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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:29 PM
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KBR awarded Homeland Security contract worth up to $385M US detention ctrs
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp...

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- KBR, the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton Co. (HAL) , said Tuesday it has been awarded a contingency contract from the Department of Homeland Security to supports its Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities in the event of an emergency. The maximum total value of the contract is $385 million and consists of a 1-year base period with four 1-year options. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005. The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs, KBR said. The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster, the company said.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:31 PM
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1. Sweet Jesus.. This scares the crap out of me... This can't be a good
Edited on Tue Jan-24-06 12:39 PM by converted_democrat
thing...


on edit- Perhaps I'm becoming too cynical, but this really bothers me deeply, for some reason.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:32 PM
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2. I do believe that I can safely say that I am now alarmed
:scared:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:43 PM
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8. The Fourth Reich.....These "detention centers are for us", the
"disruptors" People who "annoy" others (the elite)
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 04:49 PM
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35. You are correct, mom...
They're for us. "influx of immigrants"? Crock 'a shit sez I!!

Anybody who doesn't see through this has their head up their arse.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 05:01 PM
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37. Fight Alito real hard!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 07:48 AM
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59. I just figured out why I am so upset by this
back in 2001 - the first thing that I saw that made no sense - it was just after the Taliban had destroyed the Buddhas -

it was a Press Release from Halliburton regarding a contract:

(and, yes, I have been reading and watching business reports for a very long time)

HALLIBURTON SUBSEA OPENS CASPIAN MARINE BASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: May 15, 2001

ABERDEEN, Scotland - Halliburton International Inc. and KASPMORNEFTELOT (KMNF), the marine division of the State Oil Company of Azerbaijan Republic (SOCAR), have entered into a 12-year contract for a marine base and associated services to support Halliburton Subsea offshore construction activity in the Caspian region. Halliburton Subsea is a business unit of Halliburton Company's (NYSE: HAL) Energy Services Group.

The base, with a 6,000-square metre lay down area, is located at KMNF's Southern Basin adjacent to Caspian Shipyard. The base will be primarily utilized to support Halliburton Subsea's catamaran crane vessel Qurban Abbasov (previously known as the Titan 4) during the restoration and upgrade of the vessel and during the forthcoming offshore construction, pipelay and subsea activities. The site will also be developed to provide warehouse, office and training facilities that will include advanced diver and life support technician training, utilizing the company’s 16-man modular saturation system.

The Qurban Abbasov is operated by Halliburton Subsea in an alliance agreement with SOCAR for a period of 12 years. It will provide an advanced, stable, dynamically positioned construction platform for saturation and remote vehicle diving; flexible and bundle pipeline installation with trenching; emergency pipeline repair, subsurface well intervention with wire line; and coiled tubing. It also will be used in flotel configuration for hook-up and commissioning work.

"The acquisition of the marine base is a further indication of our commitment to the Caspian region and to the success of the partnership arrangements with SOCAR," said Edgar Ortiz, president and chief executive officer, Halliburton’s Energy Services Group.

...more...

then there was this article (within a few days):

Bush's Faustian Deal With the Taliban

Published May 22, 2001 in the Los Angeles Times

Enslave your girls and women, harbor anti-U.S. terrorists, destroy every vestige of civilization in your homeland, and the Bush administration will embrace you. All that matters is that you line up as an ally in the drug war, the only international cause that this nation still takes seriously.

That's the message sent with the recent gift of $43 million to the Taliban rulers of Afghanistan, the most virulent anti-American violators of human rights in the world today. The gift, announced last Thursday by Secretary of State Colin Powell, in addition to other recent aid, makes the U.S. the main sponsor of the Taliban and rewards that "rogue regime" for declaring that opium growing is against the will of God. So, too, by the Taliban's estimation, are most human activities, but it's the ban on drugs that catches this administration's attention.

Never mind that Osama bin Laden still operates the leading anti-American terror operation from his base in Afghanistan, from which, among other crimes, he launched two bloody attacks on American embassies in Africa in 1998.

Sadly, the Bush administration is cozying up to the Taliban regime at a time when the United Nations, at U.S. insistence, imposes sanctions on Afghanistan because the Kabul government will not turn over Bin Laden.

The war on drugs has become our own fanatics' obsession and easily trumps all other concerns. How else could we come to reward the Taliban, who has subjected the female half of the Afghan population to a continual reign of terror in a country once considered enlightened in its treatment of women?

...more...

Okay - so I will be watching for something else - I'm not sure exactly what - but we will get at least one more notice ... I hope.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:47 PM
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11. This is scary as HELL! Keep a bag packed for camping!
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:39 AM
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66. And keep money that isn't in the bank.
Remember in Handmaids tale they froze the bank accounts of the women who suddenly no longer had rights.

