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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:45 AM
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Al Jazeera denies Rumsfeld charge it airs killings
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050604/ts_nm/security_rumsfeld_media_dc;_ylt=Ajud0BsSyOEkn1uNCMJQZH6s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2MTQ3MTFjBHNlYwN0cw--

DUBAI (Reuters) - The Arab TV channel Al Jazeera rejected on Saturday as unfounded Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's accusations that it was encouraging Islamic militant groups by airing beheadings of foreign hostages in Iraq.


"Al Jazeera ... has never at any time transmitted pictures of killings or beheadings and ... any talk about this is absolutely unfounded," the television said in a statement.

Al Jazeera, repeatedly accused by Washington of biased reporting on Iraq, has often shown video of hostages pleading at gunpoint for their government to withdraw its troops. But it does not broadcast footage of killings, posted on the Internet by militants.

The channel voiced "deep regret and surprise" over Rumsfeld's remarks.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:57 AM
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1. Things are really bad when
I see things like this and believe AlJazeera over Rummy. I am sad :-(
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:23 AM
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5. Why would you feel bad? This Adm. and American Corp. Whore Media
have done nothing but lie. The facts are out there.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:28 AM
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6. Feel bad? Because you trust a fairly independent media source
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 11:29 AM by K-W
over the pentagon?

You should have been doing so all along.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:14 PM
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9. yes, but it still depresses me that ALJ is more
trustworthy than my own government
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:52 PM
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11. LOL! I thought the same thing ...
and came to the same conclusion - Rummy's the liar! It would absolutely hysterical if it wasn't so f*cking sad.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:57 AM
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2. I recommend "Control Room" to those who want to see behind-the-scenes...
...at Al Jazeera. Fascinating.

Rumsfeld's just LYING again.:eyes:
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:34 AM
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7. Yes...Control Room!!
Excellent little documentary--but make sure if you watch it at home, keep the large objects away from you, because you have this need to throw things at those jerks and scream, 'your a liar!!'

Most libraries have the video or DVD--so no one has any excuse!


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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:56 AM
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8. I was just going to ask where to find it
thanks!

:hi:
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:12 AM
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3. WHAT!?!?!
This should be REALLY easy to confirm or dismiss.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:19 AM
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4. Rumbutt confusing AlJazeera for Fox....
the bush/rumbutt a$$ licking propaganda channel.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:24 PM
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10. Don't know if this particular video was debunked.
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 01:24 PM by igil
If not, it only takes one counterexample to falsify an assertion.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/13/1087065028697.html

(on edit: I hate getting negation polarity backwards.)
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:02 PM
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15. See post 14

Aljazeera's media spokesman, Jihad Ballout, said that Rumsfeld was mistaken. "Aljazeera has never ever shown a beheading of any hostage," Ballout said.

Perhaps this is a little weaselly. The 2004 execution described in the Sydney Morning Herald is a bullet through the back of the head, not a beheading.

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:02 PM
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18. I'll stick by my attempt at falsifying al-Jazeera's statement,
at least as reported in the OP:

""Al Jazeera ... has never at any time transmitted pictures of killings or beheadings and ... any talk about this is absolutely unfounded," the television said in a statement.

"Al Jazeera, repeatedly accused by Washington of biased reporting on Iraq, has often shown video of hostages pleading at gunpoint for their government to withdraw its troops. But it does not broadcast footage of killings, posted on the Internet by militants."

Unless there's some funky stipulation omitted by the ellipses, or the report's wrong, it just takes one example of their having aired a picture of a killing. If nothing else, the repeated airplay of the marine killing the wounded guy in a mosque falsifies the statement.

There's a weaselly out, of course: omit the comma from the last sentence in the second paragraph I quoted: so it's not that they didn't broadcast footage of killings, just not of killings posted on the Internet by militants. In that case, it's possible that the statement, if translated for the reporter, was accurate and the translator goofed.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:55 PM
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12. Captain Philip Francis Queeg (Humphrey Bogart) - Caine Mutiny (film)
Donald Rumsfeld is a dead ringer for Captain Queeg. Not in looks but in actions that speak louder than words.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:57 PM
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13. Rumsfeld wants Al-Jazeera to carry the Jacko trial and the Paris Hilton
upcoming nuptials.

Let's face it, the Bush gang wants the press to be mouthpieces of their propaganda. It is galling that they expect the foreign press to become like the subservient lapdogs in the American press.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:13 PM
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16. That almost goes without saying
Right or wrong, al Jazeera covers the news as its editors see fit, not as the Bush regime would like. When al Jazeera isn't embarrassing the Bush regime with news contradicting their lies, then it's often embarrassing autocratic Arab regimes, some of whom are in the good graces of the US autocratic regime.

Frankly, I think the Bush regime wants al Jazeera off the air.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:59 PM
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14. Al Jazeera link
From al Jazeera
Dated Saturday June 4 10:45 GMT (3:45 am PDT)

Rumsfeld blames Aljazeera over Iraq
By Lawrence Smallman

US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has alleged that Aljazeera is encouraging armed Islamist groups by broadcasting beheadings of foreign hostages in Iraq.

Speaking at a security conference in Singapore on Saturday, Rumsfeld said that "if anyone lived in the Middle East and watched a network like the Aljazeera day after day after day, even if he was an American, he would start waking up and asking what's wrong" . . . .

Aljazeera's media spokesman, Jihad Ballout, said that Rumsfeld was mistaken. "Aljazeera has never ever shown a beheading of any hostage," Ballout said.

"While we work hard to give a comprehensive and balanced account of everything that goes on in Iraq - people clearly have a right to know what is happening on the ground - we have never broadcast images of a hostage being beheaded," Ballout said.

Read more.


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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 09:57 PM
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17. CHECK OUT THIS QUOTE!!!!!!! RUMMY'S Lost His Way!
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 09:58 PM by Up2Late
Rumsfeld earlier said:

"If anyone lived in the Middle East and watched a network like the Al Jazeera day after day after day, even if he was an American, he would start waking up and asking what's wrong.

But America is not wrong.

"It's the people who are going on television chopping off people's heads, that is wrong,"
he told a security conference in Singapore.

"And television networks that carry it and promote it and jump on the spark every time there is a terrorist act are promoting the acts," he said.
<http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L04248939.htm>


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