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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:06 PM
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Chief Justice Rehnquist Dies at Home
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:18 PM by SW FL Dem
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:07 PM
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1. HOLEESHIT
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LevelB Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:09 PM
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3. Yah, this is not good.
Bush will do the country as much or more harm with his SCOTUS choices as he did with Katrina response.

B.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:32 PM
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64. He won't get the chance; Must be impeached now
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:36 PM by LeighAnn
Contact your lawmakers and demand his immediate impeachment (and Cheney's, too)


Nobody's going to trust a single thing these people say or do anymore. I've heard right-wingers saying things I've never heard right-wingers say about Bush. It's all over for him.

On edit: http://congress.org/stickers/?dir=congressorg&officials...
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:43 PM
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77. Absolutely!
GET * OUT of the Whitehouse! FROG MARCH HIM!
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:02 AM
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178. Double Ditto!!
Unless Sandra D. O'Connor is appointed (and I don't love her either for the 2000 election thing) but that is the best of the worst case senerios.... I mean can you imagine Scalia as CJ??!!
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:30 AM
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169. How? You can't get a worser scumbag than Rhenquist was.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:54 PM
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:05 PM
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105. and make tucker carlson describe it!
welcome to DU.
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Bodisat Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:15 AM
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145. Come on now, the man's dead,
have some respect.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:29 AM
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160. Why should I have respect for this man? No , thanks. n/t
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:48 PM
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204. Why pay respect to a man who deserves none?
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 09:49 PM by Sandpiper
A man who if he had his way, black people would still be sitting in the back of the bus.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:36 AM
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150. This is not good
If we don't run Buscho out on a rail, they get TWO seats on the court, one being the Chief.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:05 AM
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gokar Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:08 PM
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2. Shit means Bushits gets to appoint TWO wingnuts
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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:13 PM
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27. Rehnquist was already a wingnut
so it doesn't change the balance of the court. Unfortunately, it looks like the new Justice will probably be there for a very very long time.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:23 PM
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49. I beg to differ
I never liked Rehnquist, but I think there are many young judges out there who could make our lives miserable for many years to come. This is really bad news.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:53 PM
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93. Shit, he ALREADY made our lives miserable for 30 years. nt
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:07 AM
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179. but even he thought that shrub was pathetic, esp. Term 2
maybe while he knew he was dying, he decided to hang on to limit the damage that he and others wrought on the US.

Atonement of sorts.
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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:13 PM
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28. Rehnquist was already a wingnut
so it doesn't change the balance of the court. Unfortunately, it looks like the new Justice will probably be there for a very very long time.
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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:14 PM
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31. Sorry for the double post
My mistake.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:52 AM
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162. And this comes as a surprise to you?
:shrug:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:10 PM
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4. CNN: RENHQUIST HAS DIED
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:09 PM by sabra
http://www.cnn.com /

> BREAKING NEWS Chief Justice William Rehnquist died Saturday at age 80.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:10 PM
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5. Bet he died days ago and they are just announcing it now to try
and take the heat off bush. One man has died, well guess what, thousands have died and more are still dying.
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:50 PM
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89. Yep, Rove is very clever when it comes to diverting the media...
...away from Bush's f**k ups. Now we're supposed to feel sorry for the ol' fart.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:05 AM
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182. Yep...Rove had this one in his pocket alright. Interesting. Pure evil.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:06 AM
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183. An autopsy should be requested.
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pursuivant Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #183
189. It will show severe shrinkage of the heart and brain
that progressed markedly in the last 5 years.
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drfresh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:10 PM
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6. Damn, just damn.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:10 PM
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7. Oh shit. I just came back to post this. Shit shit shit.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:10 PM
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8. my sentiments exactly, but I used a more "colorful" term n/t
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:28 PM
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129. I'll See Your "Shit"s and Raise You A Couple Of "Fuck"s
n/t
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:08 PM
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197. I'll see your "shit"s and your "fuck"s and raise you a "Gods damnit."
n/t
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:10 PM
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9. Yup another disaster for America: Bush gets 2 SCOTUS appts.
No thanks to Rehnquist for December 2000, though.
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:10 PM
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10. And Scalia will be the new Cheif?
Isn't that the most likely scenario?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:42 PM
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75. That would increase the number of Senate consent hearings to THREE.
A nomination of a justice to chief justice is subject to the "advise and consent" provision of the Constitution.

If Smrk & Sneer, Inc, wanted to keep the consent hearings to a minimum, he'd make one of his open seat nominations directly to chief justice.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:04 AM
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143. Why would he want to do that?
The senate will roll over for whatever nominee Bush gives them. He need not give a damn about Democratic opposition, he only has to appoint someone mainstream enough not to alienate most Republicans.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:54 AM
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166. Everything changed since 8/29.........
I believe bush has just lost his rubber stamp. It's every Republican for himself right now, NO ONE wants to hitch their wagon to bush at the moment. The man is a walking disaster area himself and I don't think he's going to find the lockstep support he previously enjoyed.
Americans are going to start taking a good, long, hard look at everything else these assclowns have been doing for the last 4+ years and are NOT going to like what they see.
His popularity was tanking before 8/29, and the aftermath of this tragedy is going to erode even some of his most ardent supporters.
bush is going to have to be very careful in who he picks to replace Rehnquist IMO, he's walking the razor's edge as it is. He can kiss goodbye his second term agenda already. The country has had enough of his incompetence and will be watching very closely who he opts for.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:05 AM
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172. Good points, P-T
I too was thinking that, in his current position, the Chimp might be humbled enough to put forth a concensus candidate. But I also suspect, while other pols might just be religious opportunists, that President Cornpoop actually believes that he's Jesus' earthly messenger, and if he thinks that the Nazarene wants Jesse Helms on the supreme court he'll say so. Maybe the devious fucks like Darth Cheyney who actually run things will intervene. We'd still get a right winger but maybe a qualified right winger. Small consolation, but I'll take it.
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pursuivant Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:14 AM
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Emperor Chimpy "humble?"
When pigs fly. That man is arrogant as Satan.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:12 AM
Response to Reply #166
185. Well....yes, I agree, but it will just be temporary. Cheney will muscle
and threaten their very lives as well as their family's.

