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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:17 PM
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Frist Rejects Social Security Concerns - - FLIPPITY FLOPPITY
Frist Rejects Social Security Concerns

By LAURA MECKLER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Thursday that Congress must confront Social Security (news - web sites)'s problems this year, dialing back comments earlier in the week that action might have to wait.


"We need to do it this year. Not the next year," Frist said Thursday on the Senate floor. "We are working towards this goal."


Two days ago, Frist noted intense Democratic opposition and suggested he might not be able to move a bill to the Senate floor this year, as Bush has pushed for. "I want to be realistic," Frist said on Tuesday.


Other Republicans have expressed skepticism about the Bush plan, and polls have shown public support falling.

<SNIP>

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=512&u=/ap/20050303/ap_on_go_co/social_security&printer=1
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:19 PM
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1. * gave him a talkin' to -
Frist got reprimanded real good, yesiree. :spank:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:25 PM
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9. YUP. Fristy has surely spent the last couple nights in the gimp suit
and tucked away in the trunk...only to be dragged out for his hourly reprimands. It's truly sickening how "REAL" an image that is.

He's got to be hating life right now. Say "buh bye" to your presidential aspirations fuck-face!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 03:54 PM
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24. Actually, Bush promised them he would boost his popularity soon
so that they could push his proposal for SS.

Anyone think it's just a coincidence Bush brought up Bin Laden and terror attacks today?

Something's coming and it will be soon. Expect Bush to be portrayed as the hero, just so they could push through his fascist goals.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:38 AM
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43. Probably Rove, actually.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:20 PM
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2. The puppet got his
strings yanked.
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Pinboy Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:22 PM
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3. Fresh from the woodshed
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:23 PM
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4. Any concern he may have had about votes in his state ....
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 01:24 PM by TahitiNut
... have obviously been allayed by Diebold and ES&S. "Who cares what you think?" is the motto of elections systems in our country today.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:25 PM
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8. No Shit!
I'd like to make a spoof commercial for Diebold voting Machines, the slogan being "Who cares what YOU think??"
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:23 PM
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5. spoke outside the script for the day
Do it again, bill and no '08 ticket place 4 U!
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:24 PM
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6. Was probably a "Trial Balloon"
...filled with lead.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:25 PM
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7. the dauphin stomped his little foot
now the entire court is rushing to put a pillow under it.

Republic my ass. This is a monarchy obviously.

I think Shrub just loves the town halls. He gets so much love at those screened events that it makes him think he actually has support.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:27 PM
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10. That's Why He Bowed Out Of The Town-Hall Meeting In Europe
he found out the audience would get to question him directly!!

He couldn't handle that, so he ducked.

What an asshole...he refuses to be held accountable to his own people...now he even refuses to be held accountable by the Europeans!!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:30 PM
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13. It doesn't even have to do with "accountability" ...
... since, I'm sure, he regards such events as granting people an audience with the King. It's condescension.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:27 PM
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11. No, it's "flappity floppity flip"
"Flippity floppity" would entail "flap", which doesn't rhyme with "strip". Schroedinger's mouse.

"Flappity, floppity, flip
The mouse on the mobius strip;
The strip revolved,
The mouse dissolved
In a chronodimensional skip."

Sorry, I'm having great difficulty being serious today. :eyes:
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Weembo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 02:24 PM
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17. Good one (eom)
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:23 PM
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28. Flip'in and Flop'in!! :)
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 05:26 PM by calipendence
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:28 PM
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12. And the Problem is BUSH. Maybe he will start dealing with him.
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Itsthetruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:36 PM
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15. A Republican Change In Course To Attack Social Security
I believe that Frist is suggesting that Congress act on Social Security's non-existent solvency "problem" rather than privatization.

He along with other Republicans hope they can reach a "bi-partisan" agreement with some Democrats on legislation to cut social security benefits and/or coverage by some price indexing scheme and increasing the retirement age and early retirement "penalties".
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finecraft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:33 PM
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14. I hope all the rats go down with the sinking ship
Let him "flip-flop" and "stay the course" with Bush.....because when this "social security modernization" ship sinks, it ain't gonna be pretty.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 02:21 PM
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16. Frist will not have done one thing in the public interest by the time he
leaves public office IMHO.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 02:36 PM
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18. The War with Iran is in June guys - the fight for SS will be ignored.
They have to do it this year!! What is not to understand?
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 02:57 PM
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20. So who's going to fight it?
Can't get that many trainees through the system by then, and all the current troops are either in Iraq, preparing to go there, or just came from there. Bet they didn't think about that, either.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 03:08 PM
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21. Has to be, what else could these crooked bastards be planning?
I was a little skeptical a couple of weeks ago. Now though I can see the power hungry junkies coming out in them. Some of these fruitcakes in the white house operate in their own orbit. They may or may not have a real plan for SS but it quite clear it's serving as a diversion while they set up some other plans of action.

