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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:25 PM
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30 Kids Left Behind After Immigration Raid
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050730/ap_on_re_us/immigration_arrests_children_5

ARKADELPHIA, Ark. - About 30 children, some as young as 3 months old, were left without their parents after immigration agents raided a poultry plant and took the parents away to face possible deportation.

While some of the arrested workers were able to call and arrange care for their children, others were not and a local church had to help make arrangements.

The mayor said what happened to the children was a shame.

"A lot of those families had kids in day care in different places, and they didn't know why Mommy and Daddy didn't come pick them up," Arkadelphia Mayor Charles Hollingshead said.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:44 PM
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1. Idiots. They are supposed to call children's services
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:23 AM
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2. That's what I thought...
but a local church had to help? Come on!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:35 AM
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3. it's the new time of faith-based initiative. thank bushco for seeing to
it that there are no longer a sane voices in government taking care of the innocent. once you're born into bushworld, the culture of life becomes the culture of abuse, neglect, enslavement, and never-ending toil.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 09:22 AM
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6. You forgot the end destination...
"...the culture of life becomes the culture of abuse, neglect, enslavement, and never-ending toil."

And then you get a rifle shoved in your hands and get shipped off to die in some foreign country in the "Freedom's on the MARCH Never-Ending World Tour"

"Don't abort your precious little babies! Murka needs the Cannon Fodder!"
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Caria Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 07:35 AM
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4. "The mayor said what happened to the children was a shame."
It IS shameful, but what a horrific understatement!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 07:41 AM
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5. Motherf#ckers
You can't do much worse to a Latino than tear them from their children.

So, this is the newest front in the War of Terror.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:03 PM
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7. meanwhile, what will happen to Tyson
or whatever poultry corporation hired the illegals to begin with? Probably nothing. I think the corporation should have to pay for the care of the children, and also damages for pain and suffering. After all, we're talking viable human beings here, who truly do have a right to life-a decent life with their parents. Oh, I forgot. The rw is only interested in fetuses and in white people.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:58 PM
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:04 PM
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9. Give me a fucking break...
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 02:09 PM by phusion
"This shows the Hispanics' real family values in that they don't think about their children first, only about breaking our laws to get here."

Besides being a blatantly rascist statement, did you ever think they are here in the first place because they 'think about their children first'?

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:15 PM
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:19 PM
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12. Wow. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:28 PM
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:32 PM
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16. Just curious, but what do you think should be done with all of the...
...descendants of immigrants to this country? You know, the ones that came across the ocean in the early 1600s and began displacing the Native Americans. Using your logic, shouldn't all of them be deported, too?

Just curious, but where did your family lines come from? Let's take a good close look at your ethnic make-up, shall we?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:42 PM
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22. do U think the taxes that were subtracted
from their wages should B returned as they R deported?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:27 PM
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14. They're in this country because they're trying to earn a living and...
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 02:35 PM by Media_Lies_Daily
...feed their families. Additionally, most of the work they do is work that the vast majority of American citizens won't touch anymore.

Instead of spending and losing billions of dollars on an illegal war in the Middle East, why aren't we spending some of that money to help Mexico bring their economy up to standards that will allow their citizens the ability to earn a living in their own country?

Just curious, but where did your family come from originally? You do realize that all but the native North Americans had to come from somewhere, don't you? Following your line of thinking, ALL immigrants from another country and their descendants should be sent back to where they come from, right?
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GraphicQueen Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:35 PM
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19. I am half Apache!!!
They are not doing work that Americans won't or can't do. That is nothing but a lie and myth. Teenagers used to do most of those said menial jobs. then of course apparently you don't seem to understand that illegals have taken over the construction industry and slaughter industry and a few more. These were jobs that Americans did and got paid fairly well for them but now the illegals have driven the wages down to ridiculous salaries.

I totally agree about the ignorant and sham of a war in Iraq. I have always been against it from the very beginning. BTW, it is not up to us to help Mexico do a damn thing. They need to work toward bettering their own country instead of coming here illegally and then demanding that we take care of them. It is not our fault that they also have crooked politicians like us. We can't seem to take care of own backyard when it comes to politics much less trying to work on some other country.

I personally would love to see lots of Europeans being sent back to where they came from but that is a whole different issue.

GQ
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:37 PM
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20. What's your other half? Help us out here...give us some details about....
...how THEY got here and why they came here in the first place.

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:06 PM
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26. It's The Companies That Hire Them And The Exploitation
that they face in their home and here, and the continued dissing of the American workers, that pisses me off.

The powers that be both here and there want it this way, that is why it's this way. If I were in their shoes I would do the same thing.

