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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:14 PM
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Britain heads for clash with US
Disagreement over America's bid to derail UN reform

Britain will join an international alliance to confront George Bush and salvage as much as possible of an ambitious plan to reshape the United Nations and tackle world poverty next week .

The head-to-head in New York on Monday comes after the revelation that the US administration is proposing wholesale changes to crucial parts of the biggest overhaul of the UN since it was founded more than 50 years ago.

A draft of that plan had included a review of progress on the UN's millennium development goals - poverty eradication targets set in 2000 for completion by 2015 - and the introduction of reforms aimed at repairing the damage done to the UN's reputation by Iraq, Rwanda and the Balkans.

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The Foreign Office confirmed yesterday that Britain was standing behind the original plan, putting it at odds with Mr Bush.

The concern in British and other international circles is that the American objections, if adopted, would severely undermine the UN summit, the biggest-ever gathering of world leaders.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1557552,00.html
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:17 PM
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1. George Bush attempt to tackle world poverty?
Edited on Fri Aug-26-05 10:17 PM by HypnoToad
How? By making us all so piss poor so we're on level ground?

Just nuke us all until we're like a marshmallow peep in a microwave and have it done... :crazy:
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:23 PM
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3. No. Bolton proposed basically axing world poverty aid, and other ongoing
Edited on Fri Aug-26-05 10:36 PM by Verve
UN projects. Others he proposed to eliminate include AIDS help, eliminating global warming etc...

Our leaders are whacked! I hope the world puts their foot down against us!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2035433&mesg_id=2035433
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:17 PM
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2. The Poodle is Bolton'?
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:29 PM
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4. Bush is uniting the world against us.
Can we really go through 3 1/2 more years of this insanity??
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 10:00 AM
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19. Well he did say he was a uniter not a divider.
:sarcasm:
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:30 PM
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5. Just my opinion, but I see Shrub headed for a world community smackdown.
I'm popping the popcorn... :popcorn: I just can't wait, and its about time!!
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:35 PM
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6. Really. Bring on the smackdown.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 12:15 AM
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11. unwise to ask for it
There is a very significant risk of that smackdown entailing military action against the US.

Kicking the neocons out of office is not merely a matter of morality. It's getting to the point of self-preservation. If the rest of the world doesn't bomb us to smithereens in retaliation for their idiocy, they're rather likely to start killing us outright if left unchecked.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 12:28 AM
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12. Not military
but economic reprisals, yes!
Might wake up the sheeple and their reps to IMPEACH the Fucktard of Bab's putrid womb!
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 12:51 AM
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13. I'm not convinced there will be no military reprisals
All it really takes is a large enough coalition, and Bushler has literally united the world against us. He can't carpet-nuke the entire world, even with the size of the US nuclear arsenal.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 01:26 AM
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15. If he uses nukes
even tactical ones, will be another ballgame. However if he uses tactical, he would use statigic ICBMs unless the military says hell NO!
The U$ does have the advantage in ICBMs if they have been maintained.
Is BU$HCO that crazy? I hope not, I hope they are just greedy and not suicidal.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 01:29 AM
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16. Bushler's an End Timer ... you bet he's that crazy. n/t
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 01:43 PM
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28. That's what scares me, too. He believes he's an agent of God.
And maybe he's just trying to "help" God along a little with the Apocalypse scheduling. He believes God "anointed" him. So anything he does has God's blessing behind it.

SICKO. SICK FUCK.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 12:22 PM
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24. Hey - look what it too with German and Japan.
If that's what it takes, I'm all for it.

Unfortunately, we - the non-collaborators and not-guilty will suffer along side the collaborators and guilty.

If that's what it takes, I'm all for it.

I will be on the side of the resistance. Which side will YOU be on?
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 01:09 PM
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27. I'll probably just try to flee the country
And I'll probably die trying anyway.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:36 PM
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7. Go get 'em Britan!
Stand up to the mustachioed one.

The bushwa have their Machiavellian plants everywhere and there's no subtlety about it.
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:45 PM
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8. Way to go Britain!
750 changes to a 36 page draft? That's over 20 changes per page! Sounds like a complete rewrite to me.

I hope Bushco's belligerence is going to backfire this time. I have to think Britain is getting impatient with their involvement in Iraq (no end in sight) and Bush's act is wearing real thin. I also hope that other nations, especially major industrial nations, follow Britain's lead.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:55 PM
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9. Way To Go Poodle
Just what the EU needs to bring them together. The great Poodle.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 11:06 PM
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10. Yeah, sure, Blair will stand up to Bush--what a laugh.
He'll roll over in an instant. Woof, woof says the Poodle as he scampers out of the room.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 12:57 AM
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14. right - he'll be sitting there waiting
for his doggie treat 2 B thrown his way - a bone shaped carlyle chewie.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 10:55 AM
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22. Blair would masturbate junior publicly for the Carlyle position
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 02:50 AM
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17. Blair is leaving for the Carlyle Group ...
woof - woof - he's roll over, no creditability.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 10:04 AM
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20. Nope, he's headed straight for the Tower of London. But little Euan
Blair is heading for some Repuke slush fund think tank....maybe emulating 'Prince William' who takes up his city work experience with the Riggs Bank shortly....
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 12:36 PM
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26. Poodle boy wants, Poodle boy gets
as long as he *woof* *woof* barks loud enough!

:nopity: :nopity: :nopity: for any of these CROOKS!

:kick:

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 09:05 AM
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18. kick
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 10:07 AM
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21. kick! ( for 750 lil' obstructions).......
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 11:57 AM
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23. Gosh, I'm soooooo glad * went around our "Obstructionist" Congress
Edited on Sat Aug-27-05 11:58 AM by Up2Late
and appointed Bolton.:sarcasm:

I guess this is why he couldn't wait for a better nominee.:mad:
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 12:25 PM
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25. All going as planned by the administration
Look, this is the plan:

Put a bunch of outrageous changes in the document. Insist on stupid stuff that you know will never be approved. Jump up and down and pitch a hissy fit, and then finally "concede" the majority of points only if approval of a few changes are made. Those minor changes will be the major points they wanted all along.

Don't be fooled. They needed a jerk like Bolton to pull it off.
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