Cheney Reiterates Iraq Terror Connection

[ECH1969]

Saddam Hussein's sponsorship of terrorists and terrorism is a matter of open public record, Vice President Dick Cheney said yesterday.

"The fact is we know that Saddam Hussein and Iraq were heavily involved with terror,". "They were carried as a terror-sponsoring state by our State Department for many, many years." He cited two terror organizations in particular -- Abu Nidal and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad - that operated out of Saddam's Iraq. He also noted that Saddam was making payments to families of suicide bombers. "All of this is very well established," Cheney said.

Snow noted that critics of the Iraq war frequently assert exactly the opposite - namely, that there "there's no linkage between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein."

Cheney acknowledged this criticism, but said it is factually incorrect and misleading. Prior to the Iraq War, he observed, then-CIA Director George Tenet testified during open session before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda dated back at least 10 years.

http://www.dod.mil/news/Jan2006/20060112_3914.html

[Skip Intro]

1. The fact that he's still trying to justify an attack/invasion 3yrs later

says a lot.

"He pled innocent right up until they threw the switch."

[Cocoa]

2. "just because I lied about Iraq and Sept 11"

don't jump to the conclusion that I'm lying now.

From the article above:

"What was never established," the vice president said, "was that there was a link between Iraq and the attacks of 9/11. ... So what some people have done is gotten very sloppy and ... then jumped to the conclusion that there was no relationship at all with respect to al Qaeda."




From a year ago:


Pretty well confirmed that Cheney is a big-ass liar
by John in DC - 6/21/2004 02:03:54 PM

You don't often catch someone like Cheney in this clear-cut a lie. This happened only 3 days ago. I want outcry, and I want it know. Al Gore made some factual mis-statements in 2000 that were a lot less significant than this, and he was branded a liar by the media and a good portion of the public. Cheney is now caught lying about his own justification for September 11. Outright lying. It's about time someone on the left grabbed this stuff and launched a real campaign over it (do I sound frustrated?):

June 17, 2004. Vice President Cheney talking to CNBC's Gloria Borger:
Borger: 'Well, let's go to Mohamed Atta for a minute, because you mentioned him as well. You have said in the past that it was, quote, 'pretty well confirmed.' '

Cheney: 'No, I never said that.'

Borger: 'Okay.'

Cheney: 'Never said that.'

Borger: 'I think that is . . . '

Cheney: 'Absolutely not. What I said was the Czech intelligence service reported after 9/11 that Atta had been in Prague on April 9th of 2001, where he allegedly met with an Iraqi intelligence official. We have never been able to confirm that nor have we been able to knock it down.'




from 3 years before that:

On Dec. 9, 2001. Cheney talking to NBC's Tim Russert:

Cheney: 'Well, what we now have that's developed since you and I last talked, Tim, of course, was that report that -- it's been pretty well confirmed that he did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack. Now, what the purpose of that was, what transpired between them, we simply don't know at this point, but that's clearly an avenue that we want to pursue.'

[IChing]

4. Why did he have FIVE seperate WAR GAMES going on the day of 9-11 ????

That shut down our Air Force that left only 8 planes available on the east coast?

Interestingly, Vice President Cheney was apparently in charge of ALL of the war games and coordinated the government's "response" to the attacks. See this CNN article; and this previously-cited essay.

On the very morning of 9/11/01, five war games and terror drills were being conducted by several U.S. defense agencies, including one "live fly" exercise using REAL planes. Then-Acting Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Air Force General Richard B. Myers, admitted to 4 of the war games in congressional testimony -- see transcript here or video here (6 minutes and 12 seconds into the video).

Norad had run drills for several years of planes being used as weapons against the World Trade Center and other U.S. high-profile buildings, and "numerous types of civilian and military aircraft were used as mock hijacked aircraft". In other words, drills using REAL AIRCRAFT simulating terrorist attacks crashing jets into buildings, including the twin towers, were run. See also official military website showing 2000 military drill, using miniatures, involving a plane crashing into the Pentagon.

