Cheney issues challenge to Iraq war critics

[sabra]

http://www.kpho.com/Global/story.asp?S=4564202&nav=23Ku

Cheney issues challenge to Iraq war critics

WASHINGTON Vice President Cheney is again challenging the Bush administration's critics of the war in Iraq.

The vice president told an American Legion conference today that those who are against the war should make it known if they think the U-S should "break our word and abandon our Iraqi allies."

He also told the conference that the U-S must treat Iraq as the "central front on the war on terror."

Cheney says that is essential because terrorist leaders like Osama bin Laden consider the country to be just that.

[grytpype]

1. OK Dick, let's see you win the war now.

How are you going to win it, Dick? Are you winning it now? What's your fucking plan?

[saigon68]

15. His Challenge "BRING EM ON"

My Challenge = "FUCK YOU ---- YOU DRAFT DODGER"

[UpInArms]

25. what Saigon said

n/t

[arewenotdemo]

31. well stated

[okieinpain]

he's going to stay the course of course. what's the course you ask

well we're not going to cut and run he says. you say what does that mean, he says he's not weak on defense, and he's going to take the fight to the terrorist. you say yeah, ok but what are you going to do, increase troops, decrease troops, train iraqi, what are you going to do. he says he's going to stay the course, and you're unpatriotic for asking........................

[TroglodyteScholar]

37. The mission isn't to win

The mission is to continue -- indefinitely -- funneling taxpayer money into the defense industry.

The mission is being accomplished every day.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

64. Dat's the facts, Jack!

[Roland99]

2. Cheney's opinions on fighting the war in Iraq are as accurate as his aim.

[brer cat]

51. tee hee, Roland99. We need that one on a bumper sticker.

[rodeodance]

3. question for Cheney-and how did the terrorists consider Iraq to be 'just

that" ?-------dipstick!

....Cheney says that is essential because terrorist leaders like Osama bin Laden consider the country to be just that.

[cantstandbush]

4. Hey, Saddam was once our ally. We broke our word to him.

My answer is "yes." We did it before, we can do it again. We did it to Saddam and then turned around and did it to Saddam's opposition.

[BOSSHOG]

5. This Veteran challenges War Supporters

If you think we should be on the ground and fighting in Iraq and you have never served in the military get your sorry ass down to the army recruiting station NOW! If you don't you are just a run of the mill chickenshit "conservative" All fucking talk, no patriotic action.

[Hayabusa]

6. My thoughts

The vice president told an American Legion conference today that those who are against the war should make it known if they think the U-S should "break our word and abandon our Iraqi allies."

We wouldn't have to "break our word to our Iraqi allies" if we were never there to begin with...

[kenny blankenship]

7. Most of our elected "allies" want us to leave forthwith

On the other hand, the ones who've always been on the CIA payroll probably do not. Regardless of whether we're justified in stiffing them, we hardly have the right to make the whole Iraqi nation pay the price for assurances we gave to people who sold their country out for money.

[napi21]

8. HEY DICK? Nobody GAS what you say! Check your new #'s!

18%. I'm thinkin' they're all the Halliburton employees!

[VegasWolf]

9. Hey, Dickface, you like shooting guns. Why don't you go on over

to Iraq and do something useful for a change.

[underpants]

10. Look you pinhead WE TOLD THIS WAS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

Jesus CHRIST don't you get it yet? We told you this would happen. We did some research for a few weeks and we came up with what should have been clear to anyone not totally out of their gord and our estimation ASSUMED that you were doing SOME planning for after the troops won the actual war (that was never really in question).

IT IS YOUR FAULT ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE DEAD. GET IT????

[sandrakae]

11. Cheney needs to go clean his gun.

[Joe for Clark]

19. I was just thinking that--

I was thinking maybe the reason he was so reckless with that gun was becuase - those were terrorists quail he was hunting.

He is sure brave with other peoples lives, ain't he??

