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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:36 PM
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Sen. Clinton Says Wear 'Anger' As Honor

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/06/AR2006030600929.html

Sen. Clinton Says Wear 'Anger' As Honor


The Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Responding to Republican claims that she may be too angry to win national office, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton told an audience Monday to wear such criticism as "a badge of honor" and suggested that gender played a role in the attacks.

"When you run as a Democrat, and in particular, when you run as a Democratic woman, whether you're running at the local, state or national level, it's likely you're going to draw some unfriendly fire," Clinton said at a breakfast fundraiser hosted by black and Hispanic women supporters. "People will be attacking you instead of your ideas, they may impugn your patriotism, they may even say you're angry."

She added, "If they do that, wear it as a badge of honor, because you know what? There are lots of things that we should be angry and outraged about these days." She cited, among other things, the federal budget deficit, lobbying scandals in Washington, and the government's slow response to the Hurricane Katrina disaster.

It was the latest volley in a rhetorical back-and-forth between Clinton and leading GOP strategists that began last month, when Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman said Clinton "seems to have a lot of anger" and that American voters tend not to elect angry candidates.


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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:37 PM
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1. Go Hil'rey!
Go Hil'rey!!
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timbnyc44 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:48 PM
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19. About what?
Yeah, she's so damn angry about the war that....Oh, right, she refuses to call for a withdrawal from Iraq. And is talking about bombing Iran, just like John Bolton. So, why are the Repubs mad at her?
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:09 PM
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26. Incredible eh? n/t
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:41 PM
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28. Excuse the fuck out of me.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:04 PM
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38. Forget 'em ronnykmarshall
If Hillary is the Democratic nominee I'm 150 % behind her. The repukes want us fighting over a Presidential race that's still a long way off.


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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:59 PM
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39. It's been an emotional 24 for me.
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 11:00 PM by ronnykmarshall
Fucking Oscars and shit. I get soooooooo fed up with the Hil-Re bashing. And yes, I'll fess up that I was PISSED when my homegirl Babs Boxer voted for the Pat-Act this week.

But I think Joe-Free's a bomb!!! You cool ass, L.A. loving dude you!!!
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:40 PM
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2. I think "anger" would be a nice change..
..from the current "be happy, because I don't give a shit!" Bush mentality.

I would think (or hope) that most Americans agree with that. I dare them to try the "angry" meme if Hillary runs. Americans are angry, and they'll vote for whoever's angriest at this point.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:40 PM
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3. Memo to Mehlman:
American voters tend not to elect angry candidates?

Satisfied American voters tend not to elect angry candidates.

ANGRY voters tend to elect ANGRY candidates.

And believe me, WE ARE ANGRY out here, and that includes Republicans, Independents and Greens, along with we Dems.

Simple enough for even YOU to understand? Good ...
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:26 PM
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18. Truly. Maybe satisfied voters tend not to elect angry candidates, but
I defy mehlman or anybody else of his ilk to find satisfied voters out there - in ANY noticeable numbers anymore. Show me the satisfaction, shithead. Where is it? Where are all those bush worshippers who think he's doing such a good job? Where are all the folks marching solidly behind that "popular wartime president" of yours? You know, the guy who doesn't exist? The guy you and your marketing monsters shoved down America's throats.

FUCK YOU, mehlman. And the whores you rode in on.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:43 PM
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4. I'm angry that Hillary Clinton and the DLC are considered to be ...
"the opposition."

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:50 PM
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6. yawn... it's such a bore to watch fellow dems take down the party. n/t
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:02 PM
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10. Here Here!
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:05 PM
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11. Wow! A random forum posting wields that much power?
:eyes:

