Drug Raid At S.C. High School

[UpInArms]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/07/national/main582492.shtml

(CBS) Gun-toting police burst into a South Carolina high school, ordering students to lie down in hall ways as they searched for drugs. The commando-style raid has parents questioning the wisdom of police tactics.

The raid occurred Wednesday at Stratford High School in Goose Creek, S.C. Surveillance video obtained by CBS Affiliate WCSC in Charleston shows the police waving their guns and searching lockers as students lie flat on their stomachs or sides.

The school's principal defends the dramatic sweep, caught on the school's surveillance tape. Police came into the school with guns at the ready, ordered all students to lie on the floor and then handcuffed anyone who apparently didn't comply quickly enough.

<snip>

"I was just upset knowing they had guns put to their head and a K9 was barking at them and about to bite somebody. It was awful," parent Latonia Simmons told WCSC.

...more...

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. What is the ethnic makeup of the school?

Why do I think I can guess?

[gWbush is Mabus]

3. may be regular suburbia

The Post And Courier newspaper in Charleston reports the high school is one of the largest in the state with 2,760 students. It has an academic reputation as oneo the Lowcountry's best.


3K kids and they didn't find one drug.

[demigoddess]

30. These guys are absolutely nuts,

If they really thought there were drugs there they should have had a fire drill and got all the students out and then searched the lockers. But how big a drug problem could they have if they did not find a single thing?

[Rowdyboy]

14. Ethnic makeup of the city of Goose Creek

(population 29,000) is 78.%% white, only 14% black

http://goosecreek.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm

There is plenty wrong here, but automatically assuming racism is not always pertinent.

[arcane1]

2. a pic

on edit- was this Rush's school?

"We received reports from staff members and students that there was a lot of drug activity. Recently we busted a student for having over 300 plus prescription pills. The volume and the amount of marijuana coming into the school is unacceptable," said principal George McCrackin."

[tridim]

11. Ironically, if the cops would sit down,

relax and smoke a joint maybe they wouldn't be such fascist assholes.

That pic really pisses me off. If I was a student in that situation I'd tell each of those cops to go f*ck themselves.

[kayell]

13. OMG

Watch the video tape. (as an aside - I can't believe the video starts out with a f-ing walmart commercial :grr:) but watch the video anyway. I just don't have the vocabulary to describe the outrage that I feel for these students.

[Lars39]

15. Reminds me of pics of Columbine HS. Chilling, and just SO wrong.

I'd sue these idiots up one side and down another.

[dArKeR]

17. I can't believe this! Our nation has gone nuts!

[joeunderdog]

89. Dem or Repuke--this is SO FUCKING WRONG!

How does any American trash the very concept we've championed for 200+ years? Bipartisan, American rights, the Constitution and all its Ammendments--when did it become OK to allow the marginalization (or pure undoing) of all of this? This is FUCKIN AMERICA!!!

It's too easy to just blame Bush. He's just selling it.

Who's buying this shit?

[pretzel4gore]

23. George McCrackin eh...

surely someone will deal with him.....surely! what kind of country lets its kids get brutalized by busybodies (cops)?

[saigon68]

35. These Stormtroopers should go to IRAQ-Nam

That way when they pull their guns out someone might shoot their sorry ass.

Then they could die for their country. I love the guy in the Marine haircut above.

All bullshit and swagger, but alas probably never heard of Parris Island---LOL

And if he did wouldn't be pointing a gun at the kids head

[Lefty48197]

49. Hmmm, maybe they should have used prescription sniffing dogs?

At least that seems to make more sense, at first glance.

[Lefty48197]

53. The lower left shows a cop kneeling on a kids back

His backpack must have really smelled like marijuana.

[MissMarple]

4. The principal showed incredibly bad judgement, potentially endangering.

children. I wonder if the school board had been appraised of this beforehand? They are the ones ultimately responsible, whether they knew or not. And what were the police THINKING?

[BiggJawn]

10. Who's saying the police were thinking?

They were too busy waving their steel penises in all the kids faces.

"Police Academy" meets "The Blues Brothers"...Did they go "HUT-HUT-HUT-HUT-HUT" when they "Took" the school?

[joeunderdog]

90. Here come the lawsuits. The ACLU will be all over this, thankfully.

It would be hard to justify the risk/benefit of Police State tactics in the mainstream, but this was done to helpless children and in the absence of imminent risk. (The Police actually supplied the risk.)

