JEB BUSH JUST SIGNED FEEDING TUBE LAW

[matcom]

Breaking on CNN

JUST happened

[CO Liberal]

1. Maybe Someday He Can Do Something About His Brain-Dead Brother

:-)

[Guaranteed]

2. HA! n/t

[kainah]

3. and just heard that a judge refused to hear

an appeal from the husband!

This whole thing makes me furious!! Those pictures that the family (apparently) has put out of her with make-up on, etc. All designed to make it look as though she is responsive when anyone who knows anything about persistent vegetative states knows that these "responses" are nothing more than reflexive actions. I feel so sorry for the husband. And for her........

Let her go........

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. Does that mean that the state will pick up the tab for all indigents who

end up on feeding tubes? I would think so, unless this is a publicity stunt for Jeb. Personally, I think it's one that will backfire on him.

[shance]

11. It means the taxpayers of the state will. Jeb gives them the tab.

So is the purpose of this so hospitals and pharmaceutical industries will live happily ever after as they keep individuals alive who have absolutely no quality of life in stead of letting nature take its course?

Side note: I would imagine many doctors are furious about this. Overloads hospitals even more.

[janx]

4. I don't know why they bother to have courts in Florida...

Every time the courts hand down a decision or decisions that the right-wingers don't like, they go screaming to the legislature.

I remember well how they threatened to do that in 2000.

If the courts hand down a decision distasteful to right-wingers, the decision is simply to change the law.

??

I'm glad I don't live there.

[Imajika]

9. That is how it is supposed to work

"Every time the courts hand down a decision or decisions that the right-wingers don't like, they go screaming to the legislature."

That is what a legislature does - makes laws.

The problem here is that the majority of Floridians have voted for a right wing legislature which has absolutely no problem circumventing any court decision they don't like by writing new law.

The primary job of the legislature is to write new laws and update or revoke old ones. This is what they do, and so long as Floridians elect rightwingers to represent them - they will continue to write new laws whenever the mood strikes them.

Imajika

[shance]

12. The legislature MAKES LAWS, tyrants override judgements by the courts

There IS a reason for three bodies of government. Although you wouldnt know it because these individuals think they own the nation and everyone who doesnt have the same power and influence is irrelevant to them.

[Imajika]

22. Your making no sense

"The legislature MAKES LAWS, tyrants override judgements by the courts"

The legislature writes laws, courts interpret laws and determine their constitutionality.

If the Florida legislature wants to allow a Governor to begin feeding this woman again, that is their right. The people elect the legislature to write legislation, if Floridians didn't approve of what their legislature did they could vote them right out of office. If the legislature writes the law in a narrow and specific way, the court will likely have no other avenue than to rule in Jeb's favor.

Obviously, the legislature does not like this courts decision which is based on existing law. Therefore, the Florida legislature rewrites the law in a manner which forces the court to do what the Florida legislature wishes - which by the way, is proper and correct so long as it meets constitutional standards. The Florida legislature is the elected body which represents the people, they write the laws, and so long as Floridians elect rightwingers we will see cases of this again and again.

Tyrants would overturn the courts decision with no legislative process. This is not what happened in this case. Like or not, everything Jeb and his fanatics have done here appears quite legal. That is not tyranny, it is representative democracy - and it is all being done by those that the Florida people elected and chose to represent them.

Imajika

[flamingyouth]

6. Whatever happened to the missing foster kids

under his state's watch?

Um, NOTHING?

Fuck this so-called pro-life bullshit. This pisses me off.

I'm writing my living will tomorrow.

[Panda1]

7. This makes me sick

Jeb should take this woman into his own home. Perhaps Noelle can care for her.

[blackcat77]

8. First he "enforces a pregnancy" on a retarded woman

Now this.

Citizens of Florida, your lives are not your own. The state controls all. Hail Jeb!

[PghTiny]

10. Apparently, FL legislature is pro-suffering

Despicable swine!

[leetrisck]

13. "God" in Florida -

that's what the right just made jeb bush.

[Hawkeye-X]

14. My holographic will (Yes, this is a public will)

I'll write it in public.

I, David Tesler, of wacky and unstable mind do revoke all previous will and other codocils (I don't have one anyway) do hereby state the following to be done upon my death or in a vegetative state:

1) I wish NOT to live in a vegetative state, and would like a DNR enforced on my life in any event that I become a vegetable or act like George W. Bush.

2) I do bequeath all my miniscule assets to my wife, Leah Tesler, and ask that she contribute $25/year to DemocraticUnderground.com until she is deceased.

3) I bequeath my dog, Teddy, if he is still alive to my parents who are quite fond of him.

4) I bequeath my computer to DU to use as they see fit.

Hawkeye-X

[Norbert]

15. I just told my wife to pull the plug on me

if I am in a vegetative state and fight the dogooder politicians in order to keep my request.