All these politicians need to do is publically tell America
that this administration is physically threatenning them
and believe me America and possibly even the military will
step in to stop these thugs.

Many of the military has family in New Orleans too to boot.



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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 PM
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11. top of CNN
Chief Justice William Rehnquist died Saturday at age 80.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 PM
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12. Oh shit.
Just heard it on CNN. This is not good at all.
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MNDEM2004 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 PM
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13. Chief Justice Dies. Just heard it on Cnn
N/T
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 PM
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14. A good time to get Katrina off the headlines.
N/T
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 PM
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16. Or slip a real loser nominee by everyone
Wouldn't put it past Cheney...
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:19 PM
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42. Exactly.
I'm thinking Ashecroft or Olsen. Either way it's bad.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:58 PM
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98. If they were the REAL MEN they say they are, they'd nominate Bork or Starr
(You know they want to...)

Mercifully, they're cowards, but the downside of that is that they'll send in guys (and they WILL be guys) who are in their 40s with very little track record. Following the fear-based conservative M.O., they'll force both of the votes through as if Chicken Little and his falling sky were about to hit any moment.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:15 PM
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112. Won't be Ashcroft; he's in the doghouse. But...fucking hell.
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:45 PM
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135. Both are too old
He will pick a younger nominee -- someone in their early 50's like Roberts. You can bet the nominee will be some right wing loon.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 PM
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17. I hope their schemes won't pay off.
They need to be accountable for EVERYTHING they have done and are doing contrary to the best interests of the people of this country.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:15 PM
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34. So true.....nt
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 PM
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15. Oh, crap.
Bush will appoint Pat Robertson to the Supreme Court.

And he'll interrupt rescue efforts to do it.

I hate this administration.

Fitz, PLEASE save us.
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gemlake Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 PM
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18. Chief Justice Scalia
get used to it
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:14 PM
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29. Unfortunately now Scalia now would likely oversee impeachment
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:15 PM by calipendence
hearings in congress if that happens later! :(
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:23 PM
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52. never will I "get used to it"
:banghead:
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:44 PM
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81. Here try this on for size...Chief Justice Thomas
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #18
110. NOT Necessarily... please read post #75 above.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 PM
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19. Looks like Bush hit another Trifecta
Oh well, we knew this was coming.

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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:14 AM
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186. Bada bing!!!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 PM
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20. that's 2 vacancies
the pressure will be on to confirm quickly
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:54 PM
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94. O'Conner's seat really isn't VACANT; she's serving until confirmation ...
... of her replacement. I'm hoping the Senate's recess is officially over, otherwise Smirk could do the totally outrageous and make a quick recess appointment.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 PM
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21. BREAKING: Rehnquist Dead. per CNN n/t
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:12 PM
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22. delete
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:12 PM by bluestateguy
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:12 PM
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23. Here come the conspiracy theorists....
:tinfoilhat:

Just remember people, you have to prove it.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:15 AM
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187. All we need is an autopsy.....Odds on this? zero to none.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:12 PM
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:23 PM
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48. Based on the treatment he was receiving,
He lived as long as (or longer than) expected after initial diagnosis. The treatment he was reported to be receiving is typical only for a particularly deadly and fast moving cancer.

Medical folks I spoke with never expected him to return to work at all after the initial reports of the treatment he was receiving.
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Longhorn79 Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:40 PM
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72. Are you kidding?
The dude had cancer and was walking like a duck. My brother is a physician at Bethesda and said he escaped death months ago, just barely.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:13 PM
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25. Is this the apocalypse?
Dems had better start fucking fighting tooth and nail against these goddamn republican incompetent pieces of crap.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:13 PM
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26. 10K died in NO
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:21 PM
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45. More than that will die if Roe v Wade is overturned.
:scared:
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Longhorn79 Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:42 PM
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73. Unless of course, you believe that a fetus is alive...
In which case, millions would be saved.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:05 PM
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104. Unless, you believe abortions would happen anyway.
In which case, "millions" more would die.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:34 PM
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:13 AM
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153. You think women should suffer injury and maybe death for having abortions?
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 01:25 AM by Zhade
"Honestly, if back alley coat-hangar abortions resulted in injury to the "mother" (since you use quotes for these terms) then I would consider that justice served."

Nice to know your insane stance. Here's a clue: it's none of your fucking business what a woman decides about HER body and choices.

You don't get a say, thankfully. Fuck your marginal vote.

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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:14 AM
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154. Embryos are not children
And you are not pro-life since you wish mothers would die if getting an abortion.

You seem to be happy with the potential consequences of outlawing abortion.

The woman's life must ALWAYS come before the clump of cells in her uterus, which is not a child by ANY stretch of biology.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:33 AM
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171. They want to ban Birth Control Pill too
MIGHT kill a fertilized egg "baby". Women better start waking up and FAST.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:22 AM
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168. More like a marginalizing vote. Marginalizing women.
If you're going to say that women being injured (women die from those injuries) from abortions is simply "justice served", then you're not only a Conservative, you're an "Army of God" type of Conservative.

