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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:34 AM
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Deep Throat revealed = W. Mark Felt. ABC News
on TV. no link. his lawyer is on.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:35 AM
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1. That good his first name isn't Richard
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:36 AM
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2. Did he die?
That was supposed to be the condition of releasing his name.

A qucik google search of his name shows that he has always been a candidate.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:53 AM
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29. no he's still alive and he's outing himself
according to CNN
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:32 AM
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55. Hmm....why is he outing himself?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:52 AM
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69. Odds are good Woodward will do another book
...and his kids will get a cut. It's like a legacy. They support his coming out of the shadows--he was torn about it, but thinks that if it could help the family, why not, at this late date. He's very frail now, memory not as good as it once was, has had a stroke.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:18 PM
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84. I read a report that CNN was reporting that his daughter outed him
Perhaps he's getting senile and had let something slip?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:28 PM
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87. If you look at the VF article, he's doing it with understanding of the
...implications. His kids did want him to do it, and he figures he's near the end of the line...
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:26 PM
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95. Yeah...I saw the VF article is now available. GREAT READ!
Saving that one!
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shamanstar Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:33 PM
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179. ive seen his daughter
she is a customer at whole foods where i work. she is a nice lady... i guess he has been senile for 15 years or more now. she teaches spanish at the jc and all day today she got phone calls from cnn and mike wallace on her cell phone during class... she didnt tell the class what was going on but she did say they could find out by watching the news and seeing the story about her dad who is 91. it wasnt too hard to figure out what the news was!!!
all i know is that this woman is a very nice woman and her family always joked that grandpa was deep throat but he would always say "i dont remember anything about that."
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:56 PM
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180. Give her some free food then, eh?
:D
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:41 AM
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185. I knew it was someone in the intelligence community!
After reading "All the President's Men," that only made sense. I thought it was L. Patrick Gray, though.

Guess he wanted to get it off his chest before he died. Felt is 91 & in poor health.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:36 AM
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3. On Good Morning America right now...
Thanks for the heads up
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:36 AM
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4. Just heard it on MSNBC
Edited on Tue May-31-05 10:38 AM by MADem
Amazing!!! When you hear hoofbeats, think HORSES! He has been at the top of the list for YEARS....!!!!!

Here is a funny article from 99, where his kid OUTED him! http://slate.msn.com/id/1003363 /
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:36 AM
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5. I thought it was Linda Lovelace
:rofl:

I crack myself up!
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:58 AM
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34. Well you never know...
Maybe he's a buddy of Jeff Gannon...
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:33 AM
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56. LOL!!
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:21 PM
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86. I was just going to say...
All this time, I thought it was Linda Lovelace.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:24 PM
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163. Ummmmmmmmmmm
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:02 AM
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184. See what I miss not being a morning person?
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #184
187. Yep!
Rejoin the food chain!
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:36 AM
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6. MSNBC just flashed this as a breaking news, just that
guy was #2 at FBI and is breaking his silence to Vanity Fair....
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:37 AM
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7. If true.. here is info about a lunch he had with Woodward in 99
http://slate.msn.com/id/2065299 /

Why Did Bob Woodward Lunch With Mark Felt in 1999?
Was it to ask if he could unmask Deep Throat?
By Timothy Noah
Posted Thursday, May 2, 2002, at 7:29 PM PT

As Chatterbox noted yesterday, the best guess going about the identity of Deep Throat, Bob Woodward's crucial but anonymous Watergate informer, has long been W. Mark Felt, assistant director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In his haste to write yesterday's item, Chatterbox failed to chase down a tip he'd received (apparently first published in the Globe tabloid) that Woodward actually had lunch with Felt within the last few years. Today's Washington Times explains (in its "Inside the Beltway" column) that this information comes from a new book by Ronald Kessler, The Bureau: The Secret History of the FBI, due to be published next week. Like James Mann, who published the definitive Deep Throat piece 10 years ago in the Atlantic, Kessler worked at the Post during Watergate (he left in 1985), though Chatterbox doesn't know whether Kessler, like Mann, will speak out of school about what Woodward told colleagues at the time. Here, according to the Washington Times, is how Kessler relates the story of the Woodward-Felt lunch:
--MORE--
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:23 AM
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48. Woodward's still a NSA Spook! On Larry King Live, CNN Asia
Spook Woodward said, "When we go into

Iraq we will find double the weapons of mass destruction to which the Bush Adm. has alluded to. This is the rule not the exception."

It's obvious Whore Woodward is an NSA agent, was used in Watergate, fed and lied info over the years, and used in Iraqgate... as a slut whore.

Why doesn't Franken, Rhodes, Schultz... air this tape of Slut Woodward? Why doesn't Larry Whore King ever question Slut Woodward about this?

I was in Hong Kong at the time but as far as I know Larry King Live should have been the same edition in USA.


+++++++++++++

A Yalie and a Secret Society Member
The staunchly conservative Bob Woodward grew up in Wheaton, Illinois. A good student at Yale, he was ultimately one of fifteen seniors "tapped" for one of that university's secret societies, Book and Snake, a cut below the more infamous Skull and Bones, but the top of the second-tier fraternities. Woodward had his first journalistic experience working for the Banner, a Yale publication. In his 1965 yearbook he was referred to as a "Banner mogul." Havill writes,

Certainly, with the CIA encouraged to recruit on the Yale campus, particularly among history majors and secret societies, it is more than reasonable to assume Bob may have been one of those approached by the agency, or by a military intelligence unit, especially after four years of naval ROTC training. Although it would answer a lot of questions that have been raised about Bob Woodward, at this point one can only speculate as to whether he was offered the chance to become a "double-wallet guy," as CIA agents who have two identities are dubbed. It would certainly be understandable if he decided not to adhere to the straight and accepted the submerged patriotic glamour and extra funds that such a relationship would provide. It would also explain the comments of Pulitzer Prize-winning author J. Anthony Lukas, when he wrote in 1989 that Bob Woodward was "temperamentally secretive, loathe to volunteer information about himself," or the Washingtonian's remarks in 1987: "He is secretive about everything." As Esquire magazine put it, summing up in its 1992 article on Bob, "What is he hiding?"

The "Floating Pentagon" Assignment
Three days after graduating from Yale, Woodward was sent by the U.S. Navy to Norfolk, Virginia, where he was commissioned as an ensign by none other than U.S. Senator George Smathers from Florida. Bob's assignment was to a very special ship, called a "floating Pentagon," the U.S.S. Wright. The ship was a National Emergency Command Ship-a place where a President and cabinet could preside from in the event of a nuclear war. It had elaborate and sophisticated communications and data processing capabilities. It had a smaller replica of the war room at the Pentagon. It ran under what was called SIOP-Single Integrated Operation Plan. For example, in the event of nuclear war, the Wright was third in line to take full command if the two ahead of it, the Strategic Air Command in Omaha (SAC) and NORAD, were rendered incommunicado. Woodward-straightfacedly-told authors Colodny and Gettlin (Silent Coup) that he guessed he was picked for the ship because he had been a radio ham as a kid.

http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr196-woodward.html
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:34 AM
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57. Navy Intelligence or CIA, but not NSA. NSA's charter is to gather....
...intelligence through electronic means to include satellite data.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:41 AM
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59. If they've got 74% of the budget they've got to have Spooks! Right?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #59
68. Electronics and satellites are a lot more expensive than people...
...the answer is no. If they do have any human intelligence operatives, they are assigned to ensure an uninterrupted and untapped flow of intelligence into NSA's computer banks. The remainder of NSA's human staff are involved with that organization's administrative and analytical branches.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:47 PM
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92. Only partly true
John Perkins, author of "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" was NSA, and he was, well, an economic hitman.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #48
91. Woodward is Navy intel
the oldest and perhaps most professional intelligence agency in the US, with the most extensive global network, according to many.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:10 PM
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99. Ties in with report that Felt revealed to his kids 3 yrs ago he was DT
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:38 AM
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8. So he's the sucker they've tapped to take the fall for crime lord Poppy?
NGU.


