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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:19 PM
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Bush below 40% - Zogby

http://www.thecherrycreeknews.com/content/view/339/60/

Bush below 40% - Zogby

President Bush's approval numbers are sliding again, according to pollster John Zogby:
" In the face of rising gas prices, partisan sniping over Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito, and a resumption of insurgent violence in Iraq, President Bush's job approval rating has slipped into a post-holiday funk, again dipping below 40%, a new telephone poll by Zogby International shows.

His approval rating almost mirrors the percentage of respondents (40%) who said the nation overall is headed in the right direction. The deterioration in the President's numbers appears to be the result of eroding support among the investor class and others who supported him in his 2004 re-election bid, said Pollster John Zogby, President and CEO of Zogby International. And the problem is the Iraq war - just 34% of respondents said Mr. Bush was doing a good or excellent job managing the war, down from 38% approval in a Zogby poll taken in mid-October.

Bush's overall job approval rating in that poll was at 46%.

...

"The numbers in support for the war in Iraq are extremely low among Democrats and independents," Zogby said. "This is a partisan war." While 61% of Republicans said he was doing a good job managing the war (down from 70% in October), just 11% of Democrats and 28% of independents gave him good marks in that area. Among Democrats, 71% said Bush was doing a "poor" job with the war, while 17% said he was doing only a "fair" job.

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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:20 PM
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1. So much for the Christmas bump
Happy New year Neo-con lurkers.

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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:25 PM
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2. Aww... too bad! Now I'm Depressed!
:sarcasm: :woohoo: :applause:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:47 AM
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26. LMAO!!
:rofl: :rofl:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:26 PM
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3. Keep on sniping!
"partisan sniping over Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito"
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:27 PM
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4. So, what will their response be?
Edited on Sun Jan-15-06 09:28 PM by spinbaby
More speeches?

Invade Iran?

Bomb a Pakistani village and claim they got another Al Quaida number 2 man?

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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:27 PM
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5. Time to put on a costume...
stand in front of troops, and give a stump speech. Oh, I almost forgot, orange alert, terra, terra, terra, 911, 911, 911, be scared, be very very scared!!!!:scared:
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:28 PM
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6. Won't matter...
Until Diebold's under 1%.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:34 PM
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7. Who in the hell are those Dems in the 11% favorable to bush
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:41 PM
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9. Zell Miller. He changed his voice and got polled a few times. nt.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:46 PM
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11. They Used To Call Then Boll Weevils



seems appropriate.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:06 AM
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24. weasly bunch.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:29 PM
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13. Zell Miller's clan
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:40 PM
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8. Oh, thought you meant in IQ percentile. Seemed high. nt.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:42 PM
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10. Still seems a little high
For a war criminal.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:46 PM
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12. A snake's belly is about 40%, right? n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:46 PM
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14. That's good news...
Best news I heard all day.
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:51 PM
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15. too bad bush
better exploit our Armed Forces again for political gain. You know your sheep always respond to that. I wonder what the new banner will say.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:56 PM
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16. Good news for the 2006 elections !
Let me count the ways.....:evilgrin:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:03 AM
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17. I think Murtha is having an effect on people's perception of Little Boots.
Murtha has a long distinguished record of service to his country. He gets up and says something, bush fights back in his weenie snide way, and people notice.

As for partisan sniping, let's just say it's the real patriots vs. the loyalists who are engaged in battle over this elusive weasel.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:08 AM
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18. And the democrats in congress are still afraid to stand up to him.
When are they going to realize that opposing this unpopular president will cost them nothing? There's no harm in it. F'n do it already!

The Republicans attacked and attacked and resisted Clinton at every turn, and he had popularity numbers through the roof even at the height of the Lewinsky "scandal"—don't treat this lying evil bastid any better out of "principle"!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:29 AM
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35. they have been quite mellow thus far--except a few.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:33 AM
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37. my man Schumer did not appear mellow at Scalito hearings
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:16 AM
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19. Never understood
why those that support him, don't encourage their children to go fight his wars.
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f-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:45 AM
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20. Those numbers for shrub are way too high...
if the general public would just read and listen to what is happening they'd all get a better sense of how far this country has sunk and that slimey little bastard out on his pampered ass!!!!
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:50 AM
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21. jklhk;
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:54 AM
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22. Democrats need 2 get a clue
from the Dem numbers and the INVASION & occupation of Iraq. It is NOT a war let alone a partisan one!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:05 AM
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23. oh gawd, now probably more speeches!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:35 AM
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38. *speech: 911, freedom, democracy in Iraq, 911,911, al qaeda, al qaeda, 911
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:07 AM
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25. nominate
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:10 AM
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27. "resumption of insurgent violence"??
I believe it has never fucking stopped asshole.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:44 AM
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28. Despite the TV sycophants pumping him up. I hope people...
are beginning to wake up, and I wish our press would acknowledge that this illegitimate ass is a failed leader, who's leading us down the road to disaster.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:01 AM
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29. This son of a bitchdog * has been lucky so far
To still have numbers this high. If the winter had been truly wicked, the heating bills and rising gas prices would have sank lil georgie*.
As it is I believe the numbers are too high and don't reflect the true sentiment, but being a Zogby poll I'll accept it.

