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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:50 PM
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Bush says US is in Iraq because of attacks on US
Sat Jun 18, 1:15 PM ET



WASHINGTON (AFP) - President George W. Bush defended the war in Iraq, telling Americans the United States was forced into war because of the September 11 terror strikes.


Bush also resisted calls for him to set a timetable for the return of thousands of US troops deployed in Iraq, saying Iraqis must be able to defend their own country before US soldiers can be pulled out.

"We went to war because we were attacked, and we are at war today because there are still people out there who want to harm our country and hurt our citizens," Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address.

Bush began a public relations offensive to defend the war as his approval rating has dropped well below 50 percent with Americans expressing skepticism about the invasion.

~snip~
more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usiraqbushattacks ;_

Transcript of radio address:

~snip~
As we work to deliver opportunity at home, we're also keeping you safe from threats from abroad. We went to war because we were attacked, and we are at war today because there are still people out there who want to harm our country and hurt our citizens. Some may disagree with my decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power, but all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror. These foreign terrorists violently oppose the rise of a free and democratic Iraq, because they know that when we replace despair and hatred with liberty and hope, they lose their recruiting grounds for terror.


Our troops are fighting these terrorists in Iraq so you will not have to face them here at home. We mourn every one of these brave men and women who have given his or her life for our liberty. The terrorists know they cannot defeat our troops, so they seek to weaken our nation's resolve. They know there is no room for them in a free and democratic Middle East, so the terrorists and insurgents are trying to get us to retreat. Their goal is to get us to leave before Iraqis have had a chance to show the region what a government that is elected and truly accountable to its citizens can do for its people.

~snip~
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20050618/pl_usnw/text_of_p... ;_
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:52 PM
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1. What a dumbass! Add this to the list of lies for the impeachment hearing.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:54 PM
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3. again * trying to tie 9/11 to Iraq
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 04:59 PM by maddezmom
:eyes:
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:56 PM
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6. Make you want to throw-up
doesn't it?

He's such a jerk. I hope someone, anyone, in the media will call him on this garbage.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:01 PM
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15.  yes it does...Iraq wasn't a central front until the US got there
but all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror.

:puke:
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #15
35. Not true
George W Bush has made Iraq a central front in the 'war on terror'.
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saskatoon Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:37 PM
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45. jerk? but what about the PLAN
Black is white and white is black----------------another 1984 in the offing!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:40 PM
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47. Yes, it does
:puke:
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #6
138. I AM throwing up.
Over two years later and he's still lying about 09-11????

What's really sickening is the millions of fucktards that buy into his crap.

I don't count on the media to call him on squat. They never have. They never will. They're co-conspirators and have blood on their hands too.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:06 PM
Response to Reply #138
152. Well, they said last year Bush was on lithium - we've got a sicko
running the US. with pulling the strings -- got to admit, it's clever, ragardless of what Bush says does - amerika has a puppet government contolled by pnac.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:03 PM
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20. He's even said, himself, there was no tie between Saddam and 9/11
Guess Cheney's been working him over.
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:25 PM
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76. Keeping with the lies
No one expects him to say that most of 9/11 was funded and accomplished from out of Saudi Arabia so we really should have went there right after Afghanistan if not sooner! The * family hasn't even made any move to get their friendships and business out of SA, the monarchy or bin laden family!
He must be concerned that a few of his followers need new lies for their reasons to remain in denial!
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:54 AM
Response to Reply #76
125. What you say is logical
However there is no logic to the GWOT because the whole thing is a set-up.

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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:16 PM
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155. Yup, he can deny, saying we were attacked by al Queda
from Afghanistan and try to link Iraq with that AGAIN in the public mind. I think his gig is up, though; I think any thinking repub is realizing what a complete incompetent this man and his entourage are. Condi Rice saying Iraq is a "generational commitment" today - yeah, that will help your poll numbers!! She is really a twit too - good partner for GW, for that reason, though.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:52 PM
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2. iraq, iran, afganistan.......
syria too, huh?
is he f'ing kidding?
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #2
16. Venezuela and Cuba too. nt
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:55 PM
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4. his spin doctor is Rove, bring him in to the impeachment hearings too.
He mixes the koolaid!
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:55 PM
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5. If he said, "we are there for the oil". I would believe him
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 04:57 PM by mrdmk
On the other hand, we are probably there to fill Mr. Bush Jr.'s ego. The rest of his administration is there for the oil.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:51 AM
Response to Reply #5
116. It's time for another reporter to ask him about Saddam & 9/11 link
that's the one thing Kerry did right in the debates, was get Bush to admit there isn't a link.

Hillbilly Hitler art:



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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:57 PM
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7. I'm sorry, but he's not half as stupid as those who...
...continue to believe him.

If this were my president, if I had campaigned and voted for him and was driving around with a pro-repuke bumper sticker on my pickup, I'd have to, by now, admit my mistake.

We appear to be surrounded by dangerous, stupid, evil people.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #7
19. Who largely won't enlist
in the Iraq war themselves.

I guess they want to be on hand "to fight them over here" once the Iraq front falls. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #7
29. He knows he's lost the thinking part of the electorate
He's just trying to shore up his popularity in the dumbass category. 30% of the voters, perhaps?