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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:39 AM
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12. My sentiments EXACTLY!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #12
17. Tricky Dick learned his lesson - don't mess with the Bush** Crime Family.
NGU.


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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:56 AM
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31. Wait, why would the * crime family have done this, they wouldn't have
brought down a republican - they only mess with liberals. No?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:03 AM
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38. Apparently Tricky Dick promised Poppy some important position...
...(was it the VP slot for the second term?) and then screwed him over. This was revenge.

NGU.


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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:09 AM
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41. Wow - I never heard this one before but it does fit the * family MO
Everyone who tries to mess with them ends up dead or sorry.
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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:44 AM
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62. FYI, Poppy's pop Prescott put Nixon in power


Tricky Dick didn't stick with the script and make GHWB his running mate. He chose to stick with Agnew and not keep his promise.

Also on June 1st, 1972, Nixon announced "detente" with the Soviets and that he was going to work towards cooling the Cold War. Peace isn't all that profitable for the BFEE. The intentionally sloppy Watergate break-in took place a few weeks later on June 17th, led by Bush's old Bay of Pigs buddies E. Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis.

It's kind of interesting that neither Woodward, Bernstein nor Bradlee will confirm, don't you think?

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #62
64. They make my skin crawl.
"So this is how freedom ends. To thunderous applause."

NGU.


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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #64
93. "WITH thunderous applause"
iirc....
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #62
77. I finally read Kelly's book, The Family.
There is some mention about Prescott and Nixon's history in it. Now I will have to go back and look.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #62
78. GREAT photo! That's one oily-looking group of creeps.
Prescott looks particularly creepy. Remarkably sneaky, and sinister.
Typical Republicans.

Thanks a LOT for posting this. Their manner confirms any suspicion anyone would have about them. Looks like Republicans were dirty way back when.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:15 PM
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83. I think the reason that they (Woodward/Bernstein/Bradley) will not confirm
...is because they made a promise to the source, till death do us part. And they aren't gonna shift the goalposts, because that might make other sources very nervous. They want to be seen as totally true to their intial promise. Plus, it gives them time to whip up their NYT bestsellers, assuming Mr. Felt doesn't go too too quickly into that good night.

It's Felt, though--even though they will not admit the obvious. That VF article is a corker!
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #62
160. is Vanavar Bush related to the BFEE bushes?
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #62
175. All three have confirmed.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #38
65. Nixon had also become increasingly more irrational during meetings...
...with Congressional leaders because of the pressures associated with Watergate.

Shortly before General Al Haig was appointed White House Chief-of-Staff (who promptly reassigned the nuclear "football" to someone besides Nixon) Nixon had stated during a foreign affairs closed-door session that he could nuke China back to the Stone Age with a flip of a switch. Poppy was already heavily involved in-country with Chinese leaders and this was something he was not willing to risk.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #65
82. Right.
It had nothing to do with Bush. Nixon treated Bush better than others in the administration felt he should. The conflict between Bush and Ruimsfeld, for example, had already taken root. Bush played no role whatsoever.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #38
71. Poppy was RNC chair, and hoped to get the VP slot that
...went to Nelson (dead in the saddle) Rockefeller...
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #71
94. huh? rockefeller was ford's vp.
nixon chose agnew, then replaced him with ford when agnew resigned.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #94
155. You are right, I misspoke
It was the Ford nom that he was hoping for.

Also, Poppy initially wanted Ford on the ticket as VP when he ran, but Ford insisted on a co-presidency, which Poppy would have none of, so negotiations ended badly, and in the scrum to find a candidate they ended up at the last minute with potato(e) head (they thought his blank looks would be attractive to the ladies...!).
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #31
45. How can the Reagan assassination attempt be explained?
Edited on Tue May-31-05 11:17 AM by KansDem
RR shot by Hinkley, Bush Family friend...

Bush Son Had Dinner Plans With Hinckley Brother Before Shooting
The Associated Press Domestic News
March 31, 1981, Tuesday, PM cycle

HOUSTON
The family of the man charged with trying to assassinate President Reagan is acquainted with the family of Vice President George Bush and had made large contributions to his political campaign, the Houston Post reported today.

The newspaper said in a copyright story, Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr., who allegedly shot Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the vice president's sons.

The newspaper said it was unable to reach Scott Hinckley, vice president of his father's Denver-based firm, Vanderbilt Energy Corp., for comment. Neil Bush lives in Denver, where he works for Standard Oil Co. of Indiana.

In 1978, Neil served as campaign manager for his brother, George W. Bush, the vice president's oldest son, who made an unsuccessful bid for Congress. Neil lived in Lubbock throughout much of 1978, where John Hinckley lived from 1974 through 1980.

On Monday, Neil Bush said he did not know if he had ever met 25-year-old John Hinckley.

"I have no idea," he said. "I don't recognize any pictures of him. I just wish I could see a better picture of him.

Sharon Bush, Neil's wife, said Scott Hinckley was coming to their house as a date of a girl friend of hers. "I don't even know the brother. From what I know and I've heard, they (the Hinckleys) are a very nice family and have given a lot of money to the Bush campaign. I understand he was just the renegade brother in the family. They must feel awful," she said.

The dinner was canceled, she added.

(more)

http://www.hereinreality.com/hinckley.html


on edit: And doesn't Nancy Reagan despise the Bush Family?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #45
58. The Bush and Hinckley families go way back to their reapective oil...
...businesses in Midland, TX. They are very close despite the denials by members of the Bush family. That's why Hinkley was relegated to a country club mental institution instead of a cell next to Sirhan Sirhan.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:56 AM
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73. That's why I find the "don't know if I ever met him" argument so laughable
Neil Bush said he did not know if he had ever met 25-year-old John Hinckley.

