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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:18 AM
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Man Sells Device That Blocks Fox News
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 01:22 AM by truthpusher

Friday, March 25, 2005 11:05 PM MST
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Man Sells Device That Blocks Fox News
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By EMILY FREDRIX
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It's not that Sam Kimery objects to the views expressed on Fox News. The creator of the "Fox Blocker" contends the channel is not news at all. Kimery figures he's sold about 100 of the little silver bits of metal that screw into the back of most televisions, allowing people to filter Fox News from their sets, since its August debut.


the "Fox Blocker"

The Tulsa, Okla., resident also has received thousands of e-mails, both angry and complimentary _ as well as a few death threats.

"Apparently the making of terroristic threats against those who don't share your views is a high art form among a certain core audience," said Kimery, 45.

(snip)

Kimery's motives go deeper than preventing people from watching the channel, which he acknowledges can be done without the Blocker. But he likens his device to burning a draft card, a tangible example of disagreement.

And he's taking this message to the network's advertisers. After buying the $8.95 device online, would-be blockers are shown a letter that they can send to advertisers via the Fox Blocker site.



complete story: http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2005/03/26/ap/...

Fox Blocker Site: http://mambo.foxblocker.com/
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:21 AM
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1. he needs to add CNN and MSNBC
Call it a bullshit filter.
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Joz Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:26 AM
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3. Don't agree
CNN/MSNBC are way more balanced. Nothing compares to the ass of fox news. MSNBC are the only ones who reported about potential election fraud in the 2004 election.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:31 AM
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5. Agree with you
Let's get rid of Faux news, then we work on getting rid of any pale imitation. Prioritize.


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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #3
34. not balanced at all
maybe there are other definitions? I would rather watch FOX do their kneepad coverage than CNN or MSNBC transcribing in drag.
SUPPORT THE TRUTH-OUTLAW CORPORATE MEDIA
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:17 PM
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61. please msnbc and cnn are pure unadulturated propaganda
they throw in items now and then to make you think they are critical. Worthless at best. Actually treasonous is a better description.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #61
98. but all news does, hell my local one does it all the time! eom
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #3
67. That's like saying Herpes and the Clap are better than AIDS.
Frankly, I'd rather not have any of them, but if I had to catagorize them based on which one's most likely to be fatal....

Fox is Pure Shit.
CNN is "Shit Lite"
And MSNBC's ONLY saving grace is Keith O. Take him away and they're pretty shitty, too, with Tweety and Joe the Lori-Killer.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #67
81. Umm . . . Herpes and the Clap ARE better than AIDS
As in "discomfort is better than death."
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #81
84. But if i didn't WANT to have discomfort?
Back in the swingin' '70's, before AIDS was discovered, the absolutely WORST thing that could happen to a swinging dude or dudette was to get cold sores on the naughty bits.

Now, it wouldn't seem like a big thing, comparatively.

But again, Saying CNN is better than FAUX is like saying catching one disease is better than another disease.

Not catching ANY disease is not an option?
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #84
91. Sadly, disease is part of the human condition . . .
You can practice good hygiene, but at some point, something's going to get you.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:49 AM
Response to Reply #91
97. That's Bullshit.
MILLIONS of people live full lives and go to their dirt-nap without EVER contracting AIDS, the Clap, Syph, Herpes, HPV, etc.

Same thing goes for MSM "News". Millions live full lives without ever having to hear the bullshit Blitzer and Novacula lay out on us.

they live in countries with non-corporate-owned media.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #97
99. Yeah, uh-huh . . .
And they never experience a cold, the flu, acne, athlete's foot, heart disease, cancer, gout, goiter, gingivitis, etc., etc., etc.

Bullshit ya back.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #99
100. Double-Bullshit YOU back!
So, I'm being specific with STD's and YOU change the debate by opening it up to ALL disease...

It escapes me right now, but I'm sure there's a name for THAT dishonest debate tactic.

Double-Bullshit on you!
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #100
101. I believe I said "disease is a part of the human condition . . ."
Not "STDs are a part of the human condition."

Although STDs ARE a part of the human condition. Ask sexually active women whether they've ever had a yeast infection. Or more to the point, ask them whether they've NEVER had a yeast infection.