The irs right now has frozen a million tax returns. They can expand and freeze bank accounts. They do that as standard operation(freeze bank accounts) for people leaving the country whom they believe will evade taxes.
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thecai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:06 AM
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85. They've Been Building The Cntrs Since The '80's
I've been opposing these centers since the '90's, when I first heard about them. They have cntrs that will hold over a million people, right here in the U.S.
ALL hooked up to gas...
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:34 PM
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3. In preparation for King George's 'final solution'? n/t
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:34 PM
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4. I have had the feeling that Katrina was a test of some kind.
Now I know what kind. "Papers please".
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 08:27 PM
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:01 AM
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92. Wow, thanks for sharing that.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:35 PM
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5. Sieg Heil Y'all! n/t
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:39 PM
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6. Emergency influx of immigrants, hell.
It will be an emergency escape of citizens they'll be trying to stop.

Gads, this creeps me out. KBR is just another tentacle of the bush cabal.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:46 PM
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10. as if ....
just who would be lining up at our borders eager to live w/in the *moron's economy-soon-to-be nazi state?

dp
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webtrainer Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 10:56 AM
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91. glad I bailed out already . . .
scary stuff

-somewhereInCentralAmerica
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:41 PM
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7. Eliminating political dissent...
Edited on Tue Jan-24-06 12:42 PM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...is what these facilities will be for. The big roundup is coming soon enough. I might start carrying a toothbrush and a couple pair of clean underware with me at all times---might come in handy.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:44 PM
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9. My blood absolutely chilled.
Immigration emergency? LIKE WHAT?

Nice. Concentration camps we're building.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:50 PM
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12. an article on "ICE Facilities"
Lifting the curtain: Immigrant detention centers in U.S. charged with abuse

A recent Associated Press article sheds light on how human beings are treated when they are detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The AP article reports allegations that as many as six federal Homeland Security deportation agents assaulted and tortured a shackled Nigerian man at the ICE facility in Oklahoma City. ICE officials have denied widespread abuse of detainees. The FBI is investigating.

“In a flash, five, maybe six officers attacked me,” wrote Daso Abibo, 51, the Nigerian immigrant, in a letter from Oklahoma County Jail after the assault. “My legs were in shackles. One officer grabbed my neck from the back with his hand pressing it. Another officer was holding tight on my ears, twisting and pulling hard on them as if to pull them off my head. ... One officer was twisting my left hand, while another was busy knocking on my Achilles heel’s tendon. It was a nightmare. It was so painful, I asked them to shoot me ... dead so they could get what they want.”

“This is lawlessness under the law,” he complained. “I never fought back.”

Deanna Burdine, 65, a former Homeland Security employee, said she walked in on the beating and worried that Abibo had been killed.

<snip>

“According to current and former Department of Homeland Security employees in Oklahoma City, ICE officers routinely abuse detainees there,” Susan Benesch of Amnesty International said in the letter. “There seems to be a pattern and practice of abuse on the part of ICE officers in Oklahoma City.”

The Houston Chronicle reported this summer that Dr. Yahia Ghoul had been detained at the Houston ICE facility. He completed a surgery residency at the Baylor College of Medicine after being invited to train there by the world famous Dr. Michael DeBakey. According to the article, local surgeons described Ghoul as “a hard-working surgeon who helped save many lives and was being paid pennies for what he was doing.”

...more...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:35 PM
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22. They do their best to make sure the immigrants don't want to
live here.

So when do they start trying to convince us of the same?
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:31 PM
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53. Hey, that's not listed in the operations manual!
I was digging around looking for some of their other contracts. Came across their website. I had no idea they had soooo many detention centers, and major expansions underway!

http://www.ice.gov/graphics/dro/index.htm

DRO secures bed space in detention facilities, and monitors these facilities for compliance with national Detention Standards. The standards specify the living conditions appropriate for detainees. These standards have been collated and published in the Detention Operations Manual. This Manual provides uniform policies and procedures concerning the treatment of individuals detained by ICE.

ICE operates eight secure detention facilities called Service Processing Centers (SPCs). They are located in Aguadilla, Puerto Rico; Batavia, New York; El Centro, California; El Paso, Texas; Florence, Arizona; Miami, Florida; Los Fresnos, Texas; and San Pedro, California. The newest SPC, the Buffalo Federal Detention Facility, is unique because in addition to its 300 beds for detained aliens, it has 150 beds for use by the U.S. Marshals Service.

