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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:53 AM
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U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq Rise to 1,500
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 12:54 AM by cal04
How do WE find a way to end this)

The number of U.S. military deaths in Iraq (news - web sites) rose to 1,500 on Thursday, an Associated Press count showed, as the military announced the latest death of one of its troops. The soldier was killed Wednesday in Babil province, just south of Baghdad, part of an area known as the "Triangle of Death" because of the frequency of insurgent attacks on U.S.- and Iraqi-led forces there

U.S. troops are killed nearly every day in Iraq.
The latest death brought to at least 1,500 the number of members of the U.S. military who have died since the U.S.-led war in Iraq began in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. At least 1,140 died as a result of hostile action, according to the Defense Department. The figures include four military civilians.

Since May 1, 2003, when President Bush (news - web sites) declared that major combat operations in Iraq had ended, 1,362 U.S. military members have died, according to AP's count. That includes at least 1,030 deaths resulting from hostile action, according to the military's numbers.



.:cry:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050303/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_us_deaths
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:54 AM
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1. Hey! Hey! GWB how many kids did you kill today?
And with every one I will utter those four dreaded words "I told you so".
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:56 AM
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2. BUT...
"The story of what we've done in the postwar period is remarkable. ... It is a better and more important story than losing a couple of soldiers every day." George Nethercutt (R-WA)

RIP soldiers, I weep for every one of you.

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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:59 AM
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5. Nethercutt is a dimwitted backwoods idiot asshole bigot.
OK, that's my rant on him :-)
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:57 AM
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3. one thousand five hundred. One Thousand Five Hundred.
If everyone would, please just pause for a moment and grasp the weight of that number.

May they rest in peace.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:58 AM
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4. Sad... So fucking sad... 1 is to many, but 1500 is just... I dont know.
:(
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Blackthorn Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:07 AM
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7. And that's just the "official" count...
Insiders put the total at anywhere from 3000 to 8000. That "official" total only counts soldiers killed 'in situ'. If you are hit with shrapnel, but die in hospital, you don't go towards the "official" count.

Remember, whatever this adminstration tells you, the truth is far worse.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:32 AM
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8. Yep...huge
off topic..but you've been sorely missed.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 03:06 AM
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9. nsma
Off topic, but that's the nicest thing anyone's said to me in ages.

:hug: :hug: :hug:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:34 AM
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34. Arlington West photos:






More sad photos here -> http://www.addictedtowar.com/mfso.htm

(BTW - how've you been VJ? Long time no see!:hi:)
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amjucsc Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 01:06 AM
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6. And of course this dosen't include the Iraqis
What's the latest estimate on them?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 03:43 AM
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10. Thousands of children
Blown into a pile of hash or shredded like cheese.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:40 AM
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11. Hundreds of thousands killed. Many orphans like this one...*graphic*
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 05:40 AM by leftchick


her and her 5 siblings saw their parents blown into so much swiss cheese right before their eyes. This probably happens daily.

:(
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:44 AM
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12. http://icasualties.org/oif/
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 05:45 AM by leftchick
Military Fatalities: By Time Period

Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
4 64 0 2 66 2.06 32
3 579 26 27 632 2.93 216
2 717 27 58 802 1.89 424
1 140 33 0 173 4.02 43
Total 1500 86 87 1673 2.34 715

To View Period Details Click The Period Number
Time Periods Defined
Latest Fatality: Mar 03, 2005


Military Fatalities: By Month
Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
3-2005 2 0 0 2 0.67 3
2-2005 58 0 2 60 2.14 28

News:

Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
4 64 0 2 66 2.06 32
3 579 26 27 632 2.93 216
2 717 27 58 802 1.89 424
1 140 33 0 173 4.02 43
Total 1500 86 87 1673 2.34 715

To View Period Details Click The Period Number
Time Periods Defined
Latest Fatality: Mar 03, 2005


Military Fatalities: By Month
Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
3-2005 2 0 0 2 0.67 3
2-2005 58 0 2 60 2.14 28
1-2005 107 10 10 127 4.1 31

NEWS:

03/02/05 DoD Identifies Army Casualty
Pfc. Danny L. Anderson, 29, of Corpus Christi, Texas, died Feb. 27 in Baghdad, Iraq, from injuries sustained from small arms fire. Anderson was assigned to the Army's 26th Forward Support Battalion, 2nd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division.