Indeed, a former Los Angeles police department investigator, whose newsletter is read by 45 members of congress, both the house and senate intelligence committees, and professors at more than 40 universities around the world, claims that he obtained an on-the-record confirmation from NORAD that ON 9/11, NORAD and the Joint Chiefs of Staff were conducting a joint, live-fly, hijack exercise which involved government-operated aircraft POSING AS HIJACKED AIRLINERS.

On September 11th, the government also happened to be running a simulation of a plane crashing into a building.

In addition, a December 9, 2001 Toronto Star article reprinted here, stated that "Operation Northern Vigilance is called off. Any simulated information, what's known as an 'inject,' is purged from the screens". This indicates that there were false radar blips inserted onto air traffic controllers' screens as part of the war game exercises.

Moreover, there are indications that some of the major war games previously scheduled for October 2001 were MOVED UP to September 11th by persons unknown (first paragraph).



http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=GEO20051116&articleId=1268

edited to fix link, but check it out yourself, why would Cheney and Bush not testify under oath?
When everyone else did?

CHENEY is linked more to 911 than Saddam, you or me

[driver8]

7. It is simply coincidence. Why do you hate 'Merka??

If you believe that, I've got some land in Louisiana I would like to show you.

[IChing]

9. Establishment Media Plagued by 'Coincidence Theorists'

In his eyewitness account of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," author William Shirer, who lived in Nazi Germany throughout most of the 1930s, described a phenomenon that will, in 2004, seem disturbingly familiar to Americans who dissent from the policies of the Bush regime.

"I myself was to experience how easily one is taken in by a lying and censored press and radio in a totalitarian state," Shirer wrote. "Though unlike most Germans I had daily access to foreign newspapers . . . and though I listened regularly to the BBC and other foreign broadcasts, my job necessitated the spending of many hours a day in combing the German press, checking the German radio, conferring with Nazi officials and going to party meetings. It was surprising and sometimes consternating to find that notwithstanding the opportunities I had to learn the facts and despite one's inherent distrust of what one learned from Nazi sources, a steady diet over the years of falsifications and distortions made a certain impression on one's mind and often misled it."

Shirer then recounted how, in conversations with his German friends and strangers he would meet in cafes and beer halls, "I would meet with the most outlandish assertions from seemingly educated and intelligent persons. It was obvious they were parroting some piece of nonsense they had heard on the radio or read in the newspapers.

"Sometimes one was tempted to say as much, but on such occasions one was met with such a stare of incredulity, such a shock of silence, as if one had blasphemed the Almighty, that one realized how useless it was even to try to make contact with a mind which had become warped and for whom the facts of life had become what Hitler and Goebbels, with their cynical disregard for truth, said they were."

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/september2004/270904coincidencetheorists.htm

[IChing]

12. What? ..........No comment?

How can you leave this historical record with no comment?

Or for that matter on Cheney's complicity and planning for 911

Do you have an energy policy at home?
Well, Cheney did have one for his pocketbook and his friends, so enjoy your heating bills, gasoline bills and your so-called non inflation.

Why did Bush say lately that "it wrong that you think that went to war in Iraq for oil"?


Why did he mention Israel?

[Punkingal]

8. I think Cheney is responsible for 911....

And Bush was kept in the dark. (Which doesn't excuse him, the witless puppet.)

[leQ]

19. i'm with ya on that one. (eom)

[TheGunslinger]

3. DICK is a one-trick pony

[daleo]

5. Cheney is suffering from shortness of breath and shortness of truth. n/t

[driver8]

6. He's been suffering from shortness of truth for a long, long time.

This guy is pathetic. I don't think he ever tells the truth about anything...not that lying is that unusual in this administration.

Cheney thinks that most people, like his brain dead supporters, will believe any shit that spouts from his mouth.