Scot Ritter recently described them as the enemy in a more or less sense. I tend to believe the guy, he hasn't been very wrong about them yet.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:09 PM
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30. Actually I do not know about the war. But as to numbers? I would not
put it past Rummy to start a WAR, destabilize a place with smart bombs, and then insist that there has to be a draft after the gates to hell are open.

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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 02:54 PM
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19. Who didn't see this one coming?
That's why I called Frist's office and both of my rethug Senators' offices to offer my support for Frist's idea before * shoved it down his throat.

He had the bad luck/timing of making his statement at the same time * was revving up for the next offensive.

I believe there will still be an all-out battle on SS.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 03:42 PM
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22. the GOP has a small window of opportunity to destroy SS
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 03:43 PM by BlueManDude
must do it now or never. far enuf away from midterms to make the people forget by using gays or terrorists. also after midterms gop pres primary season starts.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:21 PM
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31. Which is why they cannot afford to push the judicial nomination thingy
to the "nucular <sic> option." They can't afford the backlash bitchslapping the Dems will unleash in the Senate if they go that route. At the same time, Fristy can't run for pres having failed to ushered chimp's creepy agenda through. Interesting how this all fits together...and how it will inevitably sink the scum in their own slime.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:20 PM
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33. we are far from out of the woods on ss
they will have 95%+ of the gopers willing to drink the Kool-Aid - the question is can the dems in the senate defend the alamo.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 03:54 PM
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23. King Bush commands and Frist Bows and obeys!!!
Republicans will bow or be destroyed ... Bush never takes No for an answer!!!
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 04:32 PM
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26. Thats what we have been hearing too
Yea *, invade Syria and Iran, gut SS, give your rich buddies another tax break and on and on.

I could hate him, but I don't think he is really worthy of it :think:

The USA is "No. 1" in nothing but weaponry, consumer spending, debt, and delusion.
http://207.44.245.159/article8191.htm
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 04:23 PM
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25. This makes no sense. It is political suicide. The Republican Party has
absolutely lost it. Too many Thunes.
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:13 PM
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27. Political suicide only makes sense if you have reasonably honest voting
system.

We don't. They can do anything they want.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:35 PM
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29. Didn't Frist just announce that he is not going to run again? He said he
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 05:35 PM by BrklynLiberal
is going to retire from politics to find a cure for AIDS. I swear I read that! I did not make that up!! I swear...REALLY!!!
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:49 PM
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32. He'd be better off working on a cure for his own mendacity.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:10 AM
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34. kick to combine
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:11 AM
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35. WP: Frist Revises Social Security Remarks, Urges Prompt Action
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, who angered some fellow Republicans this week by suggesting President Bush's proposed Social Security revisions might have to wait a year, said yesterday that the legislation needs to pass this year.

"We need to do it this year -- not next year, but this year," Frist (R-Tenn.) said on the Senate floor, moments after the day's session began. He also restated his support for private accounts that would allow a portion of a younger worker's Social Security contributions to be invested in stocks and to follow the worker into retirement.

Frist had ruffled feathers at the White House and elsewhere by telling reporters Tuesday that it was unclear whether Congress would tackle Social Security revisions in "a week, a month, six months or a year." Acknowledging strong Democratic opposition to private accounts, he had added, "I wouldn't take that off the table yet."

(snip)

Some Democrats chortled at Frist's revised comments yesterday. The party's senatorial campaign committee said in a statement that White House officials had taken the Senate leader "to the woodshed." Frist's staff said he simply wanted to clarify his position on Social Security.

more…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4183-2005Mar3.html
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:11 AM
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36. Why can't anyone stand up to Bush?
We have to put up with 60 days of his lies and bull shit. I would sure like to know what they told the talk shows to do for the next couple of months. They are trying to make this into a partisan fight which it isn't. It's the repukes against the people. We are on lookers.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:11 AM
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37. Ass Clown Frist...
said three times in an iterview yesterday that Dems say there is no problem with SS. What freakin' LIAR.
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pdurod1 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:11 AM
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41. Easy, corporate controlled media. Commies (CCCP) controlled TASS
Bush Admin announced that they would support "disinformation" during the first term. It's 1984, man.

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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:11 AM
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38. FLIP FLOP!
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pdurod1 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:11 AM
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40. If you're a repug: that would be a "floppity flip"
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:11 AM
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39. dupe
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 11:23 PM by dweller
:D

not the OP, just my post...

dp
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:11 AM
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42. There goes social security. Start cleaning out your shopping carts
you are going to need the carts to push around the remains of your property when you turn retirement age.
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