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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:19 PM
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Cheney concedes failure to boost backing for war

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060114/14che...

Cheney concedes failure to boost backing for war


Vice President Cheney admits the administration fell behind the curve in the debate over Iraq last year, allowing its adversaries to attack current policy without an adequate response and focusing on other issues.

Neither Cheney nor President Bush plans to make that mistake again. In an interview with U.S. News, Cheney said, "You do have to keep a sustained campaign going. There's no question about it. Last fall, obviously, there were a lot of other items on the agenda. We went through the whole exercise with Katrina and the hurricanes and disaster relief and so forth that was, I suppose, a bit of a distraction. But it is important to try to maintain public support for what we're doing out there."

On the road stumping for the administration's Iraq policy, the veep says he gets a good reaction almost wherever he goes. "I find when I get out around the country and talk with people about it, that most of the ones I interact with are very understanding and very supportive. That doesn't mean, obviously, that everybody agrees with the policy. Clearly, there are a number of folks who don't. But I think if they have time to think about it, presented with the question, 'Do you think we ought to immediately withdraw from Iraq?' I think the vast majority of Americans would say no."

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Still, Cheney believes 2005 will be seen as "a watershed."

"The Iraqis met every single political milestoneelections in January, wrote a constitution in August, ratified it in October, new national elections in December. I think when we look back 10 years from now that '05 will have been a seminal year, if you will, to the development of democracy in Iraq."

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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:20 PM
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1. Just cause you say shit over and over
don't make it true... :wtf:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:12 AM
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56. It's hard to convince the USA people to "KILL CHILDREN & OLD LADIES
The "Dickless" and "heartless" one appeals only to the SS thoughts of his stormtroopers

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:20 PM
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2. Katrina was...a bit of a distraction, DICK HEAD?
Is a watershed anything like the last throes? :grr:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:22 PM
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4. Such a compassionate guy...
:sarcasm:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:54 PM
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21. Why are these people running this country!!!!
He only ran for office to go secure his oil deals and no bid contracts. Everything else is expendable. That means us!!!!
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:13 PM
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22. Notice this admin. was able to push Katrina aside and
concentrate entirely on their quest for world domination, or is it middle east domination? I read somewhere in something called PNAC at least that was the plan. sarcasm!!
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:21 PM
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36. Dickhead says Katirna was an "exercise," what a fucking asshat
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 11:21 PM by wordpix2
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:21 PM
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3. And the insurgiency is in its last throes ...
"You do have to keep a sustained campaign going ..."

If the war was going WELL, a 'campaign' to convince the masses and garner support for it wouldn't be necessary.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:27 PM
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11. Imagine having to "sell" a war after 3 years.
Will these people ever admit they're wrong?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:24 PM
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5. Oh Boo Hoo..Katrina came along
and bush got side tracked and couldn't campaign on the war on Iraq..didn't stop him from those two photo-ops in Arizona and California when Americans were drowning in New Orleans, though, did it?

cheney needs to back and Smell up his bunker.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:59 PM
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28. Only a monster would call Katrina a "distraction"!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:10 PM
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31. Every once in a while
cheney opens his big mouth and puts his gangrene foot in it.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:22 PM
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32. Hope he chokes on his own pus.
:puke:
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:27 PM
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38. Katrina distracted Dickhead from his beloved war making $$$ with Halliburt
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:26 PM
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6. A lie is still a lie, no matter how many times you tell it.
I think Cheney is in his last throes.................
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:26 PM
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7. Oh, I'm sure the people he meets are
understanding and very supportive... BECAUSE THEY ARE HAND-PICKED Republican supporters from the start. He doesn't meet with regular folks...he couldn't take that because he and Bush are weak.

When people say they are strong, they have it backwards. The whole administration is weak and callow.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:30 PM
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39. hand-picked rethugs are very supportive-"disrupters" can't attend
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:26 PM
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8. Maybe if he talked to people other than screened supporters...
He would find a lot more oppostition to his insanity.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:27 PM
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9. Cheney lives in a bubble, too.
HeadDick says: "I find when I get out around the country and talk with people about it, that most of the ones I interact with are very understanding and very supportive..."