I think he needs to back to work with Haliburton.

Joe

[Vincardog]

53. What do you mean Back to work for H? He always has been working for Haliburton.

[Auntie Bush]

75. And while he's cleaning it...may it accidentally go off and

accidentally hit him in the face...or the groin area would be acceptable. :bounce:

[The_Casual_Observer]

12. It's either break our word now, or break it later.

We can save money and lives if we break it now.

[madrchsod]

13. look out

"dickies got a gun...."

[tuvor]

14. "Break our word and abandon our allies"?! You hypocritical sonofabitch!

Or have you asked the UN for forgiveness for promising a vote on a war resolution, only to flip-flop when it was clear few other countries agreed with you?

Dick, indeed.

[MadMaddie]

16. Apparantly the * cabal haven't figured out that the world

knows this administration word is worthless....

Their word means is empty rhetoric.....

<snip>
The vice president told an American Legion conference today that those who are against the war should make it known if they think the U-S should "break our word and abandon our Iraqi allies."
<snip>

[sattahipdeep]

17. Never Forget John O'Neil

Cheney Hymn hymn Fuck him.



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/interviews/

[sinkingfeeling]

18. Uh, Bush just got done shooting his mouth off, that we would not

be involved in a civil war in Iraq. So who are the Iraqi allies? Which side did we pledge not to abandon? I'm confused Dead-eye.

[FreakinDJ]

20. I have 1 word for you DICK - Chalabi

Dear DICK head

You found it so easy to break your word with Chalabi why should i expected to up hold ideals you don't up hold your self

O'l Dead Eye my friend

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5040831/

[PsN2Wind]

21. Cheney the Dick

didn't feel quite so strongly about the "domino theory in S.E. Asia" so sat that one out. How come the VFW, AmVets, American Legion, et al, that were so quick to condemn that "draft dodger" Clinton seem to love this a**hole.

[gordianot]

39. Picked and chosen audience.

Even the veterans groups have members with different agendas.

[Orrin_73]

22. Dick let me tell you as a Muslim

The Iraqi's hate you more then they hate each other. You should ask yourself 'do the Iraqi's value our input in Iraq', The answer is a clear one which is "NO"!!!!
So pull the marines OUT of IRAQ!!!!

[KansDem]

23. There's that name again...

Cheney says that is essential because terrorist leaders like Osama bin Laden consider the country to be just that.

How quaint that Cheney would think of Osama. I thought the Wafia had forgotten all about him.

Feeling nostalgic for the good ol' days, Mr. VP?

[bobthedrummer]

24. Cheney is a war criminal and a traitor.

His cabal has harmed our US military and his shadow government policies made all Americans less secure.

[catnhatnh]

26. When I saw "Cheney issues a challenge"....

My first thought was "Shotguns at 10 paces???"

[Solly Mack]

27. "break our word" ?????? break our word????? Hello?? Geneva?

"break our word"??????

LOL that man is unstable and in need of a padded cell.

[H2O Man]

50. Right.

The "our word" thing is hilarious. Back your own word up, Dick. Go and do that fighting yourself.

[RobertSeattle]

28. From "Mr. Gravitas" to Mr Joke in 6 short years (and all his fault)

Resign Dick(head back to Wyoming).

[izzybeans]

29. Here's the thing dick; I'm looking for our allies and I can't find them.

Challenge for you tricky dicky: locate our allies for me and ask them what they want. Then I will respond to your suggestion. Right now I'm not buying it. Simple enough, dickwad?

[tabasco]

30. I challenge Cheney to walk down the street in Baghdad.

He would learn a lot about his Iraqi "allies."

They all love us right, Dickie Boy? All except those dead-end terrorists in their last throes.

[donkeyotay]

32. Mr. 18% is worried about "our" credibility?

Wasn't he the fella terrorizing the US with talk about Iraq attacking us with a nuclear weapon? Wasn't he the fella in 2004 in Ohio warning the American people that if we didn't "re-elect" his lying ass we'd be attacked by nuclear weapons? Wasn't he the one harboring all those neocon liars for war, the office that outed an agent?