But then, isn't Neil the one who claimed that prostitutes came to his room once and wanted sex for no money?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #73
76. Good recall about Neil! :-))
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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #31
72. Do a search for posts by Octafish on the BFEE
His posts are consistently among the most informative on DU and are always packed with juicy facts your history teacher may not have bothered to learn.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #12
174. What proof is there that Bush had anything to do with it?
:shrug:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #8
33. Fall guy
That was my first thought. That and what are they trying to divert attention from? Just more smoke to prevent possible discussion of the memo? How ironic that they would use the impeachment of one pres. to keep their evil chimp from impeachment.
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #33
100. Maybe, but my thought was
it would be interesting to find out about the political sentiments of this man's daughter.
If she is as fed up as the rest of us, maybe it is designed to give courage to people in high places today that know LOTS, so they can spill the beans and bring sanity back.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #8
166. What evidence is there that it was Bush?
:shrug:
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:38 AM
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9. Old Slate article naming him......
http://slate.msn.com/id/2065299 /

SNIP

Why Did Bob Woodward Lunch With Mark Felt in 1999?
Was it to ask if he could unmask Deep Throat?
By Timothy Noah
Posted Thursday, May 2, 2002, at 7:29 PM PT


As Chatterbox noted yesterday, the best guess going about the identity of Deep Throat, Bob Woodward's crucial but anonymous Watergate informer, has long been W. Mark Felt, assistant director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In his haste to write yesterday's item, Chatterbox failed to chase down a tip he'd received (apparently first published in the Globe tabloid) that Woodward actually had lunch with Felt within the last few years. Today's Washington Times explains (in its "Inside the Beltway" column) that this information comes from a new book by Ronald Kessler, The Bureau: The Secret History of the FBI, due to be published next week.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:40 AM
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14. Reagan granted him a pardon?????
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1981/415...

Statement on Granting Pardons to W. Mark Felt and Edward S. Miller
April 15, 1981
Pursuant to the grant of authority in article II, section 2 of the Constitution of the United States, I have granted full and unconditional pardons to W. Mark Felt and Edward S. Miller.

During their long careers, Mark Felt and Edward Miller served the Federal Bureau of Investigation and our nation with great distinction. To punish them further -- after 3 years of criminal prosecution proceedings -- would not serve the ends of justice.

Their convictions in the U.S. District Court, on appeal at the time I signed the pardons, grew out of their good-faith belief that their actions were necessary to preserve the security interests of our country. The record demonstrates that they acted not with criminal intent, but in the belief that they had grants of authority reaching to the highest levels of government.

America was at war in 1972, and Messrs. Felt and Miller followed procedures they believed essential to keep the Director of the FBI, the Attorney General, and the President of the United States advised of the activities of hostile foreign powers and their collaborators in this country. They have never denied their actions, but, in fact, came forward to acknowledge them publicly in order to relieve their subordinate agents from criminal actions.

Four years ago, thousands of draft evaders and others who violated the Selective Service laws were unconditionally pardoned by my predecessor. America was generous to those who refused to serve their country in the Vietnam war. We can be no less generous to two men who acted on high principle to bring an end to the terrorism that was threatening our nation.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:43 AM
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18. Apparently he okayed warrantless break-ins in connection
Edited on Tue May-31-05 10:50 AM by pacoyogi
with the Weather Underground....

MORE INFO on Break ins---

http://slate.msn.com/id/1003363 /

SNIP

A Postscript: On Nov. 1, 1980, Richard Nixon, "after avoiding testifying in twenty other courtrooms over the last six years was on the stand in a criminal case." The defendants were W. Mark Felt and Edward S. Miller, former chief of the FBI's intelligence division, accused of conspiring to violate the civil rights of members of the Weather Underground when they authorized warrantless break-ins of the radicals' homes (the Weatherfolk were suspected of planting bombs in public buildings) in 1972 and 1973.

Nixon thought Felt was Deep Throat. But Nixon was extremely eager to testify on Felt and Miller's behalf, even though he hadn't been subpoenaed. Having successfully and rather strenuously dodged prosecution himself, Nixon had volunteered to walk into a courtroom and testify to help someone he believed had triggered his own downfall. Felt and Miller's lawyers had turned Nixon down because they'd worried that Nixon's reputation would only hurt Felt and Miller with the largely black jury. The prosecution, however, "had been delighted to have him," Anson writes. So Nixon appeared as a prosecution witness. While Nixon took the oath, Black Panthers and former antiwar activists shouted, "Thief!" and "Liar!" called him a "war criminal," and were expelled by federal marshals from the courtroom. (This according to the third volume of Stephen Ambrose's Nixon biography, Nixon: Ruin and Recovery.)

On the stand, Nixon said that he thought the warrantless break-ins were perfectly legal. (Although he wasn't asked under oath whether he'd known of or approved them, he'd said earlier that he hadn't.) The president, Nixon said, had power to authorize such break-ins, and so did the FBI, which was an arm of the executive branch. Nixon said there had been "hard evidence" linking the Weather Underground to foreign governments. Nixon said he himself had approved similar break-ins under the 1970 "Houston Plan," which he said was also legal. Nixon gave an impromptu lecture about a president's heavy burden during wartime. "I hope that neither President Carter or Governor Reagan, if he should be president, has to do what I had to do, what Franklin Roosevelt had to do, what President Truman had to do, that is, write letters to people whose sons have been killed in war." Possibly in part because of the jury's distaste for Nixon, Felt, and Miller were found guilty and sentenced to pay $5,000 and $3,500, respectively. After Ronald Reagan, who was elected president a few days later, assumed the presidency, he pardoned the two men.

It is almost too irresistible to wonder: Did Nixon serve up his sympathetic testimony because he knew it would alienate the jury and give Deep Throat what he, Nixon, deemed his just deserts? We know that Nixon was a revenge buff who was capable of extraordinarily Machiavellian behavior. We also know that Nixon sincerely believed that warrantless break-ins of the sort that Felt and Miller (and, under different circumstances, Nixon himself) had authorized were a necessary line of defense against radicals and troublemakers (many of whom did indeed prove to be violent).

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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:48 AM
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23. Old Interview with Felt--Interesting..
http://slate.msn.com/id/1003363 /


Are you Deep Throat?

The answer to that is yes and no. I'm the person that they're talking about. I was involved very deeply in all that ... went on. But I'm not guilty of disclosure, leaking it to the press, or anything like that.
Did Felt arrange to leak to Woodward through an intermediary? "No." Does Felt agree with Mann that the leaker was someone from the FBI? Felt hasn't read the Mann piece, "but I don't think so. It's just not logical ... The nature of the information that the paper was printing would have to have come from more than one source."

Chatterbox, trying not to plead, asked Felt if there were any other reason, aside from Felt's actually not being Deep Throat, that might impel him to deny he was Deep Throat.

No, Felt said. There wasn't.

The conversation seemed to be winding down. Chatterbox asked Felt whether it was annoying to be asked over and over again by various people whether he was Deep Throat. "It gets to be very provoking," he said. Does he find it irritating? "Yes."

Chatterbox switched to the general topic of tension between the FBI and the White House at the time of J. Edgar Hoover's death, which occurred one month before the Watergate break-in (and, according to Mann, is why the FBI helped Woodward nail Nixon). "I don't think there was any serious tension," Felt said. Did he want the top job? "I certainly wouldn't have objected" to getting the No. 1 position, Felt said. Was he disappointed when he didn't get it? "I can't say that I was." Didn't the White House interfere with the FBI investigation of Watergate? "I don't have any recollection of any specifics like that," he said--perhaps displaying an old man's poor memory (the White House interference is now a matter of public record), or perhaps displaying a George Smiley-like implacability. (Felt is, after all, a former member of the G-man elite.)