03/02/05 DoD Identifies Army Casualty
Spc. Lizbeth Robles, 31, of Vega Baja, Puerto Rico, died at the 228th Command Support Hospital in Tikirt, Iraq, on March 1. from injuries sustained in a military vehicle accident that occurred Feb. 28 in Bayji, Iraq.

03/02/05 DoD Identifies Army Casualty
Sgt. Julio E. Negron, 28, of Pompano Beach, Fla., died in Bayji on Feb. 28. from died injuries sustained in a military vehicle accident that occurred Feb. 28 in Bayji, Iraq. He was assigned to the Army's 360th Transportation Company.

Etc., etc..... :(
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:50 AM
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13. "It was worth it"...........
said the yellow-bellied, coward-in-chief.

Yeah, worth it to his family and his and Cheney's portfolios.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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14. U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq Rise to 1,500 - AP
If everyone would, please just pause for a moment and grasp the weight of that number.

May they rest in peace.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050303/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_us_deaths

The number of U.S. military deaths in Iraq rose to 1,500 on Thursday, an Associated Press count showed, as the military announced the latest death of one of its troops.


The soldier was killed Wednesday in Babil province, just south of Baghdad, part of an area known as the "Triangle of Death" because of the frequency of insurgent attacks on U.S.- and Iraqi-led forces there.


The soldier, assigned to the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, was killed in action "while conducting security and stability operations," the military said, declining to release more specific information.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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15. Bush's price tag for corporate globalism
May I add a correction? My marine nephew who has served one tour in Iraq and is headed back in August does not deem himself a "soldier". For what ever reasons, they identify differently. When I asked him about being a soldier, he said "Mam, I'm not a soldier, I'm a Marine".
Please keep that in mind. You have Marines, Airmen, Sailors, Soldiers. The correct term for a marine is a marine. The correct term for those serving in the military branches is "troops".
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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24. "Corpses" that's what many of them will become
"No glory being a corpse---they are nasty to look at, smell bad, and in Narcissistic amerika--- soon forgotten.

"Hey Jim turn up the Idol program that chick is hot" </sarcasm>
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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27. I always found that just a tad snobby
I consider them ALL soldiers - and I am a veteran.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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16. :cry:
:cry:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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17. Big time
My nephew joined the Marines when he was 18, right out of high school. He's now 19, and in many ways an old man.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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18. Oh look, another corner turned...
...God make it stop.
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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19. Is the US Gov't Lying About # of Soldiers Killed?
Came across this earlier today.


Wednesday, March 02, 2005



Do you know that the number of US soldiers killed in Vietnam in the first two years of the war was less than one fourth of the number of US soldiers killed in Iraq till now
<snip>
The Official DoD's figures of US casualties in Iraq is 1,499.

It's important to mention that DoD's figures do not include hundreds of "non-combat" fatalities.

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m10091


The figures were held down during Viet Nam. Is it happening again? Here are a few snips and the link from Axis of Logic.