Wasn't he the fella telling us we'd be greeted as liberators and telling us that the problem was just a few dead-enders who were turning the corner?

WASN'T HE THE FELLA THAT OWNED THE COMPANY THAT'S PROFITED SO HANDSOMELY OFF THIS WAR?

Isn't he the guy whose idea of an ally is CHALABI?

Doesn't he belong to the administration that has not been held accountable for a single lie they told?

Accountability anyone?

[DoYouEverWonder]

33. FU DC

You and the horse you rode in on.

[TacticalPeek]

34. Iraq is not our ally. And Cheenie is the one who has been abandoned.

Good luck trying to get a shotgun into the slammer with you, you stinking tub o' lard.

[laylah]

35. I challenge the SOB

to don a freakin' uniform and go fight along side those he has put in harms way, damn him :mad:

Jenn

[gordianot]

36. Send him out on the line with his $17,000 28 gauge shotgun.

[NoodleyAppendage]

38. How 'bout going outside the Green Zone unaided, you FATASS DICK!

Cheney is PURE evil. The world will be a better place when his neo-fascist ass is 6 feet under.

JB

[The Backlash Cometh]

40. We didn't make them any promises, you did you worm.

Hey, we're cutting bait.

[IndianaGreen]

41. Bin Laden wanted Bush to be reelected!

And Bush was grateful for Osama's help!

Each day we spent in Iraq is another victorious day for Osama!

[berni_mccoy]

42. 80% of our "Iraqi allies" WANT US OUT NOW!

What an indiot.

[VaYallaDawg]

43. Dear Dick. You took an oath of office to be Vice President.

You have broken your word every single day since.

[sofa king]

44. They're not our allies, and our reputation is already in the shitter.

Iraq is an occupied nation, temporarily subdued as the result of an offensive war for reasons which have yet to be truthfully elucidated. Iraq's position as an "ally" holds as much water as the idea that Vichy France was an "ally" of the fucking Nazis.

As far as "our word" goes, here's a hair's width cross-section of what the entire rest of the goddamn world knows better than we Americans do. We are now, sadly, a lying, cheating, stealing nation which won't stop at armed conflict to get what we want.

[keopeli]

45. Response and Counter-Challenge

I have so much to say I can't stand it.

First, Cheney is using his speech to frame the Anti-War movement.

By stating his 'challenge' as he has, he has implied:

1. Anti-war people want to abandon Iraqis. (Wrong - they want to remove the military. That's not abandonment.)
2. Anti-war people want to "break our word". Well, by "our word", Cheney means Bush* and Chaney's word, not America's word. We've never told Iraq that we are there forever, and we will not be. The question is not 'whether' to withdraw, but 'when' and 'how' to do so.
3. Anti-war people don't support our Iraqi Allies. Iraq is not an Ally. They are a territorial interest of the US which belonged to us just a few short months ago. Iraq has very limited resources, and infant government in peril, civil unrest bordering on war, obviously no weapons of mass destruction...and yet, Cheney labels them an "ally", supposedly in his War on Terror.

So, Chaney's challenge is disingenuous at best. A serious "challenge" would ask something like, "What would you do?" or "How would you proceed?" A fake challenge for propaganda purposes would say something like, "Do you think we should lie and be dishonest to our best friends and leave them to die at the hands of our enemies?" That is basically what Cheney asked. The answer, of course, is a simple no.

And now, a real challenge to Cheney:

"How can we win the war on Terror in under 5 years?"
"Are you willing to announce a plan to turn things around in Iraq before the next election cycle?"
"Of all your children and grand-children who are of age, how many are in the armed forces and in what capacity? And do you think all war-supporters should enlist?"