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:51 AM
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27. Well, aren't they legal now?
Part of Patriot?
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 07:24 PM
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176. what he was convicted of - spying on left wing individuals
per the WP:

A jury found him guilty in 1980 of violating civil rights by authorizing warrantless searches at homes of friends and relatives of left-wing fugitives during the early 1970s. President Reagan pardoned him, along with another former FBI official convicted in the case. Felt and his co-defendant had argued they were authorized by their boss, then-acting FBI Director L. Patrick Gray III, to approve break-ins without first going to court for a warrant.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:38 AM
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10. Ooooh lala!
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:39 AM
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11. Who thinks Bush did his press conference knowing this was coming?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:47 AM
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22. Why would he care?
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:50 AM
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26. Any F ups that he was sure to commit
would be masked by this news.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:35 PM
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97. He did his press conf. knowing that ENRON AA charge overturned by
SCOTUS. Notice how much time he spent on SS. Folks have to consider that if there are no real penalties of corporate crime and greed the corporate bear that eats your retirement for lunch is unstoppable. Bush's entire purpose in his SS program is help corporations and Wall Street brokers. Anything that smacks of white collar criminal behavior and non-punishment throws a wet towel on Bush's smoldering SS fire.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:39 AM
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13. Did Felt die?
http://www.answers.com/topic/deep-throat

Deep Throat was the anonymous informant whose tips helped reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein uncover the Watergate scandal during the presidency of Richard Nixon. The reporters, who broke the Watergate story for The Washington Post, described their informant as a high-ranking official in the executive branch of government. (Because the source insisted on total anonymity and would only talk on "deep background," he was given the nickname "Deep Throat" by Post senior editor Howard Simons, who borrowed the title from an X-rated movie of the era.) In their book All the President's Men, Woodward and Bernstein said that Woodward would meet with Deep Throat in parking garages and other obscure locations, where the source would answer questions and offer cryptic hints such as his famous advice to "follow the money" to get at the truth. Even after Nixon resigned in shame in 1974, Deep Throat insisted on retaining his anonymity, and the reporters have honored that request. (The Washington Post has since described Deep Throat's identity as "the best-kept secret in American politics and journalism," as only three men besides the informer have ever known who he was: Woodward, Bernstein, and their editor at the Post, Ben Bradlee.) Over the years, political observers have suggested many possible candidates as Deep Throat, including FBI director L. Patrick Gray, Nixon advisor Alexander Haig, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and even former U.N. ambassador (and later president) George Bush, Sr.. Woodward has said he will reveal the true identity of Deep Throat after the informant's death.

Deep Throat was played by Hal Holbrook in the movie version of All the President's Men. Woodward and Bernstein were played by Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman, respectively... Two senior Nixon staffers have written books investigating Deep Throat's identity: Leonard Garment (In Search of Deep Throat, 2001) and John Dean (Unmasking Deep Throat, 2002).


hmmm....

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1981/415...

Pursuant to the grant of authority in article II, section 2 of the Constitution of the United States, I have granted full and unconditional pardons to W. Mark Felt and Edward S. Miller.

During their long careers, Mark Felt and Edward Miller served the Federal Bureau of Investigation and our nation with great distinction. To punish them further -- after 3 years of criminal prosecution proceedings -- would not serve the ends of justice.

Their convictions in the U.S. District Court, on appeal at the time I signed the pardons, grew out of their good-faith belief that their actions were necessary to preserve the security interests of our country. The record demonstrates that they acted not with criminal intent, but in the belief that they had grants of authority reaching to the highest levels of government.

America was at war in 1972, and Messrs. Felt and Miller followed procedures they believed essential to keep the Director of the FBI, the Attorney General, and the President of the United States advised of the activities of hostile foreign powers and their collaborators in this country. They have never denied their actions, but, in fact, came forward to acknowledge them publicly in order to relieve their subordinate agents from criminal actions.

Four years ago, thousands of draft evaders and others who violated the Selective Service laws were unconditionally pardoned by my predecessor. America was generous to those who refused to serve their country in the Vietnam war. We can be no less generous to two men who acted on high principle to bring an end to the terrorism that was threatening our nation.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:40 AM
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15. He's not dead, but he's in his 90s.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:41 AM
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16. Pardoned by Reagan in 1981
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:09 PM
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170. Okay
Next stop: Medal of Freedom.

I would love to see Bush's (or McClellan's, if we aren't that lucky) reaction if somebody asks him about it at the next press briefing.
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:45 AM
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19. MORE AT RAW STORY
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:56 AM
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32. read the advance copy of Vanity Fair article online here.........link.....
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:45 AM
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20. CNN confirming it...he was the # 2 man in the FBI at the time
Edited on Tue May-31-05 10:46 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:46 AM
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21. Yeah. While the other networks carried Bush.
Beyond weird. Bush speaking on Fox, CBS, NBC, and ABC is talking about Deep Throat.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:48 AM
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24. where's Bob Woodword? what he saying?
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:50 AM
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25. link on MSNBC
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:52 AM
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28. thanks!
W. Mark Felt, who retired from the FBI after rising to its second most senior position, has identified himself as the "Deep Throat" source quoted by The Washington Post to break the Watergate scandal that led to President Nixon's resignation, Vanity Fair magazine said Tuesday.

"I'm the guy they used to call Deep Throat," he told John D. O'Connor, the author of Vanity Fair's exclusive that appears in its July issue.

Felt, now 91 and living in Santa Rosa, Calif. reportedly gave O'Connor permission to disclose his identity.

"The Felt family cooperated fully, providing old photographs for the story and agreeing to sit for portraits," Vanity Fair stated in a press release.

Felt said he was "only doing his duty" and did not seek to bring down Nixon over the cover-up of a break-in at Democratic Party offices in the Watergate complex in Washington, D.C.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:54 AM
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30. Oh wow. Thanks for the link.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:08 AM
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40. Booooo hooo hooo this link won't work......
I need another one!!!!
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:00 AM
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35. he wrote a book in 1980 ....
Edited on Tue May-31-05 11:00 AM by hadrons
called FBI Pyramid: From the Inside

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry...

doesn't seem to be in print

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:00 AM
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36. Link to the advance copy of the ENTIRE Vanity Fair article online here
Edited on Tue May-31-05 11:02 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:23 AM
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49. That's great- thank you
:hi:
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:21 PM
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85. Interesting..was his daughter living under a rock?
I've thought it was him since around the time of that announcement a year or so ago that DT was ill and they were close to revealing his identity.