If you're going to espouse the ideas, don't be a coward and shy away from the appropriate title for your ideas. You already wear it well.













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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:14 PM
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192. BANNED, fucker!
Fucking freeper asshole. Good riddance to your marginal "pro-life" vote!

Great work, mods! :toast:

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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:09 AM
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That belief has no business being forced upon any woman
any more than any woman should be forced to have an abortion.

A woman's choice does not belong to anyone but her.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:16 PM
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114. Rehnquist was never pro-choice, you know.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:20 AM
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176. Yes, I know...
And I was pretty certain he would not hold his seat until a Democrat was in office. But since O'Conner is out, we face a total rethuglican takeover of the government.

One thing I'll say for Rehnquist: I believe he respected the two-party system and saw the value of an equally proportioned Supreme Court.

Ideally, the court would be comprised of justices who could overlook their politics and deal simply with what is right and what is wrong, including what the government should and shouldn't have the power to decide...like who can get married and whether or not women should have abortions.

Too bad the country is not an ideal place.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:45 PM
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83. Contrasting
this man's death against the unprecedented genocide of the people in the Gulf.

I simply can't give Rehnquist's death or this issue any fucking CPU time.

-eom-
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:14 PM
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30. Well...the Democrats better get their shit together
This is war.
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ordinaryaveragegirl Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:15 PM
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32. F***ing shit...
Bush gets a chance to put TWO freepers on the bench. It's time to start writing your reps NOW, everyone. We need to start early and strong to try to keep some balance on the court, or we could be socially screwed...
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:18 PM
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39. This is what we were saying as early as 2000.
But some people wanted to screw around....

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:15 PM
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33. Rehnquist is a push
Bush is going to appoint another RW'er to replace him so it's a push. The big one is Roberts replacing O'Connor who was a swing vote.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:17 PM
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36. Nail...Head...
Impossible to do worse than Rehnquist.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:17 PM
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117. Not impossible, but they'd definitely have to work at it.
Just pray for the continued health of the rest of them...
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:19 PM
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41. But even Rehnquist stood against corporate personhood in the 70's...
Check Thom Hartmann's notes on this. He made a point that that was probably why the supreme court refused to rule on a case in the 70's that would have solidified support for corporate personhood, was because he didn't want to rule for or against it, based on what he discovered in the Santa Barbara/Southern PAcific case and what he felt it might do in the economy. Now you know that corporate shills like John Roberts and Scalia would rule for corporations in a moment. That is why I think that needs to become more a big part of the questioning of John Roberts now! We don't need to solidify corporations with equal and more rights than we the people do, which they likely will do if it comes there way now! So much for judicial activism if that case comes before then. They won't care that it originated that way!
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:37 PM
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69. Do you have a link? n/t
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:05 PM
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103. I heard it in a speech of his, but here's a link of Thom Hartmann's...

Go to this article...

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/05/01/int05004.html

And go to the following part:

...

It's interesting that in one of the most recent cases decided by the Supreme Court expanding corporate personhood, Chief Justice Rehnquist dissented. The case was First National Bank of Boston versus Bellotti, in 1978, and the bank was asserting that, as a "person," it had the right of "free speech" to interfere in politics. This was the case that kicked wide the door to corporations corrupting our political process in the last twenty-five years, and has led directly to the corporate capture and manipulation of Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, and Dubya as well as the majority of both houses of Congress, the Republican Party, and the DLC wing of the Democratic Party.

In opening his dissent, Rehnquist said: "This Court decided at an early date, with neither argument nor discussion, that a business corporation is a "person" entitled to the protection of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific R. Co., 118 U.S. 394, 396 (1886)."

This makes it pretty clear that neither Rehnquist nor his clerks actually read the Santa Clara case, but, as has been done for over a hundred years, were relying on the headnote. But, to his credit, Rehnquist disagreed with the headnote, saying:

"Early in our history, Mr. Chief Justice Marshall described the status of a corporation in the eyes of federal law: 'A corporation is an artificial being, invisible, intangible, and existing only in contemplation of law. Being the mere creature of law, it possesses only those properties which the charter of creation confers upon it, either expressly, or as incidental to its very existence. These are such as are supposed best calculated to effect the object for which it was created.'" Dartmouth College v. Woodward, 4 Wheat. 518, 636 (1819).


Rehnquist then added, brilliantly in my opinion:

"The appellants herein either were created by the Commonwealth or were admitted into the Commonwealth only for the limited purposes described in their charters and regulated by <435 U.S. 765, 824> state law. 2 Since it cannot be disputed that the mere creation of a corporation does not invest it with all the liberties enjoyed by natural persons, United States v. White, 322 U.S. 694, 698 -701 (1944) (corporations do not enjoy the privilege against self-incrimination), our inquiry must seek to determine which constitutional protections are "incidental to its very existence." Dartmouth College, supra, at 636.

"The free flow of information is in no way diminished by the Commonwealth's decision to permit the operation of business corporations with limited rights of political expression. All natural persons, who owe their existence to a higher sovereign than the Commonwealth, remain as free as before to engage in political activity."


In this dissent, Rehnquist demonstrated the difference between a classical conservative, as he is, and the new corporatists who call themselves conservatives. Interestingly, this interview would probably be just as interesting and agreeable to readers of the website of William F. Buckley Jr. as it is to the readers of BuzzFlash. This is an issue on which both classic conservatives and classic liberals agree.