I wonder if Republican candidates lie awake thinking "how can I disassociate myself from this idiot?" Or do they just think "if that jerk can fool half of the electorate, surely I can too?"
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #29
61. They don't think about the electorate anymore
they have Diebold and the MSM.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #7
48. I Don't Think They're All Evil
Most are just plain stupid, the evil ones are the Religious fanatics.

The stupid ones we can educate, the truly evil and dangerous, are those that follow Falwell, Dobson, Robertson, and the rest of that
vomitous crew.

Those people can't be educated, there is only one way to deal with them. I won't say it here, so use your imaginations.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:58 PM
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8. !!



Photo from indybay
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tecelote Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:58 PM
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9. If only...
we could catch him in an affair!

Maybe we could impeach him on those moral grounds since murder, rape and pillage do not seem enough.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #9
52. Not a chance.
Who on earth would want to do him? :puke:
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:17 AM
Response to Reply #9
128. With Jeff Gannon!! nt
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #128
154. who do you think Gannon/Guckert was servicing at the White House?
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #154
160. Bush nt
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:14 AM
Response to Reply #9
159. He would have to be
caught on video f#@king his male scottie and even then?!
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:58 PM
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10. For crying out loud, are they trotting that horse out again?
Granted, repeating the propaganda over and over is SOP for these people ... but it's a lame and foolish response to the DSM (and all other available evidence). I don't think repeating "September 11" over and over is going to work the magic he expects it to.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #10
24. Yes, he is going to milk that horse for all it's worth.
:evilgrin:
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #24
63. When will he realize that he's beating a DEAD horse?
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #24
74. Good one /nt
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #24
77. LOL
:thumbsup:
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #10
26. It's all they have
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #10
82. Yeah, talk about 'old news' that was a lie in the first place.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
98. Agreed. It may even bring his numbers down. Folks don't like liars.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:59 PM
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11. If I used Bush's logic
if I got a bad tomato from the farmer's market, I'd go to the grocery store and demand a refund.

Bush makes as much sense as William McKinley did when he said the reason we invaded the Phillipines during the Spanish American War was so we could "Christianize" the population. (Didn't matter that many Filipinos were Christian and had been for about 400 years).
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:56 PM
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55. A parallel with Spanish American war?
Interesting that you brought up the old 1898 Spanish America war in this thread. 1898 and 2001, yes, I'd say there's a lot of comparisons to be made between the Maine disaster (which ushered in the Spanish-American War) and the WTC/Pentagon attacks (which ushered in the US wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Beside the obvious, that a major war by the US was based upon attacks against US military targets -- Sept. 11, 2001, the Pentagon. In Feb. 15, 1898, the USS Maine was destroyed. Whether by sabotage or accident, the flagship of the US naval fleet and its sinking was a tremendous loss for Washington at the time. (In the case of the USS Maine, I assume sabotage. Probably by insiders in the US, a deliberate conspiracy by parties unknown. Likewise, the 9-11 conspiracy. Who benefited?)

What was the Pentagon doing while 3 highjacked planes were circling the White House and and violating our national securitys for over one hour, with no response from tactical air defenses? Just look what happened in the case of Payne Stewant's plane when it ran off-course. Why was there no response in 9-11 and why isn't anyone being questioned about this?

Perhaps because 9-11 was also planned to be a bait for a new war. A new aggression under Pres. Bush, via Afghanistan and Iraq, to signal a new era of imperial policy. Perhaps there is a Bush Doctrine in place now, maybe we'll see the rebirth of some imagined destiny for US ruling classes.

Along with the birth of imperialism, in 1898 and at the turn of the century, yellow journalism was borne. It is a form of the preying on human emotions, often events being exaggerated for some effect, to the point it would be little more than wild rumor and imagination's fancy. It was the Hearst newspaper which turned the Maine disaster into a war, by printing on its pages a "diagram" of a possible Spanish mine which was responsible for the explosion. The repeated stories of war atrocities in Cuba benefitted the war planners. They purposely made mistranslations of Spanish statements to the press.

Since 2001 and the beginning of the wars in 2003, journalism hasn't turned so much yellow as it has olive-drab and camoflaugue green. Reporters are "embedded" into military units, beholden to the the general's commands. It benefits the war planners. The atrocities by the Iraqis are given constant attention, but little is said of US involvement in similar situations.

We know in 2003 that there were clearly two different wars being reported from, say the Russian military sources at the time, as compared to official US military dispatches. We really don't know what is happening in Iraq.

The problem is that events can purposely be distorted, like yellow journalism, and we have no way of comparing the accuracy of events, whether they are in fact probable or improbable based on previous experience.

In 1898, I suppose there wasn't enough enough time to build an anti-war movement in the US in 1898, notwithstanding Mark Twain and other notable personalities of the day. The Spanish-American War lasted 3 months at most and then it was all over. By comparison, in 2003, the brunt of the war in Iraq lasted less than a month. Despite the wide opposition by artists, musicians, writers and ordinary people across America. But as long as these wars drag on, the anti-war movement in the US will tend to get bigger and bigger.


