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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:07 AM
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secret religous sect behind anti-gay ads
Edited on Sat Jul-16-05 03:08 AM by HEyHEY
Friday, July 15, 2005
OTTAWA -- A secretive religious sect is behind an aggressive but anonymous direct-mail and advertising campaign against gay marriage that has triggered complaints in Parliament and in the media from MPs and ordinary Canadians from B.C. to Atlantic Canada, The Vancouver Sun has learned.

Some members of the ultra-conservative Exclusive Brethren, who shun relationships with non-members and require their women to wear head scarves in public, organized and funded the campaign, a sect member confirmed Thursday.



http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=d06b2057-831b-4baf-b953-c578c962919c
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:16 AM
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:21 AM
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2. Mmmmmm.....
Require their women to wear head scarves in public.

Where have I heard that before?

:freak:

Religion IS the root of all evil.

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LondonAmerican Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 07:12 AM
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8. Next thing you know
they'll be requiring them to wear burkas.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:26 AM
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3. Uh, oh! These guys are serious!
Edited on Sat Jul-16-05 03:29 AM by Judi Lynn
Just "googled" and found this:
Things Exclusive Brethren can't do
The activities below are forbidden for members of the Taylorite Exclusive Brethren because they are too worldly:

  • watching television
  • listening to the radio
  • visiting places of entertainment
  • reading newspapers
  • reading fiction
  • using computers and the internet (they believe that these are being used by 'the man of sin' referred to in the Book of Revelation)
  • using mobile phones - or any other device that uses radio waves
  • owning pets (these rules have been relaxed and some members are now said to own pets)
  • remarrying after divorce, even if they are the innocent party
  • taking out life assurance
  • going to university (this exposes young Brethren to morally unhelpful influences)
  • standing for political office
  • voting in elections
  • serving in the armed forces


(snip)

Contact with outsiders is limited
Members of the Exclusive Brethren are very limited in their contact with outsiders. Taylorites must not:

  • visit other churches
  • join any other religious organisation
  • join a trade union
  • join a professional organisation (this excludes members from professions such as medicine and pharmacy)
  • join any group that includes people outside the Exclusive Brethren
  • live in the same building, including apartments and semi-detached houses, as outsiders (this means that members can't share a house with a spouse or with children if the spouse or child has been expelled from the Exclusive Brethren)
  • share a driveway with an outsider
  • share private drainage facilities
  • marry outside the Exclusive Brethren

    (snip)


There are several Taylorite innovations that Jim Taylor Jr added to the list of dos and don'ts for members. He instructed them to:

  • marry early
  • have large families
  • be clean shaven (men)
  • keep hair short (men)
  • not to wear ties (men)
  • keep hair uncut (women)
  • wear white or blue scarves (women)
  • start communion services at 6 a.m.

    (snip)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/subdivisions/brethren/


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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:32 AM
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4. start communion services at 6 a.m.
It's 2:30am and I'm still on DU.
Count me out...

:silly:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:32 AM
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5. If the sect members are not allowed to watch TV or read newspapers
How do they know that gay marriage was even being proposed?

The answer is that the leaders of these religious groups are not bound by the rules they impose on their members.

Other than the blue scarves for women, how does this cult differ from the Promise Keepers cult?
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 06:52 AM
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6. The neckties, I guess.
:crazy:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 06:58 AM
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7. also, if they are not to listen to the radio
why are they advertising on it?

:eyes:
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 07:32 AM
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9. Probably something in their outreach mission
forgives those sins. They want to keep them dumb and unlearned to follow their master (sound familiar). I think we've almost reached the tipping point - there are truly more insane sick people in this world than there are sane people.

I woke thinking that this morning. Yesterday in our paper there was a report of a woman (a nurse at AI DuPont Hosp. for kids) who has been injecting her 22-mo old baby with human feces.

It's scary living in such a sick world.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:56 AM
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12. It'll be like Omega Man!
Soon, we'll be the freaks...
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:34 AM
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17. Or how can they justify placing ads in the media
when they are not permitted to listen to or read media material?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:14 AM
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18. Nono, the question is... how does it differ from Wahabbism?
It's a small, developing, North American Taliban. It needs to be crushed out. Mercilessly.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 04:26 PM
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21. There is no difference between Wahabbism and Christianism
Both are extreme versions of the original, and both want to establish a society based on their religious principles, by force if necessary.

That they need to be crushed out mercilessly is without question our biggest challenge in our nation's history, the problem is that as our Muslim friends, we are having a hard time getting the mainstreamers to realize that they are in danger themselves.

It is no accident that most victims of Al-Qaeda are Muslims.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 12:26 PM
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20. Sounds a lot like the Taliban. Keep 'em ignorant and cowed.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 04:38 PM
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22. Well, I can go for the "not wearing ties" part
The rest pretty much sucks.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:54 AM
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10. At least they don't vote or hold office
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:54 AM
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11. Fundamentalist Whack-Jobs... Here's More Info About Them
http://theexclusivebrethren.com/

What's with all the HATE from these Christians? Why are they SNEAKING around in the cover of DARKNESS and mailing it anonymously?
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:03 AM
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13. Karma is a bitch, but sometimes it comes slowly and in its own time
Edited on Sat Jul-16-05 09:03 AM by mtnester
Patience brothers and sisters, judgment is MINE sayeth the Lord. All things come full circle.

These people are doomed, in my opinion, to live a vicious cycle with no enlightenment or peace in either their worldly or spiritual lives, doomed forever to write their own destinies each time they return as a miserably unhappy human being.

So sad.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:05 AM
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14. anaother jim jones cult...dont drink the kool aid at their gatherings n/t
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:07 AM
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15. Why am I not surprised?
Edited on Sat Jul-16-05 09:07 AM by jmm
http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=d06b2057-831b-4baf-b953-c578c962919c&page=2

He said he isn't aware if Exclusive Brethren from outside Canada, such as the Britain-based businessman who contributed $377,262 US for the ads in support of President George W. Bush last year, were funding the Canadian campaign.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:09 AM
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16. The name, "Exclusive Brethren". Exclusive means:
not divided or shared with others; "they have exclusive use of the machine"; "sole rights of publication"

excluding much or all; especially all but a particular group or minority; "exclusive clubs"; "an exclusive restaurants and shops"

Strange name for a group that claims to be "christian".

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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:23 AM
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19. Sounds like a Cult. But because they claim to be "Christian"...
...You can't do anything about them. Kind of like our Utah polygamists.

How much you wanna bet that SOMEDAY Taylor will lift the ban on holding public office?

Sharing DRIVEWAYS? How do they feel about touching the same gas nozzle as an unbeliever? touching money?

"Wieners on a Bun. NO Condiments..."
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