has met "with select congressional leadership on both sides of the aisle about the scope of this program -- everything that we're doing related to this program."


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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:54 PM
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1. Who is part of this "consensus"?
:shrug:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:05 PM
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2. Who in the fuck needs a congress when we have a jam-up dictator
that the whole world just loves.

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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:07 PM
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3. These guys are dancin' fast
and getting away with a lot. But the pendulum will swing back and hard...
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:08 PM
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4. Someone needs to get the balls or ovaries to call
Gonzalez on this crap.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:25 PM
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5. Riiiiiiiiiight.... nt
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:27 PM
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6. Of course Gonzales believes Congress doesn't need to act
The Bush Crime Team believes it is a country unto itself.

They aren't accountable to anyone, least of all the American people and the U.S. Congress.

Whatever King George wants, he gets.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:28 PM
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7. I hope he keeps saying this.
And I hope the MSM will pick this up. It will surely piss off a few more fence sitters on the issue.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:21 AM
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8. ...and torture is legal and the prez has Hitler's Unitary Executive powers
and concentration camps & gulags and extraordinary renditions are all good things, and the Geneva Conventions are quaint (rightwingnuts just STFU the next time an AMERICAN is captured & his GC rights violated; they're QUAINT for Americans, too.) and US & international laws are only for the We the People, prezidents are above any & all laws (Hillary's gonna love that one!) and the US Constitution is only a piece of paper.

Gonzales; American TRAITOR.
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ekelly Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:37 AM
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9. I have a problem with this line......
Gonzales said administration officials have gone a long way in reassuring lawmakers about the NSA's operations. Over four years, he said, the administration has met "with select congressional leadership on both sides of the aisle about the scope of this program -- everything that we're doing related to this program."

everything that WE'RE doing with this program?

Excuse me????? "we're"?

Who the hell does Gonzo work for.....Bushco, or the poeple?
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:21 AM
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10. our big government secret police state
doesn't need the inconvenience

:sarcasm:
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:16 AM
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11. Congress doesn't need to because we'll do whatever the hell
we want and call it legal. Problem solved. The President is above the law.

I hate these people.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:47 AM
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12. So tell Congress that and stop negotiating new legislation. Talk about
forked tongue.

I wish Fiengold would just keep hammering this to death - AG says we don't need the legislation, so what we need is hearings.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 06:00 AM
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13. AP: Legal Rationale for Spy Program Questioned
March 9, 2006, 3:52AM
Legal Rationale for Spy Program Questioned

By PETE YOST Associated Press Writer
© 2006 The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — A former top national security lawyer at the Justice Department questions the Bush
administration's legal rationale for its warrantless eavesdropping program, newly released documents
show.

David Kris, now the chief ethics and compliance officer at Time Warner Inc., said in a Jan. 19 e-mail
that administration legal arguments put forth a month after the program was publicly disclosed had
"a slightly after-the-fact quality or feeling to them."

Kris wrote the e-mail to an aide to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales the same day Gonzales sent a
42-page white paper to Congress. It said the president has inherent war powers under the Constitution
to order eavesdropping without warrants.

Kris was an associate deputy attorney general from 2000 to 2003 dealing with national security issues,
but there was no indication he was aware of the National Security Agency program or participated in
internal deliberations about it during his government tenure.
<snip>

Full article: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/3711572.html

Related Washington Post article: Ex-Justice Lawyer Rips Case for Spying
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Dr Batsen D Belfry Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 06:34 AM
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14. Gonzales: "These are not the droids you're looking for"
There just isn't much else to say. Congress members are weak ones.

DBDB
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 06:50 AM
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15. gonzales: i control everything.
listen to me and get re-elected.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:00 AM
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16. Gonzales works for Shrub.
He stated this to Congress the last time. Congress also works for Shrub and the MIC and the Multi-Corps.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 08:48 AM
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17. Someone needs to challenge this butthead's judgment in court.
Let the courts meat out the legality and/or constitutionality of the administration's domestic surveillance program. At least, in a court, there is a CHANCE that our citizens liberties will be held intact over this new "unitary executive" that does whatever the hell it wants to do.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:54 AM
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18. I guess the Right Wing Extreme Court will have to decide
Any guesses on how that ruling will turn out? Unitary Power and all...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:05 PM
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19. "These aren't the driods you are looking for" n/t
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