Be careful how you ask, however, 'cause you're likely to get your face slapped.
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #101
109. HEY!
:mad:
SLAP!
:eyes:
i've never had a yeast infection, who's asking? who wants to be slapped?
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #109
120. Yeah, that's exactly why I suggested the other guy . . .
Do the asking.
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #120
127. oh you guys
you're gonna get it. :crazy:
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:50 AM
Response to Reply #67
95. "Joe the Lori-Killer"? (n/t)
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #95
103. Joe Scarborough. Google is Your Friend. eom
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #103
105. Sloppy Joe dip and Lori's killer banana bread pudding?
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #105
106. Here's the benefit of a doubt....
You being a Probate, and all that. I dunno, I SUPPOSE you could be that inept at conducting a simple Google search...

Google "Lori Klausutis".



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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #106
107. 
is 'tude something that comes with 1000+ posts, or is just the beauty of you? On behalf of those of us unaware of Lori Klausutis, thanks.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #107
108. That's just beautiful me.
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 04:05 PM by BiggJawn
What do you expect, giving me "Sloppy Joe dip and Lori's killer banana bread pudding?" in response to my suggestion to Google. Is that the "tude" that comes with falling off the banana truck last week, or is it "just the beauty of you"?

An INTELLIGENT person would have tried to put 2+2 together, perhaps maybe googling "Joe Scarbourgh+Lori"...

But NO-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O!

You gotta be a cute-ass and come back with "Sloppy Joe dip and Lori's killer banana bread pudding?"

And I'm supposed to give up the customary "Welcome to DU"?

Just be happy I didn't bust a "FReep Alert" cap on your ass.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 05:59 PM
Response to Reply #108
113. After "Google is Your Friend"...
I decided I wanted the answer to come from you. Thanks againall I knew of Scarborough was former R congressman from Florida and Ken-doll blowhard on cable "news".

Can't say my ass has ever been capped (FReep-style, that is...), but I am intrigued. Guess my little gold star doesn't count for much...sniff. :-(
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #113
122. No it doesn't.
Your gold star, that is.
anybody can scrape up $5.
So you decided you wanted the answer to come from ME?

Why? You think I was just "blowing shit" or something?

BTW, did you EVER look up the odd circumstances of the passing of Lori Klasutis, or are you still "waiting for the answer to come from me?"


I'm not gonna spoon-feed you, oh, no....
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:04 AM
Response to Reply #122
125. No spoons, eh? Howzabout tubes? ;-)
Thanks to the magic of the Internets, I know all that I care to know about Joe Scarborough and Ms. Klausutis. Why that no-talent was rewarded with an hour-long cable infotainment show, however, is another story.

It's been a pleasure...
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:42 AM
Response to Reply #125
126. We are in agreement on THAT, for sure...
Isn't it odd...He resigns from Congress to "spend more time with his family", yet I wonder how much time he spends away from them doing that show? Hmmmmm? Enquiring minds would like to know...

"magic of the internets"... :-)

Well, have fun here.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #126
129. Thank you, I am! Now this mystifies me...
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 01:15 PM by TWriterD
Jon Stewart rips Phucker Carlson a new one, CNN does one thing right and cancels Crossfire, but MSNBC rewards Carlson by giving him his own show. It'll be fun to watch who among the night-time "bloviaters" ('tors?) will have the lowest ratings (Olbermann excepted). Too bad they couldn't have given an hour to oh, say, Amy Goodman. A vast number of Americans wouldn't know what hit them - an hour of intelligent, professional, thoughtful news/discussion. Sigh.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #129
130. I wonder how Olbermann's numbers are?
And if they're high, would the suits in the suites figure out what's going on, or would they keep repeating "oh, he has a big fan base from when he did sports on Fox" over and over to make themselves believe it.

Where can I hear Amy these days? I miss her since Radio for Peace International got raided and shut down.

The Neo-Cons have a long arm, to reach all the way to costa Rica like that...
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #130
131. Let's see...
you're in the Hoosier State?:

http://democracynow.org/stations.pl?state=IN&op=search

I think Olbermann's ratings fall somewhere in between worse than O'Lielly's but better than Scarborough's. MSNBC overall doesn't seem to be faring very well (third place?); perhaps they should just stop with the Faux-lite BS and be the Air America of cable "news."
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:38 AM
Response to Reply #131
132. Ahh, nothing near me, unfortunately.
I had thought that BS-RNC had some hope when they brought Phil out of retirement, but I felt that somehow the show wasn't really under Donahue's control.