The corporate mass-media have become highly centralized and monolithic today, maybe it isn't sensational as it was with Hearst in 1898, but it certainly is strange to read in the news that depleted uranium is not a health hazard, according to the statements from a general in the Pentagon. Aside from the fact that it will be 'hot' for a few million or billion years, I assume they meant it was not an immediate health hazard. Not like falling off a 100-story building, or walking on railroad tracks toward a speeding train. The general's statement wasn't so much a mockery of medical science as it was a bold-faced lie to the public at large.

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peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #55
92. Thanks for your view..however, to send the jets after the hijacked planes
was an all out theater movement. There were so many planes in the air at that time in the same situation, without a true determination as to the whereabouts. Mobilization on the ground did begin, but the scramble for a direct target required orchestration. I read the 9/11 Commission Report and the "Against All Enemies" Richard Clarke's play by play interpretation. (anti terrorism czar). Lots of action took place, just a little too late held up by the bureaucracy. The only one who could have given the ultimate order to destroy a passenger jet was sitting in a 3rd grade classroom.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #92
106. None of that explains why the official story now says that more than a
full hour after the second plane hit the WTC and more than 30 minutes after Flight 93 was widely known to be a confirmed hijacking -- no fighter jet had even been ORDERED to intercept it.

Sorry, but that simply can't be explained away by bureaucratic inefficiency. If it wasn't LIHOP or MIHOP, then who the fuck is accountable for the fact that the damn passengers on the plane somehow managed figure out what was happening, plan an attack together and successfully bring the plane down long before our 500 billion dollar a year national defense could even manage to GIVE THE ORDER TO INTERCEPT?


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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #92
110. But a look see by a scrambled jet is SOP on any off course plane.
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 11:25 PM by John Q. Citizen
I can't remember any planes being shot down over US air space in my life time, but scrambling a jet for a look see is so common. About 100 or more a year were sent for a look see in the 10 years before 9/11.

That 4 planes were off course and not responding to air traffic control and none were "look see'd" is beyond the realm of believability.

They were almost certainly ordered to "step down" or SOP would have been followed.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:24 AM
Response to Reply #92
124. Haha
Didnt you know that on that same day there an air defence exercise on and radar operaters was ask to ignore funny blips on screen.

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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:59 PM
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12. The SOB needs a straight jacket
Still pounding away that we were attacked by Iraq. "terrorists have made Iraq a central point in the war on terror" he says. I say Bush has made Iraq into a bloody wreck of a country, and by doing so have sown the seeds of hatred for this country. As you sow so, so will you reap. Something should be done NOW about this maniac in the WH.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:00 PM
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13. Behold the Power and Glory of Circular Thinking
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:10 PM
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25. one day bush may get his head so far up his own ass he'll disappear
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:27 PM
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37. Now that's a trick I'd like to see.....
Then again I'd rather him on trial for war crime at the Hague.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #37
57. Yes let's send them all to the Hague, 0007
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #57
69. One of my old Bob Dylan's favorites
Thank you, thank you seemslikeadream
:hi:
Great photo
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:00 PM
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14. Bush's foreign policy is faith-based
Religious myths are a poor substitute for science, reason, and facts.

Bush's Gawd told Bush that Iraq was involved in 9/11. Who cares about facts when we have our American Messiah to tell us what to believe, and how to act.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. "US scrambling to establish a link between Iraq and al (Qaida) ..."--from
this article on DSM's. unconvincing then and now.

British documents portray determined U.S. march to war

By Warren P. Strobel, Knight Ridder Newspapers

Fri Jun 17, 5:52 PM ET


http://news.yahoo.com/s/krwashbureau/20050617/ts_krwash ... ;_ylt=AhrQpUzAU2CG_lfZ9_yk_LlqP0AC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

> ......In that sense, the British memos seem almost prophetic.
>
> "Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy," Sir Richard Dearlove, head of Britain's MI-6 spy service, told Blair and his top advisers after talks in Washington, according to the first memo to be leaked. It was dated July 23, 2002.
>
> "US scrambling to establish a link between Iraq and al (Qaida) is so far frankly unconvincing," Ricketts reported earlier in his March 2002 letter to Straw.
>
> In his own letter to Blair three days later, Straw also seemed to question the scale of the threat. "In the documents so far presented, it has been hard to glean whether the threat from Iraq is so significantly different from that of Iran and North Korea as to justify military action," he wrote.........
>
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:03 PM
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17. fuck him! The "mission" is easy for him....
you really can't make this shit up. Any person left on the face of this earth that believes this dreck needs their head examined.

:puke:


~snip~

This mission isn't easy, and it will not be accomplished overnight. We're fighting a ruthless enemy that relishes the killing of innocent men, women, and children," he said.

"By making their stand in Iraq, the terrorists have made Iraq a vital test for the future security of our country and the free world. We will settle for nothing less than victory."



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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #17
38. Quote from the insurgent leader:
"This mission isn't easy, and it will not be accomplished overnight. We're fighting a ruthless enemy that relishes the killing of innocent men, women, and children," he said."

