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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:11 AM
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Iraq to launch huge Baghdad raids
More than 40,000 Iraqi soldiers are to be deployed in Baghdad in a massive operation to hunt down insurgents, the Iraqi defence minister has announced.

Saadoun al-Dulaimi said the force would include troops from the interior and defence ministries. Correspondents say it would be by far the largest operation against insurgents in Baghdad by Iraqi forces.

Insurgent attacks on US, Iraqi government and civilian targets, have killed about 600 people in May.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4582615.stm
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:14 AM
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1. Do they actually have 40,000 Iraqi soldiers???
:shrug:
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TheGunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:16 AM
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2. Sure, but after the deserters finish leaving they'll be down to 12.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:34 AM
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43. Only on the payroll
Bet there are a lot of Iraqi equivalents to "John Smith" on that list.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:19 AM
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3. To be known as Operation Ritual Sacrifice. n/t
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:22 AM
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4. Operation Certain Failure!
Edited on Thu May-26-05 06:23 AM by thebigidea
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:11 AM
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10. Operation. Oh Shit!
:(
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:45 AM
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5. Operation Cluster Fuck
The Iraqi Anti-Amerikan Resistance Forces have already melted away to fight another day.

They will round up a few kids and a few old men, and proclaim "success" and then the (40,000 Iraqi soldiers-- LOL ) will scurry back to their holes in their barracks, where they are safe from the people who view them as Quislings.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:47 AM
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6. Can we say Fallujah?!! idiots.
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 07:45 AM
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7. We'll round up twice the number of usual suspects this time
The more things change the more the are the same. This could be a Viet Nam era press release.

And of those 40,000 Iraqi soldiers how many are leaking details of the operation to the insurgents as we speak? And if you want to kill or capture guerrillas why announce the operation before it starts? Hey we'll be going through your neighborhood in a week - just on the q.t. it would be better if you weren't home. No problem. Talk to you later.

fey.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:20 PM
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18. Amazing, isn't it?
The incompetence is so staggering. Their mindset is so rigid, so locked in the Middle Ages, they can't think of any other way of dealing with the Iraqi insurgency.

As the insurgency grows, the Pentagon has meetings to try to decide what to do. They become desperate, they bang their fists on the table, and shout curses every once in a while. There are a lot of shirts with sweat stains under the arms.

In the meantime, we are hemorrhaging money on this venture, which is doomed to fail.

Fools.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:26 PM
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29. That is because their only solutions
are all violent ones.

Maybe if they restored water and electic, policed the streets properly, got the garbage picked up, etc, they wouldn't want to try to kill us all the time?

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:47 AM
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8. oh boy-- an ARVN operation....
Maybe it'll work this time. :banghead:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:51 AM
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45. An ARVN operation--- saw several of those
Edited on Fri May-27-05 05:52 AM by saigon68
The Colonel in charge of the regiment sent about 100 of his troops into the jungle. They immediately called for airstrikes and Arty. After blowing the FUCK out of the jungle for a few hours they pulled out-- declared 150 KIA and went back to their barracks. The colonel prepared an after action report and was praised bu JUSMAGV.



THE AMERICANS CONTINUED TO SEND A SUBSIDY TO THE COLONEL. for the 500 troops he said he had, BUT REALLY DIDN'T AS THEY WERE "PAPER" troops 50% went to the "PAPER" troops and half of the rest went personally into the Colonel's pocket. The other 25% was doled out grudgingly to the remaining troops.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:09 AM
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9. Yeah, sure.
THIS won't happen, but it sure sounds like "civil war" to me.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:13 AM
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11. Iraqi Troops to Lock Down Baghdad: WaPo...
Yeah that'll work! :eyes:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/26/AR2005052600315.html

"We will also impose a concrete blockade around Baghdad, like a bracelet around an arm, God willing, and God be with us in our crackdown on the terrorists' infrastructure. No one will be able to penetrate this blockade," Dulaimi said.

"You will witness unprecedentedly strict security measures."

"These operations will aim at turning the government's role from defensive to offensive," Jabr said.