Know why?

Cause people who have a different opinion can't get within a quarter mile of him.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:51 PM
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19. He Went to a Ballgame Once
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 08:52 PM by AndyTiedye
"And in the luxury boxes, our Vice President Dick Cheney"

"BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
(for about five minutes continuously)

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:22 AM
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49. Cheney should come to one of the First Amendment zones
and talk to the people there that are demonstrating against him and Bush.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:27 PM
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10. That's right DIckie-bird--
the people you talk to are at those undisclosed location meetings where you quietly slip the big checks into your pockets and give them a few of those snarly grimaces that are your signature piece. Come on over to my house. I'll give you dinner and some alternative opinions about nearly everything.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:27 PM
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12. Definition of insanity
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 08:28 PM by Mz Pip
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

These people are nuts. Cheney blaming Katrina for lack of support for Iraq is insane. Irag was around way before Katrina. It wasn't working then. It isn't working now. It's not the wind's fault. :crazy:

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:29 PM
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13. "sustained campaign"- our tax dollars at work
:grr:

The amount of time and money that B/C spend on flying around the country
trying to rustle up support for their failed, ill-advised, illegal, and disastrous
policies. .. speaks for itself.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:29 PM
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14. not enough propaganda
yes, Cheney has learned so much from the past year. :eyes:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 04:54 AM
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52. not to worry
NEW and IMPROVED lies and propaganda coming to the a campaign circuit near you!!!!
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:37 PM
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15. just like they greeted us a liberators. Last throes. Riiiiggghhhhht.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:44 PM
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16. Hey Cheney, '05 will see the forced elections in Iraq to be the
beginning of the Iraqi Civil War.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:45 PM
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17. Ah, Vice believes 2005 will be seen as "a watershed."
Yes, and those in the devastated Gulf Coast area will probably believe 2005 was "a watershed" as well, dickhead.

What an unfortunate (uncaring is more like it) choice of words.....

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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:47 PM
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18. gets a good reaction almost wherever he goes
To bad he doesn't goes out in the real world!!

Then he would see a real world reaction!!
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:21 PM
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24. He couldn't survive it
The old ticker ya know.
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Maggie_May Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:53 PM
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20.  This what I say to you Dick.
No more lives taken no more tax dollars spent.
Fund your oil war with your own life and your own money!!!
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:33 PM
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41. AMEN---better yet, STOP the war with his own money. SHAKEDOWN TIME
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Sacajawea Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:14 PM
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23. "...the whole exercise with Katrina...was...a bit of a distraction."
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 09:16 PM by Sacajawea
Exercise? EXERCISE??!!??? Like a practice drill???

The word that comes to my mind is hubris. Actually, megahubris.

That creature can't possibly be a member of the same species as the rest of us here. He is surely sub-human. Probably a slime mold.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:44 PM
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25. Don't you wonder
If anybody "out there" really heard this?

Would someone from this admin. please explain the word EXERCISE?
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:02 PM
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29. exercise-A task, problem, or other effort performed to develop or maintain
or increase skill:

would that be their skill in killing off poor white and black folks???


exercise P Pronunciation Key (ksr-sz) n
An act of employing or putting into play; use: the free exercise of intellect; the exercise of an option.
The discharge of a duty, function, or office.
Activity that requires physical or mental exertion, especially when performed to develop or maintain fitness: took an hour of vigorous daily exercise at a gym.
A task, problem, or other effort performed to develop or maintain fitness or increase skill: a piano exercise; a memory exercise.
An activity having a specified aspect: an undertaking that was an exercise in futility.
exercises A program that includes speeches, presentations, and other ceremonial activities performed before an audience: graduation exercises.

v. exercised, exercising, exercises
v. tr.
To put into play or operation; employ: Proceed, but exercise caution.
To bring to bear; exert: The desire to be re-elected exercises a strong brake on independent courage (John F. Kennedy).
To subject to practice or exertion in order to train, strengthen, or develop: exercise the back muscles; exercise the memory.
To put through exercises: exercise a platoon. See Synonyms at practice.
To carry out the functions of: exercise the role of disciplinarian.
To execute the terms of (a stock option, for example).
To absorb the attentions of, especially by worry or anxiety.
To stir to anger or alarm; upset: an injustice that exercised the whole community.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:53 PM
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33. Maybe I should have said that the admin. should give us Their
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 10:54 PM by lyonn
definition of exercise, cause it's not what you set-out and my idea of the word since they have done nothing that I know of to this point.