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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:03 PM
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18. unbelievable


n/t
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:05 PM
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22. They've all made their own bed.....
and they will lie in it for the rest of their lives. From his gulag cell he'll be repeating the same mantra.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:06 PM
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23. This just makes me ill.
:banghead:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:14 PM
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27. Is he the only asshole that still believes that??
Because even the stupidest Bush loyalists know that's bunk. There is NO correlation between 9/11 and Iraq. What a dipshit.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:15 PM
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28. I wonder if he wandering the
halls of the whitehouse, talking to the portraits.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:04 AM
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121. Nah, he's walking the halls of the White House
talking to his God. (I just can't believe it is the Christian God. Not the one I remember from Sunday school.) Or he's walking the halls listening to the voices in his head.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:21 PM
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30. "my decision to remove Saddam Hussein" says a lot about this pathos.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:21 PM
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31. Gawd. Dragging that trick out of the bag again
they are getting desperate
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:22 PM
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32. And he gets away with this........still?
:puke:

DemEx
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:22 PM
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33. In September 2003, Bush said ...
"We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September the 11th."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/18/iraq/main5842...

(Video link is on the page)


Randi Rhodes plays the audio clip of him saying that almost every day!
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dameocrat Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:22 PM
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34. Iraq had nothing to do with Al Qaeda
Why didn't we invade Mexico, you dipwad? There weren't any terrorist there till we invaded. Also it strains credibility to call all the disaffected Sunnies who have no representation in the socalled democracy you created there terrorists.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:26 PM
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36. Bush let the Saudis attack us so he COULD go to Iraq.
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 05:29 PM by Gregorian
But since his propaganda cheerleaders only spew his bullshit, Americans don't know the truth.


I should add that even if you do get to the point where you are actually moving their oil, Mr. Bush, we are going to have new technology that will make all of your illegal efforts fruitless. Blow it out your ass, buddy. Nanotechnologies are here. Solar is on it's way.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:51 PM
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81. Yep, summed it up in a sentence, n/t.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:29 PM
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39. he's right about one thing
"the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror"


BECAUSE OF HIM!!!

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:31 PM
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40. I can't wait to see the next round of poll numbers.
I will they'd poll: "Do you think George W. Bush has serious mental problems?"

71% Yes
20% No
9% Unsure
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:49 AM
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119. LOL, so true!
That would be great they poll like that... You know, MSM don't have a guts to do that sort of thing.
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:32 PM
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41. Same old BS
Every time someone challenges AWOL on Iraq, he brings out the old 9/11 defense. Eventually, people are going to wise up and stop believing this BS. That time is now upon us -- we need to ratchet up the heat on the DSM's.
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confuddled Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:11 PM
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62. When does 'eventually' start?
I have this very bad feeling that DSM's will quickly fade and be replaced by this type of resurrected obfuscation. Dementia tends to erode short term memory first. Snippets of long term memory are more readily recalled and sometimes, especially with alcohol induced dementia, pasted together with something called confabulation - what you can't remember, you make up.
I don't mean to suggest that anybody in this country is demented, but - oh, never mind.
Then there is the Orwellian memory hole. Nah.
How 'bout Goebbels' oft quoted approach? I don't suppose anyone would be silly enough to try that on this savvy population - especially given the historical precedent. But then we don't deal with the past,do we?
I do wish I had more faith in the ability of a large portion of this population to see through this crap.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:33 PM
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42. *rubs face in disbelief*
How can anyone defend, admire, or trust this boob?
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:34 PM
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43. Hey, pseudoprez,
YOU REALLY ARE THAT FUCKING STUPID

:crazy: :crazy:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:37 PM
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44. (bangs head violently against the wall....)
AARRGGHHH!!!! :banghead:
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brindis_desala Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:39 PM
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46. Bush: "Will will not retreat until we have drained this treasury dry...
This invasion/occupation has produced a level of war-profiteering unmatched in modern history run by a government of racketeering gangsters. If BushCo can't do simple accounting how on earth can it rebuild a nation? This "War on Terra" is a giant hornswoggle!

New Halliburton Whistleblowers Say Millions Wasted in Iraq
by Pratap Chatterjee, Special to CorpWatch
June 16th, 2004
>snip>
"In testimony submitted to members of Congress, one truck driver explained in detail how taxpayers were billed for empty trucks driven up and down Iraq and how $85,000 vehicles were abandoned for lack of spare tires. A labor foreman said dozens of workers were told to "look busy" while doing virtually no work for salaries of $80,000 a year. An auditor related how the company was spending an average of $100 for every single bag of laundry and $10,000 a month for company employees to stay in five-star hotels.
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11373

Follow the Money
By Michael Hirsh
Newsweek
Monday 04 April 2005 Issue

"Watchdogs are warning that corruption in Iraq is out of control. But will the United States join efforts to clamp down on it?
Yet when the two whistle-blowers sued Custer Battles on behalf of the U.S. government-under a U.S. law intended to punish war profiteering and fraud-the Bush administration declined to take part.
<snip>

"The government has not lifted a finger to get back the $50 million Custer Battles defrauded it of," says Alan Grayson, a lawyer for the two whistle-blowers, Pete Baldwin and Robert Isakson.
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/37...

Associated Press
Audit: $9 Billion Unaccounted for in Iraq
01.30.2005,

"The U.S. occupation authority in Iraq was unable to keep track of nearly $9 billion it transferred to government ministries, which lacked financial controls, security, communications and adequate staff, an inspector general has found.

http://www.forbes.com/business/manufacturing/feeds/ap/2...
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:59 PM
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86. Thanks for the link to the corp watch article and to Waxman
for releasing the statments made by employees. Hope everyone will take the time to read the article.