Thing that got me about the article is that she didn't know who Bob Woodward was when he knocked on their door in 1999. That's a little hard to believe.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:28 PM
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96. ************ Hard to see that in the middle of all these posts ***********
Thanks. :)
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:02 AM
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37. Desperate need for a news distraction I guess. nt
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:05 AM
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39. ABC cut into the press conference to break the Deepthroat thing
Edited on Tue May-31-05 11:06 AM by Bozita
They skipped the last 5-8 minutes.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:13 AM
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43. lol Bush dumped for Deep Throat.... nt
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:11 AM
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42. FOX is the only cable channel not covering it...
hmm...
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:14 AM
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44. In their world, Watergate never happened and there was no Deep Throat
Edited on Tue May-31-05 11:15 AM by Jack Rabbit
It was all made up by the librul media.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:16 AM
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46. Here's a link to a Reuters blurb...
Ex-FBI man claims to be "Deep Throat" -US magazine


Ex-FBI man claims to be "Deep Throat" -US magazine
By Reuters | May 31, 2005

Vanity Fair magazine said Tuesday that Mark Felt, a former FBI official, had revealed himself to be "Deep Throat," the legendary source who leaked Watergate scandal secrets to the Washington Post and brought down President Richard Nixon.

ADVERTISEMENT

Unmasking the identity of "Deep Throat," a key source for Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, would solve one of the greatest political and journalistic mysteries of recent history.

The magazine said Felt, now a retiree living in Santa Rosa, California, had admitted his role in the scandal to his family and had cooperated with the story. It is the first time a major potential source has claimed to be "Deep Throat"


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2...
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:20 AM
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47. I know Mark Felt
This is so far out of character for him, I'm really amazed.

He's an arrogant prick. Meanspirited and completely vile.

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:28 AM
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51. Tell more!
How do you know him?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:31 AM
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53. We were neighbors
Edited on Tue May-31-05 11:31 AM by OldLeftieLawyer
Believe it or not, we both lived in a condominium complex in Alexandria, Virginia called "Watergate at Landmark." It was built by the same developer as the one in DC. Very elegant place.

He and his wife lived down the hall. He had a head of white hair that was always carefully coiffed and poofed, and he wore these black-framed glasses, much like Swifty Lazar wore. He was just an unfriendly prick. I remember watching for him when the pardons were made public, but he stayed inside.

If I recall correctly, either his wife or one of his kids committed suicide, and, after that, he was rarely seen.

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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:46 AM
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63. He's 91 years old and not well
I hate to say it, but he probably wants to get this off his chest before he passes away.

BTW, Bob Woodward won't confirm or deny Felt's confession. Says he committed to keep Deep's secret until his/her death.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:25 AM
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50. Link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050531/ap_on_re_us/deep_th... ;_ylt=ApKLpkAoRfhlBx6pi7mI_Ays0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2MTQ3MTFjBHNlYwN0cw--
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:30 AM
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52. Just flashed by CSPAN
Cited Vanity Fair as the source.;
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:31 AM
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54. "Why Did Bob Woodward Lunch With Mark Felt in 1999?" May 2, 2002 article
Edited on Tue May-31-05 11:36 AM by ElsewheresDaughter

Timothy Noah knew and reported this in 2002!

http://slate.msn.com/id/2065299 /

Why Did Bob Woodward Lunch With Mark Felt in 1999?
Was it to ask if he could unmask Deep Throat?
By Timothy Noah
Posted Thursday, May 2, 2002, at 7:29 PM PT


As Chatterbox noted yesterday, the best guess going about the identity of Deep Throat, Bob Woodward's crucial but anonymous Watergate informer, has long been W. Mark Felt, assistant director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In his haste to write yesterday's item, Chatterbox failed to chase down a tip he'd received (apparently first published in the Globe tabloid) that Woodward actually had lunch with Felt within the last few years. Today's Washington Times explains (in its "Inside the Beltway" column) that this information comes from a new book by Ronald Kessler, The Bureau: The Secret History of the FBI, due to be published next week. Like James Mann, who published the definitive Deep Throat piece 10 years ago in the Atlantic, Kessler worked at the Post during Watergate (he left in 1985), though Chatterbox doesn't know whether Kessler, like Mann, will speak out of school about what Woodward told colleagues at the time. Here, according to the Washington Times, is how Kessler relates the story of the Woodward-Felt lunch:

In the summer of 1999, Woodward showed up unexpectedly at the home of Felt's daughter, Joan, in Santa Rosa, California, north of San Francisco, and took him to lunch, Joan Felt, who was taking care of him at her home, told me.

She recalled that Woodward made his appearance just after a mini-controversy broke in the press late July 1999 about whether Bernstein had told his then-wife, Nora Ephron, that Felt was Deep Throat. Woodward had been interviewing former FBI officials for a book he was writing on Watergate.

However, now confused because of the effects of a stroke, Felt was in no shape to provide credible information. Joan said her father greeted Woodward like an old friend, and their mysterious meeting appeared to be more of a celebration than an interview, lending support to the notion that Felt was, in fact, Deep Throat.

"Woodward just showed up at the door and said he was in the area," Joan Felt said. "He came in a white limousine, which parked at a schoolyard about 10 blocks away. He walked to the house. He asked if it was OK to have a martini with my father at lunch, and I said it would be fine."

A few caveats are in order. Chatterbox interviewed Felt in the summer of 1999, too, and found him fairly lucid, if annoyed to be asked once again if he was Deep Throat. (Maybe he had his good days and his bad days.) If Woodward was interviewing former FBI officials for a new book about Watergate, that would of course provide ample justification for Woodward to seek out Felt, even if Felt wasn't Deep Throat. (Felt was, after all, the No. 3 guy at the FBI during Watergate.) In 1999, Felt denied to Chatterbox that he was Deep Throat, just as Felt denied it, more recently, to Kessler (with the difference being that by the time Kessler asked him, Felt apparently had difficulty remembering exactly who Bob Woodward was).

Still, the timing is intriguing. When Woodward came calling, Felt had just been the subject of a flurry of stories about Chase Culeman-Beckman, a 19-year-old from Port Chester, N.Y., who'd revealed to the Hartford Courant that Bernstein's son, Jacob, 11 years earlier had blurted out at summer camp that Deep Throat was W. Mark Felt. (Click here for the full story.) Carl Bernstein and his ex-wife, Nora Ephron, quickly stepped in to explain that Bernstein had never told his wife or son Deep Throat's identity and that Ephron had just always guessed it to be Felt. But Ephron's intuition on this matter has to carry some weight, and it seems logical that in the aftermath of this awkward episode, Woodward would have felt the need to explore with Felt whether it was time to reveal their secret. Based on what the Washington Times passed on from Kessler's book, though, Kessler's evidence is not dispositive.


Timothy Noah writes "Chatterbox" for Slate.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:41 AM
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60. Bernstein Won't Confirm or Deny Report that Mark Felt is 'Deep Throat'
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp...

Published: May 31, 2005 12:15 PM ET

NEW YORK He has long been a front runner, and according to an article in the latest Vanity Fair magazine, former FBI official W. Mark Felt is indeed legendary Watergate source "Deep Throat."

It's not exactly from the horse's mouth, but the magazine reports that Felt, now 91, and living in Santa Rosa, Calif., "has told friends and intimates that he was the confiden tial inside source of Watergate fame."

Contacted by E&P, former Washington Post reporter Carl Bernstein, who with Bob Woodward relied on the man dubbed 'Deep Throat' for crucial advice in their Watergate sleuthing, would neither confirm of deny Felt was the source, and said that the Woodward-Bernstein team would not change its stance.