...

So please note that with either Roberts as a new justice and likely anyone that Bush picks to replace Rhenquist, and if Scalia or Thomas get picked as chief justice we LOSE on this issue with the death of Rehnquist!
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:17 PM
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35. Regardless of his beliefs
Rest in Peace.

At least we have nothing to lose on his seat. But who will be picked CJ? Scalia?


(Please God no.)
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:47 PM
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87. I'm hearing Roberts will go through a double confirmation
one to sit on the court, another to become Chief Justice. I would still put money on Scalia though.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:16 PM
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116. A nomination to chief justice would only be a SINGLE consent hearing.
No matter who is nominated to Chief Justice, it requires Senate consent ... whether or not the nominee is already a Justice. A nomination of an outsider, even Roberts, would only require a single consent process in the Senate. If Roberts, then the Bushoilinis would merely withdraw his nomination to be a Justice and make a new nomination to the office of Chief Justice.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:17 PM
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37. Introducing CHIEF JUSTICE CLARENCE (is that a pubic hair?) THOMAS!!
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I7G0D Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:42 PM
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76. Damn this sucks but..............
Kablooie was that little racist remark called for?????
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:52 PM
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91. You don't remember the hearings for Clarence Thomas?
A pubic hair was the center of attention for a while.
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I7G0D Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:12 PM
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111. Nope I must have missed that
Still the comment was uncalled for.
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pursuivant Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:12 AM
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184. Nothing racist about it the "pubic hair" remark
It was brought up during Clarence Thomas' confirmation hearings as something THOMAS said to Anita Hill - a fellow African-American law professor.

Anita Hill raised serious sexual harrassment allegations against Thomas, but the Repuke senators did their usual smear and distract job to deny her credibility and get Thomas appointed. To this day, I think that the person who should have been nominated and confirmed to the SCOTUS was Anita Hill.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:59 PM
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99. I don't think so. He has never opened his mouth in court so why should he
now?
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:49 PM
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137. Thomas doesn't want it
He does not want to be subjected to the confirmation process again. One can surely understand why given he is unqualified to be a member of the court in the first place.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:17 PM
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38. Pat Robertson's prayer answered???
nt
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:30 PM
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59. Someone needs to ask Pat if he thinks God killed Rehnquist
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:18 PM
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40. Damn, we're screwed!!!
When it rains it pours. :scared:



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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:19 PM
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43. actually, this could be bad timing for bush
I'm sure he would've preferred to get Roberts through and then deal with Rehnquist's replacement later. With both spots up at the same time, even though Rehnquist was as far right as they come, it may give the Dems the opportunity to push back against an extemist. And Bush's political standing is low and sinking right now, so maybe the Dems in the Senate will get the backbone they've not particularly shown up until now.

onenote
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:19 PM
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44. So we can keep tabs on the Freeper response:
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:18 AM
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155. That one was a dupe
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:21 PM
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46. THERE IS ONLY ONE SOLUTION SHORT OF CIVIL WAR.
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:23 PM by rzemanfl
Retake Congress in 2006, impeach Bush and Cheney and use a resignation and appointment strategy to get either Gore or Kerry to be Speaker of the House. One of them can then appoint the other as Vice-President. Then pack the court like Roosevelt tried to. Otherwise, it's fascism or civil war or fascism and civil war.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:48 PM
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136. You're right. And there's never been a better time for it.


Even some republicans would vote for it now. My only hesitation, is there a real chance of winning any election from now on? I begin to doubt it since the republicans control the legislature, the courts, the executive, and most importantly, the voting machines. Some of us have foreseen insurrection in our future for the last four years. It looms large now.

That having been said I wonder if it really matters at this point. The economy will take a possibly fatal blow from the disaster at the gulf coast. Not only NO was destroyed, Biloxi and other cities were cut off at the knees. This will certainly be a belly blow to the economy. The lack of sufficient petroleum will also have a drastic effect. And don't forget the fact that Iran is starting it's own oil market and diversifying into the euro among other currencies, so the dollar will no longer be the fiat currency of trade. And that will HURT!

Then there's global warming. With arctic ice disappearing at such an alarming rate it can't be long before the salinity of the north atlantic goes low enough that the atlantic conveyor is turned off. At that point it's Katie bar the Door. No one knows the results of that except that europe will get cold. And we can be sure that the weather here will not be the same. Those areas that we depend on for growing food won't support that anymore. Where our sustenance will come from is anyone's guess.

As you can tell, I'm not very positive about our future. And I blame it all on George W. Bush.

Some call him the Anti-Christ.

Not me.

I call him Shiva, Destroyer of Nations.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:34 AM
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149. Sviva, Eh??
I call him King Sadim. Reverse Midas. Everything HE touches turns into a great big pile of shit.
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Joyce Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:07 AM
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159. Thank Rehnquist for the Bush presidency
It was the Rehnquist court that decided FOR Bush & Cheney v. Al Gore in 2000. It's hard to imagine a worse result for this country than that action by the Supreme Court, denying "states' rights" to Florida and crowning King George by default.


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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:19 PM
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193. I agree.
Though here's the scenario that's more realistic that I like: Either Bush is removed or Cheney keels over, elevating Hastert to VP. That means a new Speaker of the House, and with the highest-ranking House Republican being Tom DeLay, there could be two factions of the GOP: the pro-DeLay neocons and the moderates who don't want to risk political sabotage. If this rift continues into the voting process, and every Democrat votes for Nancy Pelosi, there's a chance we could have Speaker Pelosi. Then once the shit REALLY hits the fan, Pelosi eventually gets elevated to the presidency.

