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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 12:28 PM
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Myers Defends Treatment of Gitmo Prisoners
WASHINGTON - The Pentagon's top general on Sunday defended the treatment of prisoners at the U.S. Navy prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and said the U.S. believes al-Qaida leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is wounded, though it's not known how badly.


Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the U.S. has done a good job of humanely treating detainees. Muslims in several countries have protested in recent weeks about allegations that a Quran was flushed down a toilet at Guantanamo as part of an interrogation of a prisoner.

The human rights group Amnesty International released a report last week calling the prison camp "the gulag of our time."

Myers said that report was "absolutely irresponsible." He said the U.S. was doing its best to detain fighters who, if released, "would turn right around and try to slit our throats, slit our children's throats."

~snip~
more: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050529/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iraq_4
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 12:39 PM
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1. but pictures of Saddam in underwear are 'inappropriate'??????
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Teena Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 12:39 PM
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2. Down da hole...
Remember the huge mouth of a creature, lined with teeth, that looked like a hole in the ground in the second Star Wars movie? I soothe my troubled mind by imagining Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Myers, Rice, Perle, and all the rest of their gang, being pushed into this creature's hungry mouth. Nice image, don't you think? I'd hate to be around when the thing burps, though.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 12:47 PM
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3. Teena, that's absolutely hysterically funny
There is a surgeon at work that I love to picture him in a pink tutu with pink ballet tights. Soothing for me

BTW Welcome to DU:hi:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 12:59 PM
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4. slit our children's throats."--a bit overboard in my book
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 01:20 PM
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5. I bet Myers is Fundie slime.......
besides, why wouldn't they want to slit our throats, given what we've done to their families.....
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 01:46 PM
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6. General Myers historical counterpart was Field Marshal Alfred Jodl
Myers should read up on what happened to Jodl after the defeat of the Third Reich. Bush's Holy American Empire will collapse just as surely as Hitler's Thousand Year Reich did.


General Alfred Jodl.

Sentenced to: Death by hanging

Jodl held high-ranking positions in the Reich starting in 1935, including Chief of Army Operations. Jodl was instrumental in planning the attack on Czechoslovakia as well as Norway, Greece and Yugoslavia. He wrote “The genius of the Fuehrer and his determination not to shun even a World War have again won the victory without the use of force. The hope remains that the incredulous, the weak, and the doubtful people have been converted and will remain that way”.

Jodl and his staff signed numerous documents detailing plans to annihilate people, including the plan to kill Soviet commissars. But the evidence does not show he was involved in the slave labor program.

His defense was that he was an obedient soldier, signing orders only as a command from Hitler. This was not a defense allowed under Article Eight of the Charter, however, and no other mitigation evidence could be offered.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/NurembergIndictments.html#Jodl
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:04 PM
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9. Chilling analogy
"The hope remains that the incredulous, the weak, and the doubtful people have been converted and will remain that way"

Isn't that the reasoning behind "Shock & Awe" as well? I remember Perle and the other neocons arguing that a quick, decisive victory in Iraq would make others "think twice" about threatening American interests.

Didn't work for the Nazis, won't work for the neocons. You can't scare humanity into submission.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:00 PM
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7. "slit our children's throats"
Where the fuck does he get that from? From his own ass, from whence he pulled it out. When has Guantanamo detainees been released only to "slit our children's throats?" Does having been an Arab guerrilla fighter in Afghanistan make one slit our children's throats at random if released? Myers is obviously trying to paint all Guantanamo detainees as uncontrollable maniacal killers who would run around and kill anybody in sight if let loose from their shackles, in order to justify his Gulag.