And Democracy Now has no outlets near me. My local National PUTSCH Radio outlet is wanting to raise 120 kilobucks in their Spring beg-a-thon. Wonder how much they would want to switch to Pacifica? :-)
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avenueb Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #1
62. cnn is hobbible
there's nothing worthwhile watching on there, and yes they lean far right.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:22 AM
Response to Original message
2. LOL. CNN is talking about this.
I'm sure they will continue to talk about it at every opportunity.
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:27 AM
Response to Original message
4. Good idea,
but I never leave my set on Fuax for more than a second or two...
starts gettin' real warm an' these dark clouds form behind the tv.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:35 AM
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6. LOL! Leave it to a bunch of freepers to call in death threats!
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:46 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. Whattayamean Freepers?
It's the government making the threats. They're scared people are thinking for theirselves now and breaking free of State-sponsored TV.

We report, you comply is their motto.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:40 AM
Response to Reply #8
13. We report, you comply
Looking at Faux.

Is like looking in an outdoor toilet after a Lions club "Bean Feed"


has resulted in massive Diarrhea attacks for 2 or 3 hundred people.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #13
23. bwahaha! coffee spew! n/t
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 06:49 AM by ima_sinnic
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 06:01 AM
Response to Reply #8
21. More like "We distort, you comply".
NT!

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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:43 AM
Response to Original message
7. Just bought mine.
Mostly to send a message.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:06 AM
Response to Reply #7
25. Same here.
I love the symbolism. Great idea.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #7
42. Why not put it on as many tvs as you can just to send the message?
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 10:37 AM by LiberalFighter
I don't mean buy more... after the message has been sent find another tv to install it on.

It might even send another message if it is reinstalled on the same tv.

To make it easier to install on other tvs or reinstall on same tv you should buy adapters that allow the connection to slip on instead of screw on.
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #7
43. I've got one, it's called a remote control
Why enrich this guy's bank account for a "message"? Who is getting the message besides his checkbook?

Sorry, as funny as it seems that he actually did this, I'm too much of a tightwad :)
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #43
72. This guy is doing yeoman's work. He should be supported.
Advertisers understand that if people are willing to fork over $10 to make a point, they are passionate and resolute.

This guy has a vested interest in getting as much publicity as he can. He needs financial resources for that effort. By so doing, he draws attention to the atrocity known as Fox "News."

We are obligated to support him in this effort. We must be collectively willing to put our money where our mouths are.
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #72
77. That is ridiculous
He invented something completely unnecessary and will make a bundle on it because you and others like you think it's a "cause". Who is being served by this? Most of us just keep the channel elsewhere.

Do you think what he did is actually going to effect anything? It's the same as buying a Pet Rock.

If you want to make a difference, put that money toward a good candidate in the upcoming Senatorial elections.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #77
78. A person who unknowingly (there are a lot of them)....
...who unknowingly watches Fox because the find it more 'entertaining' than the other channels, may read the article and start looking at the station more objectively. That's the point - this guy may recover costs - he will not get rich.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #78
80. Right you are. And even if the guy were to get rich...
what does that say about how much others believe FAUX is a decrepit pox upon the media?
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #78
86. Huh?
Are you going to sneak into everyone's house and install one of these? The only people who would buy one aren't going to watch it anyway.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #77
79. You are utterly uninformed about economics.
Get a clue about the real world before you start calling the considered opinions of others "ridiculous."

I've been in business for 30+ years and own a successful ad agency. I can tell you that what this guy is doing will have an impact.

Since you obviously didn't read with a mind to grasp what I wrote earlier, I'll say it again. The devise itself is unimportant. Everybody knows that. It's a JOKE. What IS important is that people are willing to pay $10 to participate in the joke. And what's even MORE important is that this guy will profit by promoting his joke in the media which will have the effect of spreading the joke. Get it?