Sure it might just be a pipe dream, but dammit, sometimes that's all we have to be optimistic about.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:22 PM
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47. Holly Shit !
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:23 PM
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50. I'm crushed
not
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:23 PM
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51. oh shit, Canada, want us?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:24 PM
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53. I have very mixed feelings
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jurassicpork Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:25 PM
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54. Let the games begin
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:25 PM by jurassicpork
It's just a shame that Rehnquist forever tarnished the last five years of a 60 year-long career in jurisprudence by helping to appoint Bush as President.

This is going to be a wild, wooly year on Capitol Hill.

JP
http://jurassicpork.blogspot.com
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:27 PM
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55. May God have mercy on us, Bush won't.
Too many bad things going on at the same time. Bush is incompetent and a bully and appoints incompetents and bullies.

I feel fearful for our nation.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:28 PM
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56. Holy Red A-fucking-lert
This is really, really bad.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:30 PM
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57. Oh crud!!
I just saw this at MYDD and hoped it wasn't true.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:30 PM
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58. Whoa. THat was sudden. Maybe the timing isn't that bad.
I mean, of course, it's bad for him.. as it sucks to die. But, politically, since we're discussing that, is there no better time for Bush to make appointments than when people are regarding Bush with total disdain? Not like the guy has any political clout anymore, even the republicans are pissed at him.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:31 PM
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60. Theocracy, here we come.
I, for one, will join Cindy, and refuse to pay taxes to a theocratic, anti-woman, anti-minority government.

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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:31 PM
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Dems Must Fight for the Life of the Nation - NOW!
Bush has never been weaker! He is vulnerable. The Democrats must now find courage and fight against any Bush appointment. First things first - Democrats and loyal American Republicans in the Senate must demand that the entire Bush Administration resign now for gross crimminal negligence for the Iraq War and the lack of preparation and response to Katrina. The blood of thousands of Americans killed and maimed in Iraq and on the Gulf Coast is on their hands. 9/11, Iraq and Katrina happended on the Bush Administration watch - whether from ignorance, incompetence, arrogance or crimminal malfeasance, the results are the same. They must be held accountable and forced to resign in disgrace. They are killing us and the country cannot wait for a Democratic Congress after the 2006 election and possible impeachment. The Bushies,all of them, every elected and appointed member of that administration must be shown the door, NOW!

The Democrats must not cooperate, compromise or give-in to anything from this corrupt, immoral, deadly administration. We must fight them on every front and persist with resolve until they are gone!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:43 PM
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79. Corporatism will now come into full being by both parties
Imperialism and theocracy will be accepted by Lieberman, Biden, and the Clintons. Falwell's chief lawyer to be nominated. The democrats in power will find the man reasonable.

They will fire Dean as a heathen and hang Kucinich as anti-government.

Clarence Thomas will be appointed as the new head justice and he will give Condi an award for her consumerism in buying shoes and keeping the economy vibrant. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson will also be lynched as anti-government.

NO will be given to the rich with government vouchers to pay their workers $5.00 an hour, with $3.00 paid to the employers out of the employee checks for housing and food. Healthcare does not exist. That will be left to God.
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Joyce Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:32 AM
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161. I'll drink to that! :toast:
All U. S. citizens who agree (as I do) with the opinion of Riverman need to write this and say this to every Representative, Senator, and all others who will listen. This is absolutely necessary if we are to survive. The time for action is NOW!

:toast:
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:31 PM
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61. We need to push for impeachment
now more than ever. The meme should be "if a man would kill poor people in New Orleans for politics, why should we allow him to appoint TWO judges for the Supreme Court." Eben the Repubs are beginning to bandond ship, so it is possible.

Impeachment should be the major thrust of the Sept 24th protest. Forget the zillion-and-a-half issues that ANSWER brings to the fore. Impeachment due to incompetence should be the message. We have more than enough evidence.

And a moratorium on all political appointments until then. It is clear from Bush's appointmnt of Brown as head of FEMA. That guy is as useless as tits on a bull.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:32 PM
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62. This is just a horrible time to be following Politics...
all these events are happening at the same time!

It's maddening.
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leftyleftist Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:26 PM
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124. What a fucking week...
Unfuckingblievable, just unfuckingbelievable....
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:32 PM
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63. Fuck, may g-d rest his soul
and protect us in this coming anarchy
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Seeking Serenity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:33 PM
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65. We better be praying for John Paul Stevens' heart (n/t)
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:33 PM
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66. The ROBBER BARONS get to appoint another paid-off THUG ...
to our highest court. Sad days for America.

Bye bye Bill of Rights ! It was nice while it lasted.

Expect the POLICE STATE to flourish.





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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:06 AM
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144. Rehnquist never saw a police action he didn't like. Won't be missed.
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:21 AM
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156. Or a corporation he would not protect
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:09 AM
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174. Yes, and if the whorish Corporate USA media focus on the a**hole all day
I'm not viewing ... damn! How convenient for him to die NOW so the ghouls in the Executive Branch can attempt to take the American Sheeple's focus off of our most horrific National Disaster.

