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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:04 AM
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Aide: Rice Was Not Woodward's Source

http://www.mexicoledger.com/articles/2005/11/19/apindex/headlines/d8dvj35g0.txt

Aide: Rice Was Not Woodward's Source


WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was not the senior Bush administration official who told Washington Post editor Bob Woodward that White House critic Joseph Wilson's wife worked for the CIA, a Rice aide said Saturday.

"Secretary Rice wasn't Woodward's source," Rice senior adviser Jim Wilkinson said.

Rice was President Bush's White House national security adviser in June 2003, when Woodward says a highly placed official told him of Valerie Plame's CIA connection. Woodward has said the source was someone other than I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff and the only person indicted in a federal probe of the leak case.

...

Hadley won't say if he was Woodward's source. But Hadley volunteered on Friday that some administration officials say he's not the leaker.


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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:06 AM
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1. Well, who the hell is it?--The second shift janitor?
No one else in the administration will take responsibility.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 01:04 PM
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Truly. I'm amused by the litany recited by countless "news" people on the
air - "So-and-so says he/she didn't. So-and-so's spokesperson says he/she didn't. So-and-so issued a statement denying he/she did..."

YAWN.

Once again, they're just blindly taking it at face value. NOT ONE has added any reminder that most of the charges against fibby-libby concern LYING and/or PERJURY - which is also LYING, but more specifically under oath. And NO ONE bothers to remind people that rove and libby originally denied they were part of it, something for which Snot McClellan has been rightfully and repeatedly taken to task. What makes any of them so sure these people are not lying again now?

OH! I see! They SAID they didn't do it! Well, okay, then! That's the end of that! Cool! Whatever you say, folks! NEXT?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 02:03 PM
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20. LOL !!!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:07 AM
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2. like any of us would assume rice would uncross her legs long enough to
carry on a conversation with someone outside the administration.

remember, this woman has an oil tanker named after her.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:50 PM
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30. HAD (past tense) an oil tanker...it was renamed
..which is bad luck for a vessel. It is now called ALTAIR VOYAGER.

She asked that they rename it when she joined the admin.

Cite: http://www.soaringspiritwithtears.com/boycott/boycott_importedoil.html
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:09 AM
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3. It is a WHIG member - not just an employee of a WHIG member. n/t
Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 11:11 AM by higher class
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:53 AM
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13. List of WHIG members...
Karl Rove
Karen Hughes
Mary Matalin
James R. Wilkinson
Nicholas E. Calio
Condoleezza Rice
Stephen Hadley
I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby


Have they ruled out Wilkinson yet?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:56 AM
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14. Can we assume it also includes Cheney and George?
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 12:48 PM
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16. Oops! How could I forget the 2 most important members! nt
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:11 AM
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4. Let's ask Scotty McClellan. He always tells the truth about these things.
We anyones believe anything these morans say is beyond me!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:13 AM
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5. yup==must have been the butler!


......A former Pentagon official, Douglas Feith, said he never spoke to Woodward about Wilson, his wife or anything related. Feith, once the undersecretary of defense for policy, has helped shape strategies to stem the spread of weapons technology, devise the U.S. response to terrorism and frame the Bush administration's global peace initiative.

In another development, a person familiar with the federal investigation said that Vice President Dick Cheney is not the unidentified source who told Woodward about Plame's CIA status.

The vice president did not talk with Woodward on the day in question, did not provide the information that's been reported in Woodward's notes and has not had any conversations over the past several weeks about any release for allowing Woodward to testify, said the person, speaking on condition of anonymity because the federal probe is still under way.

A service of the Associated Press(AP)
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:14 AM
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6. Oh well, there you have it -- Fitzgerald can pack it in now
You know that if a White House aide says it, it must be true.