"Davis refused to allow testimony from five former Halliburton employees who had additional evidence of waste, fraud, and abuse. Instead, Henry Waxman, the highest-ranked Democrat on the committee, released their statements to the public."



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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:46 PM
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49. As far as Al Queda goes, Saddam was a friend to the U.S.
Strange but true - Al Queda had no purchase on Iraq as long as Saddam was in power. Any presence in Iraq that Al Queda might have is directly due to Bush's invasion. Just one of the many ways in which Bush's war was not only illegal, but stupid.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:48 PM
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50. We're creating enemies faster than we can kill them
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 05:48 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
It was on a bumpersticker I saw the other day
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:32 PM
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149. A attacks B, B does not attack A, B attacks C. (oh, I get it)
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:48 PM
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51. I think he's seriously suffering from short term memory loss...
He thinks this is 2002, not 2005 - then he lied to us, now we know the truth!!!

What is he thinking??? Yeah, I know - he doesn't think.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:50 PM
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53. They are almost out of gas propagandawise, watch out for a "diversion"
With his support for his Iraq disaster plummeting he still thinks he drag that same old crap back out of the bottom of the trash can where it sits beneath the rotten fish and snot rags unfold it and read it to us again. Sheesh, they are losing it.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:50 PM
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54. Even when the truth is known, Herr Busch just can't stop lying.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:56 PM
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56. Concentrate on that one argument
MAKING a front line to attract terrorists. However, CREATING terrorists for an endlessly inefficient occupation makes American soldiers a shooting gallery to appease the wrath, to deflect fear onto our "brave" sacrifices.

This should be countered directly and strongly. It is repellent and arguably another stupid post facto excuse for looting Iraq. it is the Rovian tactic trying to turn a disaster into a good by the most outrageous means.

However it falls apart in that the Al Qaeda we were trying to target is doing very nicely in all other regions while burgeoning and recruiting for the shooting gallery we supply with our depleted army- as they LEARN to kill our best defense and never get defeated.

Only in America you get away with whoppers like this one. Even dictators must even the opulence of nerve in making s*** like this up.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:54 PM
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83. Yep, it's like setting fire to a house
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 07:55 PM by CJCRANE
and then going in to rescue some of the victims.

on edit: ...and pretending you weren't the cause of the fire.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:58 PM
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58. Please... tell me SOME media SOMEWHERE jumped on his ass for that?!?
I mean... come on... the 9/11 Commission Report, countless quotes, data, info....

even quotes from him... didn't he actually say in the debate(s).. "I know Iraq wasn't connected to Al Queda" or something like that? like... "I know Iraq didn't attack us." Cuz he was being hounded by the media and he got testy...

So is SOMEBODY gonna be MY HERO/HEROINE and CALL HIM ON THIS????!!!!

This is soooo NOT a reason for the war. If he is attempting to counter the DSM, he just dug himself in waaaaaaaay deeper.

Hmmmm.
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cambie Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:02 PM
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59. One of the supermarket tabloids

a while back had a story about a ventriloquist that died, but the dummy kept talking. They had their story all written right up until the mission accomplished part. At least the tabloids give us a laugh.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:06 PM
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60. I'm gonna have to get me one of those I-pods.
Because this sonuvabitch is a one-song jukebox and it's gettin' old, mighty old.

KKKarl! Flip the record! Let's hear that B side!
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:29 PM
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64. LIAR!!!
If that were the case, WTF aren't we in Saudi Arabia. Without SA, the 9/11 attack could've never been executed. Bush, you are a dumbass!




IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11!
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:38 PM
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65. "We mourn every one of these brave men and women....."
"We mourn every one of these brave men and women who have given his or her life for our liberty."

Thats why you won`t go to funerals or even meet with the familys?

scum OFF TO LEVINWORTH
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:47 PM
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99. If he's really mourning
all the deaths and injuries, that infamous ugly, arrogant smirk will never appear on his face again. If we see it, we'll know he was lying, as usual.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:44 PM
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66. Do American's still eat up that line? I don't think so
I sure hope not.

I think a lot of this administration's old brain washing techniques are finally running thin.

david
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:45 PM
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67. Hm my front page Sunday paper says it was grudge betwn him and Saddam
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8270144 /

In one of the memos, British Foreign Office political director Peter Ricketts openly asks whether the Bush administration had a clear and compelling military reason for war.

U.S. scrambling to establish a link between Iraq and al-Qaida is so far frankly unconvincing, Ricketts says in the memo. For Iraq, regime change does not stack up. It sounds like a grudge between Bush and Saddam


But oh well.

Osama bin forgotten changed nothing.
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:50 PM
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68. Wait a sec!! I thought we were in Iraq because of
an iminent threat from chemical and biological weapons! Oh, wait. Didn't Bush say we were in Iraq to spread democracy? Oh, wait. Now it is because we were attacked on 9/11. Oh, wait. How many times has the rationale for this war shifted? Three, maybe four times?

P.S.
No biological, chemical, or nuclear materials were ever found. No programs, uncovered. The U.S. military actually managed to leave unguarded, and 'lose' many tons of conventional explosives at a place called Al Quaqua. How many tons of explosives was it?