I can just see the headlines "Police Gunplay--saving schoolchildren from the horrors of marijuana."

Gimme a break.

[BiggJawn]

5. I'd pull my kid out.

And I'd tell the school board "If Stratford is such a dangerous place that the police have to 'raid' the school with dogs and drawn weapons, then it's too dangerous a place for my daughter to attend..."

So the dogs "posted" or whatever they call it on "a dozen" backpacks. This in a school of 2,700 students. Sure sounds like there's tons of weed moving in and out everyday to me.

Draco-Orwellian to the max!

[jayfish]

6. We Are Living In A Police State.

I'll tell you what, If I was a parent of one of these kids I'd be saying a hell of a lot more than "It was awful". These motherfuckers (The issuer of the search warrant and the principal) should lose their goddamn jobs over this.

Jay

[GoddessOfGuinness]

7. Where are the WMDs...Where are the drugs?

This isn't the last "pre-emptive strike" we'll see as long as Dumbyass remains in the WH.

When I was in high school, I didn't touch weed; but I'll bet dogs could smell it on my belongings simply because I walked through residual pot smoke on the way to classes.

I'd be interested in hearing more parents reactions to this gross violation of civil rights.

[Zenaholic]

8. Don't they have some real CRIMINALS to bust???

<snip>
Goose Creek police and school administrators defend the draconian measures as necessary for crime prevention.
</snip>

Draconian is right!

The war on drugs is a war on the citizens of America.

[notadmblnd]

9. I think the parents need to get together and

sue the school district and police department. Someone give Jeff Fieger a call, he'd be great for this case.

[skewthat]

12. HOLY SHIT!!!!!

Jesus christ get me out of this country!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

16. If I WERE THESE PARENTS...I would take my kid to a shrink

get a diagnosis, file a lawsuit against the school, school district and the police for post-traumatic stress and personally SUE the principle.

I REALLY HOPE an SC lawyer is reading this thread.

[DUreader]

18. Many of these kids are no doubt traumatized right now

maybe that was the point of this action

coming soon to a school near you? Gotta get these kids prepared for

the coming crackdown so it will seem like no big deal to them?

[benfranklin1776]

46. I concur wholly.

A textbook lesson in creeping fascism and militaristic policing learned the hard way at the business end of a gun held close to the head. Nothing like a little stormtrooper 101 to show students why preserving the constitution is necessary to securing their future personal health and well-being. Time for a lawsuit indeed. Excessive force, reckless endangerment and negligent and intentional infliction of emotional distress come to mind as potential state law claims, not to mention the potential civil rights action stemming from the wholesale violation of each student's absolute right to be free from an unreasonable search and seizure. "Round em all up and throw em on the floor" style raids are precisely what the fourth amendment prohibits. The legal requirement that there be individualized and particularized suspicion of a persons involvement in criminal activity is a deliberate safeguard crafted for the precise purpose of ensuring that people are not routinely subjected to this type of gross violation of their basic human rights.

[DS1]

19. That's just f*cking ridiculous, even our searches in bootcamp weren't

that bad. This was also in an environment where the gov't controlled and owned everything we do/posses. There's too much gung-ho in this country, and not enough reason.

Also, K9 "units" are unreliable, I wouldn't trust one with my kid for half a second.

[Dogmudgeon]

78. Too much "Gung-Ho"?

Way too much Dinky-Dow!

--bkl

[_NorCal_D_]

20. UTTERLY SICKENING

Although I am a kid who has never touched drugs, it would be a cold day in hell before I let them search me fascist style. I would sooner go to prison. :grr: :grr:

[lumpy]

21. How to create anti-authoritarians

Burst into a school with drawn guns, police dogs and have everyone down on the floor with drawn guns pointing at their heads. Either scare the hell out of those kids or create a vengeful resentment.

[Eric J in MN]

70. or it could do the opposite

They may think, if I had to endure this, then other violations of civil liberties are minor by comparison.

[havocmom]

88. Violent, repressive regimes are what give birth to violent insurgencies

Guess the violence of our foreign-policy-from-hell isn't causing enough hate, discontent, and arm sales. We need to do it wholesale in the homeland too. Instill as much fear in the malable as possible while inspiring those with backbones to get mad enough to fight and give the neocons-neanderthals reason to come outta the closet with their martial law wet dreams. They want a war here too.