And, finally, a fake Cheney challenge, just like his:

How many more soldier's lives do you believe we are justified in sacrificing in search of non-existent military threats and in pursuit of terrorists in Iraq, a country devoid of terrorists until we invaded? And, how many more lives of our Iraqi allies, civilian and military, are disposable as we continue to look for threats that do not exist?

[Rex]

46. Go fuck yourself Dick Cheney.

nt

[stepnw1f]

47. Have a Heart Attack Already Would You

You waste of flesh and bone.

[henslee]

48. Quick-draw Cheney and Meester Danger. Two pathetic miscreants of history.

[jberryhill]

49. Speaking of being held hostage...

"Cheney says that is essential because terrorist leaders like Osama bin Laden consider the country to be just that."

I see. And we apppointed Osama as head of the agenda committee, when?

[NYC Liberal]

52. Fine: YES, LET'S GET THE HELL OUT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT

Iraqis don't want us there.
Most of the troops don't think we should be there.
Most AMERICANS don't think we should be there.

So, DICK, who's left who still WANTS us there?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

54. What "Iraqi allies"?? How about "Iraqi puppets"??....

...We got there based on Cheney's lies.

We don't trust anything Cheney has to say on ANY subject.

[whosinpower]

55. WEll - if Osama considers such - then....

Why was the last BIG attack on the Saudi oil refinery????????????????????????

[flordehinojos]

56. BIRD SHOT TO YOU CHENEY!

[President Kerry]

57. What was that Mr. 18%?

How about 100k or so of our Iraqi allies we've either murdered or contributed to murdering with your war?

[goforit]

58. Bla bla bla....no substance or facts, Cheney, as usual.

Delusional thinking is his mantra.

[VaLabor]

59. What's the equivalent of this?

Dick: I'm going to break into the neighbor's house while they're away and use their fireplace for some schmores!

Dick's parental figure: I don't think you should do that.

Dick: Wuss!

...few hours later...

Dick's parental figure: My God! The neighbor's house is on fire. DICK! What did you do?

Dick: What? Who cares? That's irrelevant. The question now is should I leave the house?

Dick's parental figure: You should put out the fire you started first, Dick!

Dick: AHA! See, now that I'm here, you don't want me to leave! I was right!

[daleo]

60. Cheney's challenge to Iraq war critics:

Let's go quail hunting.

[baldguy]

61. I swear to preserve protect & defend the Constitution of the United States.

Seems to me, he's already broken his word - to the American people.

[yorkiemommie1]

62. my challenge to deadeye dick

get on a plane and on to the front lines. scott ritter said he'd be willing to lead you and your warmonger buddies on a patrol over there.

hey, creepycrawlie dick, read your lips:



The question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth? And the answer is not very damned many.

~Dick Cheney

About the quote: Speaking to the Discovery Institute after the first Gulf War, on 8/14/1992, when he was Secretary of Defense.


edited to add creepycrawlie's words of wisdom.

[libodem]

63. What a snarling, grizzled-up old war profiteer, criminal, deceiver

Why doesn't he just go to the Bohemian Grove and do some secret Satanist Owl Cult worshiping, sacrifice some virgins, and screw some little boys, and stay off our backs. Google Bohemian Grove if you don't know what I mean.

[madmark]

65. word given by whom? i gave no word you POS. And we have no

allies in Iraq except maybe Kurds and they are self-sufficient.

[Gregorian]

66. Even if there were a war on terror, he'd be wrong.

Cut and run, Iraq allies... Bla bla bla, what? And the American Legion???

Get back in your casket old man.

[Megahurtz]

67. He's Not Done Yet.

[dbt]

68. Our "word" is worth NOTHING.

Maybe even less. bu$hler gave our "word" that we would "smoke bin Laden out of his cave" and "bring him to Justice."

WORTHLESS. Just like bu$h and the Toadies he serves.

"Allies" obtained at gunpoint are worse than enemies.

