GOP dampens hope for bounce from Bush address

[sabra]

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060201/1bush.htm

White House Watch: GOP dampens hope for bounce from Bush address


In a memo to Republican National Committee members, Republican pollster Matthew Dowd warned against looking for a pop in the instant polls following President Bush's State of the Union address.

"A story line has developed that says the president has to move his approval numbers coming out of the speech," he writes in the memo provided to U.S. News. "While all of us would welcome increased public approval, the history-both recent and the last 50 years–of poll movement around this event shows quite a different story."

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"In looking at poll movement before and after State of the Union addresses, the average over the last 50 years is actually a slight drop (0.2 percent). President Bush's average change is also a drop (0.4 percent). Only one of his SOTU addresses showed positive movement (2005), which is likely attributed to the intervening events of the 2005 Inaugural and January 2005 Iraqi elections," writes Dowd. He added: "All of this is important to keep in mind as pundits analyze and analyze and analyze the effects of President Bush's speech. Context is everything in politics."

[Deja Q]

1. Politics is about being able to lie convincingly. Context is immaterial.

[electropop]

15. He's no longer able to lie convincingly - he needs some fresh lies.

But he keeps recycling the same laughable nonsense that everybody wrote off years ago.

Besides, as the pollster pointed out, every time Bushit opens his mouth, his poll numbers drop. The Rethugs really should keep him locked in a cellar until November.

[saigon68]

29. Maybe he can provoke some violence

He personally achieves arousal at the thoughts of disembowelment, mayhem and violence.

Kind of like cheering at a "good" texas hanging or watching a "Burning at the Stake"

[Atman]

2. Why do they even discuss polls?

Didn't they try to convince us in 2004 that polls were totally and completely unreliable?

[radfringe]

26. pay no attention

to the polls behind the curtain....

when the numbers are bad they pooh pooh the importance of polls, but when the numbers are good they tout them all over the place...

in other words they only care what YOU think when YOU think the same way as they do

[deadparrot]

3. Someone's not getting good news from the internals. nt

[Bumblebee]

23. My reaction, exactly. He is not speculating; he knows what is coming out

I am sure they did instant polling.

[samhsarah]

4. How about this: If his numbers don't pop, it's because he's the

WORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.

[American liberal]

5. LOL Thanks I needed that! :-)

[VegasWolf]

6. A bounce from a soggy, wet noodle laying on a concrete floor. Don't

think so.

[Straight Shooter]

7. Yep. They know it was a bomb.

As one newspaper headlined it: "bush gives a speech." :7

[StClone]

8. Why do they even care -- fake the polls like you do everything else

Was that so hard?

[saltpoint]

9. If there's a bounce it will be modest and short-lived.

I think a lot of Republicans in Congress are going to set their own agenda in this election year and that their plans may not include the president's input.

[American liberal]

10. Maybe the polls didn't pop, but I'll betcha

the crime rate for drug deals, DUIs, and domestic violence spiked last night as people chose their different dysfunctional methods for coping with the frustrations: inadequate health insurance, cost-of-living increases (inflation--bet the Screw-up didn't talk about THAT in his SOTU report), unemployment, unaffordable housing, lack of subsidized daycare, Medicare headaches (I heard Screw-up didn't even MENTION the current Medicare debacle)...shall I go on? Yep, the economy is in FINE shape! That's why I have to work two jobs and STILL can barely keep up with my bills! Since Cindy Sheehan was led away in handcuffs, I'll bet there wasn't a single person--or dog--in that room last night who has a CLUE what it's like out here in the real world.

[CoffeeCat]

11. A lesson to Rove...

...The American people aren't complete dullards.

We don't sit around, waiting--for Junior Jerk Store--to fill our heads with pretty soundbytes and cute one liners.

Did you ass clowns actually believe that a scripted bunch of gibberish would actually mean something to us?

Nimrods.

These elitist assholes need to step out of their bubble and into the real world. Salt-of-the-Earth, compassionate people who love their country and their children--are not persuaded by your third-rate thuggery and flowery prose.

You're so impressed with yourselves, but no one else is.

[gristy]

12. He's lying

He cherry picked the polls of the past 50 years.

[Fovea]

13. Translation: We were praying that somehow

Dubya would be the wind beneath our wings, instead of the concrete embedding our shoes.

[bluestateguy]

14. Dowd makes one good point

SOTU addresses usually don't give presidents much of a bounce. But when a president is a poor speaker, like this one, then the bounce can be like trying to dribble a basketball with no air in it.

[LynnTheDem]

16. "Bush's average change is also a drop"

Too bloody true. But hey, just coz the majority of Americans want bush impeached for TWO reasons...I mean fuck the "fringe focus groups", right?

[Pithy Cherub]

17. And there were such high hopes for the anti-human/hybrid policy...

That propaganda speech was put together like a bad quilt!:P

[TacticalPeek]

18. Bwaaahahahaha!

Bwaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha!




Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[Cha]

19. Glad you're getting a

kick outta this:D

[rodeodance]

20. lowering the bar--plain and simple.

[yellowcanine]

21. Dang those slippery goal posts keep moving! What's a president to do?

[bemildred]

22. Dead cat bounce. nt

[cliss]

24. Oh, so it was all for nothing.

I didn't know Bush was so generous! Actually doing something, and there's nothing in it for him. Worse, it looks like presidents typically get a drop in ratings.

Actually, I think this is a regular thing for Bush, and his PR people know it. Every time Einstein Bush opens his mouth, his ratings drop.

Keep talking, George.:smoke:

[aquart]

25. It's a constitutional requirement. He's gotta.

[salin]

27. and thier vote to protect wealthy tax payers and further screw

middle class and poor tax payers will really help that bounce :sarcasm:

[mikeytherat]

28. Administration backs off Bush's vow to reduce Mideast oil imports

Administration backs off Bush's vow to reduce Mideast oil imports

WASHINGTON - One day after President Bush vowed to reduce America's dependence on Middle East oil by cutting imports from there 75 percent by 2025, his energy secretary and national economic adviser said Wednesday that the president didn't mean it literally.

What the president meant, they said in a conference call with reporters, was that alternative fuels could displace an amount of oil imports equivalent to most of what America is expected to import from the Middle East in 2025.

But America still would import oil from the Middle East, because that's where the greatest oil supplies are.

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/nation/13767738.htm?source=rss&channel=krwashington_nation

I knew that Commander Pissypant's "Jimmy Carter circa 1979" portion of his speech was complete bunk, and they waited less than 24 hours to admit as much. Not gonna get much of a boost from flip-floppin!

mikey_the_rat

[0007]

30. He'd get a small bounce if he rescinded the tax cut for the wealthy

and brought the troops home today and told the oil companies to go take a flying fuck at the moon.