ICE augments its SPCs with seven contract detention facilities. These facilities are located in Aurora, Colorado; Houston, Texas; Laredo, Texas; Seattle, Washington; Elizabeth, New Jersey; Queens, New York; and San Diego, California. ICE also uses state and local jails on a reimbursable detention day basis and has joint federal facilities with the Bureau of Prisons, the Federal Detention Center in Oakdale, Louisiana, and the contractor owned and operated (with the Bureau of Prisons) criminal alien facility in Eloy, Arizona. In addition, major expansion initiatives are underway at several SPCs.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:50 PM
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13. Rapid Development of new programs. I wonder, could that mean
Democratic/Protester detainment camps? This is the second coming of Hitler.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:00 PM
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14. Yes, it could
They will call them ICE Camps and most of the people there will be illegal aliens. Just like in Germany, most of the people sent to camps were Jews, who had been so vilified and reviled that the Germans didn't make a fuss about their being "sent away".

Who will notice or know if a few "credible threats" or homosexuals or "disrupters" are sent along, too?

And by the time it happens, it will be legal at the rate we're going.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:03 PM
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15. Oh, yeah. That creeps me out.
Geez. :scared:
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:05 PM
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16. OMG! What the hell is happening???
expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs, KBR said.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:08 PM
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17. " as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency"
that's the line that creeps me out.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:08 PM
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18. ADD THIS TO THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS THAT ARE ALREADY KNOWN ABOUT
Edited on Tue Jan-24-06 01:09 PM by flyarm
THAT CAN HOUSE UP TO 8 MILLION PEOPLE...please send this to every republican you know and ask them if this is the conservative idea of shrinking the government and getting the government out of our lives!!

seriously send this to every conserv and republican you know and add to it an article about *es power grab...and ask them if this is their conservative values..a fascist state...

The End of 'Unalienable Rights'
By Robert Parry
January 24, 2006

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/012406.html

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Alito & the Ken Lay Factor
By Robert Parry
January 12, 2006


The unitary theory of presidential power sounds too wonkish for Americans to care about, but the confirmation of Samuel Alito to the U.S. Supreme Court could push this radical notion of almost unlimited Executive authority close to becoming a reality.


http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/011106.html



please do send this to everyone you know..people have to be made aware now...immediately!!

add the two columns i have provided ...it will bring it all together for them!

fly

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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:10 PM
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19. self delete
Edited on Tue Jan-24-06 01:33 PM by CabalPowered
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:22 PM
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20. programs like these perhaps
Operation Cable Splicer

Operation Cable Splicer is a Department of Defense operation for the orderly take- over of local and state governments. The development of this operation had its start while President Ronald Reagan was governor of California. Governor Reagan enlisted the assistance of the head of the states National Guard to put an operation together, which would assist the government during times of civil unrest. This condition required the declaration of Martial Law. Its purpose was to legitimize the arrest and detainment of anti-war protesters and political troublemakers during the Vietnam era. Initially the operation was presented to the public disguised as a program to protect against civil disturbances. Its stated purpose was to:

1. Keep the people from gathering in the streets.
2. Isolate and neutralize the revolutions leadership.
3. Disperse crowds and demonstrations.

and prosecution followed to:

1. Validate the action of the police.
2. Deny the defendant propaganda material.
3. To deny them the opportunity to recover money damages against the police for arresting them.



http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/civdc.htm


It ain't tin foil it's fascism.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:32 PM
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21. "...development of a plan to react to a national emergency..."
such as martial law.

Time to dust off the old Nixon camps plans.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:53 PM
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23. Bringing the Merc Army Home.
One aspect of the Iraqi Adventure(Blunder) that has gone unreported (shock!) is the training and development of a private army alongside the normal armed forces. This army is outside of normal military control and regulation, controlled by the SOD, and has absolutely no congressional oversight. There were reports from NO/Katrina of KBR mercs operating within NO. The size of this private army is, as far as I know, a closely held secret. The merc army includes the secret prison system, currently largely offshore, and it appears will now be enhanced to include domestic detention centers.

Like all fascist regimes, a separate militia outside of the normal military tradition and chain of command is an essential ingredient for maintaining control.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 02:02 PM
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24. is this going to have the same oversight as KBR's contracts in Iraq?
i.e. NONE
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 02:53 PM
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26. That is 50% of the motivation.
The other 50% is just plain old greed.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 02:36 PM
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25. Alrighty then....
Where the hell are the few, but very vocal, debunkers! They always show up when a detention camp thread is started...come on , what do you have to say now... Craven traitor dirtbags
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 02:59 PM
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27. really! I want someone to come and tell me that I am making this up
and give me a great explanation for this contractor and this contract.

I mostly deal with the business side of the dealings - and you can come by the SMW any day and see that is true.

So, where are the debunkers?
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 04:55 PM
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36. Yeah, where are they now??
I've seen it. And sick of them coming around with their minimizing BS and conspiracy theorist name-calling.
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 03:05 PM
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28. Uhoh.
:scared:
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 03:10 PM
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29. Maybe I picked the wrong time to re-read 1984...
because this scares the sh*t out of me.