Please don't let the media whores take their eyes off of the Gulf Coast?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:03 AM
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181. Yea but notice the sick mind would want persecute others untill..........
he was declared literally GONE

I won't gloat, there are probably MILLIONS who would be more than eager to take his place. Heaven and hell can be seen right here on earth if your willing to look
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:34 PM
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67. Sad for a couple of reasons, but not unexpected.
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:36 PM by wisteria
May he rest in peace. And God forgive him for being responsible for giving us George Bush. Now that said, I'm frightened about another Bush pick and Scalia advancing to Chief Justice. We had all be ready for a fight. More bad times ahead.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:37 PM
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68. I have a mental image of a visit from Republican thug/henchman
David Bossie, after which it's discovered Rehnquist fell down his steps and expired.



But that would never happen, would it?
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:40 PM
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70. We are screwed
I can only hope that with Bush's historically low approval ratings that some Republicans decide to side with the Democrats to eliminate the worst of the nominees. Or maybe he will appoint Gonzales who is bad but not as bad as he could be. If that makes any sense.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:44 PM
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80. are you talking about Gonzales the pro-torture guy?
not as bad as he could be? I beg to differ
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:36 AM
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151. Well it is all relative
I suppose he will really nominate Priscilla Owens or Pryor or someone like that. That's all I meant.
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direwolf Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:40 PM
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71. Home...
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:42 PM by direwolf
No way.

Ok, look at it like this:

It must suck. But, we'll all have to deal with it.

Hey, at least you didn't die waiting to be rescued from your home's rooftop. Or, in a wheelchair at the Superdome or at the Convention Center.

Guess I'm just sayin' count your blessings.

Unnerstand?

Am prayin' for ya.

Well, sorta.

(edit: ok, don't even ask)
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:42 PM
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74. It is at times like this that I hope there is a God
and that people get what they deserve. It will be pretty toasty for Old Bill if that's the case.

I knew of course that Old Bill wouldn't last 3 1/2 years and that the idiot would get the chance to nominate a Chief Justice. The only comfort I take is that Bush's political capital is probably at an all time low right now. It is cold comfort of course, but I guess it is better than no comfort.

As an aside, I went to law school with Rehnquist's son Jamie. He looked just like his father. I didn't know him that well and didn't know much about his politics.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:43 PM
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78. Republicans were circling over the Chief Justice like vultures
just waiting for him to expire.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:44 PM
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82. DAMN US ALL
I'm not looking forward to this shit.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:45 PM
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84. OMG
I'm truly shocked and freaked out at the prospect of Bush getting two SC picks.

Fuck
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papercut Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:46 PM
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85. So that's where Cheney's been!
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leftyleftist Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:27 PM
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127. Exactly what I thought
Are Cheney and Rehnquist the same person or something?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:46 PM
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86. Has David Duke been located yet?
(resident of flooded Metairie, La.) He better check in soon, or else Bush** will have to appoint someone slightly less of a Nazi to fill Rehnquist's seat. :sarcasm:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:48 PM
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88. Here
http://www.davidduke.com /

Lots of sympathy for the NOLA victims too. To think how many Louisianans actually voted for this guy for governor.
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:19 PM
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121. wow.. this guy takes the loonie cake.
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:29 PM
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194. Oh he does, but...
...there's one picture on his site that's hilarious, regardless of race.

It's a picture of a boarded-up storefront, and on the boards it says, "Don't try. I am sleeping inside with a big dog, an ugly woman, two shotguns, and a claw hammer. Looters will be shot."

Maybe it shouldn't be funny, but dammit, it is.

Anyways, burn in hell, Rehnquist. Tell Ronald Reagan the US says hi.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:52 PM
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90. Game over, man.
If Bush gets his way, this whole nation is going to look like New Orleans by the end of his term.

Be afraid. And Democrats, for once in your lives, FIGHT!
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:53 PM
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92. Time to start figuring out which country to expatriate to
The US is quickly going down the tubes and the * admin stacking the SC with their thugs will make things much, much more unpleasant. Face it, the dems are NOT going to save us.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:56 PM
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96. I don't want to get to the politics of this man's death. I just hope he
did not suffer. He served this country his whole life, whether you agreed with him or not, he was a character alright.

Condolances to his family and I hope the MSM give them privacy.

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:57 PM
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97. Hey....better he die now than later!!!!!
This is not such a bad thing....better he die before the Johnny Bob Taliban hearings, right?

Now the Dems know what they are facing.....plus they have a bit of momentum on their side....given the fiasco and devastation in New Orleans...

Stop being so defeatist and fatalistic.....

Please send some powerful vibes to the Dem Judiciary committee members of : Kennedy, Leahy, Feinstein, Biden, Kohl, Feingold, Schumer, and Durbin...in fact, why not call them TOLL FREE 1-800-828-0498 and tell them how you feel?! Call them Tuesday....and tell them the Supreme Court is NOT a place for johnny bob taliban, OK? thx.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:01 PM
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100. Now the media has an excuse to stop covering Katrina.
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:03 PM
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101. As a pro-choice woman I haven't much to say...
Shortly after Nixon named him as an associate justice, Rehnquist and Justice Byron White were the only dissenters in the landmark Roe v. Wade case (1973), which established that a woman's right to an abortion was protected under a woman's right to privacy.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/03/rehnquist.obit/index....
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:04 PM
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102. Shit
Say hello to Chief Justice Scalia :(
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Deep N RedLand Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:06 PM
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106. I predict metal coat hangers will be back in vogue...
...with two new far-right radicals on the court now.

Get ready for the systematic dismantling of women's control of their own lives, worker's rights and equality...ready to all go down the drain.

Almost a century of progress will be lost in the NeoCon plan to destroy this country.