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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 05:59 PM
Response to Reply #79
85. If anyone pays $10.00 for this the joke is on them.
I have quite a clue in the real world. I am a business owner also. This is a perfect example of the saying that "a fool and his money are soon parted" Selling something completely unnecessary only makes the seller and the buyer look foolish.

The guy gets some publicity, fools are parted from their cash. Who is to say the people sending in their money don't need it more than he does? What will they do with it when they get it home? Put it on their TV set that they won't be turning to FOX news anyway? As the teenagers say....duh....
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #85
90. The joke right now is on anybody who can't figure out the point.
The point is not to buy something! Don't you understand after all these posts on this thread? The point is not the value of a product.

There's an old saw about how some businessmen know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

It's not about the price of the objects he's selling. It's about the value of the publicity he's generating.

The items are so absurdly redundant and amount to such overkill that the fact that people will go along with the joke by buying one is a significant indicator of the level of their detestation of FAUX.

That makes news. It makes intriguing news. And the unmistakable point the person reading, hearing or watching this story comes away with is what? Think! That's right, they come away with the lesson that FAUX must be pretty damn bad for people to go to those kinds of extremes to make sure the station never darkens their TV set.

The joke is not on the buyer. A person who makes such a claim is without humor and without understanding. The joke is on FAUX.
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #90
92. Sorry
I have a great sense of humor and am intelligent enough to not throw my cash away. If you want to throw your cash at something like this go ahead, you can keep it with your Pet Rock.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #92
111. Any 'sense of humor' of those ridiculing others for laughing along w/this
...is Calvinistic, indeed.

I feel sorry for you.

Perhaps with all the money you accumulate, they'll put a nice big stone on top of your grave.
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #111
124. I never ridiculed anyone laughing along at this.
It's one thing to laugh along, another to shell out your hard earned cash for something you don't need.

Don't put words in my mouth and don't waste your pity on me. I'm quite happy I just enjoy spending my money on things like spoiling my grandaughter or adding to her college fund.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #90
115. You mean like the publicty he generated when he debuted the thing..
...last summer?

I saw how many DUers swore they would buy the thing and they guy has sold about 100. So he's got beer money.

More effective is what has been going on with people writing FoxNews advertisers and the like. Sometimes it feels like a dutch boy and the dike in terms of one dropping out and another stepping in but it makes more sense than this.

I don't begrudge DUers buying this product but I fail to see its impact beyond an already ravenously anti-FoxNews crowd.

"That's right, they come away with the lesson that FAUX must be pretty damn bad for people to go to those kinds of extremes to make sure the station never darkens their TV set."

The same could be said of the many, many derisions of FoxNews in various forms of pop culture from the Simpsons to SNL to the Daily Show.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #115
116. Yes. Right! Same could be said of all those things. The more the merrier!
There is no single silver bullet that does the job. All these things help. So they guy made $8,000. If he keeps making news, it's worth every penny.

Jeeze, what a bunch of cheepskates on this site!
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #85
94. People spend $4 for a Starbuck's coffee
I don't think that the $10 is such a big deal. How much money do people spend on all sorts of novelty items? Obviously the people who buy the item are probably not going to watch FOX in the first place, unless they are trying to prevent other family members from watching.
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Don1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #77
93. Tightwad here, too.
You might be right about the adults in the house who have self-control as well as a remote control. But what about the kids? Think about it. It's like an analogy to the V-chip. It's like disallowing your kids from being brainwashed when you're not around. I don't disrespect the parents who don't want their kids being brainwashed.