Soon, we'll ALL be in their shoes.
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missingthebigdog Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 04:01 PM
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31. A lie and a myth????
Really? I disagree.

For a time, I worked for a company that provided services to people with barriers to employment. Those "barriers" were usually mild disabilities, criminal records, alcohol/drug abuse history, or long term welfare use. I worked primarily with people in this last category.

My job was to assess their application and interview skills, provide guidance on improving those, and then help them to find jobs. In most cases, I worked alongside them to train them for the job once they were hired.

Almost without exception, employers preferred to hire people whose first language was english. My clients, therefore, had an advantage over immigrants. When it came down to it, however, most of my people would not do the jobs that immigrants typically end up with. Several people left the program rather than take jobs cleaning hotel rooms or with landscaping companies. Several of my clients left jobs stocking shelves (at almost double the minimum wage) in favor of working part time for minimum wage in a retail store. People, AMERICAN people, just didn't want to work that hard for the money.

And teenagers don't have the time to do the jobs most of these illegals are filling. Fast food jobs are teenager jobs, not factory and hotel work. School is first priority, and factories can't work around study schedules.

I suppose these chicken companies could just move their factories to Mexico, and take the higher paying managerial and administrative positions with them. . . .
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:11 PM
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33. Most hispanics are half Maya, Aztec or Inca n/t
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:34 PM
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18. Incredible.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:17 PM
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11. and how many of these children
are AMERICAN citizens!? the south is now getting a taste of what california has experienced for a loooong time. the fastest way to citizenship is to be BORN here.
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GraphicQueen Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:24 PM
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13. Anchor Children
is all they are and it is completely wrong. Hell, down here where I live part of the year we saw a pregnant woman try to come through the border and they stopped her. She immediately went into some kind of false labor or something and they immediately rushed her ass to an American hospital. She had her child a few days later. Now her child is an American citizen and that is all she wanted in the first place. We are now stuck with caring for this child until he is grown and the taxpayers are the ones who get stuck with the bill. The mother got free healthcare, even though they get free healthcare in Mexico. All she wanted was to have that child in this country. I see it all of the time down here on the border and let me tell you that most of the parents who are here illegally get some form of welfare to take care of the papoose, that also being paid for by the taxpayers.

GQ
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:33 PM
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17. It's terrible when a mother wants the best for her children, isn't it?
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GraphicQueen Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:39 PM
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21. Illegal Lover
is all you seem to be. But I am not surprised at all since so many believe the propaganda lies that the government and politically correct speakers have told you all for so long. It is not just this administration that is and has been corrupt but since forever as far as I am concerned. Just fine me a politician that believes, or even has read, the Constitution. That is a joke in itself. I spend part of my year living on the res and the American Indian is not at all happy with the illegals but then it is our property that gets trampled and misused. You wouldn't understand that at all.

GQ
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:49 PM
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23. Chill out dude!
The children had nothing to do with their parents deeds! The issue here is the lack of compassion and foresight in planning the raid. Sure, deport the illegals, but don't leave their VERY YOUNG children unattended during the process. There are ways to do things, and this article points out ways NOT to do things!
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GraphicQueen Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:55 PM
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24. I totally AGREE with you
that the children should not have been left unattended. But some of the blame of what happened has to be put on the parents for being in this country illegally in the first place. That was all I was trying to say. It is some of the others who decided that I am a cad because I am against illegals and I am against the taxpayer citizens of this country being forced to pay for them and their freebies they get from the government.

GQ
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:11 PM
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27. You assume that this raid wasn't carried out according to plan.
I don't. Afterall, it does make a sad, heart-tugging story to add to the growing volume of sad, heart-tugging stories about the threat of loss of cheap labor...oops, I meant the threat of deportation of illegal immigrants.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:04 PM
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25. Freepers Say: "Arrest The Brats, Problem Solved"
Culture of life, you know...
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:11 PM
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28. We Have To Start PAYING MORE FOR THINGS!!
That's what no politician will say about illegal immigration.

Here in CA, our agricultural, garment, hospitality/hotel and other industries ARE BASED ON CHEAP IMMIGRANT LABOR.

Personally I am willing to pay $3 instead of $1 for a head of lettuce and hire American workers at minimum wage to do it. But EVERYTHING will go up and another thing they subsidize is Social Security. All the people working off fake SS#s put in but don't take out of the system. This is something that is never addressed.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:19 PM
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29. "We would have to pay more for cotton."
You know it was said.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:41 PM
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30. Slave Labor/Wage Slave Labor Is Only Cheap
in the short term. The problems it creates for everyone involved are very expensive for society and become increasingly so as time goes on.

Being able to buy things cheaper is not worth supporting sweat shops here and abroad, morally or financially.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 04:04 PM
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32. Republican family values nt
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