Although, if the White House is commenting publicly on who didn't leak names, why won't they comment publicly on who did? After all, this isn't a game of "Button, button," we're talking about betraying a spy in wartime. Cutesy guessing games are highly inappropriate here.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:15 AM
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7. Woodward made up the whole thing
How could a story this big get leaked to a bunch of small timers like Miller Cooper Novak etc. without the great bob woodward getting leaked to? His ego couldn't stand it. So bob invents a source which he cannot identify and claims he heard about it before anybody else.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 12:01 PM
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15. LOL. Nice try. Woodward finally screwed up....
...and now he's paying the price.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 09:37 PM
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24. Jeebus?
I can see Him leaking to Woodward.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:17 AM
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8. It's a conspiracy...
meaning they're all guilty regardless of who "leaked." This is about espionage and treason, not just about identity protection. The whole administration is crooked as a barrell of fishhooks.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:29 AM
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9. Sheesh, if they're all so damned sure about who it wasn't they surely
must have some damned idea who was! I'm am so sick of these games and the absolute waste of money on an investigation that shouldn't even be necessary!

Someone leaked, everyone is lying and we're all footing the bill for them to play a childish game of 20 questions with Fitz.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:32 AM
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10. And which aide said this, I wonder
Maybe Stephen Hadley. That would work out well.
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Paula Sims Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:33 AM
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11. I say it was Chimpy
Woodward kept eating up the access rights and Chimpy kept eating up the attention to his personal propagandist.

Paula
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oioioi Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:49 AM
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12. Yep. They will play cluedo until the truth is obvious.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 12:58 PM
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17. That's right. Not SECRETARY Rice... but National Security
Advisor Rice?

That's an entirely different story, ain't it?
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 01:04 PM
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18. I don't think Republicans would waste political capital building up anyone
for a 2008 run who might end up getting indicted before then.

I never for a second thought Rice was a source. They wouldn't have paraded her around last week as the last hope for the Republican party if she were a potential fellon.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 01:06 PM
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19. Don't be so sure. They're STILL operating under the assumption
that they'll just simply get away with it again. Why wouldn't they go ahead and push her anyway?

Nothing stops these people. Not even sheer, baldfaced, blatant lying, cheating, and criminality.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 02:07 PM
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21. this sucks. She is my prime target for indictment. I lose. I heard



some talking heads on Faux deduce that the source is NOT currently in the administration. Plus, I've read that the person had NOT previously testified.

So who might that be ?

Ari? No, he testified

Powell? He testified, right?

Tenet? He testified, right?

Who?????
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 03:17 PM
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22. This actually seems like a "denial" denial
As opposed to the usual non-denial denial. One caveat - note he said she never told Bob Woodward about Plame. That doesn't mean she didn't tell someone else.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 09:23 PM
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23. The British seem to know it was Hadley!
see the London times
THE mysterious source who gave America’s foremost journalist, Bob Woodward, a tip-off about the CIA agent at the centre of one of Washington’s biggest political storms was Stephen Hadley, the White House national security adviser, according to lawyers close to the investigation.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1880016,00.html
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 09:38 PM
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25. Not just the Brits, RawStory was the first to scoop this one...
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 09:40 PM
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26. but the LondonTimes is a mainstream newspaper
Raw is terrific, but undergroundish but the Times is one of the main British Newspapers!
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 09:47 PM
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28. No doubt! Our MSM won't be able to ignore this, now that hit the Times...
btw, Raw Story and Michael Smith(of the Times) have a professional connection....
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 09:55 PM
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29. now the Independent (UK) another main newspaper!
The leading suspect, meanwhile, appears to be Stephen Hadley, currently the President's National Security Adviser, who pointedly failed to issue a clear denial when asked if he was Mr Woodward's source. Pressed during a presidential trip to South Korea whether his convoluted initial answer meant yes or no, he replied: "It is what it is."

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article328151.ece
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 09:45 PM
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27. And we should believe ANY of them becuse
:shrug:

For TWO freaking years they consistently denied that ANYONE in the WH was responsible, and pretty much claimed Wilson was lying..Why would anyone believe anything they have to say??
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