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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:22 AM
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Rove: Bolton will be confirmed; judges
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-04-25-karl...

Rove: Bolton will be confirmed; judges deserve vote
By Judy Keen, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON Karl Rove rejected a compromise with Senate Democrats Monday on long-stalled nominations for the federal judiciary and strongly defended President Bush's choice of John Bolton to be ambassador to the United Nations. (Audio: Rove speaks out)

In an hour-long interview with USA TODAY and Gannett News Service reporters and editors, Rove, deputy White House chief of staff, dismissed suggestions from Democrats that they might drop threats to use filibusters to prevent votes on Bush's judicial nominees if the president would withdraw a few of the most controversial names.

"I think that would be a worthwhile compromise," Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., said Monday. "We're willing to talk about a way of ending this impasse," said Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

Bush wants votes on seven federal judge nominees who were blocked in the last session of Congress. The filibuster allows 41 senators to block action on the Senate floor. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., has said he's prepared to change the rules to ban filibusters against judicial nominees. Such a tactic would alter Senate tradition and could bring Senate business to a halt. Reid and other Democrats have threatened to retaliate by slowing or blocking all but the most vital legislation.

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:23 AM
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1. I'm itching for life and circumstance to bring Rove down a few notches.
Who does he think he is? King of the world?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:29 AM
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4. yup he does-and he likes playing King-and hardball. We can not
count any chicks yet.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:31 AM
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6. Who is gonna stop him?
"Frist, Reid Work on Judge-Approval Deal"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=512&nci...
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Pinboy Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:25 AM
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23. ROVE rejected the deal?????????
Is he (an unelected government appointee) pulling the strings of the United States Senate????????
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 08:15 AM
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33. He's been running the presidency.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:24 AM
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37. Is it just me????
Every time I see Rove, I hear the banjo theme from Deliverance and pig noises....maybe I need to get my dose increased, or move to a blue state.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:38 PM
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46. No, your vision is commonplace. You are perfectly sane.
I just want to see the little piggy get eaten by the big, bad wolf.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:27 AM
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2. "Karl Rove rejected a compromise ..."
Who the fuck is he to reject anything? ROVE WASN'T ELECTED BY ANYONE!!! :grr:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:30 AM
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5. I could not have said it better
I relish the day when that little hitler gets thrown on his fat ass

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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:39 AM
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9. Yes exactly - that is an AMAZING STATEMENT. Illegal??? Must be!
If it's really true that ROVE is the one that rejected this legislative compromise, that is surely a breach of law. He is a dirty-tricks slimeball with no legal authority over such things at all.

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BadNews Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:51 PM
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40. Republican Explanation: Rove is speaking for Shrub
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 03:52 PM by BadNews
Don't take the title too literally.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:40 AM
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17. True; but then neither was Bush.
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nine30 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 07:54 AM
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32. They are taking the lead from Rush
Just yesterday afternoon Rush said..No Compromises or it would set a dangerous precedent for the Republicans for the future. And lo and behold, hours later "Rove rejects.." a compromise.

This has happened on more than one occassion. Rush says something, the Repubs follow suit the next day or the very same.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:04 PM
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39. I think it is vice-versa - Rush gets his talking points from Rove
Rove tells Rush what to say, then Rush tells his listeners what to think.
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nine30 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:19 PM
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45. The way it works...
I think the truth is somewhere in between. I have read this elsewhere too.

Rove comes up with an idea..tells Rush what to say. Rush blares into his Golden EIB mike the same day and prepares his listeners.

Rove takes the step, and the following day Rush tells his audience..'see I told you so'.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:40 PM
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47. And then Cheney appears on the Rush Limbaugh show to say Thanks. . .eom
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Zerex71 Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:36 AM
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38. That was my immediate reaction.
WTF does he think he is?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:54 PM
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49. To my knowledge, he wasn't even confirmed by anyone
"Senior Adviser to the President" isn't a Cabinet position or even something like White House Chief of Staff. There is no accountability there whatsoever.

For that matter, Bush** could've picked Guckert or Gannon or whatever he's calling himself this week. And who's to say he won't someday?
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:58 PM
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50. Yes, I heard Senator Reid say that he was in the Senate today
Karl Rove in the Senate??

WHO the Heck does he think he is anyway?
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:29 AM
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3. They feel they have an ace?
A new Trifecta? Lazy arrogant and totally prepared to capitalize on what people can't even discuss or concentrate on. The next terrorist attack brought about by the deliberate cheapness and irresponsibility of the administration.
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MontageOfFreedom Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:33 AM
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7. Will wonders never cease.
Even when all the polls are against him, Karl Rove is confidant that the axe will fall.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:34 AM
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8. Last month he said that they would pass the Social Security
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 12:55 AM by The_Casual_Observer
deal. Looks like he has "moved on" to some other losers. Is three the charm you motherfucker? Eat shit & die.

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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:48 AM
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10. OOO here he is.......
:hide: UH OH.... Karls out!!

I truly wonder about this regime. Are they so crafty, they have it fixed and this is why they are so cocky? Are they as stupid as they look? They are the human rhuebic's cube. Human puzzles, the lot of them.

Hey, and if we are all the "same" color, according to them, ya win!