Whomever it was that said keep a bug out bag packed and an emergency sop for your family isn't too far off from reality after all.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:50 PM
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70. not packing bug-out bag, yet...
since we live in what would probably be a place to which people will be going...closest freeway is 45 min. over winding roads...our CA friends are invited to join us here...

This info is really scary...shades of the Hitlerzeit (Hitler time)...
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 03:17 PM
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30. Halliburton covered up the contamination of water in Iraq for a year
Is this company trustworthy?
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 03:43 PM
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31. Here is the location of the Buffalo, New York FEMA detention center:
Use the "update map" feature on the left hand side to view the "large" version:

http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=17&n=4750167.00009851...
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 03:59 PM
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32. Can anyone here explain why this SHOULDN'T scare me?
It really gives me the creeps, and I want to find some nice comforting reason to think I am just being paranoid.

Tucker
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 04:25 PM
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34. Maybe....
(trying hard to think of a valid reason) It could just be for building/repairing the existing ICE detention centers. If an immigrant is caught in the US illegally, they're sent to a center for "processing" before being sent back to their country. So there is a valid reason for these facilities. The contract isn't for that much money - $384 million dollars isn't a whole lot if you're planning on building a fleet of new internment camps. Maybe this is a valid expansion of the ICE's existing operation, to handle the increase in immigration. Having said all this, though, even I don't believe it.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:26 PM
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49. maybe if things go down hill and mexicans starve and swamp the border nt
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 10:23 PM
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55. Or maybe it's nothing at all
Maybe it's another pork-barrel project to give money to Halliburton. This is a "contingency" contract, with no fixed quantity or work, to build stuff in case of a "future" emergency operation. In other words, they just sit & wait for future orders. However, Halliburton gets the money right now. $385 Million dollars up front - w/o having a specific job or needing to do a single thing. For all we know, this money could be going directly to Dick Cheney's account. Maybe it's just a shell game to cover up Halliburton payoffs while giving the illusion they're protecting "national security".
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:17 AM
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93. the $384 contract says it's for 1 year and will be renewed
every year for several years. It's more than a 3rd of a billion. It's a pretty big contract.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:48 AM
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94. Chump change for Halliburton
While wading through the cesspool of the Halliburton web-site, I was just blown away by the amount of money & contracts this company is receiving from the US government.

These contracts include:
- $2 BILLION dollars to supply Iraqi troops (LOGCAP III)
- $500 million dollars to do construction & disaster clean-up after Katrina (CONCAP)
- $204+ million to repair US Army facilities in Alaska
- $1.5 BILLION to build and/or repair CENTCOM facilities & bases in the Middle East, as needed.

It just goes on and on and on. The amount of money going to Halliburton is equivalant to the GDP of many countries; it surpasses the military expenditures of many countries. And many of these contracts are similar ID/IQ contracts, meaning they are awarded the money first for work they may or may not actually do. There is a pipline of money flowing directly between the White House & Halliburton's offices and it's sickening.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 02:29 AM
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56. Are you rich?
I'm sure there will be a caveat where you can buy your way out of internment.

Doesn't that make you feel better?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 04:15 PM
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33. we award Halliburton for poisoning water with another pork project???
this country is fucked up!
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:07 PM
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45. Hollowburden serves contaminated H2O for a year in Iraq to our troops
and gets another huge contract with no oversight in thanks!
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 05:14 PM
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38. Kicked, and recommended for 'Greatest' page. n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 05:54 PM
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39. Here's the GD Forum thread on this horrifying development:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
thread title (1-24-06 GD): KBR awarded Homeland Security contract for US detention centers.

One step closer to martial law: concentration camps for dissenters.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 07:11 PM
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40. 1/24 - U.S. Military May Execute 'War on Terror' Detainees in Cuba
US may use Guantanamo for military executions


WASHINGTON (AFP) - New US military rules mean that executions of condemned "war on terror" detainees could be carried out at the US naval base at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, the US Army said.

The new rules authorize the army to set the location for executions "imposed by military courts-martial or military tribunals and authorized by the president of the United States."

"Enemy combatants could be affected by this regulation," said Sheldon Smith, a spokesman for the US Army.

Only 10 war-on-terror detainees have so far been charged and referred to special military commissions for trial, and the United States is not seeking the death penalty in any of those cases.

<snip>

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/stor...
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:33 PM
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43. I'm gonna be sick...eom
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:09 PM
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46. first they came for the Guantanamo detainees and I wasn't a detainee
so I did not speak out.