Using this sort of tactics against unarmed teens is a sure fire way to prove that the inmates are running the asylum. This emboldens the sickies to more open aggression and helps them recurit more who are just eager for a license to bust heads. Further division of the masses: the sane and resonable vs the id-less thugs.

If you wanna find drugs, you do the homework, narrow the targets, specify suspects, get warrents. It is called rule of law. If what they are trying to do is enforce the law, do it by the law! If they are just honing the tricks the DOJ has been teaching about utilizing the Patriot Act aginst ordinary criminal activity, time for a little massive PTA intervention.

"Is this the face of Homeland Security?" would be a great message to put out there for the sheeple.

[Emboldened Chimp]

22. What would've happened if someone did object

to being terrorized like this? Would the cops force them to the floor? Beat them? What if one of these trigger-happy fools saw a kid reach into his pocket? Would the cop shoot? Would we have blood on the floor, too?

I'm at a loss. This is a sad, sad day for America.

[theHandpuppet]

63. From watching tonight's (NBC) news coverage....

... I understand that at least 16 students were handcuffed and during the video replay I saw at least one student forcefully grabbed and thrown. (Watch the whole replay and keep an eye on the bottom left corner of the screen.) You can also see some terrified kids forced to the floor under the threat of loaded guns.

I've got one word for those jackboots: LAWSUIT!

It's times like this I'm glad I AM a card-carrying member of the ACLU. I'd highly recommend that all DUers contribute to (if possible) or join the ACLU -- before it's too late for us all.

[Whoa_Nelly]

24. How much pot???

The volume and the amount of marijuana coming into the school is unacceptable," said principal George McCrackin.

So, tell us, George...What would be an "acceptable" volume and amount of marijuana to come into the school so these kids don't have to undergo Ashcroft tactics again?

[Beaker]

32. I'm not normally a litigious person-

and I don't feel that kids have any right to privacy in terms of their use of the school's lockers, but the parents of the innocent need to sue the shit out of that school.

[Pompitous_Of_Love]

25. They're getting what they asked for

Every parent of students at Goose Creek who votes Republican has no moral authority to voice any kind of outrage about this search. THIS is the America these assholes voted to create. The only mistake the cops made, from many Republican voters' perspectives, was raiding a majority-white high school. This kind of thing is only supposed to occur in inner-city ghetto schools. En-fucking-joy this, Rethug voters. You earned it.

[bushisanidiot]

26. Funny, Most Of The Kids In The Video Are Black. Guess the cops didn't both

er going to where the white kids were hanging out.

white cops, guns, dogs, white principal, black students being thrown to the floor (did you see that SWAT guy tackle that black kid?!).

racist dolts!

[Pompitous_Of_Love]

34. Haven't seen the video

Someone mentioned up-thread that the student body there is about 80% white. If they focused on the black kids to the exclusion of the white kids, then that's just...par for the course in South Carolina.

[saigon68]

39. Time to discipline the uppity Negroes </sarcasm>

Those white cops still get a thrill out of stopping a car driven by a black guy who has a white woman in his car and strip searching him and the car. I know -- my cousin is married to a black art teacher and this happens at least twice a year. SICKENING.

[Corgigal]

27. Happy others are commenting on this

Get this, my daughter is suppose to go to this HS next year. I'm telling you, 97 percent of the kids in that video are black. If you look at the tape you will see adult, women (2) taping this goat fuck. This was a felony stop on kids. Also my husband is a retired cop and we are not buying what this Goose Creek Police Dept is selling.

I have already saved the tape to digital and I'm going to be sending it to the ACLU or anyone someone can think of. My husband and I will not allow this to stand.

I so want to move out of this nuthouse.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

29. Is there a link to the tape?

The picture accompanying the story was muddled; but it appeared as if most of the students were black.

Is the school majority black? Were there other halls raided in this fashion, or only that one at that particular time?

Regardless of race, what the police did was wrong; but if there is evidence that they're targeting black students... :grr:

[Corgigal]

31. This school isnt black

its around 80 percent white 20 percent black. I don't know but we are calling around to see how these certain children were selected.

Look at the tape. You can get it off the CBS link. A white adult woman is taping it. Another woman is taking pictures of it. Other adults are watchign from outside of two glass doors. This was a flipping staged event. But the guns were real and the kids weren't notified. We are still checking.

