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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:28 PM
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UK 'cover-up' on Israel's nukes
Britain is being accused of trying to cover up its role in helping Israel develop its nuclear weapons programme.

In August, Newsnight revealed that more than 40 years ago, Britain sold heavy water, a key substance, to Israel.

MPs now allege that minister Kim Howells tried to mislead the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) over Britain's role.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4515586.stm
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:39 PM
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1. what's new ? France provided them with the rest...
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

and it took the CIA 10 years to become aware of it
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:44 PM
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2. think of israel as a european colony
the holocaust so appalled the world that after the end of the war, it was pretty difficult to say no to the men who created israel...the arabs feel wronged twice: they had nothing to do with the holocaust, and also suffered from the west's mainly covert assistance to the new state of israel, at the expense of the 'palestinians' (for those who don't know, the people we today know as 'palestinians' took the name to offset the jewish use of the word 'israel' and israeli after the 1920's...unfortunately, most westerners only know one 'palestinian' from the bible- 'goliath'!)
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:49 PM
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3. Is the U.S. aware of the dual use items they sold to the great
satan Saddam Hussein??? I am sure they have conveniently forgotten this minor detail.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 08:00 PM
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4. ;Mordechai Vanunu - The Israel Nuclear Scientist
{Presented by Daniel Ellsberg at the UN on May 11, 2005, among the statements of Non-Governmental Organizations to the States Party to the Seventh Review Conference of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons}

Nineteen years ago, Mordechai Vanunu, a technician at the secret nuclear weapons production facility at Dimona in Israel, did something that he was right to do, something that others with his knowledge of Israel’s nuclear activities and their implications for Israeli security and democracy and for world order should have done earlier, or later. He revealed to his fellow citizens and to the world truths about these activities that had long been wrongly concealed and denied by his government.

What he revealed was not merely that Israel was a nuclear weapons state; that had been known for more than a decade on the basis of widely-publicized leaks in the U.S. about official American intelligence estimates to this effect. Vanunu’s photographs and interviews with the London Sunday Times revealed that Americans and all others had substantially underestimated the pace and scale of the Israel’s secret and un-inspected production of nuclear materials and warheads, especially since the early ‘70’s. New estimates on the basis of his revelations put the Israeli arsenal in 1986 at some 200 warheads (rather than 20), making it the third or possibly fourth largest nuclear power, ahead of Britain and probably ahead of France. After nineteen more years of production, that ranking remains valid, with Israeli probably possessing closer to 400 weapons.

Did not Israelis, citizens of a democracy, and other nations of the world deserve to know this? Was not his example of truth-telling, at great personal risk, to be thanked and emulated? For a generation, the nuclear scientist Joseph Rotblat, a founder of the Pugwash Movement for which he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, has argued that the confidence required in the inspection and enforcement agreements on nuclear disarmament could and must rest in part on ‘societal verification’: the courage and conscience of scientists, technicians and officials who could reveal to inspectors activities violating those agreements. Unhappily, the last 35 years since the NPT went into effect have not seen many examples of such initiative, other than that of Mordechai Vanunu. Yet the potential value of such revelations, by someone willing, like Vanunu, to risk the heaviest personal costs, is ever more clear.

Imagine, for example, if an Indian citizen aware of India’s secret preparations for nuclear testing and of the disastrous impact this would foreseeably have on regional and world security had made this knowledge unequivocally public in time for world opinion to come to bear to avert that tragic error and the Pakistani testing it was sure to provoke. The result for that person could well have been a long prison sentence, as it was for Vanunu; yet surely such an act would deserve a Nobel Peace Prize, for which Rotblat, using his prerogative as a Nobel Laureate, has nominated Mordechai Vanunu repeatedly.

Now, a year after serving his full sentence of eighteen years, nearly twelve of them spent in solitary confinement in a two-by-three meter cell, Vanunu is under indictment and faces a return to prison for violating restrictions on his freedom of speech that clearly violate his fundamental human rights. He has and will continue to speak out in favor of a nuclear-free-zone in the Middle East and the global abolition of nuclear weapons, telling whatever he knows that supports these objectives. It is absurd to maintain, as the head of Israel’s security system does, that revelation of any further details he learned from his access in Dimona nineteen years ago could undermine Israeli national security, when no one has been able to identify any damage whatever to Israeli security in the years since his revelations in 1986. Rather, the prohibitions against his speaking to foreigners and to foreign journalists on any matters, or to his fellow citizens on nuclear matters, are clearly intended to extend his punishment in prison for unauthorized truth-telling for an indefinite period.

The deterrent message to other potential Vanunus, either in Israel or elsewhere, could not be more clear. In a world where more Vanunus are desperately needed, above all, in my own country, the United States, and other nuclear weapons states violating their Article VI obligations, is this a message that the rest of the world should tolerate to be sent unchallenged? In the interest of vital transparency and future societal verification, there should be international protest of Vanunu's new indictment and of the restrictions on his speech and travel.

Read the rest Here!
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:23 PM
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5. Israel RRRRRRAWWWKSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
They need their nukes for survival.

It's all good. :beer:
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:46 PM
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6. Why? They've got the US to protect 'em.
We provided round the clock air CAP/CAS for them in the '67 war with the sixth fleet, and we've vetoed tons of UN Security Council motions seeking to sanction them for crimes against the Palestinians. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html. I honestly don't think the Israelis having nukes has done anything for their security except move the "doomsday clock" closer to midnight for all of us.

Gyre
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