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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:04 PM
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UPDATE 1-Venezuela's economy grows 9.8 pct in third quarter
CARACAS, Venezuela, Nov 17 (Reuters) - Venezuela's economy grew 9.8 percent in the third quarter of this year, helped by high oil prices, public spending and growth in the construction and commerce sectors, the central bank said on Thursday.

The oil sector grew 4.2 percent while the country's non-oil economic sectors expanded 10.4 percent. The private sector expanded 11.1 percent in the quarter compared with 5.4 percent growth in the public sector.

Government officials expect the Venezuelan economy to grow by as much as 10 percent this year.

The South American country has registered strong growth this year after a referendum win by leftist President Hugo Chavez in August 2004 ended months of political instability that had battered the economy since a 2002 coup.

Reuters
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:06 PM
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1. Damn commies.
:sarcasm:

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:08 PM
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3. Where's the emigration line? Sign me up!
Yo hablo espanol ... kinda.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:08 PM
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4. Really shows up the Bush economy, doesn't he?
Chavez actually spends money to help the poor...imagine that! No wonder Dubya can't wait to get rid of him. Just think, all that money could go into his cronies pockets, instead.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:28 AM
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19. Damn "dictators"!
That keep getting re-ELECTED with over 60% of the vote!
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:06 PM
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2. How dare those socialistas have an economy that grows better
than God's chosen capitalists???!!!

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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:22 PM
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6. Because God's chosen capitalists have allowed oil prices to rise
benefitting a "socialist" country sitting on large reserves.

Now assuming the money is being invested in the people of Venezuela in terms of education and other opportunities, we will see the long term benefits well after the oil runs out.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:35 PM
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10. From what I have read, Chavez is doing that to a degree that there
has certainly been no mass exodus of Venezuelans.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:22 PM
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5. A little redistribution of wealth - creating even the smallest of middle
classes - makes huge waves.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:26 PM
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7. cool -- what's not to like about that?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:00 PM
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13. the fact that it is done with record oil prices
that we're paying for?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:08 PM
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14. Another Bushite foreign policy "achievement". nt
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 12:54 AM
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22. He's not the reason those prices are that way to begin with...
So the fact that he used the State Owned Petroleum Companies profits to reinvest in the country is actually a good thing. Not to mention the charity he is extending to the poor here in the United States. That is one thing I actually find heartening about Chavez and his supporters, two things strike me about this issue, one is that Chavez has taken great pains to critisize our government and Bush especially, rather than blame the people that most likely elected him. Actually, I get the impression that he doesn't view our government as a legally elected one, though to be honest, I don't know his precise view on THAT matter. The second has to do with his supporters, by and large the poor in his country, and outside his country as well. I remember seeing a film where they were interviewing Chavez supporters on the streets who said this: "...and we are not against the United States, but against thier policies towards us, but we are not against the people because the people are our brothers too. What we are against are the policies of their government, so it is important that you know that we suffer just as our North American brothers suffer, after all we are all Americans."
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 01:17 AM
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23. Last time oil prices went up, Venezuela's economy shrunk.
So it's more than oil prices.

Oil prices obviously help, but even without the oil resources, true keynesian economic policies would still grow economies.

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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:05 PM
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8. This is excellent.
My best wishes to the people of Venezuela! I hope that the state uses the revenue to build critical infrastructure and, along with sister Latin American nations, build a regional trade network that is not reliant on the so-called superpower.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:09 PM
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9. How will his political enemies spin this one?
"Chavez had nothing to do with it!"

"If it weren't for Chavez, we would have grown by 50%!"

"Lies, lies! All dangerous lies!"
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:36 PM
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11. See post 6. n/t
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VegasRomigi Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:44 PM
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12. Chavez likes to help out his own people - Bush should take a lesson....
When you help your own people first - instead of your corporate cronies and foreign dictators then people actually like you!!
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:11 PM
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15. Last time oil prices went up, Venezuela's economy shrunk. So this can't
be attributed only to oil prices. They're obviously investing the petrol dollars well (ie, into health care, education and infrastructure).
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Flanker Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:41 PM
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16. Excellent
Most interesting is the rapid growth in the non-oil sectors of the economy, the economic policy is not too different from that of FDR only more socially concious and with oil revenue.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:42 PM
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17. It's True Keynesian.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:34 PM
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20. Hi Flanker!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:58 PM
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18. But, but, but
BU$H said, you know Chavez is against freedom and only U$ style 'democracy' brings wealth (didn't say to whom).
I am just askance!
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:33 PM
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21. VZ's private sector expanded by 11%!
I wonder how that compares with other Latin American countries.

This is what the US is a afraid of: a credible, viable and successful alternative to neoliberal trade and economic policies that work.

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