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Powell told senator he'd reveal details about case for war in Iraq after both left office, sources say

Larisa Alexandrovna and Jason Leopold

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President Bush’s former Secretary of State, Colin Powell, may have known that the case for military action in Iraq was thin before he presented it to the United Nations, RAW STORY has learned.

In an interview earlier this year, Powell told ABC News’s Barbara Walters that he felt misled by the intelligence community and found the entire experience of presenting questionable information to the United Nations to be “painful.”

"George Tenet did not sit there for five days with me misleading me," he said. "He believed what he was giving to me was accurate."
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But according to individuals familiar with Powell’s conversations in the days leading up to his UN presentation, an exchange between Powell and the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Joseph Biden (D-DE), indicates that the Secretary may have already had issue with the evidence presented for going to war with Iraq.

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http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Powell_expressed_reticence_on_prewar_intelligence_1109.html

[ixion]

1. you could see on Powell's face that he knew he was lying

when he gave the infamous speech at the UN.

I remember it as the day he lost what little was left of his credibility.

[soothsayer]

3. yep! he knew just what he was doing.

[0rganism]

5. There was that whole story about CP calling the prepared speech "bullshit"

I forget where I read it now, but the story was he looked over this packet of stuff for the UN presentation, threw it into the air, and said, "I'm not reading this, this is BULLSHIT!"

Yeah, he knew. Asshole covered up atrocities in Vietnam, too. He's got the cred for big lies at opportune moments.

[blm]

8. He helped cover up the illegal US involvement in Central America, too.

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[Orsino]

23. And *no* jounalist ever thought to ask him about that story?

I imagine that it would be easy to confirm. There would havw been at least three people in the room at the time.

[0rganism]

25. A quick google shows the apparent source to be US News&World Report

As to why no one in the warmongering corporate newsmedia decided to follow up on it... well, your guess is as good as mine, and probably similar in content. Allegedly, the "this" was a draft of the speech prepared by (surprise!) Scooter Libby, and after flinging it across the room, Colin met with the nice folks at the CIA to polish the turd into some kind of presentable document for the final copy.

And, as we've seen, Colin's draft assessment could easily have been applied to the final as well. But he did his job, good little soldier that he is.

[Lexingtonian]

15. yep

I remember thinking "This guy thinks he's doing something heroic and for a greater good by lying."

Fool.

Bad means desecrate good ends. A lesson many people learn only too late.

[Nickster]

2. Yet he managed to give those details to the UN with no problem.

Cry me a river Colin. You heard your conscience speaking to you and yet you did the wrong thing anyways. boo fricking hoo. To the Hague with you as well.

[Tight_rope]

4. This is where the "Go Jump off a Bridge" statement comes in!

Ok...Powell knew it was a lie but yet and still he went and sat in front of the UN and told the whole world that Saddam was had WMD.

And now he wants us to believe that he is one of the good guys because he was only doing what the slave owner told him to do.

To Powell,

Would you "GO Jump off a Bridge" is the slave owner told you to?:spank:

[Angry Girl]

6. I vas just obeying orders, mein Kapitan!

Haven't we heard this excuse somewhere before?
URGENT! Timing is critical to save earthquake victims before winter!

[TomInTib]

9. Yep- Lt. William Calley (My Lai) but he was hung out to dry by

his Commanding Officer Colin Powell.

[tabasco]

11. Powell was not Calley's CO.

Calley's CO was CPT Medina. Both were war criminals but only Calley was convicted @ court martial.

Powell investigated My Lai and attempted to cover it up. He never had good character but did a good job fooling a lot of people that he was a good guy.

[Innoma]

7. I Always Had a Kind of Begrudging Respect for Powell...

...but after that oh-so-obviously wrong and pitifully amateurish UN presentation, forget it. For a supposed foreign policy realist, he rolled over that day, but good.

The question I have to ask now is, where's he been now that he's freed himself of the yoke of the neocons? Setting the record straight? Helping to repair the damage done by an administration that worked so relentlessly to marginalize him? Or has he become just another Administration Enabler for a failed foreign policy?