On the other hand, I am a tightwad, too. I am not going to buy it. And when it comes to propaganda, I let my kids know what the facts are. I have to be their filter and I have to teach them how to figure out things for themselves.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:49 AM
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9. Damn, I loved to stick one on the cafeteriaTV at work!
Some aholes where I work always seem to have the big screen tuned to Faux. I'd love to screw one on but I'd get fired if caught.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:23 AM
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32. the other day I was watching MSNBC in the cafeteria at work
a couple of guys at a nearby table asked me if I would mind switching it to FOX and I told them no thanks, I prefer not to listen to propaganda.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:32 PM
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64. The neighborhood bank had Pox "news" on its TVs all the time.
Sometimes I complained. Sometimes it made a difference and sometimes it didn't. Not long ago I came in and saw it was on MSNBC. It's remained that way for awhile now. I went to the manager and thanked them, saying I noticed they didn't have it on Pox anymore and I was relieved. He said they changed it because there were complaints. I suspect it wasn't just me. They don't often do much when it's just one lone person complaining.
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 05:59 PM
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68. BB&T
Hi, am pretty new to the list but thought I'd add my two cents. I got the BB&T to put their lobby tv to CNN....a 'little bit' of improvement upon faux. My practice is across the street and I guess they decided to change their evil ways. I'm not sure if others also complained. This is North Carolina Piedmont and right in the crazy bible belt.
rw
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:53 PM
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74. Howdy drduffy
we do what we can, I suppose. :D
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:03 PM
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75. You'd be surprised how much effect one person can have. It might
have been primarily you, especially if you did it several times and to different people.

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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:55 AM
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10. The whole idea is silly
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 01:55 AM by Whoa_Nelly
Anyone with cable or dish can block simply by blocking the channel on their list.
Geez Louise...people WILL buy anything.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:06 AM
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11. not true
I called my cable company and they told me that Pox news wasn't a premium channel and it could not be blocked at the source. Suggested I use the blocking feature on my remote, which I did. No more Pox faces, not even for a fraction of a second.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:55 PM
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53. yay! i just did that
all by my little self! i major feat for me!
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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:33 AM
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17. Thats not the point

According to the article, it's supposed to represent a tangible form of disagreement, like burning a draft card.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:24 AM
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33. yes: I like any idea that spreads the word that FOX is a f***ing JOKE
and a sick one at that
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:37 AM
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44. Not silly in one instance
In our breakroom there is a TV that seems to be almost exclusively tuned to Fox News. I'm going to buy on and stick it on there. I go in on Sunday's a lot when nobody is there so I will risk it. I will just hang out in the break room on Monday and watch the fundies scratching their heads. I wonder how long it will take for someone to discover it and remove it! :evilgrin:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 06:01 PM
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114. People can also send e-mails saying they won't watch FoxNews....
....and to FoxNews advertisers.

I don't begrudge DUers for buying this product but I think this guy is trying to make money off of liberal angst.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:11 AM
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12. These folks need money for ads........
Maybe lots of folks need to buy a few of these devices and even pitch in a few bucks extra to allow for ad buys on all TV stations, including Fox.
The ads alone will be a huge impact and the beginning of a very important discussion.
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seg4527 Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:50 AM
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14. keep rating it a 5! it's on the front page of yahoo!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:18 AM
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40. Here's a link to rate it
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:01 AM
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15. and of course the site is being dos-attacked by freepers so it won't load
at 2 am. sheesh.

what a brilliant idea.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:05 AM
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16. I think its absolutey brilliant....
The cost is minimal, and whether you use it or not, at least it goes to a good cause. Also, the site says for every one thats sold, they send e-mails to advertisers on FAUX News. This is exactly the type of things that need to be done. Hit corporate America in the pocketbook. When they start feeling heat, Bush will start feeling heat.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:28 PM
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63. Yes it is. It's a symbol. Maybe just a silly little device. But the fact
that it's there, it's available, and its sale also unleashes those emails is great! It's one more little chink in their armor. One citizen of Lilliput was no match for Gulliver. But thousands of them tied him to the ground and completely immobilized him.

And the perfect pitch with the perfect stone allowed little bitty David to bring down the mighty, seemingly invincible Goliath.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:10 AM
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18. He has been a Republican, yet!
From the article:
Formerly a registered Republican, even a precinct captain, Kimery became an independent in the 1990s when he said the state party stopped taking input from its everyday members.

Kimery now contends Fox News' top-level management dictates a conservative journalistic bias, that inaccuracies are never retracted, and what winds up on the air is more opinion than news. "I might as well be reading tabloids out of the grocery store," he says. "Anything to get a rise out of the viewer and to reinforce certain retrograde notions."
(snip/...)
THANKS for posting this. I'm certain the angels sing when a Republican wakes the #### UP!