Then they came for the Democratic Underground and...
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 07:46 PM
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41. Me thinks
As deeply concerned as any one here, I am, but consider imposing wide spread martial law, and hauling off dissenters of this administration, the majority of americans, without considering a large scale revolution bringing the economy to a halt, while leaving this country wide open for any adversary to take advantage of it.
I realize that the law is enforced here by the people who live and work, play and pray here, and are members of our families, no different than any one of us.
hitler singled out those of us with a Jewish blood line, what are these bum fucks going to do? single us out for our thought line ? I don't think so.
And as for the second amendment, its still in effect. Peace

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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:30 PM
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52. i think it's more like-bomb iran or something-oil goes to $200/barel
food too expensive to transport some places/major scarey riots/martial law -they shut down all communications to that region-just a thought
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:48 PM
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54. Yes, go for it, or run from it
See you in the future.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:03 PM
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42. will a representative or senator pull some punches here?
pull the purse strings ...

George says it's our money.


Things are way out of control.

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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:58 PM
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44. I'd like to see the wording on this contract compared to the last one.
If you can trust the media reports, this is a renewal of the contract they landed with ICE in 2000. So, did they collect $385 million from 2000-2005 for doing next ot nothing other than being on stand-by? This reads like it's quite an expanded version with lots of contingency plans.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/prn/texas/3608687.h...

ARLINGTON, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 24, 2006--KBR announced today that the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) component has awarded KBR an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contingency contract to support ICE facilities in the event of an emergency. KBR is the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton (NYSE:HAL).

With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five-year term, consisting of a one-year based period and four one-year options, the competitively awarded contract will be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Fort Worth District. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005.

"We are especially gratified to be awarded this contract because it builds on our extremely strong track record in the arena of emergency operations support," said Bruce Stanski, executive vice president, KBR Government and Infrastructure. "We look forward to continuing the good work we have been doing to support our customer whenever and wherever we are needed."

The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs. The contingency support contract provides for planning and, if required, initiation of specific engineering, construction and logistics support tasks to establish, operate and maintain one or more expansion facilities.

The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. In the event of a natural disaster, the contractor could be tasked with providing housing for ICE personnel performing law enforcement functions in support of relief efforts.

....


Want another one to worry about? WTF is the Heritage Foundation doing in discussions about expanding DHS to regional offices?

http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=33225&d...

The Homeland Security Department should establish regional offices to better support emergency responders in the event of a major terrorist attack or other catastrophe, experts said Monday.

The department has said it intends in this fiscal year to begin developing a regional structure, an idea long championed by former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge. Proponents say regional offices would better incorporate state and local officials' needs into the department's plans and would improve coordination of multi-jurisdiction response efforts, which are often ad hoc or uneven.

Experts at a Heritage Foundation discussion agreed that regional offices are needed to aid state and local responders but differed over questions such as whether aspects of the effort should be outsourced to private companies.

snip>

The two differed over the role of private industry in the effort. Moore said administration of a "regional contingency support system" comprising 10 offices around the country should be contracted out to the private sector, which he said is "more agile" and has "greater resources" than government.

"Industry hasn't been as prominent a player as they ought to be," Moore said. "I would suggest that we outsource - that shakes a lot of people, I know - a lot of support services."

....
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:29 PM
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50. Heritage Foundation will be the "Abramoff" of the western GOP via DHS
HF is a western GOP org that raises funds for Repugs, who then pass laws to trash the environment and give natural resource rapists and developers a free hand in our national forests, BLM lands, wildlife refuges (ANWR), parks and so on. There is a revolving door between HF and GOP officials. My guess is HF would love to have a hand in those regional, a.k.a. western, DHS offices under BushCo, which are likely to come with hefty budgets and big accounts for those in charge. HF will provide the personnel to head western DHS offices while it continues to fundraise for GOP candidates that will help HF's agenda:
rape and pillage of our national lands. :grr:
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:27 AM
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65. Yes, and the HF is well backed and funded by the Rapture/End Times
"fundie" crowd. I am extremely uncomfortable with their deep involvement in gov't policy since the usurpers blew into the WH. I'd like to know if there was such a contract/contingency plan prior to the KBR 2000 contract. KBR was given a contract in 2000, well before 9-11, well before DHS. Was it only shortly before the 2000 selection? When did all this contingient prison planning start? :scared: :tinfoilhat:
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 08:57 PM
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79. Comparing 2000 & 2005 KBR contracts
This is a hugely expanded version of the contract. The original KBR contract w/ICE ran from 2000-2004 and was worth $5.7 million dollars. The 2000 contract was also to prepare for "emergency influxes of immigrants," however, during all 4 years, KBR was only used once, to provide some detention officers to escort detainees. That's it. In spite of the fact the past contract was never used, DHS "remains concerned" about the possibility of massive immigration, and has decided to expand the program by $300+ million dollars. The 2005 contract asks KBR to be on standby to supply & build temporary facilities to house a sudden surge of immigrants. I guess it depends on whether you believe that's what this contract is for. Maybe there is a real danger of large numbers of refugees coming to the US, or maybe this is a way to throw large amounts of money at Halliburton for nothing, or maybe there's another reason.