This is what we all feared folks. Looks like it's here.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:07 PM
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107. Well, lets try to remember one of his finer moments:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:08 PM
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108. Guys, I didn't like his decisions either but show some respect
the man just died.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:10 PM
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109. The Repukes have been circling him like vultures since his cancer
They are gonna want a neo-Nazi to fill the vacancy before Rehnquist is cold.

We're not the ones you should tell to be respectful
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Deep N RedLand Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:20 PM
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122. Exactly.
With some Cons disappointed that Roberts is "not conservative enough" on all some things, anyone would be a fool to think they will not insist on the most radical goose-stepper to for Chimmpy's second replacement and as soon as possible.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:18 PM
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118. He has our respect for God's sake
It's just who W will replace him with. The guy liked orgies.

His replacement is likely to set up a theocracy.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:19 PM
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119. Sorry. No respect.
Spit on him and his family. You think differently?
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YEM82 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:17 AM
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146. Absolutely
I dont write much, but i read often...We're not republicans. Dont make the personal attacks. Disagree with his policies (as we all do), but the man is dead. He doesn't need to have his person attacked.

v/r
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Bodisat Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:22 AM
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147. Yes
The man has served his country. He worked until the time he died. And what, because you disagree with his opinion you say spit on him and his family. What makes your opinion more worthy than his. Did you spend your life studying, reflecting, and struggling over the constituionality of things? I didn't agree with the man on many things, but I never thought that the decisions he made were made with malice, or politics. So yeah, I think differently.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:12 AM
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175. Oh yes, we understand exactly ...
Where you are coming from. :eyes:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:29 AM
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201.  A state of being with less hate and more humility?
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:15 PM
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113. And thus, the end of an era
There is no doubt in my mind that the next Chief Justice will be Scalia.

The court will swing toward it's conservative conscience, and the entire Federal Government will be being run by business interests and religious zealots.

Even if every election from here on goes totally to the democrats, there is no reversing what has now been set in motion. Even if Bush is impeached, there is no reversing the current course.

We will live in a religiously conservative oligarchy for the foreseeable future.

With the election now corrupted and defunct, the only reasonable scenario that will prevent at least 20-30 years of an oppressive state toward the majority in the short term is revolution.


Sorry to rant. I'm just very sad. I'm sorry Rhenquist died. I hope his soul rests well. He was an old American conservative. I like to imagine he wouldn't resign simply because he couldn't tolerate the notion of handing over his powerful office to Bush.

God save America.

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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:16 PM
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115. No words. Too upset. R.I.P., Mr. Chief Justice. nt
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:19 PM
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120. Rest in Peace
My prayers go out to his family and friends.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:24 PM
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123. Chief justice shaped high court conservatism (William Rehnquist dead)
Chief Justice William Rehnquist died on Saturday evening at his home in Arlington, Va., a spokeswoman for the the supreme court announced.

"The Chief Justice battled thyroid cancer since being diagnosed last October and continued to perform his duties on the court until a precipitous decline in his health the last couple of days," Kathy Arberg, the court's spokeswoman said. The chief justice was surrounded by his three children at the time of his death, she said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5304454 /

I'm tempted to dance the jig, but it's late, I'm tired, and uncoordinated.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:26 PM
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125. One less reactionary asshole in the world tonight.
Trouble is, Bush could very well select an even crazier freak who will make Rehnquist seem like Michael Moore in comparison. :scared:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:27 PM
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126. This REALLY SUCKS! END OF MESSAGE.
:nuke: :hide:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:33 PM
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131.  US Chief Justice Rehnquist dies after battle with cancer (AFP)

US Chief Justice Rehnquist dies after battle with cancer


04/09/2005 04h10

WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Chief Justice William Rehnquist, a leading conservative voice on the US Supreme Court for three decades, died late Saturday after a battle with thyroid cancer, authorities announced. "William Rehnquist, the 16th Chief Justice of the United States, died this evening at his home in Arlington, Virginia surrounded by his three children," the Supreme Court said in a statement. His death opens a second vacancy on the court following the retirement this year of Justice Sandra Day O'Connor.

Federal appeals court judge John Roberts has been appointed by President George W. Bush to replace O'Connor, but he is expected to face a tough confirmation hearing, during which his positions on issues ranging from abortion to the role of government will be closely scrutinized.

Rehnquist's passing means the president is likely to have another major political battle on his hands. Rehnquist was first appointed to the Supreme Court in 1971 by President Richard Nixon and took his seat on January 7, 1972.

He was elevated to chief justice by President Ronald Reagan in 1986. Rehnquist was a strong opponent of abortion, gay rights, gun control and affirmative action for minorities.

<http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/050904040747.h5... >
(more at link above)
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:27 PM
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128. Did he die of thirst or hunger or exposure?
Just wondering ...
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:29 PM
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130. Can you spell trifecta??!!??
n/t
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:37 PM
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133. we are so fucked, Bushfucktard is going to cause havoc
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 11:44 PM by DainBramaged
total distraction. Will nominate some super radical hump job and then push Roberts as the lesser of two evils.

We are so fucked right now. UNLESS, we can get a motion to impeach.