Interesting that Super-Zarqawi has become "al-Qaida leader". Usama's bin forgotten... So is it Eurasia or Eastasia we have always been fighting against at the moment?
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:03 PM
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8. What would you expect the Chief Jailer of the gulag to say?
I can hardly wait till I see Meyers in the Hague.
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heidler1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:30 PM
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10. This farce of a war over the minds of men rather than OIL needs to be
explained to our leaders. If we are trying to convert the Muslims into lovers of our form of Democracy as advertised, we should try to act the part. It's "hard work" acting.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:44 PM
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11. Myers needs to get better aquainted with procedures at Gitmo.
Have a few foreign objects shoved up his ass.
Be made to grovel naked on the floor. He could then
do a better assessment of how motivated it would make
him feel to help his abusers out with their "intelligence"
issues.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 03:16 PM
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26. Dogs could motivate the General
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:23 PM
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12. They should be charged with crimes and tried, or given POW status
The way that it is now is a Gulag. Maybe it is worse, I think Soviet prisoners at least got a show trial. Keeping people in jail for indefinite periods without being charged and tried goes against every principle of Aglo-American jurisprudence. Doing this to foreign citizens goes against every principle of international law.
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saskatoon Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:01 PM
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13. myers
he is a horse's ass.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:08 PM
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14. I saw that and he is a horse's ass.
I listen to what he said and was shocked. No wonder we screwed up in Vietnam and Iraq with people like him in charge.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:41 PM
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15. General Myers' condoning "the gulag of our time" would seem to confirm
the known humane torture and mistreatment are top down.
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Kenergy Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:35 PM
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16. Myers is a yes man...no balls n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 03:04 PM
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25. He made his name by running phony "Star Wars" tests
He was a subservient lapdog of the corporations under contract to the Strategic Defense Initiative. His "success" got him to where he is at today.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:44 PM
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17. report was "absolutely irresponsible."..sounds like Rummy and his cameras
Rummy blames the cameras and Myers blames the report


Neither care what they both (camera/report) depict....and they don't care because they are both guilty of war crimes.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:47 PM
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18. General Myers was in on the 9-11 MIHOP
He's a mass killer. A war criminal of the worst kind. A traitor so brazen, he actually tried to say that holding war games on 9-11 greatly enhanced their ability to respond to the attacks.

He can't even lie without stuttering like a fool.

Why isn't HE in Guantanamo?

Go figure.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:01 PM
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19. Remind ol' Dick Meyers he works FOR the American people
and we are not pleased with his performance on our behalf.
The Department of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has a pitiful website with the page removed for contacting them. They don't want to hear from the American people. However, there is phone number from a 2004 briefing, and also the DoD contact page.

For any further information please contact the Joint Chiefs of Staff public affairs office, 703-695-7678.


Public contact:
http://www.dod.mil/faq/comment.html
or +1 (703) 428-0711
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:06 PM
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20. Yep, the pukes won't be in power for long with the total fuckups going on.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 09:46 PM
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21. BBC Link
Edited on Sun May-29-05 09:55 PM by Jack Rabbit
From the BBC Online
Dated Monday May 30 01:26 GMT (Sunday 6:26 pm PDT)

US general rejects Amnesty report

Top US general Richard Myers has described an Amnesty International report on Guantanamo Bay as "absolutely irresponsible".

The human rights group last week described the US detention camp in Cuba as "the gulag of our time".

But Gen Myers said the US military treated detainees there humanely.

The Guantanamo Bay camp has been the focus of protests in the Muslim world, after allegations that guards had been disrespectful towards the Koran.

When denoucing the AI Report like this, General Myers, Scott McClellan and other official Bush regime spokesmen have all the moral authority of a Southern governor in the early sixties denoucing the Freedom Riders.


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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 02:15 PM
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22. General slams Amnesty report (we only abused 100 out of 68,000 prisoners)
WASHINGTON -- Gen. Richard B. Myers yesterday condemned as "absolutely irresponsible" an Amnesty International report that compared prisoner treatment at Guantanamo Bay to the Soviet gulag, adding that 100 out of 68,000 detainees held in the war against terrorism were abused.

"It's very small compared to the population of detainees we've handled," said Gen. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He also noted that many of the abuses have produced courts-martial and other punishments.

The London-based human rights organization called the U.S. facility in Guantanamo Bay "the gulag of our time," comparing it to the Soviet Union's slave-labor camps where millions of people died.

Amnesty International also suggested that foreign governments investigate senior U.S. officials involved in "torture scandals" and arrest and question Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, former CIA Director William Tenet, and Vice President Dick Cheney.

"I think it's irresponsible. I think it's absolutely irresponsible," Gen. Myers told "Fox News Sunday."

http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20050530-075659-1938r
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 02:15 PM
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23. What a relief to learn only 100 of 68,000 detainees were abused
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 03:01 PM
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24. Ted Bundy murdered only 50 women out of a possible 100 million
Edited on Mon May-30-05 03:16 PM by rocknation
And he was put to death? Petty petty petty.

:crazy:
rocknation
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