<snip>

The offices of Woodward and fromer Post editor Ben Bradlee told E&P they would have no comment.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:31 PM
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88. Very carefully worded answer from Bernstein
"Other sources have released us from pledges, but nothing has happened that could change that in these circumstances."

It's him. They won't say because they don't think he's competent. They think his daughter is pushing him to do this to cash in or something.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:43 AM
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61. Jeff Greenfield, CNN, just speculated this may suggest FBI was out to
Edited on Tue May-31-05 11:43 AM by gauguin57
bring Nixon down.

Greenfield mentioned a Watergate tape -- six days after the breakin -- where Nixon said, "Can't we use the CIA to get the FBI to back off?" (Greenfield's words) ...

Greenfield speculates the FBI was so pissed at how they were being used/abused that they wanted to find a way to bring down the Nixon presidency, and Mark Felt was that way.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:51 AM
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67. And the FBI is being made the fall guy again
and again and again
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #61
70. After Hoover croaked, the FBI had honorable leaders.
For a short while, anyway. Would it did again.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:57 AM
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74. The next comment Nixon made was "The CIA doesn't want all of that....
...whole Bay of Pigs thing to come out", which was a not-so-veiled threat to reveal information about the JFK assassination if the CIA wouldn't help him. The CIA leadership went ballistic when they heard about Nixon's comment...and Nixon never spoke a word about the "Bay of Pigs thing".
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #74
158. I don't think that is what he meant
the CIA's activities were not publicly known at that time---this is before the Congressional investigations of the CIA of the mid-1970s and the intelligence reform and Church comittee

I do not think he was talking about JFK's assassination
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:51 AM
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66. Yowza! that's HUGE news
But I've never heard of the guy...

david
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UCLA Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:58 AM
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75. CNN Story Link
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MichiDem Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #75
81. Maybe now
they'll release the rest of the info on the Kennedy assasination.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:05 PM
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79. W Mark Felt was pardoned by Reagon for authorizing warrantless break-ins
of Vietnam war protestor HQ's.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:09 PM
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80. 'Deep Throat' Reportedly Comes Forward
A former FBI official claims he was "Deep Throat," the long-anonymous source who leaked secrets about President Nixon's Watergate coverup to The Washington Post, Vanity Fair reported Tuesday.

W. Mark Felt, 91, who was second-in-command at the FBI in the early 1970s, kept the secret even from his family until 2002, when he confided to a friend that he had been Post reporter Bob Woodward's source, the magazine said.

"I'm the guy they used to call Deep Throat," he told lawyer John D. O'Connor, the author of the Vanity Fair article, the magazine said in a news release.

Felt was initially adamant about remaining silent on the subject, thinking disclosures about his past somehow dishonorable.

"I don't think (being Deep Throat) was anything to be proud of," Felt indicated to his son, Mark Jr., at one point, according to the article. "You (should) not leak information to anyone."

Felt is a retiree living in Santa Rosa, Calif., with his daughter, Joan, the magazine said. He could not immediately be reached for comment by The Associated Press. His family members disagreed with their father, feeling that he should receive.

<snip>

http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID...

MAY 8, 2002: 'Deep Throat' mystery points to SR man

http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID...
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:42 PM
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89. oops, self-baleted
Edited on Tue May-31-05 01:48 PM by TalkingDog
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #89
90. All the right wingers are already jumping over this
saying "who hasn't claimed they were deep throat" What a bunch of morons because he brought down their republican god. However, when Ken Starr tries to take down Clinton, he's a hero.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:59 PM
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98. 'Watergate source' breaks cover (Deepthroat)
A former deputy chief of the FBI has reportedly admitted to being "Deep Throat", the source who leaked secrets during the Watergate scandal.

Vanity Fair magazine says that Mark Felt owned up to being the source whose identity has been secret for decades.

The scandal forced the resignation of US President Richard Nixon in 1974.

Deep Throat helped Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein uncover the Watergate affair. They would not confirm Mr Felt's claim.

More at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4597503.stm
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #98
101. Wa Po just admitted it too - about 5 mins ago..
n/t
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:45 PM
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102. So what?
How about the Iraq Downing St Memos?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
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103. WOODWARD CONFIRMS DEEP THROAT
Edited on Tue May-31-05 04:25 PM by matcom
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
104. Just heard this on MSNBC
Already the wingers are saying how bad Fell was.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
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112. are they really that f-ed up?
An FBI man does his duty to protect and serve the constitution against a WH using it's power for criminal ends and they are mad? And they think Ken Starr was right to prosecute Bill Clinton for getting a hummer?

:wtf: I am speechless. what assholes
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #112
128. The fact that they believe that obstruction of justice, burglary,
Edited on Tue May-31-05 04:54 PM by Penndems
maintaining an "enemies list" and money laundering is both conscionable and acceptable in a democracy should tell you just what treasonous, misguided and diseased individuals they really are.

It's deja vu all over again in this country. Nixon wanted to gain control over both the FBI and the CIA. BushCo is attempting to accomplish was Nixon didn't.

Any decent American who calls his/herself a patriot should be deeply concerned and alarmed at what's happening here.

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #128
136. Obstruction of justice, burglary, money laundering, "enemies list"
All pale when compared to starting an illegal, immoral war based on lies, yet that fact doesn't seem to bother them...
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #136
141. Amen to that
This crowd and their minons has all the conscience, honor, decency and integrity of a serial criminal.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #128
139. Smoke Screen: They found something they believe will cover-up
the real "Smoking Gun:" The Downing Street/Tony Blair Memo.

:)
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #139
161. Do you really believe
that Vanity Fair, under orders from Karl Rove, forced Mark felt to admit before he died that he was Deep Throat in order to distract attention from a British memo?

:tinfoilhat:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #161
188. No. Thing there's another reason for it. He was urged to by others.
What does anyone else thing about the "timing?"
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #104
121. Who is saying exactly what about Felt? Felt's a true American hero.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #121
126. Liddy and two other guys were talking
The guy was bald..............Kwoski....some name like that. Didn't see it in print.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #126
132. Liddy's always been an idiot - so what exactly was said about Felt?
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #132
147. The bald guy
was saying Fell was supposed to be a government official (#2 FBI, I think, and he had no right to give info to Woodward/Bernstein. Said he should have told his superiors. Said he was guilty of something or other for giving info to reporter. There was more, but along the same vein.
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Ratty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #104
142. Unbelievable but true
I had to surf around to check this out but you're right: He's at worst a traitor and at best a Ratfink with no honor. Of course if he'd ratted out a Dem he'd be getting medals already. It's people like him who give true American Patriot Heroes like Linda Tripp a bad name, apparently. Tripp: good Ratfink--Felt: Very bad Ratfink. The self delusion of the right is unbelievable at times.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
105. HaHa!
I win this round. :P
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #105
106. yes you do
:D
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
107. -
Edited on Tue May-31-05 04:27 PM by underpants
See that is just sitting there so easy for the picking but I will leave it alone and let it pass. :evilgrin:
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
108. So...
how much of a surprise was this? Was Felt's name ever discussed as DT? I've heard a lit of theories, but Felt's name doesn't ring a bell.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #108
109. he was always a suspect
#2 at FBI
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #108
113. I was just trying to remember the group of students who spent years
working out who they thought it was, and whether Felt was one of their top picks. Anyone remember them?
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #113
137. Yes, they had Felt on their short list...
Edited on Tue May-31-05 04:49 PM by longship
but they reasoned that DT had to be a WH insider and discounted the FBI link.