Thats a bu$h for you. One of them has his handlers torture prisoners in Guantanamo, another tortures his wife, a third tortures a woman in a coma. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[UCLA02]

17. Not good enough...

Apparently, according to the husband, that's exactly what SHE did. (For all the good it did her...)

[IggleDoer]

16. Wonderful

Now the state of Florida officially supports continuing the suffering of brain-dead people. Compassionate Conservatism my ass!

[Gal522]

18. In this specific case, I wholeheartedly believe this is right

The more I read about this case the more it stinks. And I took the time to watch the actual videos (not just photographs) of Terri, and it is obvious, plain as day, that she is not in a coma, and is not a "vegetable" -- she laughs, cries, responds to both people and stimulii. She seems to get enjoyment out of life. She is especially happy to see her family, and her mother.

Her parents have volunteered to take over her care completely, and they even said they would let the husband (who, by the way, has had two children with another woman since his wife's accident) keep the money. I say let the parents take care of her.

[drfemoe]

24. That's Right

Her parents are willing to care for her. If she had no one, she would have been starved a long time ago ... and NO she is not "comatose"!

Does anyone else see the irony in this scenario???

Arguement: Pull the tube because that's what her husband says "Terri wants". We are interfering in her wishes and that will make her suffer because she is not being allowed to die.

Arguement: Pull the tube, but she won't suffer during her slow torturous death because she's 'brain dead'.. she'll never know the difference.

How can she suffer in one instance (being allowed to receive nutrition and live) and be oblivious in another (being starved-dehydrated to death)??

[DemVet]

30. I agree.

Well said.

[snippy]

19. What kind of sick society would allow

medical decisions to be made by doctors and legal decisions to be made by judges when such decisions rightfully should be made by elected clerics?

[IndianaGreen]

20. Is Jeb Bush going to pay for the care of this brain dead woman?

Or is his morality only goes as far as his wallet goes?

[DemVet]

31. I don't think money

should be the prime consideration here.

[Overkil]

32. The family said they would pay for all medical expenses

"Is Jeb Bush going to pay for the care of this brain dead woman?


Or is his morality only goes as far as his wallet goes?"


--Actually, the family has offered since the beginning of all this to pay for all continuing costs for her care. They have even offered to sign over what is left in her medical trust fund to him (the husband) but he won't agree. Supposedly, there is a life insurance policy for $750k that he is the beneficiary of and if a divorce is granted then that calls into question who the benefactor would be....maybe that's why he wants to let her die as opposed to walk away and let the parents take over care & costs.

[ParanoidPat]

21. I thought you couldn't change the rules......

.....after the game! Or does that only apply to elections? :shrug:
Since when do new laws become retroactive? Can they now declare demonstrations illegal and come and arrest all of us who demonstrated? :wtf:

[KamaAina]

23. Isn't it amazing how quickly the FL Legislature snaps into action

on behalf of ONE woman with a severe disability, while they spend the rest of their time making life miserable for the three million or so other Floridians who have disabilities, by cutting their Medicaid benefits and so on?

Apparently Jeb! and his Repuke minions are only interested in doing the right thing if WorldNetDaily tells them it's OK. :puke:

Edit: The sad thing is that the rabid anti-choice movement basically forced Jeb!'s hand in Terri's case. The even sadder thing is that progressives outside the disability rights movement have been, pardon the expression, dead silent. Think about it: What if Jeb!'s brother succeeded in banning abortion this very minute? Where would Terri's "friends" at WorldNetDaily and the like be then, once her case was no longer useful to their real interests?

Also think about this: Suppose that, in another hospital on the other side of the state, was a woman of about the same age, with the same condition, who was African American. Care to estimate the volume of public outcry, especially from the far right? (crickets chirp) (tumbleweed blows past saloon doors) (coyote howls in distance)

</rant> Ahhh... that felt good.

[Field Of Dreams]

25. I side with keeping her alive

... even if it is Jeb jumping in to "save the day." I work with kids, some of whom are profoundly mentally handicapped and physically handicapped. She is a lot more responsive than many of them are.

[KamaAina]

28. I side with keeping her AND thousands of others alive!

My concern is that, once the media glare dies down, Jeb! and the others will walk away with that smug, self-satisfied grin that says, "Look! We saved the poor, defenseless disabled woman!" and then go back to their daily business of sticking it to everyone else with (or without, actually) a disability in every conceivable way they can think of.

[Field Of Dreams]

26. I think she should be kept alive

... even if it is Jeb jumping in to "save the day." I work with kids, some of whom are profoundly mentally handicapped and physically handicapped. She is a lot more responsive than many of them are.

[Field Of Dreams]

27. sorry for the dupe post! n/t

[VolcanoJen]

29. UPDATE: Brain-Damaged Fla. Woman Receiving Fluids

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20031022/ap_on_re_us/comatose_woman

Excerpt:

The woman was taken by ambulance later Tuesday from the hospice where she had gone without food or water for six days. At a Clearwater hospital, she was being given fluids, a preliminary step toward reinserting the feeding tube.