"Today's mass killing added to the number of Iraqi deaths which total well over 100,000 since the U.S. invaded the country 2 years ago. As U.S. citizens we must lay responsibility for this hellish nightmare where it belongs - at the feet of George Walker Bush, Dick Cheney, the rest of the regime and the U.S. legislators and senators who have supported the war and occupation from the beginning. These mass killers must be brought to justice before the world spins further out of control. There is no end in sight to the savagery and not a single reason to believe that their appetite for blood will be sated. They must be stopped because they will not stop on their own."
<snip>
"But these killers are not only responsible for the deaths of so many Iraqi men, women and children.  They are also responsibile for the growing number U.S. military men and women who have been killed in this war.  Many if not most of these recruits also ended up in Iraq to avoid unemployment and economic hardship. Now there is reason to believe that the U.S. government and the Pentagon have been lying about the numbers of their own soldiers who have been killed and wounded."
<snip>
"Brian Harring, writing for TBR News reported that 30 more U.S. soldiers died in Iraq in the first 13 days this month alone.  By February 13, the official government count of U.S. military dead was 1532 and rising.  TBR News reports that as of January 1, 2005, about 6,210 U.S. Military Personnel who died in German hospitals or en route to German hospitals ARE NOT COUNTED IN THIS TOTAL."

"Is the U.S. Government lying to U.S. citizens about the number of U.S. soldiers who have been killed and are being killed in Iraq?"
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_15982...









Crimes Against Humanity

Impeach George Bush

Arrest Dick Cheney

Indict Paul Wolfowitz
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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21. The deaths we've lost to corporatism
and the right is stil dumb ,deaf,and blind.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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30. Glad you brought up the higher number
We are evidently getting the "killed in action" number...and that is someone who dies on the "battlefield".

Historically killed in action (KIA) are listed separately from others...such as died of wounds(DOW)or non-battle deaths(NBD). If they make it to the hospital before they die after being wounded in combat they are considered DoW. I wonder what is included in the casualty numbers we are given.

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kclown Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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20. Flame bait: I have a 19-y.o. and 17-y.o. son (2 sons)
I have arrived at the belief that Bush will withdraw the
troops when the death toll reaches 3k, and will explain it by
saying, "We have avenged the 9/11 attack".

I sincerely believe that the admin is this demented.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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22. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11
Johns Hopkins has stated that we've killed way over 100,000 innocent Iraqis.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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25. That makes no sense
I'm not doubting you, Bushie often makes no sense, but 3000 deaths of our own men/women in Iraq or any other place avenges nothing. It's like cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:14 AM
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37. get ready for the draft....
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 08:14 AM by leftchick
The USA has NO intention of EVER leaving Iraq or the ME...

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/outrage?bid=13&pid=2132

<snip>


While the exact figure may change, suspicions of undisclosed US imperial plans--exemplified by permanent military bases--rightfully linger. Before the war, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz suggested moving US troops stationed in Saudi Arabia into Iraq. In October, a survey by the University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes found that two-thirds of respondents disapproved of a permanent military presence, even though more than half thought the US would build the bases anyway.

Now comes a report in the New York Sun by Eli Lake revealing that the Pentagon is building a permanent military communications system in Iraq, a necessary foundation for any lasting troop presence. The new network will comprise twelve communications towers throughout Iraq, linking Camp Victory in Baghdad to other existing (and future) bases across the country, eventually connecting with US bases in Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Afghanistan.

"People need to get realistic and think in terms of our presence being in Iraq for a generation or until democratic stability in the region is reached," Dewey Clarridge, the CIA's former chief of Arab operations (and Iran-contra point man), told the Sun.

The fabled "exit strategy" may be not to exit. Thomas Donnelly, a defense specialist at the American Enterprise Institute, said the new communication system resembles those built in West Germany and the Balkans, places where American troops remain today. "The operational advantages of US bases in Iraq should be obvious for other power-projection missions in the region," Donnelly wrote in an AEI policy paper.

Next time the Bush Administration hints at withdrawing troops, keep these grand plans in mind.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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23. I doubt that this news will make the scroll on fox news tonight.
The worst part is that 1500 isn't the end of it.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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26. The worst part is
Too many don't give a damn.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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28. as long as they can sport stupid magnets on their SUVs
and buy crap at Wal-Mart, everything is fine. I am DISGUSTED.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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29. For Whom the Bell Tolls - RIP
A Poem That I Wrote In A High Fever

You who are lengthening your lives
with the best doctors and the best medicines
remember those who are shortening their lives
with the wars
that you in your long lives are not
preventing.