See at the Web site for the student investigation:

Deep Throat Uncovered

Of course, they were wrong. They said it was Fred Fielding, Nixon's deputy counsel.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #108
125. Yes, from what I know, he was discussed frequently
In fact, he was the leading candidate... at least according to the people I've read. I would never have heard of him if he hadn't been mentioned as a leading candidate to be Deep Throat.

--Peter
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #125
150. Here's some old articles about Felt being Deep Throat
From Slate magazine's Tim Noah in 1999 and 2002:

(1999 -- Noah interviewed Felt over the phone and gets an unconvincing denial) http://slate.msn.com/id/1003363 /

(2002 -- Noah claims Felt is still his preferred candidate) http://slate.msn.com/id/2067081 /

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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #108
134. He was named in the Nixon tapes too
Nixon and Halderman discussed him as being the leak.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #108
151. Jim Mann had him on a list of three
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/199205/mann

"He could well have been Mark Felt, who admitted that he harbored ambitions to be the FBI director -- not only at the time of Hoover's death but also in the spring of 1973, when Gray's nomination as permanent director failed to win confirmation and Nixon named William Ruckelshaus acting director. Felt was known in Washington as a person willing to talk to the press."

Good article, written in 1992, arguing that DT had to be with the FBI. He looks brilliant right now.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
110. Cool. Now if we can just find Amelia Earhardt... nt
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
111. Pay backs are Hell
and Felts paid back Nixon for not getting the job he wanted......
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
114. Just flashed across CSPAN
I like this Kent State forum replay
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
115. I hear them all saying they knew it. I love it when they do that.
:grouphug:
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
116. There goes your spidey sense
:)
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #116
118. i blame the scotch
;)
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
117. Woodward will say whatever BushCo tells him to say...as did Felt.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #117
129. I've reread your post 6 times and still don't get what you're saying.
Edited on Tue May-31-05 04:41 PM by Seabiscuit
You think Bushco told Woodward to confirm Felt was deep throat? In that case, they also told Ben Bradlee to confirm it as well?

I don't think so, Tim.

Felt disclosed his identity as Deep Throat before this latest story broke at the Post.

And I can't fathom at all your remark: "...as did Felt". You think Felt was told by Bushco to say he was Deep Throat?

I don't think so, Tim.

He confided it to a friend and to family members long before his interview with Vanity Fair, and even longer before this latest story from the Post.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #129
154. Nixon screwed Bush...and paid for it.
Edited on Tue May-31-05 05:09 PM by BrklynLiberal
look here for connections
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


From "The Immaculate Deception" by Russell Bowen:

"According to Nixon's biography, his personal and political ties with the Bush family go back to 1946, when Nixon claims he read an ad placed in an L.A. newspaper by the Orange County Republican Party and a wealthy group of businessmen led by Prescott Bush, the father of George Bush.

"They wanted a young candidate to run for Congress. Nixon applied and won the job, becoming a mouthpiece for the Bush group, progressing to the U.S. Senate and in 1952 the vice presidency.

"In 1960, Vice President Nixon was scouring the world seeking the presidency. At his side was Prescott Bush. Congressman Gerald Ford was helping raise funds, as was George Bush.


The links between the Bush family and Nixon go way back.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #154
173. That's the evidence for your original statement?????
I still don't get it.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
119. My question is;
why now? Why reveal today? Is he going to die or is he ill? Is this yat another in a series of distractions for the public to keep them off the illegal invasion? I just don't understand why this is occuring at this time.....
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #119
122. He is 91 years old
Might as well reveal his identity now, on his own terms.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #119
124. He is ill and the family has some financial needs
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #119
127. Maybe they want to keep the idea of corruption in the spotlight?
Or maybe I'm just wishful thinking? About the only thing from the family yet has been "wait for the article."
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #119
133. Felt is seriously ill
He suffered a severe stroke not too long ago.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
120. At last, the name of a great patriot is revealed
Had it not been for Deep Throat, Nixon would have gotten away with his crimes.

I wish we had such a patriot today!
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #103
123. I call KOOL-AID - This whole "outing of deep throat" just reeks
The man is in his 90s and can't speak for himself, so his family outs him! And Woodward is ready to concur even though the man can't speak for himself and even though his agreement was until the man died.

I don't believe it for a second. Besides...who cares.

I believe another soldier died today in Iraq.
I believe many more Iraqis died today in a conflict that we started.

I believe there is something serious going on today - but it's not Deep Throat and it's not Stem Cell Research and Bush*'s conference - those seem like obvious distractions. Anyone have an idea what is really happening today?
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #123
130. he did an interview. he outed himself.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #130
164. Statement from Mark Felt's family
Nick Jones, 23, the grandson of a former FBI official identified in a Vanity Fair article as the "Deep Throat" source in the Watergate scandal, issued the following statement Tuesday from his family's home in Santa Rosa:

The family believes my grandfather, Mark Felt Sr., is a great American hero who went well above and beyond the call of duty at much risk to himself to save his country from a horrible injustice. We all sincerely hope the country will see him this way as well. My grandfather is pleased that he is being honored for his role as Deep Throat with his friend Bob Woodward. He is also pleased by the attention this has drawn to his career and his 32 years of service to his country. But he believes in his heart that the men and women of the FBI who have put their lives at risk for more than 50 years to keep this country safe deserve recognition more than he.

http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID...
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #123
138. this is serious news
its not Michael Jacksonesque smoke-screenery.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #103
131. I like finally knowing
Now we can all stop the speculation
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #103
135. Freaky coincidence
Today in school I presented a report in US History about Watergate. Then I came home, hopped on CNN.com and holy carp, look what I found.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #135
145. Welcome to DU aresef!
Would be nice if there was a current "deep throat" who could help get BushCo and his merry band of criminals out of the white house here in 2005. :)
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #145
149. Oh, no welcome necessary. :D
I've been lurking this site for months. I just never got around to signing up! :P As for Bush's Deep Throat, we did get Richard Clarke.

*sigh* What happened to the investigative reporting they had in the 1970's...now BushCo has the media by the balls.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #135
162. Here's a Watergate timeline:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/waterga...

It will give you a tremendous insight into what happened.

If you haven't read the book "All the President's Men", I highly recommend it. The movie is great, but doesn't include all of the info in the book.

BTW, welcome to DU! :hi:
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #162
169. Yeah...I know.
I used the timeline in my research. :D
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #103
140. Berstein and Bradley agree
So let's put the Bushie conspiracy theories away.
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #140
144. No conspiracy involved
Yeah, and I believe the deal was (IIRC) Woodward, Bernstein, and Bradlee kept quiet until:
A) he died
B) he revealed himself
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potatoe Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #103
143. Obsession with Nixon hatred and conspiracy theories is as
unproductive for Democrats as the Republican's obsession with Clinton conspiracy crockery. Republicans profess hatred of Clinton and yet can't seem to get enough of him.

