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JackieO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:37 PM
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Frist urges germ spies
Frist urges germ spies

Bill would cloak war on bioterror

By JEFF NESMITH
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 11/05/05

Washington — A bill moving rapidly through the Senate would create a secretive national research center to respond to bioterrorism threats and natural disease outbreaks.

Some scientists cautioned Friday that the new agency could draw funds away from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta and the National Institutes of Health, and disrupt their work.

...The agency, commonly referred to as BARDA, would be given a first-year budget of $1 billion and some unusually strong powers.

It would have authority to shield drug manufacturers from liability lawsuits in the event a drug used to counteract a bioterrorism event or disease outbreak caused death or injury.

It also would be granted a blanket exemption from the federal Freedom of Information Act.


http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/1105/05natbioterror.html
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:38 PM
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1. What's a germ spy?
I mean, what would a germ spy DO?
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:43 PM
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3. What would a germ spy do?
Maybe powder up some Anthrax and mail it to media outlets and Democratic Senate leaders?
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:49 PM
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8. So a germ spy
would be an intelligence person with access to germs and such?

Not an intelligence officer LOOKING for germs and such?
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:40 PM
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21. A "germ spy" is a nanobot inserted into those who get vaccinated.
it builds up a teeny-tiny flash memory card that floats around your bloodstream dormate until it's activated to either control your thought patterns or notify those in power your location and actions.

So now they're giving the manufacturers cover if anything goes horribly awry.

This is why big pharma is getting all those govt. contracts and pay little or no tax.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:05 PM
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18. or maybe let it loose on
war protesters marching on the D.C. mall.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 02:06 PM
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10. A can of Raid and a bucket of Lysol nt
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:42 PM
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2. That liability shield is right out of bush's big germ speech last week
The gop won't rest til it's wiped out every consumer single protection.

They want to protect the manufacturers from damages, while packing the FDA with board members. :grr:
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:46 PM
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6. That scares me on the vaccine...
Who wants to take a vaccine when one of the first considerations is protection for the manufacturer from lawsuits by the recipient? Scary!
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:15 PM
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19. They will never stick me with another vaccine again.
In the Military as a young dumb fool I let them shoot me with a needle gun/vaccine and to this day can't remember what was shot into me.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:44 PM
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4. LMFAO ...
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 01:59 PM by Trajan
to the idea of GOP-conceived Barda agents, in a terrible disease crisis, running hither and thither to protect : Drug manufacturers ???

Hey ? ... What about protecting US for a fuckin change .. eh ?

Sheeeesh ...

NOT LMFAO ... pretty fuckin sad ...
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occuserpens Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:45 PM
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5. What about Holy Grail Agency?
First, they created DHS to put intelligence services together. Next, new services with purely imaginary goals are created outside of DHS.
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:48 PM
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7. HCA wouldn't have anything to do with this, would they?
n/t
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:55 PM
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9. We're being SET UP
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 01:56 PM by Angry Girl
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 02:21 PM
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13.  Senate Bill 1873 is a bill that is a setup also.
"The Biodefense and Pandemic Vaccine and Drug Development Act of 2005" You will find the wording under Senate Bill 1873 . Mandatory Vaccine Inoculations on US citizens

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5145215

Just one of those trees in the forest.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 02:09 PM
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11. Let's start with DOD/DIA/FBI Anthrax Man!
Sign him up!

Oh wait he might already be on board. :crazy:
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 02:15 PM
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12. ---Incoming transmission---
GERM SPY 1: ...crackle...Bad bug one reporting in..over...crackle...

FRIST GERM HQ: ....roger....proceed with Operation...Dem Meanie....copy...crackle....

GERM SPY 1: ...crackle...roger...encountered problem with anti-propaganda antibodies but proceeding....crackle...target in sight....crackle...

FRIST GERM HQ: ......roger, proceed....with caution..over...they are mutating with...a spine...they must be stopped...at once....copy....

GERM SPY 1: ....arrrghh...intercepted by truth.....tell my wife I love her......ughhhhh..........

FRIST GERM HQ: ....BAD BUG ONE!!!...copy!...are you there??!!....

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 02:26 PM
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14. I got my consonants and digraphs all mixed up on this one.
Frist, germ, and spies got all mingled together and resorted. sperm fries? germ flies? sperm guys?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 02:31 PM
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15. Tell me again Republicans are for less government.........
sounds more like a scheme to reward drug companies than protecting the American people.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 03:28 PM
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16. Will they weaponize anthrax "to study it"? eom
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ItsThePeopleStupid Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:33 PM
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20. they already did. n/t
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 10:06 PM
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23. Of course you are right. But I meant BARDA, which doesn't exist yet.
As you seem to be aware, the prior history suggests that BARDA too will be cooking up killers, under the guise of protecting us ...
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steely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 08:39 PM
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17. He's totally wacked.
Probably trying to drum up some boondoggle biz for his big pharma cronies.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:56 PM
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22. I think he really meant "sperm spy"
:shrug:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 10:16 PM
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24. This is an outrage
"It would have authority to shield drug manufacturers from liability lawsuits in the event a drug used to counteract a bioterrorism event or disease outbreak caused death or injury.

It also would be granted a blanket exemption from the federal Freedom of Information Act."

Put Frist in jail NOW before the fascist is allowed to do any more damage.

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