[jbutsz]

28. searches

"Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

I'm no civil-rights attorney, but...

Did they have a warrant for searching the school grounds/lockers issued from a judge based on the probable cause they cited?

If not, or if it was invited/consensual via the Principle, they still cannot detain and search the children without warrants for each child's person and property (backpacks).

If they can do this, they can go into a mall and have every patron lined up and searched at gun-point just for being there that day. (Never mind for the moment that Wal-Mart already does at their exits, sans guns)

Throwing this sort of "net" around a group of people to make their "job" easier screams totalitarianism and is wholly unconstitutional if you place any value whatsoever on the what and why the bill of rights was penned.

Apparently we as a nation no longer value these rights, we fuss here and there but most submit to authority out of fear.

[Lefty48197]

51. That amendment was repealed by AG Nancy Reagan

years ago. There is no longer any law against illegal search and seizure.

[Kelvin Mace]

79. Unfortunately

no warrant is required since the prinicpal "invited" them onto the grounds.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Black Friday - The name given to October 26th, 2001, the day George W. Bush signed the "USA Patriot Act" which marked the end of the United States as a democratic republic, and its emergence as a police state. The only senator to oppose the bill was Russ Feingold, a Wisconsin senator, who was assassinated 3 years later by agents of the Homeland Security Office for "seditious criticism of the State."

Encylopedia Britannica, 2162 CE edition

[DemoTex]

33. Reefer Madness ...

The school principal (I saw this embarassing piece on both local and national news tonight) looked like a right wing idiot. What a jerk. On the local news he went on and on over the evils of marijuana.

[karlschneider]

38. I saw that too. This guy had an Asscroftian glint.

sheesh...

[DemoTex]

40. Bingo, Karl!

A$$croft Junior in rural SC. Now that I live in the NC mountains, I get all that crap on local TV.

[moondust]

36. Terrists win!

They've got these people using Gestapo tactics on school kids.

[karlschneider]

37. I saw one of the gestapo on the news. A buzz-cut prick who defended

their actions. I WAS a cop back in the early 60s, working my way through college, and I recognize his type. Wanted to be a Marine and kill people but either had a 'record' or was too fucking stupid to get in. So he settled on the 'next best thing'...and now gets his nuts off terrorizing kids. It's a power trip, nothing more, nothing less. It is a very good thing for that bunch and for me too that I'm a thousand miles away...god damn Fascist bastards.

If I had a child in that situation, somebody would be in very dire danger. That is not a threat, it is a promise.

[Oilwellian]

41. This is horrifying

Why on earth would they enter the school with weapons drawn? I know my sons high school had drug raids, but they were always done while the kids were in class, the hallways were cleared, and drug dogs were brought in to basically sniff lockers and cars in the parking lot. The kids were NEVER in direct contact with the police.

After viewing the CBS tape, I'm just shocked beyond words. The kids were IN FUCKING SCHOOL for chrissake. The weren't breaking ANY LAWS when they were walking in the hallway. This could have turned into a huge tragedy and I'm so damned thankful it didn't turn out that way. Damn!

[Lefty48197]

52. The cop spokesman said they drew the guns because

they were afraid some kid would be so afraid of getting caught with drugs, that he would do something to harm the cops. Of course none of the kids had drugs, but that's beside the point.
Let's arrest all the kiddies at gun point IN CASE they have drugs, and if they make any sudden movements, we'll just shoot them.
That principal and police chief should be fired before sunrise.

[Occulus]

75. And guess what?

They're not being taught about what their civil liberties really mean, and when you combine that very forgivable ignorance with intimidating actions such as these, well... we'll be a totalitarian fascist dictatorship within fifteen years.

Evil always capitalizes on ignorance.

[0007]

42. Ah yes, Mr. Ashcroft is looking out for children

Must take a close look at what book these kids are reading. Ashcroft doesn't want anyone to grow to be like Bill Clinton.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

43. All it would have taken for this stupid thing to have gone even more...

...horribly wrong than it did would have been an accidental discharge from a police firearm.

[0007]

44. Give it time, Barney Knott is right around the corner!

[kodi]

45. now that will certainly make the kids feel safe in school or around cops

serpico wannabes waving guns at 15 year olds.

would they have shot a kid for running away?

no law enforcement agent unholster's his/her handgun unless they expect to have to use it. did those cops think their own lives were in danger?

if so, no one who is scared of a bunch of 15 year olds needs to be a cop.