Meanwhile on Thursday, at least 10 Iraqis died in violence nationwide, including a child.

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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:17 AM
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12. operation desperation
june should be an interesting month
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:28 AM
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13. "Operation Fuel Civil War" nt
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:30 AM
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14. Operation "Let the ragheads do the dying" n/t
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:34 AM
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15. Operation Something For The US Media Whores To Report
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:05 AM
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16. Everybody they kill will
become an insurgent.
Just like every person they killed in Vietnam was VC.
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:27 AM
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17. Oh wow, what progress!!!
After 2+ years, 1650+ American casualties, 100,000+ Iraqi civilian casualties, and 175 trillion dollars, and we're still trying to control Baghdad. Oh, things are going real well...
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:34 PM
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Yea, once Iraqi soldiers get to Baghdad, they will turn around shoot
Edited on Thu May-26-05 12:38 PM by Rainscents
at Americans... I read many times, over and over, once the Iraqi Soldiers had been trained, instead going after insurgents, they're using their new skill on Americans.
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ConfuZed Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:34 PM
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19. New Iraq Security Cordon to Ring Baghdad
BAGHDAD - The government said Thursday a security cordon of 40,000 Iraqi soldiers and police will ring Baghdad starting next week in what it dubbed Operation Lightning, aimed at halting a spree of insurgent violence that has killed more than 620 people thi...

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/iraq
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:37 PM
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20. let the geoncide begin
renounce allah and accept jesus or we'll know you're one of those bad muslims.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:42 PM
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21. You can't make up this shit. How many miles of perimeter do they have
to guard? And that assumes that all 40,000 troups are:
a. going to stay on the job and not desert when the shooting starts.
b. well trained and equipped.
c. loyal and not actually actively assisting the insurgents.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:47 PM
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22. More blood spilled for American corporations.
It's pure evil, and pure insanity. We should NEVER have started this war, and I blame ALL republicans for it. It started with stealing the election in Florida, then the bush administration letting 9/11 happen so they could justify war without end, and even get the democrats to go along with it, by lying to everyone. But that is all the republicans do...lie. Well, no: they cheat, steal, and kill, too.

This is a republican war, for republican corporations, for a republican administration, paid for by hard working American taxpayers -- taxpayers whose votes are counted by republican computers.

:argh: They are all insane. Republicans need to be outlawed.

:kick::kick::kick:

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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:17 PM
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35. It was hard work getting this war
"Whatever it takes" used to be the CIC's favorite phrase (before Abu Ghraib, anyway). Course, we can call him the evil incompetent that he is because we're not at war. Why, if we were at war people would be saying you have to be quiet and be loyal. But since we turned the corner on this mission accomplished and are only there because WE WERE INVITED, you can call these insane Republican warmongering shitheads anything you want.

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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:09 PM
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23. Iraqi Security Crackdown (Baghdad)-BBC MUST LISTEN TO -4 minutes
Edited on Thu May-26-05 02:02 PM by Gloria
Heard this report on the World Service this AM. Huge crackdown involving checkpoints in Baghdad....reporter calls it "desperate" because Baghdad is so close to full scale civil war....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/ondemand/rams/nh21290___2005.ram



Newshour


Last updated: 26 May, 2005 - Published 15:20 GMT




Iraqi security crackdown

The Iraqi government has announced another big security operation in Baghdad, involving 40,000 Iraqi police and troops. Regular visitor to Iraq Robert Fox, of the Evening Standard, assesses the impact of repeated security operations.


Here is the main page with the story and the audio...however, it might disappear soon since NewsHour is broadcasts several times during the day. You can save the file to disk.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/newshour/
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:09 PM
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24. The Iraqi Resistance like ELVIS, has "Left the Building"
They Won't be back for a while
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:09 PM
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25. When I saw the headline regardin the Baghdad security crackdown
Edited on Thu May-26-05 01:28 PM by Spazito
I knew immediately the bush cabal is in crisis mode, if Baghdad erupts anymore than it already has, they will not be able to pull the wool over ANYONE'S eyes regarding the complete mess they have made.