By the way, any news on the repair of the levies? That would be a good place to start their exercising.

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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:53 PM
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27. that phrase struck me in the gut -"exercise w/Katrina"-inhuman fuckface nt
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:34 PM
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42. no wonder Lynne writes about lesbian fantasies
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:03 AM
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47. There are no words to describe these people, slime mold is too good
I agree, they are not human.

There's no question about it. Last fall, obviously, there were a lot of other items on the agenda. We went through the whole exercise with Katrina and the hurricanes and disaster relief and so forth that was, I suppose, a bit of a distraction

Monster! The worst natural disaster in our lifetime, the images are still like nightmares that won't go away, thousands of his own citizens that he claims this war is all about protecting, dead and missing and homeless, and whole city destroyed, Mississippi also, and this creep calls that a 'distraction'?? How can a journalist sit there without reacting with outrage to them?

They are all psycopaths. They have no human emotions. How did this happen, that the country got into the hands of so many mentally ill people?
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Sacajawea Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:24 AM
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50. Yes, Catrina. Psychopaths IS the word for the whole stinking bunch.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:51 PM
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26. I guess saving a U.S. city from destruction is just a side job
I mean, the Bush government can't afford to let little things like that distract them from their important business - destroying cities in other countries.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:36 PM
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43. * 's important business: destroying America & world - damn distraction
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:03 PM
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30. Cheney is the Cardinal Ritchleiu of our time...
If you give me six lines written
by the most honest man, I will find
something in them to hang him.
Cardinal Richelieu
:crazy:

I rest my case...
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:38 PM
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44. since Louis took throne at age 4, Chimp's about right brain age to have
Cheneylieu handle everything
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:57 PM
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34. 1000's die and it is a distraction to the true tyrant.
Unfuckingbelievable.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:13 PM
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35. Ah, when you don't get the answer you want, change the question
"presented with the question, 'Do you think we ought to immediately withdraw from Iraq?' I think the vast majority of Americans would say no.""

Forget that Murtha supported a gradual withdrawal over the next year, forget that Americans will continue to die in Iraq, and forget that "the government" in Iraq is a cartel of conservative Shiite parties. Just ask a question that will ignite the collective guilt of the public ("We shouldn't have gone to war, but we can't just leave") and hope their frustration does not increase.

Smooth.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:26 PM
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37. "most of the ones I interact with are very understanding and supportive"
Yeah, right. When you won't let a protestor within a mile of you, everybody seems to like you a lot, Dickhead. :grr:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:32 PM
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40. "Cheney Concedes Failure" hey, you gotta love that. it's just glorious.
abject, absolute failure. incontrovertible undeniable failure. complete and utter failure. cheney. failure. i love it.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:40 PM
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45. good point, let's look at bright side. M$M is running with the stories
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:42 PM
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46. "Iraq is in fact reconstituting their nuclear weapons program"
"I believe we will in fact be greeted as liberators"

"Rose petals"

Uh huh.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:22 AM
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48. Perhaps if he actually tried to win it!!!!
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:32 AM
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51. Solution for diastrous and illegal policies- more propaganda
This is corporate managements solution to every challenge right up to the declaration of bankruptcy: talking points to convince the world it isn't happening.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:38 AM
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53. Hey, Dickster, a successful "product" sells itself after it's launched.
If you have to keep pushing the PR to sell it, that's big clue that something is seriously wrong with the product itself.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:59 AM
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54. The only people he talks to are hard-core Rethugs
nobody else can get in the door. Love that bubble.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:08 AM
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55. Good, now resign and go to jail !!
Failing to successfully do one's job is grounds for resignation at the very least, firing in most cases.

And failing at one's job in a way that leads to DEATH of innocents - for God's sake - MUST be grounds for some kind of criminal charges.


Where's Perry Mason when we need him ? :shrug:
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