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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:26 AM
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19. I'll have to buy one.
I've already got Fox deleted from my channel scan, but this sends a message and is relatively cheap.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:54 AM
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20. I'm putting my order in too.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 06:45 AM
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22. Death threats. Man, these psycho whackos sure love their FAUX newZ.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:11 AM
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27. Yes, they are the same fundy whack-jobs that
pray for a person to live, and in the same breath pray for another to die and/or suffer.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:03 AM
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24. kick
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ablbodyed Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:08 AM
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26. How reality mimics fiction>>>>
Two week ago there was a story on "Boston Legal" exactly about this. It brought back a character from David E. Kelley's canceled series "Boston Public", the principled principal. He had installed a device like this on the TV's at the high school, to block only an un-named cable news network (it was named in the original script, but ABC censored it and forced them to not give Faux free publicity). The case went to court, and the attorney, a liberal, argued that it was a freedom of speech issue, and the device should be removed, while the defender of the principal argued, basically, that Faux was propaganda, and that the principal had the right to protect his students from such propaganda. The judge ruled in favor of the student who sued to get Faux back.
Amazing.
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Offlogic Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:55 AM
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37. ...And Fiction doesn't reflect Reality
Foxblocker went "live" last August, so 'Boston Legal' was attempting to reflect reality, at least to a point.
We did publish a reaction to some elements of the as-broadcast script (particularly the enormous size of their 'News Blocker' device, the size of a can of motor oil!), and found the legal reasoning suspect as well. But hey, it's a TV show with William Shatner (whom I dearly love, really), so what can we bitch about?
We still get DOS attacks, vile threats and a lot of guff from folks that don't understand the slimy nature of Fox "News" or their unsubtle agenda to destroy American values while claiming to defend them.
We have to ask ourselves "What would P.T. Barnum do?".
"This way to the egress!" as the saying goes....
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:33 AM
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41. Hey welcome to DU!! Are you the inventor of this device??
The way that was written it sounds like you are involved in some way.
Anyway you cut it this is a great idea and thank you for that.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:18 AM
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46. This is the first ray of optimism I've had since the antiwar marches
Just in case you are the one involved with this blocker. The concept warms my heart. It is concrete evidence that there are people in the silent majority who are still alive, breathing, and resisting. Thank you. (I am crap with words, so I probably didn't get my message across as it should be.)
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Offlogic Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:45 PM
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52. Yes, Foxblocker is here, and there's more than Fox "News" to fight
Guilty as charged, but I'm only a part of the gan- ,er, "team".
Not new technology per se, but a novel application. It sure get's the issue discussed when you present a physical "prop" to wrap the concept around.

Maybe the best thing about Foxblocker is that following the log entries leads us to all sorts of other like-minded folks. I hope we can help build some 'community' on the progressive issues that are being ignored by the current crop of liars, thieves, and well-poisoners that are calling the shots for now.

This is not a 'party political' issue, it's a 'don't let disingenous ideology crater our country or planet' issue.

We are here to agitate, call them on their straw-man arguments, rub their noses in valid opposing views and show them we can and will fight back.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:50 PM
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57. Brilliant
Hope you make a bag as well. Block all the 'plastic news'. The world will be grateful.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:35 PM
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65. Excellent! You're doing the work of the saints. And Welcome to DU!
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 03:36 PM by calimary
I think what you and your colleagues are doing is WUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNderful!!!

The guys who pulled off the Boston Tea Party would like what you're doing.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:12 AM
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28. oh thank you, that just made my morning
LOL! I haven't even gotten through my first cup of coffee yet. I'm glad it was sitting on the table when I read this or it would have been all over my screen! This guy is brilliant and I'm sending his website to everyone I know! :bounce:
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:33 AM
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29. I've got one I can sell as well.
It's called a remote control. You press the "channel" button and *poof*, FoxNews goes away.

Christ, what a waste of money.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:51 AM
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48. Yes, I realize this, however
The money isn't the point. The point is, it's a specific action. Sure- it would be NICE if our remotes sent an email to every channel we disgustedly flip away from, to let them know WHY we flipped away from it, but that's just not possible.

Now, what *I'D* like to see is an upgrade to this device that sends them an email every time someone tries to access the blocked channel.

That would be interesting for them to deal with, no?
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:39 AM
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30. my favorite faux blocker is tv-b-gone
I guess it must be getting into the mainstream, as I now see it in the Harrington catalog.