Chances of that happening:

I will grow a second head first.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:50 PM
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138. GOING TO???????
you wanna rephrase that about tuckfard? he has caused nothing but havoc for 5 years.....

any president that goes months without going after Bin Laden then ignores him a few months later, and can't obtain armor to protect his troops in a multi billion dollar industry during a war, and THEN ignores a giant disaster for days on end deserves to be given the props he deserves... he's been causin havoc for 5 years! the jerk.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:43 PM
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134. Oh Canada, Oh Canada....lalalala la
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:57 PM
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139. Our home and native land/True Patriot love
...who wants to continue?
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:04 PM
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196. In all thy sons command..
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:59 PM
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140.  I think we are looking at 25+ years of Chief Justice Clarence Thomas.
He's younger than Fat Tony. This fits with Rove's mission of constructing a new Thousand Year Reich.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:00 AM
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141. Chief Justice Pat Robinson, the prophet
He will be thankin God he died but is it ok for us to ask the gods of rock heads for the same for him?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:03 AM
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142. Doesn't matter. Partisan hack out, partisan hack in.
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Giant Robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:22 AM
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148. It keeps getting worse...
I really don't know if this is a break for Bush or not. Obviously it takes the press off the horrors of NO. That is without a doubt. But it will put even more pressure on an already over-stressed administration that has shown no capacity to handle stress. This may push him into making further screw ups and gosh, can we hope, impeachment. I know its a stretch but I gotta make to try to stay sane. Because we are even more fucked now. Replacing an arch-conservative on the SC almost gives Bush license to pick the most far-right wingnut he can. And as far as Rehnquist goes, I am glad his suffering on Earth is over, as cancer is a horrible thing to watch a loved one die from. My sainted father passed away from cancer, and I'm telling you all, there are so very few people on this planet I would want to wish that on. My condolences to his family.
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TheModernTerrorist Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:56 AM
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152. here's where the fun begins...
I say they do the unexpected: pull Osama out of the bag and put him up for confirmation. NO ONE will see it coming! eh? eh? ;-)
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:36 PM
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195. Chief Justice Hugo Chavez...
Just for shits and giggles.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:22 AM
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157. The interesting thing was Rehnquist held on till the end
He had no intention, and stated that publicly, he would remain on the court as long as his health permitted. And it was only in the last few days his condition turned for the worse.

I found that an interesting statement, as well as O'Connor's intent to stay until her successor's confirmation is completed.

Therefore it makes me wonder why they both wanted to hang on as long as possible. Was there something about the administration they were uncomfortable with?
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:41 AM
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158. Believe it or not ...
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 01:56 AM by Laelth
... all Justices on the Supreme Court get a little more liberal as they age. It's natural. There's only so much human misery that one can adjudicate before a judge is forced to back off of his or her once-cherished conservative illusions. Even Justice Scalia is starting to come around in regards to the erosion of the 4th amendment (our protection against unreasonable searches and seizures) and our Reagan-era mandatory sentencing guidelines (the ones packing our prisons with non-violent felons). He and Clarence Thomas have started voting with Ginsberg, Souter, and Bryer in a string of cases on these issues. In short, as nearly all Justices do, they are becoming more liberal, as even did Rehnquist in his later years.

For this reason, I'm sad to see Rehnquist go. Bush will give us another young, neo-nazi that we'll have to live with until that new Justice wakes up to reality (and this usually takes many years on the court).

But don't believe for a moment that Bush will nominate a moderate. And, please, let's not call for civil war. Calling for a bloodbath merely undermines our credibility.

-Laelth
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:10 AM
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167. Roberts WAS the moderate. Now they go for the Wingnut.
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Baconfoot Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:53 AM
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163. Why do I keep having this funny feeling I'll be seeing DC again soon?NT
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:48 AM
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165. could hell be worse?
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:31 AM
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170. wow...Jr. gets to REALLY fuck up the court now
eom
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:06 AM
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173. The idiot will now perpetuate the neo-con agenda for the next 35 years
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:56 AM
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177. God help us all
God have mercy on this country.
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pursuivant Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:59 AM
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180. St. Peter: 5-4 decision against letting him into heaven
If Pat Roberts can channel God, then so can I.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:20 AM
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188. Couldn't we impeach Bush RIGHT NOW with 2 less conservative judges?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:20 PM
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190. Bush** is really gonna have to rack his brains...
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 01:22 PM by KamaAina
or whatever that gooey stuff between his ears is, to find someone who's as much of a bigoted fascist as Rehnquist. He'll probably manage somehow... What really concerns me is Chief Justice: either Scalia or (gulp) Uncle Thomas. :scared:

Edit: Oh shit, King Dumbass** has an extra special incentive to pick Uncle Thomas. That'll be his way of demonstrating that he really does care about black people with all his heart and soul (if he had any, that is), no matter what that America-hating commie Kanye West says. :sarcasm:
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GlenP Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:24 PM
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191. Perhaps.

Perhaps O'Conner will take this opportunity to recind her resignation, in light of Rehnquist's death.

If that's even possible, it might be the best senario at this point.

If she can and does do that, then the worst is that Bush replaces one ultra regressive (Rehnquist) with another ultra regressive (Roberts).

PERHAPS, if O'Conner is pegged as the most favored to receive the Chief Justice role, she will choose to stay on.

Surely she can't be happy with a nominee to replace her that would seek to overtrun Roe-v-Wade, and most of the other cases she voted in favor of.

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:27 PM
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198. Thanks, Ralph.
Run again in 2008.

Putz.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:10 AM
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200. Yep, exactly.
FU, Ralph.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:41 PM
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199. I will guarantee that if W appoints a far right winger
who only represents a minority, I will also refuse to pay taxes. Without a doubt.

The extremists can pay taxes for their extremist appointments. I won't.

I'll also watch how many right wingers send their kids to Iraq for W's war.
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AceAlmighty82 Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:07 AM
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202. It gets better!!!!!
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:47 PM
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203. America is one nasty old bigot lighter
Tsk tsk me if you will, but I'm not going to pretend that the late Chief Justice is anything other than a complete racist asshole.
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