DHS concerned about possibility of sudden immigration influx

http://www.gsnmagazine.com/aug_05/DHS_influx.html
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 11:23 PM
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84. Thanks Marie26! I couldn't find anything on the 2000 contract. That is
quite an expansion in both the pay and scope of the project. Sure smells fishy...I'd still like to know how/if this was contracted out before 2000. Was this outsourcing adventure on ICE the brain child of Cheney/Bush or did it exist before? :shrug:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 10:43 AM
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87. maybe BushCo thinks they're out of office soon--get the $$ while they can
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:17 PM
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47. ouch
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:22 PM
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48. where is that POS Hillary Clinton on this issue?
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:30 PM
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51. They are using old Japanese Internment Camps
A few weeks ago my grand son's father (not my son) who is in a Federal Pen said he was being transfered to another location only 30 miles away from where we live...Only problem was there is no prison at this location...so I did some checking there was an old Japanese Intetenment Camp there and low and behold it had undergone a lot of changes recently....

FEMA Concentration Camps:
Locations and Executive Orders
Friends of Liberty (undated) 3sep04
< Below: U.S. Concentration Camps: FEMA and the REX 84 Program - The Awakening News (undated) 3sep04>

There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want to be on Ashcroft's list. The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

<http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration... >


From another article:
SNIP: CCA is the nation's largest owner and operator of privatized correctional and detention facilities and one of the largest prison operators in the United States, behind only the federal government and three states. The Company currently operates 63 facilities, including 38 company-owned facilities, with a total design capacity of approximately 71,000 beds in 19 states and the District of Columbia. The Company specializes in owning, operating and managing prisons and other correctional facilities and providing inmate residential and prisoner transportation services for governmental agencies.

<http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/051221/20051221005451.html?.v=1 >
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 05:05 AM
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57. "an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S."
? what the hell does that even mean ?
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 06:10 AM
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58. It means
they can't very well come out and say their building camps to hold Americans. I think it has more to do with a sudden collapse of the economy such as an abrupt fall of the dollar should Iran open its Bourse or other countries shedding the dollar should we attack Iran. There are a couple of scenerios that could cause a lot of people to lose their homes and jobs. On Monday's SmirkingChimp.com, Mike Whitney quoted an economist who mentioned vast numbers of such people starving in the street with nothing to be done about it. I think it's about that if anything.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 09:02 PM
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80. According to DHS -
They cite examples like when Cuba shipped thousands of prisoners here in 1980, or when thousands of people fleed Haiti & Central America after political unrest. I just don't get why the ICE can't handle these cases themselves. Why bring Halliburton into it? When did Halliburton become experts in this type of thing anyway - I thought they were just an oil company?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 10:47 AM
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89. obviously, Hollowburden has become more than BigOil, it's now Big Develop-
ment in every way: military bases, water supplies, detention centers...

Bush/Cheney must get richer! along with their cronies
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 10:49 AM
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90.  the Mexicans will be housed to provide BushCo with slave labor?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 02:40 PM
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95. Salon article: Gulf Coast slaves (camps for KBR labor?)
Edited on Thu Jan-26-06 03:02 PM by Marie26
"Gulf Coast Slaves" - Halliburton and its subcontractors hired hundreds of undocumented Latino workers to clean up after Katrina -- only to mistreat them and throw them out without pay.

"Martinez, 16, speaks no English; his mother tongue is Zapotec. He had left the cornfields of Oaxaca, Mexico, four weeks earlier for the promise that he would make $8 an hour, plus room and board, while working for a subcontractor of KBR, a wholly owned subsidiary of Halliburton that was awarded a major contract by the Bush administration for disaster relief work... But three weeks after arriving at the naval base from Texas, Martinez's boss, Karen Tovar, a job broker from North Carolina who hired workers for a KBR subcontractor called United Disaster Relief, booted him from the base and left him homeless, hungry and without money.

"Immigrants rights groups and activists like Bill Chandler, president of the Mississippi Immigrant Rights Alliance, estimate that hundreds of undocumented workers are on the Gulf Coast military bases, a claim that the military and Halliburton/KBR deny -- even after the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency turned up undocumented workers in a raid of the Belle Chasse facility last month. Visits to the naval bases and dozens of interviews by Salon confirm that undocumented workers are in the facilities. Still, tracing the line from unpaid undocumented workers to their multibillion-dollar employers is a daunting task. A shadowy labyrinth of contractors, subcontractors and job brokers, overseen by no single agency, have created a no man's land where nobody seems to be accountable for the hiring -- and abuse -- of these workers.