Edited to add: Thanks for the link, it is good to hear honest reporting!
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:12 PM
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26. Operation Flop
The "insurgents" will just move to another area.

I wonder who will really be "rooted out"? Operation Fascist Regime.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:28 PM
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30. Bu$h doesn't want to win
That's what most people can't understand. We are not dealing with rational humans, we are dealing with blood thirsty murderers. The more death and destruction that results the better from their POV.

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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:17 PM
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27. that might be enough to secure the road to the airport...
but maybe not. If Baghdad erupts it's going to be total Civil War.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:23 PM
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28. That's what the BBC reporter in this clip is warning about....
he says it's extemely "worrying" in that understated way some British reporters have...

The report also discussed how we didn't know what was going on on the ground before we started this---the groups...He says there are something like 76 different groups fighting....and forget foreign fighters, there are very few....
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:29 PM
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31. Operation "Put on a show for Bush"
It will probably be a big show, or a cover for an actual U.S. operation. The latter are probably less and less appreciated by most Iraqis.
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74dodgedart Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:57 PM
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32. Kinda of like 'Escape From New York'
"We will also impose a concrete blockade around Baghdad, like a bracelet around an arm, God willing. No-one will be able to penetrate this blockade," Mr Dulaimi said.

They are turning Bagdahd into one large prison..Freddom is on the March and it's crushing everything in its path.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:02 PM
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33. 40,000 Iraqis to Form Shield in Baghdad
Edited on Thu May-26-05 06:04 PM by Tom Yossarian Joad
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq announced plans Thursday to deploy 40,000 police and soldiers in the capital and ring the city with hundreds of checkpoints "like a bracelet" in the largest show of Iraqi force since the fall of Saddam Hussein.

In a reminder of the difficulty Iraqi security forces face in stopping insurgent attacks, violence claimed at least 15 lives Thursday in Baghdad including a car bomb that exploded near a police patrol, killing five people and wounding 17.

Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari told a small group of Western reporters that next week's planned crackdown, dubbed Operation Lightning, was designed "to restore the initiative to the government." Insurgents have killed more than 620 people since his government was announced on April 28.

"We will establish, with God's help, an impenetrable blockade surrounding Baghdad like a bracelet surrounds a wrist," Defense Minister Saadoun al-Duleimi said.
http://www.montrosepress.com/articles/2005/05/26/ap/headlines/d8ab4cu01.txt


LOL... You beat me to it, mods!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:17 PM
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40. And now for the next performance by the Key Stone Kops
Operation Lightning
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:14 PM
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34. Operation Sitting Duck.....
Let's put 40,000 troops out there in full view to act as targets. Kinda reminiscent of the RedCoats. The Sons of Liberty will take care of them. What a 'revolutionary' idea to act as a catalyst for a 'civil' war.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 07:03 PM
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38. Yep, or operation "Turkey Shoot".
40000 troops standing around waiting to be attacked with car bombs.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:22 PM
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36. And what's this concrete perimeter going to cost you and me?
Are they going to write this off too? Meanwhile, the US and Iraqi infrastructure continues to rot away. Another gw shithead false move.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:30 PM
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37. Insugency thanks the Iraqi Govt. for the heads up.
They will move out and spread themselves thin for a couple of weeks and then return. This is a joke, right?
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:23 PM
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42. I could find no more details.
Are they actually going to build a concrete wall around Baghdad? A real concrete wall?

..."We will also impose a concrete blockade around Baghdad, like a bracelet around an arm, God willing. No-one will be able to penetrate this blockade," Mr Dulaimi said...

I can't believe they are going to wall in the city.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 07:19 PM
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39. Baghdad Ghetto




more to come......
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:51 PM
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41. I love how they announce this $hit.
Ready or not, HERE WE COME!!!!
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:47 AM
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44. Don't you just love the smell of democracy in the morning?
More from the Cincy Enquirer...
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ?SITE=OHCIN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

"More than 40,000 Iraqi police and soldiers, backed by American troops and air support, will set up hundreds of checkpoints, raid houses and search vehicles as part of Operation Lightning, Iraqi's interior and defense ministers announced Thursday."
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