[leftist_rebel1569]

47. THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT.

SERIOUSLY. THIS is how America treats kids in school these days. We are CONSTANTLY taken from us. Take my school for example. It's become a FUCKING PRISON. You can have ANY of your private property searched whenever and for whatever reason they want WITHOUT A WARRANT. If they even THINK that you have something in your car, they have the "right" to BREAK INTO YOUR CAR and look at whatever they want. Oh, and guess who pays the damages? THE STUDENT. This year, they had security cameras installed EVERYWHERE in the schools. They're thinking about putting in METAL DETECTORS in my school next year. You can be taken to court if you're truant for like, 4 or 5 days in the year. THAT'S RIGHT, if you don't report in with the school 4 or 5 times a year (i'm not sure what exactly), THEY'LL TAKE YOU TO COURT.

Also, in Wisconsin, a FOUR-FUCKING-HUNDRED DOLLAR police investigation was launched into a kid who stole a little cheese from the lunchroom, valued at a whopping 25 CENTS. 400 DOLLAR INVESTIGATION FOR THAT? This is what some of your tax money is going to. I'm not saying funding our schools is bad, but that is just INSANE. And now, this. THIS is how bad the war on drugs has gotten. SWAT teams are coming into schools and searching EVERYONE. WITHOUT WARRANTS. Hey, doesn't this break a certain fourth amendment to the constitution? Oh wait, the youth have virtually NO rights.

We MUST end the war on drugs NOW.

Reforms must be put in place for youth rights NOW.


(note: sorry for the excessiveness of this. But, this PISSES ME OFF, as you can tell)

[Lefty48197]

56. Yeah, but what about the strawberries?

Someone took the strawberries you know.

[EV1Ltimm]

59. har de har har

somebody has a legitimate beef and then someone else breaks out the "strawberries" line.

The next big line is out there, but you have to find it. It will not be an easy journey. It will be rife with danger and peril, but I believe in you. We believe in you.

Go man, Go!

[leftist_rebel1569]

60. Huh?

n/t

[Corgigal]

48. It is

Does anyone know, if your child wasn't part of this staged drug raid, can you think of anyway for me to sue these jackasses so they lose their jobs?

I've taken on this area before and we win but this one I'm not sure if I can interject. What scares me about living here, is how the people here just accept these types of things. Last year we had to go to bat with this same school board for punitive action against middle aged school children and won.

[AmandaRuth]

69. i am so shocked

and sorry for you. I have a daughter who will soon be in Jr. High, and can only imagine what you must be going through. I would talk to a lawyer, for the very least to demand to know that with guns drawn what type of movement would warrant firing. And what about normal teen age defiance? What if a teen stood up and said this is an illegal search, I am leaving the premises. And walked out with his hands up, would they shoot? And what about a depressed teen, maybe flips out a little, and charges the cops, would that warrant shooting? This is one of the sickest things I have seen in ages.

[Just Me]

86. Do Multiple Consultations

,...with attorneys familiar with both state and federal practice (since this situation involves both state and federal violations). And, do so immediately. Although I support the ACLU, due to the location of the incident, as a practical matter, I would avoid having them file the suit (moreover, they may file one anyway). Take notes at each consultation and make sure the attorney explains his approach. The attorney who demonstrates not only knowledge of the applicable state and federal laws but who also examines the realities of forum-shopping (favorable judge) and jury-weighing (favorable jurors) will most likely get you the best results. Once you have found an attorney, consult with all the parents whose children were subjected to that atrocity and encourage them to join you. Hope this helps!!!!

[short bus president]

50. Goose (Step) Creek, SC

home of the new 'murkin bootboy gestapo.

Sickening.

[Lefty48197]

54. It's time for the Dem candidates to speak out about this event

and say that it is absolutely one of the most asanine things they have ever witnessed. We can't let people like this have any authority anymore. It's just stupid.

[rasputin1952]

55. Where is the outrage?!!!...

If this were a school in my city, I'd be in an atty's office already drawing up Lawsuit papers! This is insanity!

There is outrage over the Ten Commandments, yet we would allow armed officers to enter a school at gunpoint and search the campus for drugs???!!! What the hell kind of Gestapo insanity is this?

Where are the parents?

Where is the tar and feathers for the Principal?

Is the situation so out of control in this school that a SWAT team has to be called in? I would not let my child go to school like that in the first place.