Hello to all of you joining us, welcome to the fight, tell your friends and neighbors, LET'S GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS.
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Glidescube Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:03 AM
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30. I thought you were talking about his IQ
I was shocked you didn't know that till I realized you were talking about approval ratings.
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:48 AM
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31. Zogby Poll:53% say IMPEACH! for spying on Americans!
This latest poll was posted at Democrats.com blog over the wk-end. (May come up as Nov'05 poll,scroll down to NEW poll of Jan.2006) Check out the details,in the original stats.. and be enCouraged! WooHooo!
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:05 AM
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32. I've heard both numbers for gas this year;
Staying the same or on the other hand going up to or past what they were in October. If the latter, the soft numbers will go back to 30's for support. Then with all the trials scheduled to be this year that will bring those numbers lower. This year will probably have the 3000'th combat death in Iraq. I don't see shrub's numbers going lower than 30 though. There are that many people that would support him if he knifed an old woman on tv!
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:12 AM
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33. If only I had answered my Zogby poll in time...Shrub's numbers would even
be lower. (Note to self: next time, do NOT procrastinate.) We can NOT leave it up to Rasmussen or Tweety's polls to TRULY tell us Shrub's "numbers" anymore.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:19 AM
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34. impeachment
This has to be part of our everyday conversations. We have to make this subject foremost in our conversations about national affairs.

polls sinking is one thing, these bastards are still doing and getting EVERYTHING THEY WANT - record deficit, unlimited war, unprecedented presidential dictototrship powers, Iraq oil, and so on.

The polls are down, but they're still getting everything they want, including a facist-corporate-police-state!

-85% Jimmy
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:33 AM
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36. add to *'s problems: unrest and 26 killed in Afghanistan today. When WILL
the Chimp be impeached????
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:37 AM
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39. Breaking: polls all BS - even Zogby. W never had more than 29-30% tops
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 10:38 AM by robbedvoter
support. This is only maintaining the illusions that numbers go up and down when in effect we know W is loathed by a vast majority of americans, just as he was at election time as well.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:07 PM
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40. And it makes no difference at all.
The Bushies dodge every bullet that comes their way and remain tremendously successful at achieving their evil ends.

There is no sign that anyone will substantially be able to ever oppose them.

The Dems have been given a godsend on a golden platter and what do they do?

They sit in their room and look out the window at the golden platter on their doorstep.


There are no heros left.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:22 PM
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41. Ewww, losing the investor class support? They must be reviewing
the cost/benefit analysis of the war. It's not pretty.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/15/business/yourmoney/15view.html

When Talk of Guns and Butter Includes Lives Lost

AS the toll of American dead and wounded mounts in Iraq, some economists are arguing that the war's costs, broadly measured, far outweigh its benefits.

Studies of previous wars focused on the huge outlays for military operations. That is still a big concern, along with the collateral impact on such things as oil prices, economic growth and interest on the debt run up to pay for the war. Now some economists have added in the dollar value of a life lost in combat, and that has fed antiwar sentiment.

"The economics profession in general is paying more attention to the cost of lives cut short or curtailed by injury and illness," said David Gold, an economist at the New School. "The whole tobacco issue has encouraged this research."

snip>

Cost-benefit analysis, applied to war, all but ceased after Vietnam and did not pick up again until the fall of 2002 as President Bush moved the nation toward war in Iraq. "We are doing this research again," said William D. Nordhaus, a Yale economist, "because the Iraq war is so contentious."

more...
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:44 PM
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42. Unfortunately...
...we have learned that Bush's ratings don't matter.

Bushism is far more than Bush.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:26 AM
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43. Hmmmm......America doesn't like Bush!..It's official!!!
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 08:58 AM
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44. This poll is NOT
good news. Look at these unbelievable numbers.....



Which political party is better equipped to handle . . .


Foreign policy 40 R 40 D
Integrity 35 R 34 D
JObs and Economy 40 R 41 D
Terrorism 47 R 26 D
Taxes 43 R 37 D

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1056
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:39 AM
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45. But this paragraph should
set alarm bells ringing in all Dem circles.


<snip>

"But as the nation’s capital sinks further into scandal talk revolving around Congress and allegations of improper gifts doled out by lobbyist Jack Abramoff, the poll shows the public has yet to hold one party more responsible than the other. Despite Democratic efforts to paint the Abramoff influence-pedaling case as a Republican scandal, the GOP holds a slight advantage in the minds of respondents when it comes to integrity – 35% said they believed Republicans have more integrity, while 34% gave the nod to Democrats. 19% said neither party had integrity."

<snip>


With the complicity of the CORP MEDIA, they have so far managed to tar everybody with the same brush. It's the public perception of Dems that's crucial to our chances of success in Nov.'06! Bush can't run again unless a Constitutional Amendment can be pushed through before '08. :-( SG

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