Sniper hunts 2 US soldiers west of Baghdad

[leftchick]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-11/12/content_3770818.htm

Sniper hunts 2 US soldiers west of Baghdad

www.chinaview.cn 2005-11-12 18:16:44

FALLUJAH, Iraq, Nov. 12 (Xinhuanet) -- An insurgent sniper hunted two US soldiers in the flashpoint city of Fallujah, west of Baghdad, on Saturday, a witness said.

"A sniper opened fire at a US military patrol in Souq al-Qadiem district, and picked off two soldiers before he fled the scene," Abdul-Rahman told Xinhua.

"Another insurgent hurled a grenade at a US patrol in the city damaging a US Humvee, but it was not known whether there was any casualty," he said.

US troops returned fire and cordoned off the area and searched for the attackers, he added.

Fallujah, some 50 km west of Baghdad in the restive Anbar province, has witnessed frequent attacks against US and Iraqi forces.

[xchrom]

1. that must be a mistake -- they were welcoming us --

they wouldn't still be shooting at us would they?
i mean they've had an election.:eyes:

[arewenotdemo]

4. Silly Iraqis! Don't they know we just want what's best

for them?

[bluedeminredstate]

8. My friend's daughter is near there

and there's no warm welcome from the liberated. They are routinely attacked on base with mortars, grenades, rpgs, etc. What freaks my friend out the most is that her daughter - mother to a 15 month old that she saw last year - is doing missions where she goes with convoys to deliver ammunition to units around the Sunni triangle. WTF is that? Let a sniper kill a 21 y.o. mother and watch the American people get really squeamish about this misadventure!!

The troops need to come home - NOW!!!

:mad:

[Domitan]

2. Juba strikes again?

Juba is the name of the unknown sniper that takes down US soldiers one at a time. This Juba has a rep for firing only one shot as not to allow anyone to identify his(?) location. Well, two were taken out in this case...so was it done in quick succession or was there a significant time gap in between the shootings?

[Aviation Pro]

3. In another war....

...a lone sniper united a nation by taking out its tormentors and invaders one soldier at a time. Brutally captured by the movie Enemy at the Gates.

[...of J.Temperance]

5. It might be possible that Juba is

Two people...two snipers working in tandem. This is incredibly disturbing...they've killed, or claim to have killed 154 GIs all in their sniper attacks :(

Just bring the troops home already.

[okieinpain]

9. I'm one of those that's against a massive pullout, but they do

need to start coming home. iraq has brought all of the worlds terrorist to one spot and it is making them stronger, not weaker. iraq is becoming a super training camp for (future and present) terrorists and assassins.

[newspeak]

12. well, let's see

your country gets invaded by a foreign army, parts of your family are destroyed (including children), your infrastructure decimated, no employment, people being raped and tortured in prisons (some who are innocent), and it's foreign terrorists? I'd say the majority are Iraqi who have turned to terrorism for a reason.

[leftchick]

17. well said newspeak!

:applause:

[okieinpain]

19. yeah, they don't want to be a minority to the people whose

ass's they use to kick on a regular basis when saddam was king.

[pokercat999]

23. I'd say the majority are freedom fighters, pushing the

invaders from their land.

[leftchick]

6. I believe he/they picks them off in Baghdad

There are plenty of Iraqi snipers in Fallujah, Ramadi, Mosul, Kirkuk, etc. Our soldiers are fucked and need to come home. :(

[4dsc]

10. more on this Juba..

Some worry that Juba is on his way to becoming a resistance hero, acclaimed by those Iraqis who distinguish between "good" insurgents, who target only Americans, and "bad" insurgents who harm civilians.

The insurgent grapevine celebrates an incident last June when a four-strong marine scout sniper team was killed in Ramadi, all with shots to the head.

Unlike their opponents, US snipers in Baghdad seldom get to shoot. Typically they hide on rooftops and use thermal imaging and night vision equipment to monitor areas. If there is suspicious activity, they summon aircraft or ground patrols.

"We are professionals. There is a line between a maniac with a gun and a sniper," said Mike, 31, a corporal with a reconnaissance sniper platoon who did not want to his surname to be used.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1542824,00.html

[Rene]

21. "Juba" has a video camera on his rifle....Israeli made equipment

He films those shootings...I've seen the hideous videos taken by the coward. The rifle with the scope and camera mounted is ISRAELI made. There's speculation that the man is NOT Iraqi...but an Israeli.

