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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 08:47 PM
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U.S. Marines Wall in Iraqi City With Sand
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 08:47 PM by deadparrot
RUTBAH, Iraq - U.S. Marines used to patrol the streets of this city near the volatile Syrian border. Now they've penned it in with a wall of sand, leaving only three ways in or out.

While causing discomfort to the townspeople, the military says it is an effective barrier to insurgents and frees up troops for use in other parts of restive Anbar province in western Iraq.

The Marines ringed Rutbah with a 10.5-mile-long berm, seven feet high and 20 feet wide, in mid-January and reduced their presence to checkpoints at the three entrances that also are manned by a few dozen Iraqi soldiers.

The move was forced by a major U.S. effort to make the former insurgent stronghold of Fallujah a showplace of American-Iraqi cooperation. That leaves fewer Marines to patrol a region with close tribal and economic ties to neighboring Syria, which Washington has accused of letting militants slip over the border.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060305/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq...
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:11 PM
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1. I wonder...
...where they got the idea for this?
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:38 PM
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4. Well it was first tried at least two years ago...
And in that case it was indeed used to create a prison out of a town. The practice has continued but without a great deal of consistency.
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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:01 PM
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5. It seems like a good idea to me...
outside of the politics of should we be there or not.

It seems like a pragmatic and effective solution with built-in advantages and disadvantages. I can really see the problem of turning the city into a prison so the outcome would have to do with how you police the policies...allowing for swift passage of water, medical aid, etc. I wonder, if this was done with Fallujah, how many lives would have been saved. Would it allow for keener organization and promote cunning within the population?

I'm no military expert (ha, ha), it just seems like an interesting idea to explore...how long does it take to tunnel through sand, would smugglers want their families safely ensconced with-in the walls while they have little camps with access, what would be indicators of increased insurgent(?) activity...anyway, it just seems like an interesting idea.

I'm sure the military types that make their way with bs didn't think of this...

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:21 PM
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2. I make that to be about a million tons of sand
I wonder how much fuel that took.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:29 PM
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3. There are only a few places that are almost totally walled in
we call them strongholds and prisons. Guess they will have to resort back to city-states and regional governments. Sad.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:16 PM
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6. Nobody could have imagined the berms being breached...
:eyes:
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ChristianLibrul Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:31 PM
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7. sand
Let's hope they haven't created their own Alamo. If there are only three ways IN, there are only three ways OUT, too.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:14 PM
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8. Hmmm... I think that the Nazis did something similar
in Warsaw. Another abomination done in our name.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 09:41 AM
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15. Warsaw Ghetto Destruction, 1943





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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:45 PM
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9. And that worked so well in 'Nam.
Really it did.

MFing idiots.

Sigh.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:09 AM
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10. not the first time either to my recollection
some might call it a ghetto.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:38 AM
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11. Nation building or nation burying?
Bring home the troops. There are plenty of sandboxes here.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:49 AM
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12. Good to see democracy on the march again
:sarcasm:

Sounds more like a prison or a concentration camp to me.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:39 AM
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13. As they conduct yet another round of genocide on yet another Iraqi town
remember that over 80% of them believe they are avenging Iraq's participation in 9-11. Our government and media are war criminals.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 09:28 AM
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14. Hey, I thought we were there to liberate the Iraqi people,
not pen them in. Did I miss something?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 09:58 AM
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16. well, ya see "walling-in" is just the first step in liberatin' the country
next we got "shootin' everbuddy" and "rapin' and pillagin'."

i think. we gotta look at the manual agin', but that's what it is as i recall.
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