For all of those simpletons that allow this type of thing to happen to their children they can vote for bush and the GOP. When their child is shot by a cop in a school, they will finally know that they put the wrong people in office. What a terrible price to pay for a lesson on how bad things can get

This is an outrage, and should NEVER have been be allowed to happen.

If that principal spends another 20 minutes in that school, the parents are out of contact with reality.

:grr::grr::grr::nuke:

[Corgigal]

57. HERE

Im trying.,..let me figure it out first.

Damn, not all these kids here are republicans for god sakes. Let me find these kids and see what I can offer them. Some of the people here have been beaten down so that they don't fight.

I'll kick ass, let me line up these ducks. I just found out about it yesterday and we had no school there today because of some teacher conferences.

[rasputin1952]

64. First, I would get as many parents as possible together, ...

then hit the School Board with some pretty hard questions, i.e., what authority did the principal act upon? Does he have this authority simply because he is principal, or does he have to get with the School Board first?

Was a warrant issued, and if so was it served properly? Who issued said warrant? What was the probable cause to issue the warrant?

Then, I would get into particulars. Were there only specific students searched/observed? What ever gave this pricipal the reason to call in the police, could this not have been handled better if it was dealt with through the school and the parents? Was this such a huge problem that such a show of force was necessary? I don't think so, after all, nothing was found.

While this will be a big embarrasment for the school, and the principal in particular, it is imperative to push home that point. This overly zealous individual must be held to account.

:kick:

[OneBlueSky]

58. I saw one kid interviewed on the news . . .

who said that a cop had a gun pointed directly into his face less than a foot from him . . . the kid was black, btw . . . this whole thing is utterly disgusting and a horrific commentary on what this nation is becoming . . . the principal and the cops who authorized this should all be fired . . . I hope some parents get together and sue their asses . . .

[TahitiNut]

61. kick

[rocktivity]

62. Probable cause, please

"We received reports from staff members and students that there was a lot of drug activity. Recently we busted a student for having over 300 plus prescription pills...said (the school's)...principal...
The key words here are "busted a student." That is, they busted a SPECIFIC student without turning the school inside out. The students and staff members who made the "reports" must have had knowledge or suspicions of exactly who was involved in the drug activity. So why didn't they provide the principal and police with specific names? Instead, it was assumed that everyone was guilty--and the authorities banked on the fact that they'd get away with it because students can be deprived of their civil rights under the guise of "grownups" doing "what's best" for them.

Police didn't find any criminals in the armed sweep, but they say K-9 dogs smelled drugs on a dozen backpacks...
If there was enough of a drug residue to smell it, then there was enough of a drug residue to recover enough of it to charge the backpack owner with possession. Give me a break--this is the equivalent of Bush saying that any surge of U.S. military deaths in Iraq should be considered a sign of progress.


rocknation

[Jazzgirl]

66. I wondered about the dogs smelling "drugs" on backpacks.

I work for a railroad and back in the mid-80's the "zero tolerance" policy on drugs and alcohol came into being. One night at work, the company Special Agents were on the property with drug sniffing dogs. They were in the parking lot checking every car. One of the employees cars was unlocked and a dog went absolutely crazy! They opened the car (didn't ask the owner permission) and let the dog jump in. Said dog found the owner's lunch and ate every bit of it. Hmmm...wonder how many peanut butter and jelly sandwiches these dogs sniffed out??!!??

The whole situation is absolutely insane and I hope parents start asking the hard questions and hiring lawyers. I know if I had a child involved in this kind of situation I'd be getting a lawyer and I'd be all over the school board for supporting the raid. There is no way this principal should be allowed to get away with it. I "assumed" the school was predominantly black because it looked like almost every student was black. Interesting how it appears only the black students were targeted.

Jazzgirl :crazy:

[Throckmorton]

77. Witnessed a similar thing at an Airport Post 9/11

Random walkthrough with a bomb dog, dog goes spastic over a women in front of me's luggage, "officer" asks her if there are any foodstuffs in the bags. Meanwhile, the place is almost in a panic, I mean, the bomb dog just alerted on a 70 year old womens bags, it's al quida fer sure. Women says no, no food, oh, my cat is in the cat carrier, she says. Dog is going nutso over the women cat, 'officer' rebukes women about not mentioning the cat right away, I mean, maybe 2 minutes have passed. Women says, 'I thought these dogs were trained', 'officer' says, "Well he is a dog lady, and walks away".