I also want to know what happened to Chalabi's 700 man army that arrived with him at the start of the invasion. They were all trucked to that square for the statue toppling. Those guys and US troops were the ONLY people in that square at the time. Now they've disappeared. WHAT are they doing....where are they? Who went out and looted all the weapons sites...material currently used against our guys/gals? Where is it all stored now? I think those (chalabi)guys are the 'insurgents'.

[thebigidea]

22. that's a new one: the insurgents are Israelis and Chalabites.

bwhahahah. Uh huh. What do you do for an encore?

[NickB79]

24. Where did you see these videos?

I have never heard of this, and I've followed the story of Juba pretty closely the past year. Any online links to these videos?

[Straight Shooter]

7. It's progress. The insurgency is so fractured they're working solo now!

This message brought to you by the Damage Control Division of the Iraq News Department of the Monkey Palace, 1600 Pensylvania Avenue, courtesy of the chimp and his albatross Rove.

[SomewhereOutThere424]

11. Pullout is a necessity

Now, maybe I'm just talking BS here...but in my knowledge of tactics, if a sniper could pick off TWO soldiers before he gets away, obviously they're not handling their sniper situation very well. Herding soldiers in large groups with snipers around makes them a target, yet make the sniper fire at one target (or what he thinks is a target) and you smoke them out.

I mean what is this some kind of parade our soldiers just march around and they don't expect them to get shot at?? These big whig generals don't care a thing about these soldiers, we cannot win a war where tactics and execution is being handled so poorly.

Reason I say pullout is a necessity is the longer you fight a battle you're losing, and your enemy knows you're losing, the worse it makes you look when you finally have to withdraw. What hope is there in iraq? We have contridicting statements from the whitehouse, 'We went to iraq because it was one of the most dangerous, terrorist hiding spots, and had WMDs' and then 'we can make iraq a better more civil place'. How do you do that if they were already hiding terrorists? Face it...we've LOST the fight for iraq because iraq was barely anything to begin with. All the talk about fallout if we don't pull out is inevitable, even if we do make most insurgents submit to us. They STILL hate us, the damage to our country's image is still done, and we're still going to be seen as cowards fleeing iraq whether we 'win' or 'lose'.

It's just the principle -- should more soldiers have to die for a cause that will NEVER be successful? I'm sure most iraqis want us to get the hell OUT and STOP blowing them up, not try to fix the explosions we already made and making 20 times more a day.

[daleo]

13. I don't see this on Icasualties yet

And the term "hunted" is a bit vague. I guess time will tell.

[ckramer]

16. It's there now

http://icasualties.org/oif/prdDetails.aspx?hndRef=11-2005

[daleo]

18. You're right.

Sorry, I was looking under the wrong date (basing it on the story's dateline).

[pinniped]

14. They are creating new terms every day.

--insurgent sniper--

[pfitz59]

15. Bosnia.. Checnya.. Afghanistan...

Arab snipers have a lot of experience, much of it learned at CIA training camps. (Can you say Mujadeen?) This is just another case of blowback....

[0007]

20. We've learned nothing from Vietnam or watching Russian

in Afghanistan. We're so stupid and hated its not funny.

[stop the bleeding]

25. I have a couple of questions??

1. Is this source http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-11/12/content_3770818.htm a reliable source?

2. Does anyone know if these deaths were verified in some other fashion?

I am adding articles to a topic in the Research Forum called

News Sources that are Relevant to the Iraq War under the sub category of Sources for Military and Civilian Deaths, but I am not sure if this is legit or not.

Any help?:shrug:

[butterfly77]

26. I thought they were suppose to be trowing flowers...

not grenades. This arrogant, stubborn bastard wont admit that he is wrong to save his life. The bastard is out trying to start new wars and fronting off the American people.

[Victimerican]

27. i'd rather see sniper attacks than suicide bombers

The suicide bombers kill innocents, some of which might be in agreement with them, and just crossing the wrong street at the wrong time. At least with these Juba attacks (as I assume they are) he/they are only targeting and killing people in direct opposition to them.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy if not one more person, Iraqi or American were killed from today till the unforeseeable end. But if people are going to be killed, better soldiers than civilians..at least soldiers know their lives are at risk.