Here's the tv-b-gone site:

http://www.tvbgone.com/home.php
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:27 AM
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31. Title should read: Fox Propaganda. It's not news. nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:49 AM
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35. Freedom really IS on the march when someone offers a gizmo to block FOX.
Hurray for science!
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cronincal Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:52 AM
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36. someone needs to invent something that blocks fox news at the source.
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MileHiStealth Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:06 AM
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38. Hmm ... so if you're in an office or apartment building ....
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 10:11 AM by MileHiStealth
and you could get access to the MDU, you could install
it between the tap and the splitters and filter the
whole building....

On edit, he should make 625 and 750 power-passing
filters, than they could be installed in trunk lines
to filter whole communities ...
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:17 AM
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39. oh my - now who would ever do that??!
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:43 AM
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45. You gotta love Freeper terrorists making death threats
they're probably "pro-life" too :P
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:25 AM
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47. I'm going to buy several
...I'm always looking for the perfect gift. This, my friends, is it. :thumbsup:

Plus, the snicker factor alone is worth the price! :D
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:11 PM
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49. Man Sells Device That Blocks Fox News
It's not that Sam Kimery objects to the views expressed on Fox News. The creator of the "Fox Blocker" contends the channel is not news at all. Kimery figures he's sold about 100 of the little silver bits of metal that screw into the back of most televisions, allowing people to filter Fox News from their sets, since its August debut.

The Tulsa, Okla., resident also has received thousands of e-mails, both angry and complimentary as well as a few death threats.

"Apparently the making of terroristic threats against those who don't share your views is a high art form among a certain core audience," said Kimery, 45.

read more...

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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:26 PM
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50. True political theater would be giving out thousands for free. (n/t)
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Offlogic Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:57 PM
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54. Alas, if only rain was beer....
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 12:59 PM by Offlogic
We're independant private citizen muck-rakers. We have no external funding at all. If we could get the filters for free, we'd only have to ask for postage and handling, but since we have to pay for them....

We emphatically encourage folks to block Fox "News" at their cable boxes, without buying a FoxBlocker! But you really have to contact the advertisers on FNC to hit them where they live. You and me, we can listen to reason. For News Corp, money is the only language they speak.

If the advertisers get the clue that they are seen as backing the radical right-wing nutjob agenda, and are responsible for its spread, they might throttle back on their spending with FNC.

It ain't a sure thing, but there's a chance that the free market will work.

We sure aren't gonna get rich on it either way, but that's not our goal.
Breaking even would be nice, someday....
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:03 PM
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55. umbrellas would be funnels?
we have these things called "beer hats" here...
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:05 PM
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56. Argue for your limitations and they become yours.
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 01:11 PM by FreepFryer
Many of us here have significant financial resources to lend.

Don't discount the power of how 'in the system' many of us are.

"Steal this Fox Blocker!" "Buy five, and send four to complete strangers!"
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:27 PM
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51. I love this...
Yes, you can block it with your remote, but the beauty of this is that it's putting advertisers on notice - and the advertisers are what keeps FAUX on the air.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:09 PM
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58. it may block the signal
but you're still paying to receive it--and Fox still makes its money.

If you can have it removed from your cable/dish package and not pay for it period, that would be even better.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:15 PM
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59. this is beautiful!!!
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:40 PM
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60. I was excited to get an "invite" from AC Nielsen ratings the other day...
... and couldn't wait to start adding some more progressive notches in their ratings.

This device might be good *insurance* that no "Faux" ratings get out of my house! Thanks!!!
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:10 PM
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66. Get a universal remote, SHUT OFF every TV in restaurants, bars, etc.
All commercial TV is propaganda and it is everywhere.

Elevators in a Chicago hotel had CNN on small screens embedded in the control panel.

So I took my magic marker and wrote "1984-NO!!!" over the screen on every ride I took as other passengers watched with amusement.

People will let you shut off the din of lies so take the initiative.
Take back your own thoughts and conversation in public areas and where ever you can.