Fuck Chee-Knee before he fucks You.

:freak:
dbt

Remember New Orleans

[EVDebs]

69. Quakers win Cheney's challenge. Can you stop domestic spying on them?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=379516

[Olney Blue]

70. Please go back to your undisclosed location.

[Vickers]

71. What does that drunk fuck know about war?

Seriously.

[Charlie Brown]

72. Is he speaking to the 72% of servicemen in Iraq

who support a pullout?

[crossroads]

73. Shot happens... Cheney

[teryang]

74. His fraud is his bond...break it or break the bank

His word isn't worth spit except to corporate lobbyists out of gun range.

[BenDavid]

76. It is not breaking OUR WORD, you

sorry excuse for a vice president. It is preventing the unnessary deaths of more of our men and women. Hell, you been told countless times to tell the damn newly formed government of Iraq that unless time tables were met, the U. S. is gone....But nooooooooooo yo ass has got to call all of us that disagrees with yo sorry ass, unpatriotic....Get the hell out of Iraq. Give them 6 months to take over and if not then we start the pull out, and leave it to those Iraqi soldiers to defend their own country...It is time we brought all our service people home and when they arrive we all need to tell them all how proud we were for the mission you undertook.... a hand shake or a hug will do.....

[Pachamama]

77. How does FUCHeney know what OBL considers?

:shrug:

I thought they didn't know where he was....weren't they busy hunting him down?

OR....is it more like they are in regular contact with him.... :eyes: Sometimes, you just have to wonder....

[IronLionZion]

88. Pillow talk...or they just tell the OBL imposter what to say nt

[Skittles]

78. old and tired stuff

shut the fuck up cheney

[KDLarsen]

79. It's really thought defying..

He also told the conference that the U-S must treat Iraq as the "central front on the war on terror."
Cheney says that is essential because terrorist leaders like Osama bin Laden consider the country to be just that.

If you hadn't gone and invaded Iraq, it wouldn't have been a "central front on the war on terror" IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU SCHMUCK!

[JI7]

80. what's he going to do ? shoot us in the face ?

[magellan]

81. Want an answer, Dick?

Here it is. You gave YOUR word. This country was strongly opposed to war unless WMD were found. None were. You invaded anyway. NOT OUR BAGGAGE to keep YOUR word when you can't even keep yours to us.

As others have already said, Iraq is indeed the central front on the war on terror. It became that AFTER you jackasses invaded.

Lastly, I'd just like to say...from the bottom of my heart...STFU and sit TF down, old man.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

82. SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!

A juvenile response to a juvenile challenge.

[Buns_of_Fire]

83. Cheney challenges critics: Shotguns at 20 paces.

Date and time: TBA on pay-per-view. On the subcard: Zell Miller vs. Chris Matthews. Call your cable operator today.

[suegeo]

84. "our word" "our allies"???

What is with this "our" stuff.

For the record: Dick Cheney and I aren't in cahoots in ANY regard. And, 9.11 was an inside job.

[angryxyouth]

85. It is not Our word Dick

It is the word of the illegal regime who has taken control of this country. Not the word of Americans or America. The world will forgive us after we round you all up, and execute you for treason and crimes against humanity. Live on world TV.:patriot:

[Triana]

86. Terrorists DID NOT consider the country to be a central front for terror..

..until we INVADED THERE. Before that it was

NOT

a terrorist hotbed - but it is now!

Furthermore, we have pissy few Iraqi allies. They want us OUT of their country. We've done nothing but destroy it, make it a terrorist hotbed, and plunged it into civil war.

[IronLionZion]

87. Well Deadeye Dick can just go fuck himself.

The burden of proof is on him. He needs to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the reasons for continuing the war and what his definition of success is and his plan for achieving it.

I can't believe we still have a war on fear....BUT BE AFRAID OF THE TERRORISTS BOO!!! Katrina and Dubai ports have proven how much they care about homeland security.