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:02 PM
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70. If I remember correctly, and perhaps dumbass cannot, Iraq had
U.N. weapons inspectors all over their country... and WE FORCED THEM OUT. They were cutting up Al Samoud missiles that flew 15 miles too far. They had been bombed by this country for over 10 years and never hit back. They had a western style secular govt. They had more PHD's than the U.S., museums, science, industry, socialized medicine etc.

Yes, they were a threat for sitting on all that oil that France and Russia had the majority of contracts to manage..... I hope the dipshit knows how many people know how full of crap he really is.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:07 PM
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71. Our troops are fighting these terrorists in Iraq so you will not have to
fight them here at home.
Lookout Laredo, The Sunni's are coming!
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:09 PM
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72. MUTHER FUCKIN' LIER...Hell awaits you...you criminal sociopath.
9/11 HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IRAQ INVASION, but then again I'm preaching to the choir around here. I guess I need to project this over a bullhorn at any and all tractor pulls, professional wrestling matches, American Idol, and other DUMBASS venues to get the message out.

JB
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:10 PM
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73. WTF?!
There wasn't vene a single Iraqi terrorist on any of the four flighta! WTF?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:41 AM
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114. By George there aren't even any Iraqi Terrorists in Irak
It's all them outside agitaters from Cereal and Eyeran whots cauzin all the trouble. We'll gitRdun for you George, don't you worry nun. :crazy:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:57 PM
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151. Thank god we can't type
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:23 PM
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75. Never mind Jeb, is GWB insane?!
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 07:31 PM by indie_voter
Who let him say this again?

Hasn't this all been discredited OVER AND OVER AND OVER again?

The 9/11 Commission Report?

Haven't GWB and Cheney ADMITTED there were no links?

WHAT IS GOING ON?!!

Did he get hold of an old speech by accident?

Why is this happening? If ANYBODY (including the pundits) takes this seriously I am going to curl up in a fetal position and cry.

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dethl Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:32 PM
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78. Dead horse, meet stick...again.
n/t
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:37 PM
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79. The scary thing is
I think he really believes the rhetoric.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:21 AM
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135. more frightening is some repubs still do, too!
:scared: Welcome to DU. :hi:
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:41 PM
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80. "Bush says US is in Iraq because of attacks on US"
What LOINS did this F'ing MORON come from?
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Starfury Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:55 PM
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84. Earth to Shrub: Lying to the public probably won't help your ratings...n/t
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trapper914 Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:58 PM
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85. Huge consolations
"...but all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror. "

I'm sure the 100,000 Iraqis who have died appreciate the "flypaper" principle. Who is he to bring terrorism to the people of Iraq?
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:06 PM
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89. credibility
Wasn't there a very recent MSNBC online poll where 94% believed Bush lied about Iraq?

I would say the sheeple are beginning to understand quite clearly their Prez LIED TO THE WORLD.

Yup, history, which he doesn't give a rat's ass about, will judge him as the worst President ever. He continues to wreck every single enterprise he's been gifted to "run".

God help us all.

-85%
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:48 AM
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123. The same thing has bothered me from Day One
"Our troops are fighting these terrorists in Iraq so you will not have to face them here at home."

There are so many flaws in this logic -- the foremost being the TOTAL lack of compassion for the Iraqi people -- that only a Bushbot could applaud it.

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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:02 PM
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87. Would someone please shoot him up with sodium pentathol
before the next radio address?!!!
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:04 PM
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88. If Bush told the truth,
his head would blow up on national TV, just like the dude in the movie Scanners.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:08 PM
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90. It makes me want to puke
That man has no shame whatsoever.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:12 PM
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91. Huh? How the heck did I miss Iraq attacking us? Last I knew...
it was the Bin Laden's bunch and we were going after him in Afganistan... funny I don't remember hearing that we got him... are we even still playing Where's Bin Laden or is it all a show while he's living in comfort in Saudi Arabia? :sarcasm:

The only other massive attack on this country in the last decade or two that I know for sure of is the one against American's civil liberties, peace, prosperity, the poor, etc that the Neo-Con's and Fundamentalist pseudo-christians have been carrying on. :grr:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:32 PM
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93. Who has THE COMPLETE LIST of LIES with Quotes & Dates ?
...and in ascending order?

Would like to have it so I can email it to my representatives, senators, the WH and anyone else I can think of, such as Franken, Kennedy, Conyers, etc.

Also, prior to Sept. 11 2001, I remember learning from somewhere that BushCo had planned to begin the drumbeat regarding Iraq starting in Oct., 2001, but had to recalculate the politics and timing of escalating that plan since the GOAT BOY and Crew were taken by surprise on 9/11/01...or were they?

Right after Bush took office, (took as in stole), I remember also seeing news footage of Blair visiting him at Camp David. At the time, I was wondering what the hell was up with that. Was this the beginning of the plan to "fix" the facts to fit policy? Or, was this the "Yahoo! Now we can move forward with the ol' Iraq plan!"?

Anyway, whoever has the total list of lies with dates, would sure appreciate having it.

Thanks in advance!