I cannot wait until these criminal rethugs are gone, gone, gone!!

[cliss]

10. Same here.

This old man is an unbelievable clown. Whenever his lips are moving, he's lying.

Cheney has been in the game too long. He's been corrupt for too many years, collecting graft money & back-scratching for his friends.

We finally see proof of this today: the man is absolutely toast.

[IChing]

11. "the man is absolutely toast"......But incharged none the less

His foot medication, will never change his heart or soul

"Fuck you Mr. Cheney"

I hope the good Dr. is still watching DU

[wookie294]

13. Cheney is smart to repeat the bogus Saddam/Qaeda link

I'd say a large minority of Americans will believe his bogus claims -- probably 38%.

Cheney is trying to stop Bush's poll numbers from sinking further by repeating his bogus claims. It will work perfectly for Bush, imho.

[IChing]

14. Please recommend this thread for it can bring out evidence and

Discussion that is needed.

[IChing]

15. Kick because I see the terror connections and it is him.

We shall" Reiterate the Terror Connection"possibilities but with truth.

It is him

OK
TORTURE ME
TO FIND THE TRUTH
BEFORE THIS BOMB
THAT HAS DESTROYED
THIS CONSTITUTION

I CONFESS

WE MIGHT KNOW THE TRUTH AND IT IS TORTUE
TO KNOW IT.

[ngGale]

16. Is Cheney getting any oxygen to his brain? ... n/t

:evilgrin:

[Mazie Gordon]

17. And this is the reason why:

From the linked article:

"In fact, captured Iraqi documents, which only now are being reviewed, offer additional evidence of this relationship, Cheney said. But regardless of the exact reasons that the United States liberated Iraq, "significant progress" has been made there, he told Hannity."


Cheney, using his time honored method of press manipulation, is talking about the documents referred to in this article:

Saddam's Terror Training Camps

What the documents captured from the former Iraqi regime reveal--and why they should all be made public.
by Stephen F. Hayes
01/16/2006, Volume 011, Issue 17

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/550kmbzd.asp

The article, in Bill Kristol's conservative Weekly Standard, maintains that the administration is sitting on 50,000 unclassified documents that prove that Saddam was funding islamic jihadists, but not specifically al Qaeda. The reason these documents haven't been released? Read the article - it's a hoot. Every excuse from "Negroponte's too busy" to "it's hard work to translate that many documents" to "it's the Democrat's fault".

Once again, the administration creates the lie, a willing press outlet publishes the lie, then Cheney points to the press outlet to back up his lie. And the loyal freeperatzi take to the 'net to tout the lie for bushco.

How do I know? A freeper on a local blog in NJ linked to the weekly standard article yesterday as proof that there was a connection between Saddam and 9/11. I was amazed when I saw that Cheney referred to the same thing, the same day.

It's positively scary how fast they get their message of the day down to the rank and file.

I think it's time to re-read Shirer.

[sakabatou]

18. How many times has this been debunked?

If only Cheney were like Pinnochio...

[Tarc]

20. Too many times to count

When he heads back to the hospital for the next heart attack, they should do some tests for dementia. Cheney reminds me of an old, doddering grandfather who wanders around all day in a bathrobe muttering the same stuff under his breath.

[Brooklyn Michael]

21. Cheney on FOX's Tony Snow Show

From a Wednesday interview of Dick Cheney on FOX’s Tony Snow Show (radio): http://www.foxnews.com/tonysnow/ - click on “Cheney on the Saddam-al Qaeda Link”

Cheney: "And Steve Hayes is of the view -- and I think he's correct -- that a lot of those documents that were captured over there that have not yet been evaluated offer additional evidence that, in fact, there was a relationship that stretched over many years between Saddam Hussein and the al Qaeda organization."

Make any sense to you?

Kind of like saying “We have this new defector. We haven't heard yet what he has to say. But what he says sounds pretty convincing.”

(Credit to Talking Points Memo for the analogy)