His silence on this issue speaks volumes.

[leesa]

28. He's busy whoring for the corporations now, don't bother him.

[wordpix]

10. Powell: the only member of BushCo I used to listen to...now we find he

was perpetuating the Fraud

[rodeodance]

12. someone needs to get him under oath!! --2008 to TOO late.

[Ganja Ninja]

17. Exactly! He's part of the conspiracy to go to war.

His obligation is to the American people. If he has something to say then he needs to spill it. If he doesn't he should be sent to jail to cool his heels like Judy Miller.

[WinkyDink]

13. So he let young (and not-so) soldiers DIE,

out of some misguided loyalty to traitors in the Executive Branch?

Powell can kiss my grits.

[wakeme2008]

14. Oh Colon where did you get the tube of blow

Tenet didn't give you that....

[Javaman]

16. So when is, colin, I have an ass for a name, powell going to be out 2 yrs?

[katty]

18. gawd, very revealing-everyday more turns up-great post,thx

[Roy]

19. Well, now that Colin Powell is a civilian....

It seems, in order to get a full accounting Joe Biden needs to be replaced with a real dem. as opposed to "I'm a Dem while campaining, Mr. Biden"

"“Mr. Secretary, tell them what you know,” Biden said, according to those familiar with the conversation.

“…When we are both out of office for two years, I will tell you what is going on here,” they say Powell replied."

[dennis4868]

20. Powell is a damn LIAR.....

Gary Thielman, Powell's WMD guy in the State Department, told Powell over and over that Saddam was no threat and had very little and perhaps zero WMD and no nuclear program. Thielman was even on 60 Minutes....

[FighttheFuture]

21. Powell, another Tin Soldier rides away...

He's an asshole for sure, but he may have a chance to still redeem himself. We shall see.

[Inland]

22. What's with parcelling out the truth?

The guy gives the world a load of guff, and he hints that he feels bad, but not so bad as to admit the truth?

He passed on bad info. It's incunbent upon him to clear it up, not later after everyone has figured it out on their own, but now, for the record and for understanding.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

24. General Powell's Colon is Still lying

He knew George Tenant was lying.

If he met with with Tenant about this at all, it was probably for more like five minutes than 5 days.

[shaniqua6392]

26. Remember when Barbara WaWa interviewed him

he said he and his wife still have dinner with George and Laura. He is and has always been a spineless traitor. Case closed. He still presented the information that he knew was false. He still has never spoken up and discredited this administration and this war while our troops are dying. He is pure evil just like the rest of them IMO.

[Cool Blue Reason]

27. I think it's worth mentioning

that Jon Corzine now has the power to appoint an anti-war Democrat to the Senate, versus a party insider we're not so sure about. We need all we can get.

[leesa]

29. Clearly the man is an opportunistic traitor...“…When we are both out of of

office for two years, I will tell you what is going on here,” they say Powell replied."

These men and women need to be tried for treason and be punished to the fullest extent of the law....now, not two years after they are out of office.

[Filimon]

30. 2002 NIE

Have any of you bothered reading the primary docs behind these so called 'lies'?

The 2002 NIE?

The 9/11 Commission Report?

The July 7th Intelligence Subcommittee Report?

The Butler report?

I know its a lot of material, and many of you will really have to struggle to get to the end as your conspiracies get debunked, but if you really do care about the truth, you owe it to yourself to read them.

[crickets]

31. Colin Powell Speech

One of the things that killed me about that speech was that some international media sources bothered to research it and had the guts to print what they found about its veracity, but our media did not. The speech was not only a POS, much of it was a plagiarized POS. I couldn't readily find my bookmarks from back then (though I will keep looking) but a quick Google dug up this:

Feb 5, 2003 Colin Powell Speech

UK war dossier a sham, say experts dated Feb 07 2003

The Guardian article is one of several I probably read at the time. I'm sure there are many DU threads from that time period linking to more. It drove me nuts when I tried to discuss this with people who just didn't want to hear that our government was willing to stand in front of the world and lie its way into an unnecessary war.

misled by the intelligence community, my ass.