:kick: Whoa_Nelly :kick:
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:28 PM
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103. May not be exactly what you're looking but ,
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:38 PM
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105. Thanks, Geo55!
:hi:
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:17 PM
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164. that is an awesome link..
thanks..
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:33 PM
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94. Polish Foreign Minister: "We're there for the oil."
A straight talker. (quote adapted slightly)
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bushcrab Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:36 PM
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95. Lie Detectors fear bush
I am certain that he would peg them all out until they smokin' quit. God, please help us.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:06 PM
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100. Welcome to DU, bushcrab!
:hi:
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:46 PM
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96. Sounds like somebody is in his desperate "final throes"
or should I say throws, throwing any BS he thinks will stick.
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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:06 PM
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153. Well you know
one thing chimps do best is throw feces :evilgrin:

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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:37 PM
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97. He will say anything to save his failed presidency
Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11.

Liar.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:10 PM
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101. Still trying to suck 9/11 dry for all it's worth.
What a bastard. It doesn't get any more evil.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:15 PM
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102. Sadaam/ 9-11; 9-11/Sadaam; Sadaam/9-11; 9-11/Sadaam
So is it Iraqi Freedom or Preemptive Attacks against a non-gathering threat.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:29 PM
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104. I'm so glad we have his statement in black & white!!! for the
Impeachment Proceedings!!!
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:04 PM
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107. The Naked Boy King Who Cried 911.
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 11:08 PM by stickdog
We're not fighting enemies in Iraq. We're making enemies.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:12 PM
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108. BUSH made Iraq the central front in the war on terror...
"but all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror"

Excuse me idiot...YOU made Iraq the central front in the war on terror. This man is a total buffoon.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:13 PM
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109. HAHAHA
:rofl: :rofl:

With a president like bush, US don't need an enemy, he is doing great, hahaha :rofl: :rofl:

Sorry all, but I cant help it. Got to give him credit. He is doing what no one in the world can do. Bring USA to its kneel
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:50 PM
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111. What....the....hell....
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 11:51 PM by Pystoff
is...this....SHIT? You have gotta be kidding me here I can't believe he is using this old standby. This is like oldies radio or something HAHAHAHA. Man if he wanted to shore up his position he is making one huge as hell mistake with this golden oldie here. This line is election time bullshit and doesn't fly with anyone but the most hardcore fools that voted for him (30-35% of the electorate unfortunately). He tries to spin this line for more than a few days the rest of the public will dump on him so fast....hold it nevermind GO BUSH!!! whooo hoo spin that lie till the roof caves in LOL.

:rofl: :yourock: :headbang: :patriot: :applause: :woohoo:
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:54 PM
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112. He really needs to have a psychological evaluation.
He has no perception of reality.
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:19 AM
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113. a box of rocks would make more sense than this man
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:49 AM
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115. Chimp proves he is the most cynical good old boy on the planet
In the face of all the killing and misery he still takes the time out to sling some left field shit to the stupid public just for laughs. This totally insincere shitty "justification" by the guy shows once more that he get a sadistic kick out of taking off the top of he ugly head. We need to legally try, convict , sentence and hang the dirty rotten son of a bitch.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:33 AM
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117. Can you imagine the legacy of this man?
The Yale cheerleader who never defended our country and never worked a day in his life? The new ruling elite.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:04 AM
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126. Rubble and ruin, debt and desolation
the same things that followed in the wake of all his previous half-assed attempts at controlling any enterprise, free or otherwise, magnified ten thousand thousandfold when applied to the entire USA. Everything his influence touches withers on the vine, turns to black dust, and blows away in a dry nuclear wind. A defiler, a pretender, a parasitic usurper, an unrepentant pathological liar, a murderous inflatable clown, and, in his own words, "basically a media creation."

Historians will regard him as the first post-1972 president to make Richard Nixon look saintly and wholesome by comparison.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:47 AM
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118. Face them in Iraq instead of here at home, what a...
bunch of bullcrap. He repeats the same lie over and over again, wonder how many still believe him? :puke:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:50 AM
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120. Earth to * - IRAQ/SADDAM HAD NOTHING TO DO W/ 9/11! So shut the eff up!
GAWD! I can't believe that ass actually keeps stating this when its already been stated so many times by various sources....

Guess they believe if they say it enough, the idiots in the country will still believe it...
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:09 AM
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122. OMG... How stupid can this man be. Is he really brain dead?
There really is something awful wrong with GEORGE, I really think he is mentally ill. Can anyone see this? Anyone in their right mind would know better. He is definitely a pathological liar... these people will lie and lie and they believe their own lies.

It's a hard work to be a liar!
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tea4me Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:12 AM
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127. Don't forget the dumb-ass
just repeats whatever they whisper into his earplugs. :dem:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:43 AM
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129. If a war was based on the nationality of the people who attacked us
on 9/11, we would have bombed Saudi Arabia. I wish the sheeples would get their heads out of their asses and let Bush know the game is up.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:48 AM
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130. "a government that is elected and truly accountable to its citizens"
ROTFLMAO

That Georgie boy is in the wrong business -- he should be a comedian!

Coming from a president who was appointed by the Supreme Court and whose administration has been held accountable for nothing, that line is just too damn funny!

Who writes his material?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 09:32 AM
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131. Is this the dog and pony show he's gonna take on the road
now that he needs to put his SS lies aside to catapult some war propaganda?

D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-E
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:32 AM
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132. Again with this?
President George W. Bush defended the war in Iraq, telling Americans the United States was forced into war because of the September 11 terror strikes.