Leave Nixon to historians and focus on the here and now.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #143
148. ummmmm
so, in your humble opinion, this ISN'T "News"????

i suppose the fine for the runaway bride WOULD be "news"?

this is only the greatest mystery spanning 30 years.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #143
156. The crimes of the Nixon Administration are relevant in the here and now
The current occupant and his sycophants are just picking up where Nixon and his merry band of crooks left off. They've even got Karl Rove, a Nixon protege, ensconced in an office in the West Wing.

You'd think they would've learned something after seeing Dean, Haldeman, Erlichman, Colson, etc., head off to Club Fed.

The right wing doesn't need our help to cut their own throats. They do just fine on their own. Judas Priest, those idiots never learn.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:01 PM
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146. Still leaves the question of motivation
for the timing. Why did Vanity Fair get the nod over the apparently attentive and loyal Woodward?


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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:02 PM
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152. Maybe Vanity Fair paid for the privilege?
Money was mentioned as impetus for the outing.
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:41 PM
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182. Not according to MSNBC
The only cash involved in the Vanity Fair story was the writer being paid as a contributor.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:57 AM
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183. aresef welcome to DU!
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 07:42 PM
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177. Read the VF story
Edited on Tue May-31-05 07:42 PM by Strawman
They wanted to use Woodward, but Woodward blew them off. I don't think he believed that Felt was competent enough to make the decision to reveal himself. I get the sense that his family felt that he would get no glory and that they would get none of the reward that they felt he and his family deserved once he was revealed as Deep Throat by Woodward and Bernstein after he died.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:04 PM
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178. I did read it. I just wonder if $$$ really drove the decision.
It's an incredible coup for VF. I can believe a major falling out with Woodward, but how did Vanity Fair win the right? Just how much money would they need to pony up to beat the Washington Post? What do you think the NY Times would have paid to get a leg up on the Post? Newsweek or Time? It just seems like an odd choice for the biggest scoop in many years. I know it happens that way sometimes, it just feels like there's something else to it.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:13 PM
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159. How come we rarely hear from Bernstein??
I do not trust Woodward since he's cozied up to republicans for years..
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:35 PM
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165. Deep Throat in 1973
Mark Felt looks like a character out of central casting. He could have played himself in the movie:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8047258/
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:46 PM
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167. Bradlee also confirmed Felt as DT.
Edited on Tue May-31-05 05:46 PM by xmas74
About 45 minutes ago.


Felt is Deep Throat. Strange to actually say it.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:05 PM
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153. Regan pardoned Felt
Edited on Tue May-31-05 05:07 PM by MelissaB
Update <2005-5-31 13:54:38 by BooMan>:Ronald Reagan's Presidential Pardons

Albert Alkek- Clemency for withholding information from federal officials regarding an oil price-fixing scheme.

Gilbert Dozier- Commuted sentence for extortion and racketeering.

W. Mark Felt- Clemency for authorizing FBI agents to break into Vietnam protestors' offices without warrants.

Link: http://boomantribune.com/story/2005/5/31/114735/103

(FYI: I found this at RawStory)


This info is already posted above. Sorry!
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:08 PM
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157. I KNEW IT!
Seriously
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:54 PM
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168. The timing is... interesting
Edited on Tue May-31-05 05:55 PM by ailsagirl
The "breaking news" should be for the DSM. This is nothing compared to that.
:mad:
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:57 PM
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171. Aw.
The X-Files said it was this guy:



Of course, he was gunned down in front of FBI Agent Dana Scully in the early '90s, so I guess Woodward would have identified him following the funeral.
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raggedcompany Donating Member (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 07:01 PM
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172. If I had known yesterday that today I would learn Deep Throat's identity
I would have slept like an 8 year old on Christmas Eve. What a remarkable story. My sincerest gratitude to Mr. Felt for his incredible contribution to freedom based on truth. He will be in my thoughts forever as a great man.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:21 PM
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181. A historical note from the Atlantic. Interesting read
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/199205/mann

Deep Throat: An Institutional Analysis

Twenty years after Watergate we still do not know the identity of the secret source who gave Bob Woodward, of The Washington Post, information that led to the downfall of President Richard Nixon. But the author, a former colleague of Woodward's at the Post, reveals something almost as important about the source, which throws new light on an old scandal


snip


FBI officials were furious. According to Mark Felt, on July 5 three top FBI officials asked for a meeting with Gray to protest White House obstruction of the Watergate investigation. The three were Felt, Charles W. Bates, the assistant director in charge of the FBI's General Investigative Division, and Robert Kunkel, the special agent in charge of the Washington field office, which was conducting the investigation. As Felt recounted in his memoir,


"Look," I told Gray, "the reputation of the FBI is at stake.... We can't delay the Ogarrio interview any longer! I hate to make this sound like an ultimatum, but unless we get a request in writing from Director Helms to forego the Ogarrio interview, we're going ahead anyway....

"That's not all," I went on. "We must do something about the complete lack of cooperation from John Dean and the Committee to Reelect the President. It's obvious they're holding back -- delaying and leading us astray in every way they can....
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D-Notice Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:24 AM
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186. Not everyone
believes it was him...

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2005/06/deep-throat-reveal...

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/05/deep-throat-felt...

Powerful forces at CIA had come to dislike or distrust Nixon for a number of reasons. Not least among those reasons was the prominent role played by Henry Kissinger, considered by James Jesus Angleton (CIA's somewhat unhinged counterintelligence chief) to be nothing less than a Soviet agent.

So...what's the picture now?

1. Many at CIA disliked Nixon.

2. Nixon, not guessing at the level of antipathy, expected CIA to keep a lid on the FBI's investigation, specifically on Mark Felt.

3. Felt was not squelched. Instead, he relayed "insider" White House dope -- which he scooped up from who-knows-where -- to Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. Or so, at least, we are now told.

4. Felt was ambitious; he wanted the top spot at FBI. Whatever he or his family may say now, his tour of duty as "Throat" may well have had a connection to this goal.

Here's another piece of the puzzle: The CIA was, according to Jim Hougan and others, bugging the White House itself. Those eavesdropping devices may have been the real source of Felt's information.


http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/05/more-on-mark-fel...
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:44 PM
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189. Inclined to agree w/you. It's too odd. Timing. Smoke Screen.
Take attention away from "Downing Street Minutes;" maybe... to sway fear into possible whistleblowers.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:40 PM
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190. I'm inclined to agree with xymphora
Deep Throat was a literary invention. Stealing the name Deep Throat from a famous porn movie that was a household name in America at the time, was indeed a brilliant plan on the part of the Wash Post, Bradlee and Graham. The NY Times was the one getting the limelight for breaking the Pentagon Papers, and the other Establishment rag, the Post, wanted a little of that light too. And it got it for awhile. There was even a Washington Post based TV series (the name escapes me, but with Nancy Marchand as Katherine Graham, the hands-on matriarchal type publisher).



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