Oh how I don't like them. :grr:
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 07:32 AM
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30. welcome to DU!
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:47 PM
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48. If they do this it means the election machinery is TRULY FIXED
I have been thinking this for a while. If they go with the nuclear option on filibusters it means they truly know/believe that they have control of the Electronic Voting Technology. They can't possibly be contemplating this unless they are 99.44% certain they will never again lose control of the Senate.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:54 AM
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11. Just found this little piece of information
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 01:17 AM by cal04
I'm assuming this is a freeper site. I got here by What Really Happened

*UPDATE* - TERRIFIC NEWS!!!! New information into Move America Forward officials confirms that Senator Voinovich is taking a 'new' and 'fair' look at John Bolton - the man President Bush has nominated to serve as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations. We are confident Senator Voinovich will vote 'YES' to allow Mr. Bolton's nomination to proceed from the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. MAF's principals are not at liberty to disclose who they've heard from and specifically what was said - under promise of confidentiality - but the organization is now confident that John Bolton's nomination will make it to the floor for a vote by the full U.S. Senate.

http://www.moveamericaforward.com/index.php/DailyFile/
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:12 AM
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12. Sent the enforcers in to have a word with Voinovich, I take it? nt
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:24 AM
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14. I watched that meeting live and when Voinovich jumped ship I remember
thinking that Rove's head must be about to explode. Karl Rove starring in Scanners!! Can you imagine dealing with those ruthless sobs? Nothing is sacred, they are complete bullies. They severely punish anyone who does not fall in line with their policies. If it were me I would tell them yes to get them off my back and then do what I wanted to do. OOPs did I say I would vote yes...must have slipped my mind.
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MontageOfFreedom Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 06:06 AM
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26. Says alot about the Roveness of Rove. They must be so happy. n/t
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:45 AM
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15. Does Rove threaten to castrate these guys or what?
In the case of too many Democrats I can think of, that threat has already come true.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:17 AM
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13. thereby proving Rove is one big f***ing dick
what a sorry turd he is
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:01 AM
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16. Karl Rove our president?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:49 AM
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25. .....and organized crime keeps up all in line with lies and strong arm
tactics.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:47 AM
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18. Are there any moderate Republicans who might vote against Bolton?
Is this an issue that the Democrats can use the filibuster against?

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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:04 AM
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19. Why compromise with BushCo at all?
Sigh. You'd think after being walked all over for the past five years, the Democratic Party would get it.

There's no margin in trying to avoid fighting these fascists. Don't offer them compromises.

Fight!
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:26 AM
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20. Oh my god!

"I think that would be a worthwhile compromise," Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., said Monday.

I love the man and I loathe him all at the same time. Dear Sen. Byrd, what are you saying?

"COMPROMISE" ---- WTF!

Dear sir, you have rendered me speechless.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:04 PM
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42. HELLOOOO! Reid Now Gets To Say Dems Were Willing To Work Something Out
honestly.
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:39 AM
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21. No Compromise!
talk about Republican-lite, now we're even talking to the Republican leadership about vote trade-offs the way moderate Republicans do.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:13 AM
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22. I think Rove has shown what compromise with fascists gets you.
remember when they compromised with Hitler? what was the result?
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:31 AM
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24. Giving Reid et al the benefit of a doubt
Maybe they counted on the war criminals in the White House refusing their deal.

That way if they have to pull thier Senate walkout they can say--hey we tried the Republicans are not willing to compromise.

That could give them the high ground going in.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 07:08 AM
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28. Yes - maneuvering so the rethugs look unreasonable. And what's
with the "hour-long interview" KKKarl gave? That's a lot of talking points! Is it a sign of nervousness?
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 06:08 AM
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27. The appointment of Bolton will lead to war
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 06:10 AM by teryang
...and war will lead to the ultimate collapse of the alliance that has taken over our country.

It is both a tragedy and a blessing that the people in power are too dumb to see the error of their ways. This is a dictatorship and we are watching the last gasps of the remnants of constitutional government which has been beaten virtually to death since November 2004.
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 08:19 AM
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34. They can't see that
triangulation doesn't work these days. We're not playing with fair people. We are dealing with facists.


http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/588704
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 07:08 AM
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29. Rove...
...shouldn't his sorry ass have dropped dead of a heart attack by now?
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woosh Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 07:38 AM
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31. "I'm in charge" -Alexander Haig
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 08:28 AM
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35. We have NO say in OUR country...How did this happen?


ANSWER:IGNORANT AMERICANS (easily manipulated), the majority.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 08:36 AM
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36. Achtung! You VILL confirm Herr Strap-on!
Now shut up and get back to work!

What a mean little cur Rove is.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:59 PM
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41. The compromise offer was a smart move.
Now, the Dems can say they tried to work something out and the Republicans refused to be reasonable. When Frist goes on with the nuclear option and the Dems stall the Senate, they have this to back them up.

And, why is a Deputy Chief of Staff running shit, anyway?
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BadNews Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:09 PM
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43. Yet everyday Americans refuse to wake up. Apathy is Rampant
This is why the Repukes will continue domination. Most people think you are a Kook if you claim the '04 elections were rigged.

In general, they see Repukes doing what 51% of the country elected them to do. (sorry, these people are casual voters who go to the polls on election night then try to forget about politics.) I've heard more than one person ask what I would expect a party that controls both houses of congress and the presidency to do. Their answer is that they would expect that party to implement the policies they were advocating during the campaign.

One conservative (libertarian) told me that if the people of the country did not want republicans to implement these things, at least one of the houses of congress, or the presidency would be controlled by Dems.

I predict it will take another * war, a depression, or the overturn of Roe Vs Wade for the masses to awaken. America has to take a hit in the wallet or see how they are effected on a personal level before they act. For that reason, I think only rising gas prices are something that the American public is paying attention to. If prices go down for any reason, they will say the economy is doing better. People are so easily led around by those in office due to their apathy.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:31 PM
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44. Little Karl wants to fight
and for once, I think the Democrats are willing to slip on the brass knuckles.
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