George, repeat after me: "We attacked Afghanistan because of 9-11. Iraq had nothing to do with the 9-11 attacks."

:banghead:
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:40 AM
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133. I was listening to KGO last night...
... and the normally slightly left of center (weekend late-nite) host John Rothman was absolutely tearing into Bush about this statement... for about 4 hours non-stop. It was good to hear :)

To summarize, he pretty much said that this recent Bush statement was the worst (least honest) he's ever heard from any US president.

-P

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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:10 AM
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158. Since he say because of Iraq
So is war on Afghan also illegal hahaha
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:43 AM
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134. Delusional lying bastard!
:grr: Fighting terra-ists he imported to Iraq, is what the murderous POS should have said. I fucking hate him!
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:29 AM
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136. "Fool me once shame on.. shame on you... eh.. um.. a fooled man can't get
get fooled again." - GWB
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:36 AM
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137. New analysis says Bush's reasoning is all BS
What Motivates Suicide Bombers

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050617/news_l...

First, he did not find the bombers to be fanatical or essentially unusual people "Suicide terrorists' political aims, if not their methods, are often more mainstream than observers realize," he wrote in his recent book, "Dying to Win." "They generally reflect quite common, straightforward nationalist self-determination claims of their community."

Second, contrary to the beliefs of this administration, religion plays a very small role in their motivations. "Rather," Pape pointed out to me when we met recently at the University of Chicago, "what nearly all suicide terrorist attacks have in common is a specific secular and strategic goal: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from territory that the terrorists consider to be their homeland. Religion is rarely the root cause."

Third, the president's beloved idea that "regime change" and "democratization" will decrease suicide bombings and other related violence is flawed. In fact, Pape says: "An attempt to transform Muslim societies through regime change is likely to dramatically increase the threat we face. The root cause of suicide terrorism is foreign occupation and the threat that foreign military presence poses to the local community's way of life.
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:16 PM
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139.  'people out there who want to harm our country and hurt our citizens'
unfortunately they are in the WH.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:24 PM
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140. "FORCED"????
FORCED??? :wtf: Fuck you, you fucking fucked-up chimp-faced fuckhead.
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:00 PM
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141. "the terrorists and insurgents"
So he's admitting they're not the same? He's admitting we're involved in a guerilla war instead of just fighting "terra."
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:10 PM
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142. We are in Iraq DESPITE attacks on US
what a fucking weasel
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benet_gesserit Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:41 PM
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143. Bush is Shrubbish!
Dear Everybody,

Downing Street's Memo demonstrates what we already knew. Bush is a liar and he lied to help his friends capture and TAKE the assets of the Iraqui people. If you are tired of having the world BELIEVE that we voted this clown in, please work on election reform. To find out why election reform before 2006 is so important, check out the notice below.

I reported to many Texas Democrats right after the elections that the votes appeared to have been rigged in Texas. Among the things reported to me was the fact that the electronic machines were DEFAULTED TO BUSH/CHENEY and kept switching votes to that choice, no matter how many times it was switched back to Kerry.

Please check notice below.

Gina de Miranda


=================================================


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Public is invited; volunteers needed; donations welcome!
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:05 PM
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161. Take your Bev Harris propoganda elsewhere
Bev Harris has ZERO creditbility here as she is a liar, a Freeper and a truly VILE person.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:04 PM
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144. Liar.(bush) tired os "swatting FLIES"
made clear to me that he did not want to respond to al-Qaida one attack at a time. He told me he was 'tired of swatting flies'," she added in a rejection of claims made last month by Clarke.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/features/jan-june04/r...
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:09 PM
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145. I see that sorry sack of shit is still lying
after all these years. Some things never change.
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manly Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:14 PM
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146.  We went to war because we were attacked
" We went to war because we were attacked..."
So says George the Idiot. Simple response is Where and When?
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:18 PM
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147. Oh, horse pucky
how can he continue to lie and get away with it?
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:23 PM
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148. So we go back to the same old incorrect answer we know to be a lie
When will this guy figure out that we caught him with his hand in the cookie jar ?? Oh my God !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:kick:
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Neverarepublican Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:35 PM
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150. ASSHOLE!
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:50 PM
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156. This is their "Bright Shinning Lie"
I doubt in their time they will be held to account. But history will judge them most harshly.

In the mean time we are F&%*@d.

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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:58 PM
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157. Is this what Bush meant when he said something about...
"catapulting the propaganda"?

Every single mumbled word spewed out of his mouth is refuted by a mountain of facts and... nothing. The facts simply do not matter to him and the regime.

Fucking amoral liar.

:grr: :grr:
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msrbly Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:14 PM
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162. "We went to war because we were attacked, . . ."
Very passive voice. Note that he didn't say "We went to war because IRAQ attacked us." He (who's kidding who, Rove) is implying Saddam ordered the 9/11 attacks without actually saying so.
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msrbly Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:15 PM
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163. "We went to war because we were attacked, . . ."
Very passive voice. Note that he didn't say "We went to war because IRAQ attacked us." He (who's kidding who, Rove) is implying Saddam ordered the 9/11 attacks without actually saying so.
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Zerex71 Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:35 PM
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165. He's tried all the other excuses, now he's trying this one
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