"Right after Katrina barreled through the Gulf Coast, the Bush administration relaxed labor standards, creating conditions for rampant abuse, according to union leaders and civil rights advocates. ... These moves allowed Halliburton/KBR and its subcontractors to hire undocumented workers and pay them meager wages (regardless of what wages the workers may have otherwise been promised).

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/11/15/halliburto...

I think this is where the answer lies. So the Immigrations & Customs Enforcement agency has to raid KBR facilities where illegal aliens are being imported & exploited - yet then decides to turn around and give KBR a contract to build facilities for housing illegal immigrants?? WTF? Why would an agency whose goal is stopping illegal immigration decide to use a company they just raided for importing illegal immigrants?? So illegal aliens can build their own detention centers? I'm almost certain that this connection is what's really behind this new contract. (Just not sure exactly how).

How's this for a scenario. KBR also has the contract to clean up the wreckage after Hurricane Katrina. The Bush Adm. knows they're going to need to spend tons of money cleaning up the Gulf Coast. They also know that they'll have trouble finding the labor, since the working class has largely left NOLA. Halliburton wants to make as much $$$ on the clean-up as they can - so they'll try to use the cheapest labor they can find. Who will work long hours, not complain, and live in substandard conditions? Immigrants. But their labor camps keep getting raided by the ICE. Very inconvenient. So they wait until the new Bush crony is recess appointed as head of the ICE, and make a deal. Halliburton will be able to construct "detention centers," on the taxpayer dime, to house its workers while they're cleaning up the Gulf Coast. These are "temporary shelters" to be constructed "as needed," away from the local authorities. As soon as the work is done, the shelters are dismantled, and the workers are deported by the ICE back to Latin America - unpaid. Halliburton makes pure profit, so they're happy - the clean up is done, so the Bush Adm. is happy. The enslaved immigrants are unhappy, but what are they going to do? I truly think that this is what's going on.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 09:18 AM
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60. How Much More Can They Get From Us
till we're completely, and utterly broke?

Oh, wait... we're already past that part. Wake-up America, please...
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 09:27 AM
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61. Silver lining: they'll water down the Zyklon B. n/t
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 09:27 AM
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62. The United States of KBR. eom
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:09 AM
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63. And THAT, my friends, is fascism
pure and simple -- when govt ceases to have the people of a nation as its primary focus and instead operates of, by and for CORPORATIONS. There are, of course, other hallmarks of fascism. One of the best compilations of characteristics is this one, I think. Read it (esp. if you've never seen it before). You won't be sorry you did:

Fascism Anyone? by Laurence W. Britt
http://secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&pa...
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:26 AM
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64. Let me quote Marr from the GD thread:
"This is just a way to steal money *AND* be able to say 'we increased funding for border security.'

That's why the release is worded as it is. They figure it's a win/win."

Easy, guys and gals. Even BushCo isn't insane enough to try and pull some of the stuff you've been worrying about.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:42 AM
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67. Actually he is. And remember, keep money that isn't in the banks.
Edited on Wed Jan-25-06 10:48 AM by superconnected
Freezing bank accounts is what the bush administration started doing to terrorists a few years ago.

I know we're not terrorists, well sort of. Since some of us go to peace rallies, the wingnuts consider that anti-america.

One more note, gee secret prisons, secret trials, spying on us illegally, locking people up and fighting that they should even have trials, supporting torture, being anti-gay, anti-black and anti-imigrant. I think it's kind of knaive to think that even though the pieces are falling in place, *they* who support all this secret gastapo b.s. can be trusted, not to do unthinkable acts to people. They already are.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:56 AM
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68. I wonder - any other time
I would have to agree, but in my 65 years this is the first time I've seen anything quite like this administration. If you're not scared - you should be.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:54 PM
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72. you mean believe the meme Trust Us?
nope :tinfoilhat:
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 11:45 AM
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69. bump
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:53 PM
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71. "or to support the rapid development of new programs,"
we are completely hosed! The camps are coming the camps are coming!!! I'm changing my name to Kassandra! :scared:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 07:07 PM
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76. Clearly there are plans to round up all dissenters
Once the vocal opposition is silenced, the "moderates" will be fearful enough to pose no problems for Bush for when he is proclaimed President for Life.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:58 PM
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73. Where are they going to build the new reeducation centers?
San Francisco, Berkeley, Los Angeles?
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 05:43 PM
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74. kick to the top for freedom
:kick:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 06:44 PM
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75. REX 84
more at:

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration...

FEMA Concentration Camps:
Locations and Executive Orders
Friends of Liberty (undated) 3sep04
< Below: U.S. Concentration Camps: FEMA and the REX 84 Program - The Awakening News (undated) 3sep04>


There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want to be on Ashcroft's list. The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.


Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.

Now let's review the justification for any actions taken...

Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:...