It helps the battle against fascism to be able to hear yourself think.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 06:02 PM
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69. If it would only block it at the satellite uplink.
That's something I'd pay money to see!
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 06:17 PM
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70. It's sad but true that any time you receive death threats
you are on the morally right side of the issue.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 06:53 PM
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71. In Montana, nearly every public space-located TV has Fox on
I wish they had something that would allow remote disabling or jamming of the stupid shit. And I could carry it on my person. For years now, airport TVs, breakfast rooms in motels and hotels had Fox on as the default. I am beginning to see it back off a little, though. Who can stand a steady diet of dead-end, leads-nowhere reasoning carried to utter puke-inducing extremes?
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:36 PM
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73. Why pay $8.95 all you have to do his block it on your remote.
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:24 PM
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76. I'll buy two for me and one for my Repuke dad
He'll never know what hit his TV :P
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:11 PM
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82. Hee. They would make GREAT gifts. n/t
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 12:12 PM by BlueIris
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:14 PM
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83. There was another one invented years ago...
it can click channels on and off and knows automatically to skip the faux news channel. It is equipped with crescent shaped sharp object that can also be used to dig into flesh if image of * comes on the screen. Crescent can be chewed off during political debates and elections and will mysteriously regenerate itself. It can also be sucked when election results aren't satisfactory, to relieve some of the pain and anxiety. And it comes at an amazingly low price.
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osiristz Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:27 PM
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87. Like I need help to turn off theTV!
Only in Anerica!
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CarefullyLiberal Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:02 PM
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88. What a bizarre product
What a bizarre and perfectly stupid little product. I also question the technology and wonder if it really works.

Checking the website I can find no information on how the Foxblocker figures out what channel it's going to block. Here in Sarasota, Florida, FOX News is on channel 34 or 37, (can you tell I don't watch FOX very much :>). At my mother's house in Maine it's on channel 17. They must have a different coaxial tap for every channel possibility.

Again, I question the technology. Maybe FOX emanates some sort of secret brain targeted wavelength that re-programs liberals into non-thinking Republicans, yeah that must be how the Foxblocker figures it out.

If you really want to block FOX, contact me and I'll help you block FOX for FREE by programing your remote, or your TV or TiVo. Or call your cable company if you need help blocking FOX but for goodness sake, don't waste your money on the Foxblocker, it's junk.

Peace,

Fergus
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:00 PM
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118. It "knows" which channel to block because...
when you order it you tell it which channel to block. Pretty simple, huh?
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liberal-bias Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:32 PM
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89. But then you won't get to see O'Reilly's....
...acceptance speech should he win Liberal-Bias March Madness.

Liberal-Bias assembled 32 of the biggest threats to liberalism today and let it's viewers decide in NCAA March Madness tournament bracket style, who was the biggest of them all. Now it's down to the final two: Karl Rove & Bill O'Reilly.

Log on to

http://www.liberal-bias.com

now to cast your vote and to determine who the king of neo-con BS is for 2005.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:00 AM
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96. How in the hell does this thing actually work?
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melv Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:40 AM
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102. and does it work with a Satellite System?
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:14 PM
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104. If you have Dish, you can already block Fox... for free
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 05:53 PM
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112. cable might come with a channel that gives "station" names:
my Cox has a time-stamp channel that the VCRs love
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:03 PM
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119. Since I don't work for these folks, I can't say for certain, but...
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 07:03 PM by Mithras61
I suspect it's just a simple RF filter that goes into the line and interferes with the reception of a specific frequency (the one you specify by channel when you order the device). I don't know the specifics, but it's the same principle that used to be used by cable companies to keep you from accessing "premium" channels.
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 04:27 PM
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110. WHERE ARE MY S's and G's???
the symbolism is brilliant, but where else can i go for a gazillion S's and G's?
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Trish1168 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 06:42 PM
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117. Did Fox set up its own blockers against your links?
I couldn't open them, which is sad, because I was going to do a little early Christmas shopping.
:(
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:21 PM
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121. HA - HA!
Now that's funny! :7
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:26 PM
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123. Great idea, thanx for posting.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:00 AM
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128. I refuse to stay in hotels that offer Faux news!
Thats my small contribution...
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:50 PM
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134. LOL. That's frickin hilarious. n/t
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WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:55 PM
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135. I came up with his idea six years ago
He is going to be the next gazillionair :mad:
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