By the way, I'm an Independent.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:49 PM
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14. Wow! Fleming, u da man! nt
:toast:
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:47 PM
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5. Not that I believe she's angry,
but any candidate who isn't angry isn't paying attention. We need to replace all our wimpy Dems with angry ones.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:52 PM
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7. Agreed.
We need a pack of relentless attack dogs in office that will root out the villains in this government and dispose of them.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:52 PM
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8. I'm tired of Dems being accused of being "angry" that's Rove bullshit.
It's condescending and just a talking point. Hillary is doing the right thing, facing the charge and OWNING it. Fucky the pastey faced men... I'm soo tired of the country being run by old white men.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:49 PM
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29. And, it is also a gender thing -- she's right about that
So... there's a double whammy.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:49 PM
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42. My sentiments exactly!
pasty white, fat, balding old men with a giant chip on their shoulder because they are pasty white, fat, bald and old.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:01 PM
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9. who can help being 'angry' seeing what bushco has done??
all the Dems I know, and some Repubs as well, are downright outraged! seems to me that would be a more logical emotion than apathy or acquiescence.

:shrug:
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:22 PM
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12. About fucking time
...this is what we should have been hearing for some time.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:47 PM
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13. She has every right to be angry
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:52 PM
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15. good meme
Turn the tables on them. Most people are getting more and more angry out here and see no reason why a candidate can't be angry. This one is going to backfire on the RNC. It's such a transparent attempt at silencing opposition.



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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:18 PM
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16. Hillary is giving it right back to them
Way to go Hillary!
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timbnyc44 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:49 PM
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20. Tacking right
Actually, she is tacking right, hard.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:25 PM
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17. Damn straight!
Anger can be a gift -- as well as a terrific motivator!
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:54 PM
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21. Anger comes from fear, and fear is hardly a gift ...
(despite what Mr. De la Rocha may whisper.)
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:16 PM
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31. Not always.
There's such a thing as righteous anger against injustice. Does that come from fear?
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:32 PM
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34. Yes.
What is "righteous?" What is "unjust," for that matter?

We judge events as either "good" or "evil," according to our perspective and personal expectations of the world. When it does not measure up, we are fearful ... so we lash out in anger because we feel threatened.

Anger is destructive energy. And if anger is the root cause of "injustice," how pray tell, can more of the same be helpful?
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 09:01 PM
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37. Sorry.
I disagree in several ways, but I have to get back to work right now. Later.
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Randy Ranger Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:55 PM
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22. If so many of you are so angry
Why are you not demanding change from our representives and bombarding there offices with calls, letters and e-mails. I hear a lot of talk but whats needed is a lot more action!!!
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:02 PM
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25. Couldn't resist, huh?
Was it the mention of Hillary's name in particular, or simply the word "Clinton" that inspired you to post?

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Randy Ranger Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:22 PM
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27. I'm inspired by anger, and the do nothing attitude of congress
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silvermachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:22 PM
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41. I do those things...
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 04:23 PM by silvermachine
...all the time. In fact, just this morning I sent emails, signed petitions, forwarded them to like-minded individuals, made some calls (just like you, right? I mean I can only assume that's why you're here, correct?) And you seem to know so much about what others here do? Expound please.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:59 PM
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23. I'm angry that she voted for the war and continues to support
the occupation, even as it becomes clear that a majority of Americans (55-70% acc. to recent polls) now oppose it. She won't be getting my vote in either the CA primary or the general election. If she is the Dem nominee, I'll be voting Democratic Socialist.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:21 PM
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33. That's OK
If Calif. is close enough for your vote to make a difference, our Dem candidate is getting creamed anyway.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:17 PM
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40. Thanks for that comforting dismissal . . . Progressive Democrats
of Los Angeles has taken the position that we will endorse no candidate who voted for the war or the ensuing occupation.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:01 PM
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24. You tell them, Hilary. I am for you and all other dems who take
on this bunch of fascist losers.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:05 PM
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30. Hillary knows that America is mad as hell, and she hopes we're not going
to take it anymore.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:57 PM
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32. She is not angry enough. This country is in trouble, and we need Dems
that are pissed off and tough and outspoken. Good for her.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:45 PM
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35. Take it to em Hillary
You can't leave their sh*t go unchallenged.
Weasel Mellman can go to hell!
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:57 PM
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36. Don't quite know what SHE has to be so angry about...
n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:51 PM
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43. Alright Hill!!!!
:kick: :kick:
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