You who are again screwing
the younger generations
and winking at each other
the winking of your eyelids
is like the chill of the swinging shutters
in an empty house.


-- Yehuda Amichai

(Translated from the Hebrew, by Leon Wieseltier.)



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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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31. The last two lines
of a poem I write when I was about 10...thinking about living in a war zone...

Sounds of gunshots echo through the valley
And will echo long after guns have ceased.


Not all the wounds or deaths are physical.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:04 AM
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32. My sons are too old to be drafted
at least as of right now. I have an 18 year old grandson, and 4 very precious great nephews who are younger, but apparently as long as Bush is inflicted on us as president, there will always be a war or wars going on.

I will do anything I can to help them prevent becoming another statistic in Bush's war for control of oil. Every teenager I have any contact with, family members or friends, I try to explain what is going on, and why it's so important for them to avoid military service at this time.

In other times, with other presidents, the military is an honorable choice...as it stands now, it's just enabling this administration to carry out it's piggy plan to suck up all the wealth it can.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:26 AM
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33. The troops will stay for many years.
Nothing can be done about it because both majority of Repubs and Dems will vote for more money to keep them there.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:37 AM
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35. I can't take this anymore
:cry:
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:04 AM
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36. Let's send 1,500 dead white roses to Hillary
Kerry and all the rest who voted for this slaughter.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:18 AM
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38. March 19th PROTESTS of 2nd anniversary
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 08:20 AM by ClayZ
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:39 AM
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39. If you would all be so kind, I have a thread in GD to rate up the YAHOO
article...
If you'd stop by and show your support, I'd really appreciate it.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3210713&mesg_id=3210713
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 09:53 AM
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40. Kick. This abomination, this evil, this CRIME
needs to stay on the Front Page.

KIA 1,500
WMD 0
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 11:59 AM
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41. kick to combine threads
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 11:59 AM
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42.  (BBC News) US display marks 1,500 war dead
Thursday, 3 March, 2005, 15:17 GMT

Portraits of nearly all of the 1,500 US troops killed in Iraq are going on display at a New York state university.
The pictures, mostly painted by art students, stare down from a 60m (200ft) wall at Syracuse University.
"It's not about the war or politics. It's about these people who have given their lives," said Stephen Zaima, a professor at the university.

According to AP news agency, the number of US servicemen and women killed in Iraq reached 1,500 on Thursday. However, domestic US support for the war appears to have been buoyed by the success of Iraq's elections in January.

A New York Times/CBS News poll released on Thursday said 53% felt efforts to bring order to Iraq were going well, up from 41% a month ago.

The 1500th US casualty was a marine killed by insurgents in Babil province, just south of Baghdad, on Wednesday, AP reported.
AP said its tally of 1,500 included 1,140 who had died as a result of hostile action.

(more at link)
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4315075.stm>
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 11:59 AM
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43. As usual, we must go to outside sources to get US news.
There's no surprise that the entire world knows far more facts abd reality about America than most Americans do.

53% don't realize that 76 US troops have been killed since Iraq's "elections" last month. The faster the troops die, the better Americans think Iraq is going.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 11:59 AM
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44. I just found a link to Syracuse University News site, but...
the links not connecting. It might be over loaded right now.

:(
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 11:59 AM
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45. The vast majority of Americans
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 11:48 AM by Dhalgren
just don't care about the deaths of these soldiers. It's just "too bad" or "oh, those damned Iraqis!" or "well, they died doing what they were hired to do." (I actually heard that one).

Americans have lost all sense of true "community" (if they ever had it). It has become blatant "dog eat dog" and "if some other poor fuck gets his brains blown out so that I can drive my SUV and not miss my nightly lounge in front of the tee vee, then I - don't - care!" That's the America we in habit, today. Zeus bless America...
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 11:59 AM
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46. You're right about the, "...died doing what they were hired to do..."
...part. On Tuesday's Frontline, on PTSD, the Army defenders said almost exactly that, when asked.:grr:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 03:05 PM
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59. NPR's "Talk of the Nation" talking about this Exibit Just now!
It was a bit short, but I bet it's more than most MSM will do.