Some much for natures little bomb detectors.

[markus]

65. Leave no child's behind

unsearched.

Saw the video on Scarborough last night (don't ask; I was bored).

It was incredible. Whowever authorized it, and probably everyone involved who drew their weapon, should be criminall prosecuted for endengaring children.

[kath]

67. Yet another reason to make me SOOOOO glad we homeschool.

[KayLaw]

80. Interesting point

I guess the only sure way to keep this from happening to one's child is to home school or place the child in a nice private school. Hmmm...

[Oreegone]

68. Let him know how you feel

I suggest writing letters to the Police Chief:

H. Becker
[email protected]

The principal may have requested it, but the Police shouldn't have been stupid enough to do it.

:mad:

[JoFerret]

71. It is very disturbing

how we continue to treat our children with the utmost disrespect and total lack of respect for their dignity.

[aeon flux]

72. I asked the police chief

if he has ever read the 4th amendment. Or do rednecks there even know how to read.

[mouse7]

73. At least CNN covered this... only decent news outta this

I'm surprised CNN actually made the decision to run the story. Someone in an editorial meeting somewhere in Atlanta recognized how horrible this was.

My question... what happens if a kid HAD had a significant amount of drugs and decided to go down in a "blaze of glory?" They wouldn't need a gun to do it. Just make a "gun" with a thumb and forefinger and point. What are there? 15-20 cops on the hallway with guns drawn? That makes probably a MINIMUM of 50-60 shots firing and ricocheting through a cinderblock/concrete/metal-locker-lined hallway packed with kids. How many kids go down if 1 kid freaks out? 20? 25? 30?

All becausee some testicle-less-poor-white-trash-school-admin-stormtrooper-wannabee decides to see how he can get even with the child evil-doers that keep making fun of his haircut?

C-H-Rist almighty...

[Solly Mack]

74. oh, but they hate us for our freedom

why fear drugs when your government does this?

at least with drugs there is some measure of escape...

let's see...the illuison of freedom or the illusion of freedom....hard choice...pass the bong.

[aeon flux]

76. Kids are trouble waiting to happen

A little harassment, fear and intimidation go a long way in keeping kids off of drugs and getting them hooked on low wage jobs at Walmart!

[Zolok]

81. Hate to say it but...

Thanks to Columbine and the NRA what else can the police do but crash into your local high school like they are the Rough Rider's storming San Juan Hill?
America has been systematically turned into an armed camp nigh these last thirty years...now WHOSE armed camp it is, is another matter...but none of those cops could reasonably expect an un-armed co-operative cohort given the current vogue for school shootings.
As for the draconian drug laws passed by pay-triots who are no doubt in an altered state of consciousness thanks to Jesus, oxycontin, or Vick's Vapor Rub...that I will pass over in contemptuous silence...
Drug laws have made criminals of us all, police, civilians you name it...
***
Anyone wanna conduct some ideological warfare, get a full length copy of that tape and start screening it for High School and College Age kids in your local library or coffee house.


www.chimesatmidnight.blogspot.com

[slaveplanet]

82. Step right up-

get your slave training indoctorination... ya see...we know what's best for you critters and this is the way its going to be.. "Novus Ordo Seclorum"

[ElsewheresDaughter]

83. welcome to bush*s "new normalcy" ni live in a VERY rural school district

total 400 K-12 student body for 300 square miles ...our superintendent wants armed police officer in our elemntary building too..."resource officer" simply because it will bring in fed funds

[truthspeaker]

84. any news on this?

Has the NAACP gotten involved?

[Corgigal]

85. Local stuff

radio DJ's are saying that their will be lawsuits but I have not heard of any yet. I did contact the ACLU but I NEVER had them do crap for me, EVER. The investigative branch of the cops for the state (SLED) is investigating, no word yet.

Funny part in this. The Principal is NOW saying he didn't know they were going to draw guns out. The Police Dept is saying that's crap because they met with him and together they decided how to do this drug sweep. Sounds more "staged" daily.

My daughter heard that "certain" kids were given word on which day this was going to happen and didn't go to school that day. It's still a big story here and I'm watching.

The local school board (Whores INC) are having a private board meeting tonight but they are NOT suppose to be bringing this issue up. Like they have more important things to discuss....NOT?

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