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990
allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995
allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997
allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998
allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 07:35 PM
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77. GitMo detention center built BEFORE 9/11
Guantanamo Contract With Halliburton Made During Cheney's Tenure; Spawned Secret Detention Camps Worldwide

A contract awarded to a Halliburton subsidiary in June 2000 while Vice President Dick Cheney was still at the helm of the firm spawned the detention centers at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, RAW STORY has discovered.

Halliburton to build new $30 million Guantanamo jail

The contract, which allocated funds for emergency construction capabilities at worldwide locations, authorized the Defense Department to award Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown & Root any number of specific naval construction deals abroad.

Pegged at an estimated maximum of $75 million in 2000, the deal mushroomed to $136 million by 2004. Some $58 million was dedicated to detention centers at Guantanamo Bay alone, with another $30 million in a second contract.

Specific contracts for the Guantanamo facilities were not inked until February of 2002. Cheney served as chief executive of the company from 1995 until July 2000, leaving shortly thereafter to join the Bush campaign.

The original deal, signed under Clinton, was also used for typhoon damage and breakwater repair of military bases abroad. After the invasion of Afghanistan, the Administration drew upon the open-ended agreement to construct detention centers at the U.S. Guantanamo Bay naval base for suspected members of Al Qaeda.


(more)
http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/gtmo_halliburton_co...

I sooner think the Clinton deal was intended for "typhoon damage and breakwater repair" rather than for torturing detainees.

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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 09:12 PM
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81. The Detention Act of 1950
The Detention Act of 1950


In 1950, Congress, concerned about communism, passed the Detention Act of 1950. The Detention Act of 1950 (the "Act") can be found in the series of books called the "Statutes at Large" in any law library. This law gave the government the capability to arrest and detain those people or groups which were deemed to be subversive and a threat to the government of the United States, and hold people in detention camps around the country.

As the concern over the conflict in Korea grew, Congresss anxiety over the existence of communist groups located in the United States also grew. A survey was ordered to assess available confinement facilities in the United States. The Department of Justice recommended that the camps located at Army and Airforce bases, and former prisoner-of-war camps, be made available to be used as detention camps. It was also determined that it would also be more cost effective to repair existing camps than it would be to build new camps. In 1952, Congress appropriated $775,000 for the activation and rehabilitation of six camps.

These six camps were located at : Florence, Arizona; Wickenberg, Arizona; Avon Park, Florida; Allenwood, Pennsylvania; El Reno, Oklahoma; and Tule Lake, California. After the Korean conflict ended, the need for these camps also ended. In 1959, Tule Lake Camp was turned over to the General Services Administration. Wickenberg Camp was turned over to the city. Avon Park Camp became the Avon Park Correctional Institution. Twenty acres of the Florence Camp became a Federal detention center for people serving short sentences. El Reno remained under the control of the Bureau of Prisons. Allenwood Camp is now used as a regular federal prison camp for minimum security prisoners.

By the end of the 1960s, sixteen bills had been submitted to repeal the "Act". The public opinion was growing against the "Act" in that the public felt that the government could not be trusted to protect the civil rights of those people arrested under this law. One portion of the Detention Act of 1950 which was the cause of great concern read:

Sec. 103. (a) Whenever there shall be in existence such an emergency, the President, acting through the Attorney General, is hereby authorized to apprehend and by order detain, pursuant to the provisions of this title, each person as to whom there is reasonable ground to believe probably will engage in, or probably will conspire with others to engage in, acts of espionage or of sabotage,

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/civdc.htm
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 09:42 PM
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83. This law has since been repealed
Edited on Wed Jan-25-06 09:50 PM by Marie26
The Emergency Detention Act was repealed in 1971 & replaced w/the Non-Detention Act, which prohibits the detention of US citizens w/o cause. Your link does not mention that. It's true that a Congressman introduced a bill in 2003 called the "Enemy Combatants Act" to allow these detentions, but that bill was not passed. (Sorry to be so annoying, but I don't think this Act should be cited as if it's current law.)

In 1971, Congress passed legislation which requires specific congressional authorization for the detention of U.S. citizens. Codified in 18 U.S.C. 4001(a), the Non-Detention Act expressly states: No citizen shall be imprisoned or otherwise detained by the United States except pursuant to an Act of Congress.

http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=15114
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 09:41 PM
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82. Combined with the Military now getting to execute prisioners.
Edited on Wed Jan-25-06 09:43 PM by superconnected
I'm must say the 4th reich is progressing quickly.

How long till we lock up the immigrants, gays, democratic authors, anchors, and politicians, and all anti-war liberals?
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 08:58 AM
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86. I needed the link
:dem:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 10:44 AM
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:09 AM
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96. Guess we better be nice to junior or the O meanie will get us, eh?
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:07 AM
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97. This is stupe. nt.
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