<http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4521355>

University Exhibit Paints Picture of Fallen U.S. Soldiers

Audio for this story will be available at approx. 6:00 p.m. ET

Talk of the Nation, March 3, 2005 ·

A new art exhibit that opens Thursday at Syracuse University features painted portraits of nearly 1,500 soldiers killed in Iraq. The portraits, painted in various media, were created by students and faculty, as well as local artists.

Guest:

Stephen Zaima, professor of painting in the College of Visual and Performing Arts at Syracuse University. Sponsors the project "To Never Forget: Faces of the Fallen," an exhibit which showcases portraits of 1,483 soldiers who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan
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chaz4jazz Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:00 PM
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47. Latest toll: 1500 GIs killed in Iraq
By TODD PITMAN, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq (news - web sites) has topped 1,500, an Associated Press count showed Thursday after the military announced the deaths of three Americans, while car bombs targeting Iraqi security forces killed at least four people in separate attacks.

Two suicide car bombs exploded outside the Interior Ministry in eastern Baghdad Thursday, killing at least two policemen and wounding five others, police Maj. Jabar Hassan said. Officials at nearby al-Kindi hospital said 15 people were injured in the blasts, part of the relentless wave of violence since the Jan. 30 elections.

Another car bomb targeting a police convoy exploded in Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of the capital, killing one Iraqi policeman and a civilian, the U.S. military said. Six police and 10 other civilians were also wounded. Amid the violence, interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi extended the state of emergency, first announced nearly four months ago, for another 30 days until the end of March. The order remains in effect throughout the country, except in northern Kurdish-run areas.

The emergency decree includes a nighttime curfew and gives the government extra powers to make arrests without warrants and launch police and military operations when it deems necessary.

The latest reported American deaths brought the toll to 1,502 since the United States launched the war in Iraq in March 2003, according to the AP count.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050303/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq&cid=540&ncid=1480
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:00 PM
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48. Looks like Freedom and Liberty are on a roll. Go get em Bushy.
What a true leader chosen by God. :puke:
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:00 PM
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49. Nothing to see here...move along...
We might get some snow today, just a little dusting...ho-hum...:grr:
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:00 PM
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51. It's like you read my mind! Other ho-hum stories, like:
"Family of US Judge murdered, apparently by right wing terrorists"
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:00 PM
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50. It's a shame we don't fight wars the way we used to...
It's a shame we don't fight wars the way we used to: you know, with
the general or sometimes even the emperor right up there at the
front of the battle, sometimes even dying for the cause.

I think we'd have a much different sense of how important any given
war was if we'd revert to this mode.

Tesha
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:00 PM
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52. 18 months for the 1st 1,000, 5 months for next 500. . .
there's a disturbing pattern in the making here.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:00 PM
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53. Let's not forget Poland! The full death account is 1,675 . . .
if Shrub is going to insist on recognizing the "Coalition of the Billing" as part of the "solution," then he must be held to account for their deaths, too. We passed the 1,500 milestone weeks ago.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:00 PM
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54. Yep, there's a pattern....
...and according to Dubya and Rummy it shows WE'RE WINNING!!!

Just what 'til you see their version of "total victory'. It'll knock your socks off.

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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:00 PM
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55. And HOW MANY WMDs HAVE WE FOUND?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:38 PM
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58. bush says it wasn't about wmd, is/wasa march to freedom
and democracy, like we have here and in Saudi Arabia.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:00 PM
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56. Positive thoughts to the families of the fallen
May the violence end.
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Spinoza Donating Member (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:29 PM
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57. BRING ALL THE TROOPS HOME YESTERDAY
It is a crime to allow one more American soldier to die or be wounded. If the Iraqis want to kill each other it is none of our damn business!
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